Obama Wants Social Security for Illegals »
Posted By lovemylibs 1 year, 2 months ago in NewsObama's plan calls for Social Security for illegals . . . and higher taxes for you. Drivers licenses too.
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lovemylibs1 year, 2 months ago
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At least two-thirds of Americans do not want to allow illegal immigrants the PRIVILEGE of having a drivers license.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2...-
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Dionys1 year, 2 months ago
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The third that do are likely the Repugnant Con bosses who want their illegal farm/construction workers to be able to drive their trucks to/from the work/delivery sites that rake in the money to pay for their re-election. Like Gordon Smith and his illegal workers.
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amervtrn1 year, 2 months ago
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As I have said many time through the course of this race, do the research and check your facts. In the political world, do not be seduced by the sound bit mentality, separate the chaff from the wheat. The intervention of foreign interest in this particular race is phenomenal. The misinformation, half truths, misleading headlines(90% are too lazy or ignorant to read further), planted stories with no substance are to be expected. The USA has been in this position before. Remember an old saying," the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Where youth with beautiful dreams can be seduced by fairy tales, those who have grown up to see the nightmares of the real world are not so easy to fooled. In a world of political smoke and mirrors,consider the motives behind the rhetoric. Children may be the future, but that does not guarantee, a bright shining one. Naivety is a trap of youthful exuberance. Where blind hatred and inexperience can mask the truth perhaps one should consider the consequences of all courses of action. Socialism paints a pretty picture of the unattainable dream. Retain the freedom to accomplish your dreams with out the tax of those who have no dreams of accomplishments or ambition to earn something on their own.
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Have you read Animal Farm?
Keep America free
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lovemylibs1 year, 2 months ago
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The roll call for the 2006 vote to allow social security benefits to be given to those that participate in unlawful activities:
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http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_li... -
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Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago
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Gee, ABNTV, you really haven't been following things, have you?
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Illegals typically get jobs by listing a bogus social security number. So they pay in to the Social Security system, but since the SS# is not theirs, they will not get any $$ back on retirement. "Illegals" in this way have been pumping billions of dollars per year into the social security system, and are arguably instrumental in keeping it solvent.
"Myth #6: Undocumented immigrants do not pay taxes.
Undocumented immigrants pay the same real estate taxes—whether they own homes or taxes are passed through to rents—and the same sales and other consumption taxes as everyone else. The majority of state and local costs of schooling and other services are funded by these taxes. Additionally, the U.S. Social Security Administration has estimated that three quarters of undocumented immigrants pay payroll taxes, and that they contribute $6-7 billion in Social Security funds that they will be unable to claim (Porter 2005)."
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memestryker1 year, 2 months ago
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The problem is, individuals pay into social security--it is not a pot of money for just anyone or anything at government's whim. It was designed to help prevent people from becoming poverty-stricken. A good number of an entire generation of women who had no rights, and who don't even make the minimum that men get on social security mostly depend on it now just to stay alive, and people actually think it's OK for those here illegally to siphon it off?
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People who come in legally should always be given preference over those who come illegally. The illegals are breaking the law. Those who play by the immigration rules are being sidelined so the illegals get a free ride.
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Teech1 year, 2 months ago
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Ho hum. Another shameless, boldface lie from the usual suspects. Desperation knows no bounds.
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No increase in taxes unless you earn over one quarter million per year. But, nobody expects Cons to believe anything factual.
Go back to the rest home in Arizona, Johnnie. Sarah, go back to your hockey mom existence in Alaska with your $150,000 wardrobe. Good riddance to both of these sleaze ball Repukes.-
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abntv1 year, 2 months ago
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So where is this trillion dollar hand out going to come from. Do you really think that by raising the taxes on 5% of the working population it will provide the funds to Pay out "tax credits" to 40% of the working population?
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or is it that you just think that the statement that Obama want to provide social security card to illegals is a lie?
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lovemylibs1 year, 2 months ago
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From the Democratic debates:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCjMRgPepy8
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Nowalive1 year, 2 months ago
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I have posted my immigration reform initiative here numerous times, but here it is again for those who have not seen it. At least with my plan there is some recovery offormerly misused tax money.
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This could get lengthy so please bear with me.
This immigration initiative would give everyone what they ask for. Guest worker program, border security, and increased revenue from taxes.
