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Posted By Neophile 1 year, 1 month ago in Political NewsVideo clips of Sarah Palin attending Alaska church services have raised questions about her views on Christianity and government.
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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I'm not crazy about Joe Biden, but I'm more concerned about the possibility of Sarah Palin becoming president because McCain is 72 and has had four bouts of cancer. I think choosing her as a running mate was the worst decision McCain has made in this campaign.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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ok, there is no excuse for ignorance on the internet;
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so i looked it up.
The Mugwumps were Republican political activists who supported Democratic candidate Grover Cleveland in the United States presidential election of 1884.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugwump-
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alakazam1 year, 1 month ago
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Either that or the really creepy beasties in "Naked Lunch"
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It was banned for a long time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh-Q07iVQws
There is a scene called "Me at the Bar" where our whimsically wasted protagonist talks to a "Mugwump"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjU7ul0uoII
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
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Will1313, I am pretty sure that witchcraft is responsible for the national debt. The Party of personal responsibility denies any knowledge of how it all happened.
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So clearly we need someone in the White House who has connections with an experienced witch hunter.
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
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There are those in the Republican party who wanted to see a culture war this election and have been mostly disappointed, it will be interesting to watch who comes out on top of what's left of the Republican party after this election. Those pushing for a culture war or those pushing for more moderate measures. For the culture warriors, Palin has become their poster child.
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I have a feeling people who thought this election got nasty will be looking back on 2008 as warm and fuzzy moment, when the 2012 election rolls around.-
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Hhussk1 year, 1 month ago
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I'm disappointed that you attack a person because of her religion. I went through the article and didn't see how her religion affects her position as a Vice President.
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On the other hand, Obama came from a "Black Liberation Theology" religion, he's a Presidential candidate, and holds many fairly radical views.
I you want to discuss Palin's religion, I'll debate you. (I'm sort of bored, right now and I'm sure you want something to attack).-
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
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Calling Palin a poster child for culture warriors is an attack? I suspect Palin would be flattered by my comment and people like Rush Limbaugh would agree with it.
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Personally I think politics and religion are like oil and water, they don't mix., but as you point out, America has heard about Obama's religious choices, (Martin Luthar King was a Black Liberation Theologist too), so it's only fair to bring up Palin's. In the furture maybe we can dedicate one or two Presidential debates to candidates explaining to us how their god can beat up their opponent's god.-
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vor1 year, 1 month ago
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Uh, lets see, i.e. John Kennedy was likely scrutinized more for his Catholic faith than any other quality.
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Put Palin's beliefs are stone age. That is unless the Assembly of God's biblically literal views are not her own. It's Jesus Camp type stuff. Raising little warriors for Christ. Then sending the legions forth for now if for nothing else than prosletizing to others. No Assembly of God member has ever held high national office that I know of?
But I don't see Palin as any type of Jesus figure. Someone to emulate. Did he supposedly go around bad mouthing his fellow man and rendering judgement from the stump? Ok, so the Rambo Jesus these people believe in does kick*ss!And he whipped the moneychangers didn't he? But instead McCain/Palin want to give the moneychangers a whopping tax break! And a multitude of Christians will vote for this. They see a 5% additional tax put on the 5% of the wealthiest and consider it socialism. And I don't seem to recall that type of condemnation of those who think differently? And I also don't think Jesus would ever rumble onto the stage with "Redneck (Wo)Man" as a theme song as I saw the other night. How inclusive! I know a lot of redneck women but I don't want any of them running the country.
The thought of her as my Vice President doesn't make me angry because what can I do if this is what my fellow Americans choose? It just makes me sad to see how liitle we expect anymore. I can her it now, "Hey look Cletus, McCain died, now the weathergirl from Wasilla is President"! Would make me feel like the guy in the painting "The Scream". Four years of this? I can't even imagine!
