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Posted By PinkyPie 1 year ago in NewsPolice are investigating the discovery of an effigy of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama dangling from a tree this morning at the University of Kentucky campus in Lexington.
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PinkyPie1 year ago
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Nixie1 year ago
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amervtrn1 year ago
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Why are the dumbocrat liberals fighting this fight again? It was settled years ago (the 60s and 70s) by the Supreme Court. Guess who where the ones fighting that it was free speech? The dumbocrat liberals. You can not have it both ways. As it has been said before, What you say may make my blood boil, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it. Grow up!
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Keep America Free
McCain-Palin 08-

blainegarrett1 year ago
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While I would agree with you, I believe the Palin dummy was on private property and this was on Public school property. I'm not sure the exact laws (I believe they vary state to state) on passers-by and neighbors being subjected to the Palin dummy on private property. However, having the Obama dummy in public space on a state school campus is breaking the law. This is why people get so upset when NEA grants are used for exhibitions featuring works like Andres Serrano's "**** Christ" or when public schools allow for "offensive" material. I put offensive in quotes, because what is "in good taste" is usually the benchmark. I don't believe either of these dummys are in good taste.
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pc251 year ago
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http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2016
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Dionys1 year ago
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It's offensive in either situation, but there's a hell of a lot more history of the 'lynchings' of black men in US history than anyone white. It takes on horrificly racist overtones in one case and it's offensive in general in the other case.
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automan9091 year ago
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Lots of white folks have been lynched here too. Haven't you watched ant western movies?
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Hang-em high?
Blacks have a complex that everything with a noose is meant for them.
They can call whites crackers and whitey but if whites use the N word it's the end of the world.
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Dionys1 year ago
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"Lots of white folks have been lynched here too. Haven't you watched ant western movies?
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Hang-em high?"
Yep. Movies. In which hanging was typically a part of justice. As opposed to lynchings. Where hanging was the fundamental expression of injustice.
"Blacks have a complex that everything with a noose is meant for them."
For a good long time, everything with a noose WAS meant for them. Even this year there was a dragging death in the south with the black man being dragged behind the truck in a noose. You're either being intentionally ignorant, which is typical of the GOP, or are simply uneducated. -

kobzikov1 year ago
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I can always count on you to excuse racism, automan.
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If you were a rational person and not a racist I could attempt to reason with you and try to explain that most of the lynchings of blacks are racially motivated, whereas for the most part the only time racially motivated lynchings of whites have occured in the past was when white abolitionists and those who supported equal rights have been lynched by KKK.
However, bigotry is not based on rational thought, so there is nothing that I can possibly say to get you to acknowledge the simple fact that lynchings were one of the main tools to enforce white supremacy. Then again, you might have no problems with white supremacy considering your comments just on the board alone. -

Dionys1 year ago
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"They can call whites crackers and whitey but if whites use the N word it's the end of the world."
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Cracker and whitey are certainly racist terms.
However they don't have the weight of 200+ years of slavery, abuse, murder, rape and torture behind them, as the n-word does.-
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GehlLady1 year ago
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Cracker is only a racist term becuse it has been hijacked. Where and the history of why, I don't know. I've always wondered, haven't found been able to find it yet. Anyone know? I do know, originally a cracker was a Florida cowoy. It referred to the crack of the whip. cattle were in Florida 17 years before the southwest, and the first cattle men were called cow hunters.
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prince21 year ago
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lots of white folks have been lynched here too. Western movies....
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The whites that were hunged were criminals....The black men that were hunged were innocent men minding their business.....the black men did not commit any crie mes....read your history books...
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kobzikov1 year ago
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I personally don't care about neg votes, but I think you've been negged unfairly, since I'm quite sure you were agreeing with Dionys and not automan, considering your past comments on the board and your positive rating of Dionys' comment.
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kobzikov1 year ago
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First of all, ones right to freedom of speech does not require to be truthful or honest. If it did the vast majority of right-wingers would be banned already for lying.
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Second, can you explain what distinction do you make between terrorists and those who provide them with material support?
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Goppy1 year ago
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Christian Conservatives claim that American Democrats are degenerates.
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And yet ... a large portion of Christian Conservatives and Republicans curiously wind up seeking Homosexual thrills ... Tom Foley, Ted Haggerd, Jimmy Swaggert, that guy in the toilet stall ... ... ... oh ... ... ... this list could go on forever. -

