Former FBI Operations Chief: Would Not Have Hired Obama »
Posted By Karlyc 1 year, 1 month ago in Political News
Exclusive: Former FBI In Charge of Operations - FBI 'Would Not Have Hired' Someone with Obama's Associations
Recently, FSM sat down with Buck Revell, former Associate Deputy Director of the FBI who was in charge of all FBI operations before his retirement in 1994. What he has to say about the idea of a security clearance for Barack Obama, a man who could be our next president, is stunning and sobering, to say the least.
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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It has been said that Sen. Obama would not be able to get a security clearance now if he applied for one because of the many relationships he has had in the past, and now, with people like Khalid al-Mansour and Bill Ayers. Is that true?
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BR: Well, of course, all I can do to render my opinion is to the time I served in government, and I retired after 35 years in 1994. But at one time I was the Assistant Director in charge of the administrative division of the FBI, which as part of its duties was hiring and clearing personnel, and certainly we would not have hired during my tenure a person that had the background, associates and relationships that Obama has had over his adult life.-
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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Also in the article: Now, that's not saying that he has engaged in any illegal or improper activity, but when you associate with people of the likes of Bill Ayers, who is not only a known radical but an unrepentant radical, and teaches a radical socialism - some would say communist - approach to government, and espouses the use of violence if "necessary," and he determines when it's necessary, this is not the kind of person that an association with - and an association that was both voluntary and lengthy - would give you the necessary satisfaction that the applicant himself was not involved to some degree or at least acknowledged and agreed with parts of that person's social or political agenda.
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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
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What's your point?
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The Bush's grandparents had extensive relationships with the NAZI's.
The present day Bush family has numerous relationships with the Bin Laden family.
Bush Senior helped to arm Saddam Hussein.
Bush Junior was an alcoholic, used cocaine extensively .... and I mean on a regular basis ... he finagled his way out of serving his country in Vietnam ... while others went ... including John Kerry ... who Bush sought to defame ... as a way of off-setting his cowardly nature.
Why ... Bush didn't even bother to finish his National Guard duty.
Now ... before you go and say ... "Yes ... but Bush isn't running" ... the point is ... you are masquerading as someone who cares about Obama's 'Security Clearance' ... which is not in question ... but you didn't care about the same issue with Bush.
I mean ... come on ... Bush was a disaster waiting to happen.
We all saw it ... but y'all liked him because you thought he would be 'fun to have a beer with'.
Y'all should be banned from voting for one election cycle for the damage you have done to our nation by electing George W. Bush.
I say ... anyone who voted for Bush should not get a Security Clearance ... because clearly ... they do not support our nation's best interest.
NEXT!
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rimbaud1 year, 1 month ago
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It's a good thing the government does not screen our candidates! In Iran, the "Supreme Council" qualifies who may run for public office. Fortunately, ours is a government of laws, not men, and our choice of candidates is not limited to those deemed fit by any government bureaucrats.
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
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But Colin Powell has endorsed Obama over McCain, Karlyc. I guess Powell can't be trusted, huh?That endorsement kinda stung I guess cause cons are totally not interested in discussing all the Republicans who are steering clear of McCain and Bush. ;-P
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mark-stevens1 year, 1 month ago
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The guy that my sister married got max clearance, access to our nuclear program at all levels. My sister's grand father was a German spy during WW2, while passing himself off as a minister in Everett.
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That part of the country than was very military then. -
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Aidenag1 year, 1 month ago
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Man the red scare type of frenzy going on with the right wing is really getting out of hand. This article is basically trying to justify the type of things that were done to Milo Radulovich in 1953 at the peak of McCarthyism......
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This type of stuff was proven to be WRONG 50 years ago, how we are making it an issue again is beyond me.. We even have sitting members of congress now calling for witch hunts to see who is un-american even, basically trying to bring back the House Un-American Activities Committee.....
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Well, good old boy Oliver "Buck" Revell started in the FBI during the J. Edgar Hoover era. What he says here indicates how strongly the FBI needed to be reformed.
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Amongst other things, Buckie was in aposition in the FBI during the Reagan/Bush daddy administrations where he should have investigated and publicly revealed the corruption of Iran-Contra. He may also have been involved in many other asassinations.
Anyone who posts Buckie boy as an example of american democracy should have his loyalty to America questioned. Frankly, it sounds like buckie boy is scared he might be put on trial for crimes he committed.