But that's not even what truly what scares me about this woman. She has not a shred of intellectualism in her. And that is considered an asset these days? Her beliefs are but one symptom. Obama (unless you blindly hate him) is an actual thinker. But that is considered a negative somehow? He's considered sinister and calculating. Mediocre intelligence and simple mindedness are now somehow in vogue again. But didn't we learn a da*n thing from the last 8 years? Hasn't America suffered enough? We'll see on Tuesday.
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jordan111 year, 1 month ago
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alakazam1 year, 1 month ago
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I always wondered why he didn't just cast out her Demons.
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He claimed authority over them so why didn't he free her?
I am not gonna mock a person's belief in a Higher Power.
I am just saying that if you wanna go around claiming Higher Authority your ass better be online with one.
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hamy1 year, 1 month ago
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Um...SHE made her religion part of this campaign by pushing it. I don't care about her religion but she wants to use it to legislate against me and my friends. She also used her religion in pushing an "anti-abortion" stance that will never pass.
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Just like her kids. Don't blame us for mentioning things that she has pushed into the limelight. She uses those kids just like she uses christianity. -
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 1 month ago
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All religions are composed entirely of pixie twaddle.
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The fact that Palin thinks Christ is going to return to earth in her lifetime makes her a dangerous wacko.
There is nothing to debate, when it comes to religion. Religion is nothing more than a naive belief system that attempts to validate superstition.-
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alakazam1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't need to validate superstition.
I think there is a higher power.
It's not some anthropomorphic, selfish, sadistic and angry Ubermensch.
I dunno why anyone would serve someone they thought was out to get them unless it was from fear.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 1 month ago
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ctc:
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I'm sorry you feel that way.
But I can understand it, when you see people who claim to be for what God wants.
Do evil things for their own self gain, while hurting those who are seeking to find the answer.
It is not easy to see what is the Truth is. For even satan takes part of what God says and then twists in his own values trying dillute and make less the True lessons of God
It seems many people blame God for all that is wrong, yet give Him no credit for what is good.
Religion is mans way to try and make himself Holy in the absense of living Gods' way.
And yes some of them are superstitions. Personally I have never understood praying to a piece of stone or metal. Yet some do it with the belief that they are communicating with God.
God is so immense this world cannot contain Him, nor our minfd fully comprehend Him.
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jimdoze1 year, 1 month ago
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"I have a feeling people who thought this election got nasty will be looking back on 2008 as warm and fuzzy moment, when the 2012 election rolls around"
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I agree... especially if the Dems come to control the executive and legislative branches this year. If that comes to pass, put your head between your legs and kiss the economy totally good-bye. Barack, Barney and Chris have kicked off the first leg of the downward spiral with their housing redistribution schemes. A redistribution president and a redistribution congress will put the nails in the coffin. This country is going to have more than a culture war on its hands in 2012.-
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
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If Obama fails to deliver than a culture war won't be needed for Reps to win back the White House, a guy like Romney could do it. However, IF Obama manages to keep people happy for the most part, the only hope Reps will have is to run the type of campaign Limbaugh and Hannity have been calling for this cycle.
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Redistribution has been the word coming from McCain lately, but can you name a tax that doesn't redistribute wealth? I wasn't aware that McCain was going to eliminate all taxes, funny how he signed that bill redistributing $700 billion dollars worth of wealth, since that's something he's against.-
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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HateKoolAid1 year, 1 month ago
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Is that even a word?? Another word the cons have pulled out of their 'scare the hell out of them' play book is ..socialist. The hypocrisy of this accusation is just astounding. How can the neocons define spreading the wealth as some sort of evil when we have been doing it since this country was founded. The first time someone came up with the idea of taxing a resource to fund a common need you had the basic concept of spreading money (wealth). Just saw a couple of clips of Palin making speeches accusing Obama of favoring this 'crime' when just a few months ago she was bragging of doing the exact same thing in Alaska. She was actually PROUD to say how she was taking oil company wealth and spreading it among Alaskan citizens who did nothing to earn it.
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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"Is that even a word??"
