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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
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You know ... I thought I heard in Powell's voice ... a real sense of sadness at the direction the Republican party has gone.
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The road they have chosen ... under the highly partisan, extraordinarily divisive leadership of Newt Gingrich, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Karl Rove and Tom Delay ... have taken the Republican Party to the lowest depths of depravity and hypocrisy.
What do they stand for any longer?
They say they stand for Small Government ... then they promptly increase the size of Government 40%.
They say they stand for Fiscal Conservatism ... then they promptly increase spending to unprecedented levels.
They say they oppose Nation Building ... then they promptly invade a large nation and attempt to re-build the nation.
They say they oppose National Healthcare ... but they all enjoy a Single Payer Government plan that they absolutely love.
They say they support the Military ... but they vote against the GI Bill ... they vote for the SMALLEST cost of living increase for soldiers in 20 years ... while they vote to pay BLACKWATER soldiers $150,000 a year ... while they neglect VA Hospitals ... and Barracks fall into decrepit disrepair.
They say they are opposed to anything that REMOTELY resembles Socialism ... but they come up with a Bail-Out that is more Socialistic than anything envisioned by even the most left wing legislator in Sweden!
The Republican Party has completely lost their way ... completely lost their center ... completely lost their credibility.
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GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago
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Graft, greed, and corruption is rampant throughout both parties. Research the video, the public records of the Democrats that proclaimed Freddie/Fannie were fine, no problems. Then go look at who recieved the most PAC/individual money from Freddie/Fannie. Dodd #1, Barak Obama #2. The infamous stain on Lewinskis dress. If you choose to be a Democrat, that's fine, really. To tell me what and who I am with such animosity and no knowledge is closed minded at best, and does nothing to uphold the image of your party.
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DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago
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I think he's more against Palin than most anything else but I DID hear that he would rather have McCain in power in the time of crisis and when experience is needed. While I really do respect Powell, I think he two-faced on this one. Also I think he's bitter because of the Condie Rice appointment. Either way, whoever gets in I surely hope she's history.
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DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago
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Powell is his own man, it was his choice and I respect his choice even tho I will vote for McCain. Although I have not lost any respect for Powell for his past accomplishments, I am nonetheless very disappointed in Powell for making the choice to abandon his party and a comrade in arms (McCain). As far as his comment about Palin's inexperience, he himself had no experience in government when he was chosen as Secretary of State. And for that matter there are/were lots of inexperienced people that were elected to President and other high offices as well. So lets don't get so one-sided about this, both parties are guilty of the same thing.
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dunkirk1 year, 1 month ago
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Very true tho. Yet the right will continue to overlook that she pretty much made a mess of anything she touched. A town of under 8000 and she needed an administrative assistant?? ROFLMAO. Klarissa the more you post the more it seems reality has no meaning to you.
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DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago
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Guess so ... He said he made the choice because he feels that we need a new, fresh young face leading the country because of all the young people out there. He also said Palin is inexperienced, etc. ad nauseum. He then said that on the other hand (or other face) that he would like to have McCain in power in a time of crisis and when experience is needed ... 'nuff said.
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
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"So lets don't get so one-sided about this, both parties are guilty of the same thing."
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you wish both parites were guilty of the same things. and I'm sick of cons saying this when they have their backs agaisnt the wall.
its the "we're all in the same boat" arguement, and its straight out of the con playbook.
the first play is denial. when that doesn't work, which it usually doesn't when facing reality, this is follwed by accusations levelled against the other side that are equal or greater in magnitude (this part is objective, since to cons being gay is worse than being a meth addict, so the level and magnitude of the accusation is in the eye of the beholder)
hence, the "we're all in the same boat" arguement.
well, guess what. we're not.
and that's why Powell endorsed Obama today. he knows the difference. he knows that two people can live through the same thing yet both can come out of it with very different levels of experience. and when it comes to the parties, he knows both parties aren't guilty of the same things.
with this endorsement Powell is clearly pointing a finger of blame, and that finger is aimed right at the GOP.
and llike a real man and a true patriot, he was willing to admit his own party's faults and cross party lines to do what's right for his country.