""""David Hoffman is the author of two books, The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror (hereinafter "Oklahoma City Bombing") and the unfinished book Murdergate. Alexander B. Magnus, through the not-for-profit organization Americans for Responsible Media (hereinafter "ARM"), funded Hoffman's work on both books. Oklahoma City Bombing and Murdergate both contain statements concerning Revell's activities during his tenure at the FBI. The following passages are from Oklahoma City Bombing:
1. In 1985, Wheaton was approached by security consultants to Vice President Bush's "Task Force on Combating Terrorism" who were working for USMC Lt. Colonel Oliver North and Associate Deputy FBI Director Oliver "Buck" Revell. "They wanted me to help create a 'death squad' that would have White House deniability to assassinate people they would identify as terrorists," said Wheaton. . . .Wheaton claims the program continues to the present day. (p. 63).
2. On December 5, 1998, a Palestinian named Samra Mahayoun warned authorities in Helsinki that a Pan Am 747 leaving Frankfurt was to bombed [sic] within two weeks. (p. 170). -
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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"It looks like Obama couldn't get a security clearance. What an injustice!"
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He served on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. You can be sure he had and retains security clearance higher than most senators and higher than you'll ever see. -
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OldBetty1 year, 1 month ago
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An FBI agent is not a politician so the job qualifications are not the same.
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People in public life have a wide variety of acquaintances. It is the nature of the political beast.
I would not want a president or a senator for that matter who was insulated from the real world.
The question to ask is do these people own the politician. The answer in Obama's case -- over and over again -- is that there is no evidence of wrong-doing or undue influence. -
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UpholdOurConsitution1 year, 1 month ago
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I would bet that well over half of the people who have top security clearance in this country shouldn't have gotten that clearance. If every other part of the Government is inefficient, and sometimes downright ineffective, what makes you think the FBI is the exception?
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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Klarissa1 year, 1 month ago
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Well that's very difficult to say how you would do that - no elected official - senator or congressman or the vice president or president - goes through a security clearance process.
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The very election process itself is considered vetting.
Now there have been many members of congress that we would not provide information to. Even though they are entitled to a security clearance doesn't mean that agencies that have discretion would trust them, and we knew that there were some that we could not trust. With the president and the vice president you really have no choice but to provide the information unless and until you determine that it's being abused and then you have to take the action of going to the attorney general, and if the attorney general won't act, you go to the oversight committees of the Congress to explain that there have been inappropriate actions taken on highly sensitive and classified information.
Now that's a drastic step but, on the other hand, it's one that is called for under the law and it's exactly what should be done if either the president or the vice president is engaging in unlawful activity.-
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 1 month ago
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Hi Klarissa
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You got a Pos from FLY.
That was the part of the story that held my attention.
Now if I was an extrapolator? (i Know not really a word).
I would wonder...... about the track record of leaking classified information.
Or even its misused for a political agenda?
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PinkyPie1 year, 1 month ago
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"It's not guilt by association, but it's essentially if you associate with people on a continuing basis who have posed a threat to our nation by either advocating anarchy and/or an overthrow of the government or who are racist and advocate the potential of racial conflict or who are engaged in criminal activities, then you have not shown good judgment. You have not shown that you are the kind of person who can differentiate between those who are appropriate to associate with and those who are not. So on the basis of the judgment issue, and then of course, if you found any specific activity, you'd judge that as well. But just the judgment in continuing to associate with people that he knew were engaging in racist and radical, violence-prone socialist activities would be sufficient to disqualify him from consideration for the top secret clearance and the FBI position."
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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Violence prone socialist activity.......PP, if that's not militant facist McCarthy talk, I've never heard it.
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If the FBI wants to keep their eyes on someone, its the militias who are spouting the exact same verbage as Drug Lamebaugh, Billo the clown, and PinkPie are spewing. From this white christian supremacy perch, with your blinders and jack boots on, spewing this only slightly concealed threat of violence, this assumption that the right wing moneyed chicken hawk warmongering class are the "real" americans, the assumption that anyone who went to college and studied anything but accounting are suspected communists, these are the violent ones, the ones who always are behind the coups, the assassinations, the McCarthyistic hatemongering.
The right wing filthy lying scum who hijacked the economy under the guise of family christian values, and stoled trillions of dollars, the right wing neocon coward chicken hawk draft dodging priveledged idiots that you sick idiots voted for twice, they are the ones who should be under the watch of the FBI. -
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dcfixer1 year, 1 month ago
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"f you associate with people on a continuing basis who have posed a threat to our nation by either advocating anarchy and/or an overthrow of the government or who are racist and
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advocate the potential of racial conflict or who are engaged in criminal activities, then you have not shown good judgment."