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Nope. McCain just realized calling Obama a "distributor" of wealth sounded like nonsense, so his neocon lobbyist handlers made up a new word to fool the masses.
"How can the neocons define spreading the wealth as some sort of evil when we have been doing it since this country was founded."
Will the rhetorical questions never end?:) (George Carlin)
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jimdoze1 year, 1 month ago
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She was not doing the exact same thing in Alaska. She was distributing profits from an Alaskan resource, oil. What are the profits that the federal government is going to re-distribute? Oh, I see... it will be the internal revenue service profits.
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scott42611 year, 1 month ago
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Socialism 1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
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Where it pertains to Alaska, check #1....
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jimdoze1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't see that the state of Alaska owns the means of production. Neither does Alaska own the means to distribute the petroleum. I believe the oil companies are the ones producing and distributing. The state of Alaska owns certain mineral rights and gets paid for them.
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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"She was not doing the exact same thing in Alaska. She was distributing profits from an Alaskan resource, oil. What are the profits that the federal government is going to re-distribute? Oh, I see... it will be the internal revenue service profits."
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She took the oil company profits and instead of investing them in the projects for her state that needed money she gave them back to the people and then asked the US Government for money from the lower 48 to pay for her pet projects. How is that not redistributing the wealth?-
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Beau78901 year, 1 month ago
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Obama would like the rest of Americans to get a distribution of *some* profits from the nation's natural resources.
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Oddly enough, Republicans are calling that socialism, but not Palin's distribution of oil company profits to her state's citizens.
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jimdoze1 year, 1 month ago
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Your guys had already broken the system through Fanny and Freddie. That $700 bill is to keep it from going down the tubes. Now you want to layer further disincentives to work and invest on top of that... plus throw in protectionism so the U.S. economy doesn't need to compete. You are creating a mess the dangers of which you have no clue.
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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"They don't bother your candidate, Barack Obama, either. That is what is so troubling."
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They wouldn't bother anyone who's heard the whole sermon, or his preaching in context. That said, most Repugnant Cons can't hold more than 5 words in their head at once, so I guess the brief snippets are all you'll ever be able to understand. -
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
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Those that brought up Rev. Wright opened the door for this, though to be fair we have been examining the religion of candidates before this election cycle. That's a mistake in my opinion, nobody's religion can stand up to being put under the media spotlight. Religion, like sausage, is easier to swallow when not examined too closely.
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scott42611 year, 1 month ago
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Palin's Assembly of God faith has ministries like Exodus (or - as I like to call it - homo no mo ministries) which work to convert gays to straights (we all know how that works out). They are also fervent last days nuts who would love nothing better than for Palin to usher in Armageddon. She is a dangerous woman.
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Now some on my right may think that my view of her is overblown, but I don't think so. And it is the truth.
My hope is that cooler heads in the Republican Party will prevail. I hope that they would return to the core message of fiscal responsibility (a message that is more than just about tax cuts). I hope they reject the religious nutcase wing of the party....
I'm not holding my breath. The religious right has been courted by the Republicans since Jerry Falwell darkened the doors of Reagan's Oval Office in the 1980s. They will not give up their influence easily. They might nominate Palin, blaming the 2008 loss on John McCain muddling her message (yes, she does have a diva complex...)
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pcknowledge1 year, 1 month ago
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Sarah Palin stands for no choice no matter what the circumstances for the woman, no sex ed, abstract science.
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All I see is a clear connection between Palin and the religious Taliban. She should run for office in Afghanistan's government, but I bet the women there would feel as I do and say NO! to Palin.
I can't stand the possibility of McCain/Palin in the White House, making decisions that would destroy our great nation from within and mess up the minds of young people by pushing their ultra religious, conservative right wing fanatic views on the younger generation! Let's see progress in science, education, the economy! Let's see our country, the greatest nation in the world, prosperous, wealthy and educated! Let's see progress in technology! Let's end this ridiculous Iraq war costing us billions! Obama/Biden 2008! -
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alakazam1 year, 1 month ago
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A Great Tragedy I think...Our disunity and inability to compromise is of great detriment to the progress of the American People.