Powell is getting his dignity back for what he did to America when he lied at the UN in the lead up to the Iraq war. and this was a tremendous first step.-
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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"and llike a real man and a true patriot, he was willing to admit his own party's faults and cross party lines to do what's right for his country"
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Kinda like what Lieberman did when he left the chitty Democrap party....Was he a real man, too, NOWay or just when it's convenient to make your stupid Osama talking points....Liberman got tired of the far lefty approach your party had taken and frankly got tired of the lefty experience....It wasn't the party of JFK anymore....It was the party of whacky, PC, liberalism.....
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scott42611 year, 1 month ago
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Oh, FSU....not all of us liberal folk are high on drugs. So hypocritcal too, since you worship the words of an OxyContin-addled gas bag.
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I cannot wait for November 4th. We are going to pull this Nation back from the cliff you and your ilk seemed determined to push us over. You know the one: Money for the wealthy few...oh, and oh, yeah...f**k the poor!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYqF_BtIwAU
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DeauxNut1 year, 1 month ago
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Typical democrap thinking. Rob from the rich to give to the poor or rather rob from everyone paying taxes and give to those that are not paying taxes like the 40% that don't. Obama is going to lower taxes on 95% of Americans. How is he going to do that when 40% pay no taxes. Guess what, he's going to spread yours and my wealth to those 40%'ers ... hah
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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Confused, con...You're very, very misinformed. Obama is going to lower taxes on the 95% of Americans who pay taxes and raise taxes on those who Bush lavished with obscene war time tax cuts. And you wingnuts say nothing when your tax dollars are wasted in other ways so you really need to just shut up about how you're being hosed by the "40%". It's really disgusting and pitiful they way you uneducated people yak yak yak about tax cuts and "socialism" when you know SQUAT. ;-(
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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As usual you forget the real history. Many top democrats, including the Clintons supported Lieberman during the primaries. His own state democrats voted for the other guy, which is there right. When he declared himself an independent and ran against the party's endorsed candidate, he naturally lost most democratic support. It was primarily republican crossover that elected him.
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
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big difference: we all knew lieberman wasn't a dem. so he wasn't really crossing the aisle. and if you had one ounce of brain activity going on in that thing sitting on your shoulders, you might have been able to surmise that for yourself, rather than having me teach you yet another lesson.
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but when lieberman did move to the right, I thought he was finally showing some balls. and I'm glad he finally sacked up and was honest about who he was.
so yes, Lieberman admitting to himself and the world who he really was did prove that he was finally being a real man.
so there you have it.
f*cked you up again.
dam that was easy. as always.
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GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago
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"and that's why Powell endorsed Obama today. he knows the difference"
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He didn't change parties, not yet. He said the Reps were going too far right.
He doesn't need to get his dignity back. Dignity is a trait you carry within yourself. It isn't given to you by others, he never lost his. No one can take it from him, or you. It is yours to unhold, or give away. He was a soldier and did what a military man does, he followed his commander in chief. When he knew he had been lied to, he spoke out. His dignity and credibility is and has always been intact.-
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
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maybe Powell doesn't want to switch parties. maybe he wants help save the GOP, not abandon it. duh.
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and dignity is the wrong word.
integrity. thats what I meant to say. he lost his integrity.
you wrote: "His dignity and credibility is and has always been intact."
his dignity, sure. his credibililty (ie integrity)? no way , man.
he lost that the moment he got in front of the entire world at the UN and lied his assss off for his bosses.