"You have not shown that you are the kind of person who can differentiate between those who are appropriate to associate with and those who are not."
Like the Palins and the AIP, or the McCains and the Keatons?
Like the Palins and Sen. Stevens?
What you are saying applies equally across the board, right?
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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
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And yet ... he's about to become your Commander In Chief ... so ... will you still salute the flag?
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Or will you grind it under your jack booted heel like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and the rest of Media?
Oh heck ... I already know the answer ... like all your right wing friends here ... you don't support our nation ... you exist to see how little you can pay in taxes ... lowering your tax bill ... that's the nation you support.
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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but when you associate with people of the likes of Bill Ayers,
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that would also make EVERYONE he's EVER taught .. and all associates at the university he teach at.. and most probably everyone he was ever taught in class with and all the teachers that taught Bill Ayers.. also not able to get a security clearance....
Including Ron Reagans friend that started the Annenberg Foundation also an associate of a terrorist...
and in a way wouldn't the university that pays him be funding a terrorist..
i could go on and on..
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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Sorry. The FBI's know as the dimwitted half-brother of the intelligence community. They're known to hire, for the most part, idiots. So I can see why they wouldn't choose Obama. The CIA, however, would snatch him up in an instant.
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ForrestPhelps1 year, 1 month ago
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(With apologies to Sydney Harris)
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An FBI Assistant Director in charge of the administrative division of the FBI looks up at the next applicant and finds a man with long hair and a flowing beard, wearing old and tattered clothing, beads and sandals.
FBI Man: What’s your job now?
Applicant: I have no job.
FBI Man: What’s your family think of that?
Applicant: I have no family. I have left my parents and my brothers and sisters and I live alone.
FBI Man: What’s your address?
Applicant: The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but I have not anywhere to lay my head.
FBI Man: Do you belong to any clubs or social affiliations?
Applicant: No. No man can serve two masters.
FBI Man: Do you go to school?
Applicant: No, for which of us by taking thought can add one cubit to his stature.
FBI Man: Do you have any money or visible means of support?
Applicant: Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt.
FBI Man: Ever served in the military?
Applicant: I resist not evil, but return good for evil. Whosoever shall smite me on the right cheek, I shall turn to him the other also.
FBI Man: Who are your friends?
Applicant: I go among publicans and sinners.
FBI Man: What political party do you belong to?
Applicant: None. Only this-a new commandment I give unto you: That you love one another.
So the FBI man writes the following:
Hippie character, school dropout, no permanent address, no job, probable draft dodger and pacifist, alienated from family, no wife or children, no church attendance, with dubious associates among the lowest elements of society.-
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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The thing most Dems don't understand, Jesus was a closet homosexual racist fearmongering status quo rich guy who played golf on sunday after taking the weekend off from his sales job at Haliburton selling weapons to Saudi Arabia and Israel, Jesus was a status quo conservative, who hated: jews, blacks, mexicans, arabs, muslims, hindus, atheists, and puppies.
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Jesus was a filthy lying swiftboating slave owning mysogynist republican. The commie socialist college educated elitest liberal Dems don't get it.
Jesus loves the little children, all the white upper middle class children of the world. Everybody else, can burn in a lake of Alaskan hell fire.
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prince21 year, 1 month ago
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why is it so important who obama friends are. The past presidents' friends were not looked into. There were past presidents who had friends in the klu klux klan and no one discussed that. the klu klux klan was the first terrorists in this country or in the world
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StaceyBoaz1 year, 1 month ago
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So, he served on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee but he wouldn't be able to serve in the FBI according to this man. Just shows what a damn moron this man is! Why put him in that post! The republicans are really getting desparate because, this time, the American people are picking their own president!!! Tell this b**tard to go to hell!!!!
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GutsyMSUSA1 year, 1 month ago
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Maybe if Bill Clinton had been "fixed" instead of in the closet with Monica...when they had the "ten minute window" to get Bin Laden, then 911 would not have happened 9 months into the Presidency of George Bush...
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Also, Thank Clinton for the NAFTA....and sending our jobs to every damn country but here....
Also, thank Bill and Hillary for their PROMISE to fix health care....16 years I have been waiting...had to have open heart surgery..and am still waiting for them to fix it like they promised...Democrats are all blow and bluster..and spend money on themselves....-
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