Part I
Registration, Documentation, Taxation:
All illegal immigrants must report to their local SS offices for registration and issuance of PHOTO ID cards (this would also help to curb identity theft and voter fraud). Every registree will be issued the same ss# 999-99-9999. This number shall be used to identify the individual as a "guest worker". These GWs must be sponsored by their employers, and taxed accordingly. To wit: federal, state, and local. GWs are valid for 3 years, during which time they must maintain employment, and develop a working knowledge of English (my push for English first). Employers are required to notify the appropriate agency when a GW becomes unemployed. GWs may renew a maximum of 5 times (15 years total). Employers MUST pay GWs no less than minimum wage (which could be interpreted as a cost cutting measure for businesses). While in the system GWs may not file for tax returns. This is the fee/fine portion of the GW program. This money stays in the general fund, and the SS fund. State and local taxes may be used to offset services illegally utilized by illegal immigrants (ie: welfare, medical services, etc.) Employers must also make the appropriate matching payments to the designated federal, state, local tax authorities. A registered by date will be worked out later. After this date "GWs" not registered will be classified as illegal entrants (IE's). This will be designated a class "C" felony punishable by 5 years imprisonment. Disposition of sentence to be discussed under the section pertaining to border security. Employers found to be employing illegal entrants will be punished (enforcement is key). First offense: A fine of $25,000 per individual. Second offense: A fine of $100,000 per individual. Third offense: Seizure of assets and 5 years imprisonment. This will be enforced vigorously. -
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Nowalive1 year, 2 months ago
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Part II
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Border Security and Military Readiness:
Of the 2100 miles of Southern Border, approximately 1600 are geographically fenceable. The remainder would require foot, air and electronic monitoring. The construction of a physical fence is necessary to stem the tide of IEs. To this end, the border areas (north and south) shall be designated training areas for military, federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies and intelligence gathering agencies. The actual construction of the fence would be supervised by the Army Corps of Engineers, and the SeaBees. This will be their segment of the training. The fence will be a 16 foot chain link, with outriggers and barbed wire pointed outboard of U.S. soil. Doubled run with 25 yards separating each. This area in between will be randomly patrolled by BP and Military units. Military training will be conducted so as to maximize diversity, and promote standardized training for all ground forces, reducing training costs. Units from the north will train in the south learning, among other skills, desert warfare, drug interdiction, capture and interrogation, care custody and control techniques, urban pacification (small town), desert survival. Units from the south will train in the north learning mountaineering, wilderness survival, cold weather survival, urban pacification (large city), etc. Harbor Patrol, the Coast Guard and Navy will train in and around our ports and waterways on such areas as Maritime law, cargo handling, port and waterway security, drug interdiction, etc. Regional Disposition Centers will be set up to handle the hearings and sentencing of IEs, and non compliant employers. All Federal, State, and Local law enforcement agencies will be empowered to arrest and detain IEs after the "register by" date for the GW program. IEs and employers picked up after this date will be given a hearing and sentenced accordingly. The sentence not to exceed five years imprisonment. If found guilty they will be turned over to BP and military units for care, custody and control. They will build the housing centers, and construct the fence(s). If after completion of their sentence an IE has not been sponsored by an employer, they will be returned to their country of origin. This applies to ALL IEs, including the group now classified as OTM. Employers who complete their sentence will be released as in any correctional facility. This will result in higher security, lower training and construction costs, and aid in inter-agency cooperation across the board. -
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Nowalive1 year, 2 months ago
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Part III
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Revision of Immigration Law:
The two major changes would be in the unwritten "catch and release" policy, and in the "anchor baby" provisions. I would eliminate catch and release, and I would amend the "anchor baby" provision to read "Any child born to foreign parents in this country LEGALLY(ie: student visa, work visa, tourist, etc.)and subject to the laws and jurisdiction of the United States of America, shall be eligible for citizenship". This I would make retro to September 11, 2001 ; 10:00 AM Eastern Standard Time. This would effectively stop the influx of pregnant illegals coming here to have their children. If they (the children) do not automatically get citizenship, then the parents are less likely to endanger themselves and their unborn child by attempting a border crossing.
Business and Immigrant assistance
The "345" Business Re-investment Plan:
This is a system of tax incentives for businesses that comply with the previously outlined immigration plan.
Businesses employing over 5000 would receive a 3% tax cut.
Businesses employing between 1000 and 5000 would receive a 4% tax cut.
Businesses employing under 1000 would receive a 5% tax cut.
To qualify for these incentives, businesses must establish on site english language instruction to assist GW's in complying with the requirement to learn english. -
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Nowalive1 year, 2 months ago
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There have been a number of articles, buried deep within major newspapers, that show an escalating crime rate linked to illegal immigrants. Some of these articles document Border Patrol being fired upon by illegals trying to cross the border. Some of these articles even elude to many of these illegal entrants as being from middle eastern countries. Why is this not front page news? Why is this not the lead story on television news broadcasts?
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The plain truth is fear. One party fears minority voter backlash if decisive action is taken to stop the influx, the other fears a business and labor collapse if they act. Neither could be further from the truth.
The majority of LEGAL immigrants favor stopping illegal immigration for several reasons, chief among them is they are losing jobs to illegals who will work for lower wages. Another major concern among legal immigrants is the rise of violent crime within immigrant communities committed by illegals.
Illegal immigration hurts legal immigrants the most. Depressed wages, rising crime rates, anymosity within the community. This causes undue stress for immigrants that went through the process of coming to America legally.
Vote Hamilton in 2012
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Klarissa1 year, 2 months ago
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"Barack Obama's tax plan would convert the IRS into a giant welfare agency, redistributing massive amounts of wealth at the direction of politicians in Washington.
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I suppose when you've voted against lowering taxes 94 times, as Senator Obama has done, a new definition of the term "tax credit" comes in handy.
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4thchance1 year, 2 months ago
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Obama says...Hey Americans, if you have more then $50 to your name, then Obama will take it so the poor can be rich too! Oh, and let's not forget our good buddies the ILLEGAL ALIENS who are suffering in America. They too deserve to be given all your hard earned money. VOTE OBAMA 2008
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He's the man....
PS.
If Obama wins, I plan to shut down my online business. I have an annual gross income of about
$275,000. My Net is much less. Anyway, I plan to go out of business, stay at home, sit around, get on drugs and do nothing. Then sit back and watch those Obama Welfare Checks come rolling in.
Hey Democrats, how much crack will my Obama welfare check buy me? Also, if I get addicted, will the Obama plan get me treatment for the addiction, OF COURSE IT WILL. God, I'm going to love the new OBAMA America!
It's do nothing, get stoned then get paid for it, ya gota love it :-) -
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Maybe. But if you are on Wall Street you can pretend to work, tank your company and get paid more than you and your family will see in several life times. Been working that way ever since Reagan started "trickle up" voodoo economics.
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