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amervtrn1 year, 1 month ago
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Having served with Colin Powell I do know him to be a most honorable
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man who has always put the USA ahead of his personal feelings. As a
Commander he was strict but fair, no nonsense in decisions, highly
respected, truly a soldier's soldier, yet never in doubt as a
leader.I was thoroughly disappointed that he did not pursue the
presidency. I feel strongly that had he run America would be far
better off than it is at present.Though I do not share his
endorsement of Barrack Obama I do respect his decision. Should
Barrack Obama win the election and if Colin Powell agrees to serve in
the administration. It would serve to allay the deep reservations
about Barrack Obama's inexperience and Socialist leaning which do
prevent me from supporting him in this election. As I read some
comments made prior to mine, I feel very sorry that anyone could
possibly think that the element of race would ever enter into General Powell's decisions. As per the order of the day,Duty Bound.
McCain 08-
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 1 month ago
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I'm curious who negged this comment....the libs because I was giving kudos to a con, or the cons simply because I am left-leaning?
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Pathetic. They should take the neg feature away. It is stupid as hell. In a conservative-dominated discussion, I make my post, and watch the numbers turn red. Once they hit single digits, I view them as a badge of honor.
You anonymous negaters are sad.-
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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The 'neg' button is a toy that keeps a lot of people busy,
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who would otherwise be tempted to distract the grownups and muddy the thread with their opinions.
Sort of like the old 'sink' feature, which went 'click' nicely and that was it.
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Colin Powell spent his whole life as a war_criminal kiss_ass who got his "boost up the ladder" by trying to cover up My Lai. It is shameful that his career ever continued and even more shameful that Americans could be duped into listening to anything Powell ever said.
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The Truth about Colin Powell
False narratives about historical events can steer the American people in directions that are harmful to their interests.
But false narratives about individuals can do the same, often getting the public to trust someone who doesn’t deserve it.
There has rarely been a better example of that than the case of retired Gen. Colin Powell. Across the political spectrum, pundits encouraged the American people to trust Colin Powell.
So, no one looked very closely at the troubling reality behind his pleasant façade. Which made him the perfect choice to sell the Iraq War.
This excerpt from the new book, Neck Deep, describes the real Colin Powell, the ambitious military bureaucrat who followed orders and put his career interests first: ...
http://consortiumnews.com/2007/112807a.html-
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GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago
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hyper,
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Reading your link brought tears and memories. I was a teenager during Viet Nam, it was my friends big brothers, uncles, that went to war. When they came home, they were damaged in a way, at that time, I couldn't understand. Loving happy guys came back angry, broken. All I knew then was that it was so sad....I know men today that will not speak of it. I've always thought of it as a military mans ......thing(?).....and respected their wishes to leave it alone.
I've never seen information such as you posted. Do you have other sources you would share?
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protoham1 year, 1 month ago
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On the same note, the Democrats have gone to total socialism, away from the centralist ideas that they once had. I am not sure if this how parties evolve, thinking they have to move further towards their extremes, maybe so, maybe the Taliban was a bunch of good guy at one time. It is time for a new party to form, that is dedicated to elimination of big government, but I guess they would not survive very long.
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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I love how fascist cons are all so well versed in Limbaughese, Rovese and Gingrichese. You've trained so very hard that you're all running around like filthy lemmings in a panic regurgitating this election's Republican mantra---"We Are American, And You're Not". This "socialism" HORSECRAP is going to carry McCain the GOP and you disgusting cons down the toilet into oblivion.
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You nutcases are NOT more American than anyone else simply because you cheerlead for wars you're too gutless and cowardly to fight in and you're not more American than anyone else because you call yourself "Joe sixpack" or "Joe the plumber" or "Joe Camel" or whatever else *you* misguided creatures think represents the heart of America. You're going to walk out of the election booths in a couple of weeks the same way you walked in--as sad, ignorant, bigoted and extremely poorly educated cons who would flush their country into the sewer for a tax cut (and obediently then turn right around while those you support bend you over and take that tax cut right back from you at the gas pump). Cons, you're the only ones who think you 20 percenters represent the heart of America. I'm just sorry to break the bad news to you but you're the only ones who have such delusions. ;-(
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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
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protoham, protoham, protoham .... sigh ....