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I think there are some among US who believe they can rule the rest of US without consent.
I submit that the Tyranny of the Few is no less bitter than the Tyranny of the Many.
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CandJ2701 year, 1 month ago
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I think it is disqusting the way all of you go on and have such hatred for a woman who believes in Chritian values. That doesn"t make her a terrible person. You don't know her or even try to read up to know her but yet you want a socialist, lier, a friend of terorists, a friend of Rabbi Wolfe.
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I would be proud to have her as V.P. sorry.
She has a degree in Journalism and Economics. she served 4 years on city councel. She was mayor, she ran for Lt. govenor and now for Govenor and has a 82% rate of acceptance and likeabilty from the Alaskan public.
What has Biden done in 32 years of office.
Obama he has only been in office 4 years, two of them running for President.
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allen11 year, 1 month ago
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SHE made her religion part of this campaign by pushing it. I don't care about her religion but she wants to use it to legislate against me and my friends. She also used her religion in pushing an "anti-abortion" stance that will never pass.
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Poulenc1 year, 1 month ago
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Palin's a culture-war commando. Nasty social conservatism plus primitive religious belief, wrapped up in expensive clothes and jest-folks beauty-queen "appeal"--and all in the service of...self-aggrandizement.
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Poulenc1 year, 1 month ago
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Well, Hhuusk, I suppose Palin's religion isn't a problem if it keeps solely to itself.
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Trouble is, the religious right wants the entire world to be made/remade in its own sectarian image. It wants to legislate its own draconian morality.
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motivator9111 year, 1 month ago
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joe biden over 30 years in the senate in the know sat in numerous meeting in which national interest knowledge was of the utmost importance stated that barack obama is not ready for the office of president and the office of president does not lend itself to on the job training he also said that he would not only be honored to run against John McCain but HONORED to run as John McCains vice president. now what kind of fool votes for a man slammed by his own V.P.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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I guess you haven'e been paying attention, Caribu Barbie has gone rogue. She doesn't class with the Cindy McBeer Heiress Never Worked A Day In Her Hundred Million Dollar Priveledged Life, so Caribu Barbie has taken her 16 retarded children and is off campaining for 2012 already, with the backing of Christian Zionist Antisemites of Alaska and Alabama.
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John McSenile dropped incindary bombs on vietnamese children, and you repugs call him a war hero. Last in his class in Anapolis, but due to his admiral daddies influence, he was promoted over the heads of way more intelligent and more qualified people to fly jets, which he then crashed, and spend 5 years in a Hanoi Prison. Baby Killer war hero McCain. What a repugnicon cauldren of liquid crap.
This is the most pathetic ticket in the history of the country, the oldest man and the stupidest evangelical religious zealot unqualified hick beauty queen barbie, as a reflection of what is left of the GOP after the Brains left. You people are pathetic.
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motivator9111 year, 1 month ago
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SEE FOR YOURSELF
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out of the mouth of obama's running mate
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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See for yourself: Caribu Barbie takes charge of the Senate, cause thats what she thinks a VP does.
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See for yourself, a witch doctor preforms a exorcism on Governer Barbie.
See for yourself, as Caribu Barbie blasts a moose with a 30:06 from 20 yards out of her pink Hum Vee, then field dresses it, tearing off the testicles of the Bull Moose with her teeth, and not even splattering blood on her pink bikini.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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I think McSenile died in Vietnam, and some alien lizard is wearing the wrinkled McSenile suit. Watch your pets when McSenile is around, its coiled tongue can snatch up small game in a microsecond through the gaping McSenile pie hole. Cindy McSenile is its Stepford robot, to be unleashed if he loses.
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Ever wonder why McSenile lurches around onstage, like Edgar in the movie Men In Black? Its the lizard underneath.
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