Ex-CIA Expert: Obama Took Millions in Illegal Foreign Donations »
Posted By Karlyc 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsObama's $4,000,000 infomercial: possibly illegal.
A Newsmax investigation of Obama/Biden campaign contributors, undertaken in conjunction with a private investigative firm headed by a former CIA operations officer, has identified 118 donors who appear to lack U.S. citizenship.
Some of these “red flag” donors work for foreign governments; others have
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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Under federal law, only U.S. citizens or permanent residents may donate to federal political campaigns. It is illegal for the campaigns to accept money knowingly from foreign donors.
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The McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill of 2002 placed new restrictions on political fundraising after the scandals of 1996, when the Clinton-Gore re-election campaign was exposed for having taken millions of dollars of unregulated soft money from donors with ties to Chinese military intelligence.
But even with the new laws, it remains very difficult to identify with any precision foreign money if a campaign itself does not cooperate with the Federal Election Commission and perform its own due diligence.
Until very recently, the Obama campaign had no safeguards in its online fundraising Web site designed to weed out foreign donors. Instead, its operations appeared to be designed specifically to enhance the flow of illegal money.-

Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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The Newsmax investigation focused only on donors whose names the Obama campaign disclosed, which are available to public scrutiny through the Federal Election Commission Web site.
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In addition to the donations the campaign has disclosed, however, it has taken an unprecedented $218 million from donors whose names it is keeping secret, according to FEC spokesman Robert Biersack. -

nostalgia1 year, 1 month ago
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Did you read this??
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Palestinian in Gaza refugee camp cold calling random Americans for Obama
Palestinian Ibrahim Abu Jayab, 24, is seen next to his computer, in his family house in Nusayrat refugee camp, central Gaza Strip, Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008. A young Palestinian in a Gaza refugee camp is doing his part to get out the vote for Barack Obama. With a little help from the Internet, 24-year-old Ibrahim Abu Jayab is cold calling random American families from his parent's home imploring them to vote Obama
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
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My my, KarlyC's Slime Machine has hit high gear. If any of these accusations of wrongdoing are really true, simply prove one of them and your pathetic liar, McCain will win be default.
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It's pretty easy to tell McCain is a liar.
"The economy is fundamentally strong." and two hours later, "The economy is in crisis."
"Letterman, I'm suspending my campaign to solve the financial crisis." then, "Katie, so glad you could give me time to get my message out on a more favorable venue than Letterman."
:If the bailout package isn't passed, I will not debate." then, "I can't skip the debate and let Obama have free air time unchallenged."
Opposing the bush tax cuts in 2002 because they unduly favored the rich and now saying that only by tax cuts that favor the rich can we revive the economy that tax cuts for the rich wrecked.
Now there are a legion of other lies from McCain Palin, but when the man contradicts himself so often, it's clear that if one of his two conflicting statements is true, the other must be false. -

Leemck021 year, 1 month ago
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I wonder if this was an analyst who determined WMD was in Iraq? If he knew such, Obama would have the Department of Justice all over him. If he did, what does that say for 'W's' surveillance Acts, invading our lives? The CIA should just take them out then with all that evidence. LOL at the foolishness.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 1 month ago
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Why don't you just get your posse out and go get him and string him up, like in the good old days...You remember, when a black man would have the nerve to even look at a white woman..
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Oh, lordy lordy, he could be our President!~!
Heaven forbid we have someone represent the 96.7% of America who earn
less than $250,000..(bigots are excluded from those demographics)
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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A veteran investigator with the Criminal Investigative Division of the U.S. Secret Service told Newsmax on Monday that most of the donor fraud Newsmax has identified could fly under the radar of federal investigators, unless the feds received a complaint from a victim of identify fraud.
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Identify fraud certainly appeared to be the case when it came to the $174,800 donated in September in the name of Manchester, Mo., resident, Mary T. Biskup.
A retired insurance manager, Biksup told The Washington Post that she never gave the money to the Obama campaign, and had checked her credit-card statements and couldn’t find any trace of a charge to her account. -
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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Fraud and deceit are accepted standards there .
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That's kind of insulting to the people of Chicago;
is it really a more corrupt city than New York, or LA or Houston?
Is Illinois more corrupt than Alaska?
And are you against fraud and deceit, nostalgia?
If so, when ?
I don't mean when have you shouted 'fraud' at an opponent;
I mean, when did you say to a conservative poster,
- that is deceitful? That is fraudulent?
My impression is, fraud and deceit are accepted standards by many on Propeller;
but that does not mean that everone here is a liar.
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 1 month ago
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http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?sort=...
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Not sure if this link will work;?-

flyonthewallzz1 year, 1 month ago
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Nope: did not work right.
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I thought the names of the authors campaign contributors where interesting.
Recipient:
Timmerman, Kenneth R (R)
Contributor:
AFSHAR, NADER
ALKASEH, LUTHER
ALTAN, SANJ
BATMANGHELIDJ, BAHMAN
BOR, HOSSEIN
BRYEN, SHOSHANA
MAALIZADEH, BAHMAN
SEMNANI, KHOSROW
VON HASSELL, AGOSTINO
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GWHayduke1 year, 1 month ago
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And that scrutiny provides you with what?
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Speculation, supposition, implication, conjecture, suspicion, hunches, opinion and wild flailing stabs in the dark?
You are dredging the bottom eh, Alphared?
Sad to see you stoop to such a pathetic level.
Sad to see that someone who claims to be a patriotic American, blatantly smearing the next president.
Very unAmerican of you.
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nikkibabe1 year, 1 month ago
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Mewsmax, Fox News, Drudge Report are Republican media outlets. If you believe what they say and report, you have to agree that Bush & Cheney are honest people!.
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Screw them all.
All they are worried about are two things:
. Abortion staying legal
. Supreme Court leaning to the right
They don't care sh&% about economic crisis, foreclosures, job loses, unemployment, lost retirement savings, 40 million without health care and seniors who are trading food for prescription drugs.-