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The clearest example of a Socialist in America today is .... take a guess ...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GEORGE W. BUSH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's in his DNA!
Believe me, it didn't start with his initial Bail-Out package that did NOT include any way for taxpayers to Collect on this 'gift to banking' ... it did NOT include any accountability for those REDISTRIBUTING THIS WEALTH .... AND .... it did not include and Oversight.
That, my friend ... is Socialism of the worst sort.
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Those of us who have watched the rise of George Bush could have predicted this.
When he was in the Private Sector ... he got the City of Arlington to use Eminent Domain to steal 200 acres from middle class citizens. That's Socialism with a Totalitarian Twist.
He and his partners ... not content with investing their OWN money on building a baseball stadium .... George persuaded the City to build the stadium FOR these guys ... which they would then own!!!
How did GW persuade the City to do this?
He offered that the City could RAISE TAXES!!
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So the CITY built the stadium .... that Bush and his partners OWNED.
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This is the way of the Modern Republican .... They are CAPITALISTS when there's an opportunity to make profits .... but their BACKUP plan is SOCIALISM if their profits are in the least bit of peril.
My friend ... it's one thing to SAY you are against Socialism ... which you apparently are ... but to actually believe that .... somehow it's THE DEMOCRATS who are Socialists ... well ... that's just being a slave to ignorance.
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GWHayduke1 year, 1 month ago
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I'm sure that you realize, Goppy, that proto is not literally against Socialism.
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Like many others, Socialism is a term that the parroting right utilizes to misinform and propagandize financial policy opposition.
What I find REALLY ironic is that these fundies espouse ideology over self serving policy.
We ALL (those of us fortunate to qualify as middle class) have lost a great deal at the hands of Bush's corporate welfare / so-called Socialistic domestic policies.
Supporting tax cuts for the wealthy while building massive deficits defies logic on any scale.
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Actually Obama should turn down the endorsement from a war criminal like Powell.
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The Bagman Cometh: Obama Embraces War Criminal's Endorsement
Democratic Party circles are in raptures over Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama. One can see the heavily-blinkered logic behind their elation; now that our national politics has been reduced to a petty squabble over spoils among shifting factions in the imperial court, a nod from a consummate courtier like Powell is indeed a glittering prize for an ambitious prince.
But out in the real world, where the operations of imperial power have left smoking trails of murder and ruin across the globe, the "endorsement" of a man who played an indispensable role in the slaughter of more than a million innocent people in a war of Hitlerian aggression should be regarded as a thing of shame, and vociferously rejected by anyone with a scintilla of honor or morality.
It is not too much of a stretch to say that Colin Powell is more responsible for the mass murder spree in Iraq than any other person except George W. Bush, who gave the actual order for the hit. For it was Powell who "made the sale" for the Bush Faction's deceitful warmongering campaign, with his infamous February 2003 presentation to the UN, laying out the false evidence about Iraq's non-existent weapons of mass destruction. After that farrago of artfully delivered lies, the American Establishment – urged on by the fawning, bloodthirsty commentariat – lined up solidly behind the war. After all, if Colin Powell – so "reasonable," so "honorable," so "honest" and "bipartisan" – stood foursquare behind the Bush case for war, then it must be ironclad.
This was, again, the logic of courtiers, with little connection to reality. Powell's reputation as a wise, moderate, impartial statesman – the very thing that made him the most effective shill for the war crime in Iraq – was itself almost entirely a fiction. By the time he made his shameless UN appearance, Powell had already spent almost four decades as a bagman – and frontman – for some of the most vicious and ugly elements in American politics and government. From the My Lai massacre to Iran-Contra, from Washington's long and murderous collusion with Saddam to its long and murderous campaigns to remove him, Powell has been instrumental in perpetrating or covering up atrocities and abominations on a gigantic scale....
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/20/the-bagm...
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