AnteUp1 year, 1 month ago
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Nikkibabe ~
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And don't forget Rev. Moon.
Beginning in the mid-1980s Moon, who was an ardent anticommunist, began to gain allies among conservative political groups in the United States by making financial contributions to them. He also founded The Washington Times...........................
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761589492/moon...
Don't you think he exemplifies the type of people that we want participating in our
political process? Read below how pro-American HIS views are:
Ex-President Bush’s pro-Moon speeches came at a time, too, when Moon – now 80 – was expressing intensely anti-American views. In the mid-1990s, Moon denounced the United States as “Satan’s harvest” and condemned American women as having descended from a “line of prostitutes.”
In a speech to his followers on Aug. 4, 1996, Moon vowed to liquidate American individuality, declaring that his movement would “swallow entire America.” Moon said Americans who insisted on “their privacy and extreme individualism … will be digested.”
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/010301a.html
Within that Consortium article - check out the money he has sent to North Korea!
We should all be able to sleep well knowing the Republicans - and their gurus -
have our national security as their highest priority - lol!!
Even if this thread is correct? I'll take eight $25 contributions from Guatemala
anyday over the type of backing and influence being gathered by the other side.
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Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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The article presents an analysis of Obama's illegal foreign donors, as performed by an ex-CIA agent. You may agree or disagree with his analysis, but making an assertion as to the website does not advance a discussion of it. One could conclude by the failure to discuss the content that the critic lacks basis to dispute.
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
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Sorry. That's not how it works. It's up to the claimant who says Obama has taken illegal donations to 'prove' or 'disprove' anything.
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Since there's no actual evidence and since NewsMax and this ex-CIA agent haven't brought suit against Obama then it's pretty clear this is yet another Repugnant Con fear and smear campaign.
I mean what ex-CIA agent would let the possible next president of the US get away with such a heinous crime, right? Unless this was a poor argument dressed up in gold to make Repugnant Cons feel good about voting for a monster like McCain. -

Karlyc1 year, 1 month ago
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To the contrary, it is how it works. Failing to rebut content exposes the fallacy of the argument. The fact of the matter is an ex-CIA agent looked at the evidence and Obama's fundraising tactics and concluded he has taken illegal foreign donations.
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Obama probably is hoping to run out the clock and then let the whole mess sort itself out after election day when, if he is elected it is too late.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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Karlyc,,just love your spin
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FTA:
"Rustmann and his investigative team expressed “high suspicions” that 118 donors flagged as “red” were not U.S. citizens.
“That’s all we can say for certain, because it’s difficult to prove citizenship with no database that lists citizens,” Rustmann said.
WHAT ANALYSIS....more like ANAL
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rosecityfriend1 year, 1 month ago
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"One apparent reason for the unusual number of foreign donors who may not hold U.S. citizenship is the fact the Obama campaign turned off the security features most merchants demand for customers when doing online transactions, such as verifying the card number against the cardholder’s name and billing address."
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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No, the change that is needed is to get as far away from what your type of thinking produces.
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There is no reasoning with a suicide bomber as he is brainwashed, and there is no reasoning with you either.
And yes, your thinking is a slow form of suicide.
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normallysilent1 year, 1 month ago
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"Another late attempt to destroy Obama's reputation."
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And just how pry tell does one go about tarnishing the fine reputation of a crooked Chicago politician?
Get a picture of them helping a little old lady cross the street.??
More negatives are just a confirmation of the already known.
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Hhussk1 year, 1 month ago
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For comparitive purposes, I'd like to ask a question. Yes, I'm aware that Obama promised he would take "public financing" and then backed out.
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My question to all of you is if your candidate is releasing his donation list?
The transparency of a candidate - the candidate's willingness to let me look into his conduct - is the greatest check to his power.-
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JamesMarcus1 year, 1 month ago
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I've made up my mind to pretty much avoid the comment threads until after Election Day. Yet the idiocy of this story is proving irresistible. Back in February, the number of individual donors to Obama's campaign surpassed the 1,000,000 mark. No doubt it's much higher by now. How alarming, then, that an "investigation" has cast doubts upon a whopping 118 donors--why, that's a near-plurality! I also loved the part about the "yellow flags" assigned to donors who didn't supply their Social Security numbers. Here's some breaking news for the ex-CIA investigator: most online donation forms don't even have a field for SS numbers, they demand only name, address, and occupation from the donor. This is true for both the Obama and McCain websites.
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There are honorable and intelligent rationales to vote for John McCain. This trumped-up nonsense has nothing to do with them. -
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kfolive1 year, 1 month ago
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You just dont know when to quit do you??!! Stop with the slanderous liable crap! What makes me laugh though is everytime I have come back with a logic report to your viale bs - you just dont respond. very typical unintelligent fare.
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mayabelle11071 year, 1 month ago
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This guys a mess!!! What does he do besides associate with criminals and terrorists? He's never written a piece of legislation and he was a lobbyist for acorn and other "community organizations" before being a do-nothing junior senator for a year before he started running for president. How is this even a slightly tough decision? McCain is a dedicated American who has been consistent in his policies. I honestly can't even believe it's this close!
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