Goppy1 year ago
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Christian Conservatives will always rationalize lynching because the foundation of the American Christian Conservative Movement grew out of the collective rage against the Civil Rights Movement.
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White Pentecostal Church goers ... mystified at their world being radically changed ... sought solace at their small town churches.
The preachers advocated for their flock by opposing Lyndon Johnson ... and a coalition was born ... the Republican Party and Christian Conservatives ... together ... fighting against Civil Rights, fighting against Peace in Vietnam ... and the fight goes on today.
Sure, it's the essence of Moral Vacancy ... but what would anyone expect from this merger?
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Goppy1 year ago
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You often claim that ... I don't know why.
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Do you feel like if you say it, you can make it happen?
Look ... let me tell you something ... you probably don't understand this but ... you will be far better off with Obama as President.
You have been royally duped if you think otherwise.
And not only that ... if you really think things are going to change with McCain as president ... then you are smoking crack ... or you are insane.
And I define insanity as doing the same thing over and over and over and over .... always expecting a different result.
McCain is doing the same thing over again.
Get it?
Now get out there and vote for America!
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FSU92grad1 year ago
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Another unintelligent voter allowed to vote....
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I think people should have to take some sort of test or something to certify you're not delusional before you vote....
something....It's pretty bad when anybody with a pulse can vote for someone who so obviously bad for America like Obama and doesn't really take the time to understand his Marxist policies and anti-American mannerisms...
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Natureboy1 year ago
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If you needed to pass a test to vote, "FSU," I doubt you would make the cut.
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If history were part of your studies at FSU, you would recall that such tests WERE once administered, and along with the imposition of a poll tax they were used to exclude blacks from the vote.
Doesn't surprise me that you would advocate a return to such practices.
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Bacalao1 year ago
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Yo Flunky. In case you didn't know, Once upon a time there was a person called Luvmyprez here on netscape. She got banned for a TOS violation. Most on the left didn't like her. Oddly enough I and a few others tried to have her reinstated. Even though she was a "Bushie" she could also be intelligent and fair minded.
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You are no Luvmyprez. If I were to put my feelings for you in print I would be TOSsed so quickly you would be amazed.
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prince21 year ago
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christian conservatives....white pentecostal church goers.....Do you know it was the white pentecostal and black pentecostal church goers that held church service together at a time when it was a law that stated white and black christians could not have church service together...please go to a library and read about your history in amercian not just what the klu klux klan is teaching you
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Goppy1 year ago
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I personally believe that the Right Wing Extremists on this page will say any lie, promote any division ... for the purpose of promoting chaos around the political candidate they oppose.
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This is a classic political practice.
It's been done for ages.
The fact that my fellow Christian Conservatives are becoming increasingly shrill in their mock outrage ... only tells me that ... it's simply not working.
And the reason it's not working is that America can see through the BS ... and America sees Obama as a sincere, Christian, moral human ... as opposed to Johnny Shapeshifter ... who will literally say anything to get elected.
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Goppy1 year ago
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Christian Conservatives call Obama a Socialist.
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But they are mum about the most obvious example of Socialism our nation has seen in 60 years ... the George W. Bush Bailout.
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GehlLady1 year ago
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"But they are mum about the most obvious example of Socialism our nation has seen in 60 years ... the George W. Bush Bailout."
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The bailout could have been prevented by the Democrats. They dropped the ball. Looks like they have joined the Morally Vacant Club.
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Goppy1 year ago
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Nixie ... one of the most vicious of posters ... along with FSUgrad .... oh and aniokley .... and GLee ... oh ... and RedRiver ... oh ... and .... well .... most all of you ... say vicious, sick, degrading, morally vacant comments on a regular basis ... and when someone from the left responds in kind, ... you zero in on the respondent and demand an apology!
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In fact, I would not be surprised if that wasn't why redtomato was banned ... as this member consistently said the most vile, disrespectful comments to people who were only proffering their opinion.
This then .... this .... is why America is turning Her back on you ... all you know is attack ... all you know is Fear and Smear.
Sure, it's a bona fide, Machiavellian method of winning elections ... but, when that's all you put up year after year after year ... Americans become hip to the Fundamental Moral Vacancy.
Personally, I think y'all been married to the Moral Perversion and Fundamental Hypocrisy of the Modern Republican Party so long ... you've completely lost your moral compass.
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Goppy1 year ago
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You know ... I'd like to point out to y'all that it was only 19 years ago that the last black man was lynched.
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Did you hear me?
In 1989, the last recorded black man was lynched ... for being black.
Racism runs deep in this country.
The fact that none of you seem to 'get' the gravity of 'mock lynchings' only validates my point that the Modern American Christian Conservative Movement is ... at thecore ... founded upon the fight AGAINST Civil Rights in the South. I personally believe that it's an endemic suspicion ... an Intolerance for anything slightly different that binds this 'Movement' together.
Now, I know you are good people. And I know that you can't possibly be the Crazy Extremists you promote yourselves to be.
I know that if I met you face to face, I would like you and we would get along fine.... well except FSU92grad ... (I actually believe he's a little prick ... but that's just my interpretation of his insult based commentary.)
But you have to understand ... America needs to move past the blind, ignorant hatred that is the origin of the Christian Conservative Movement.
I believe that racism does at least as much harm to the racist hater as it does to the object of the racist's hatred.
And don't kid yourself .... racism has harmed our nation deeply.
You know, in France, where racism was never nearly the issue it has been in America ... blacks and whites work together.
I believe the best thing that could happen to this country is for Barack Obama to become president so that America can turn the page on the Racial Hatred and Love for War that defines the Modern American Christian Conservative Movement.
Don't you agree, in your heart of hearts, that calling yourselves Christians, and harboring such hatred, hypocrisy, and Moral Vacancy, you demean the essential message of Love that Jesus taught?
I hope you agree.
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prater56001 year ago
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You're comparing apples and oranges.
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Why are they comparing the comments of the authorities and the comments of the person who hung the effigy of Palin? Why don't they compare authorities with authorities?
I'm pretty sure the person who hung the effigy of Obama thought it was art too.
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ETproductions1 year ago
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It's contemptible in both cases. All but the fringe on both sides have said so. That said, it's also free speech, a fundamental of the Constitution.
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The Secret Service should investigate both perps to see if they really intend any harm to a candidate. But both do have the right to do it. -

NoWayMan1 year ago
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how fu*king stupid are you?
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if america had a sad, sordid history of hanging white women from trees, then the Palin effigy would be terrible and everyone would be outraged.
but we don't have that history.
we have a history of lynching black men.
the Plain thing was in poor taste, but considering our history, an effigy of a black man is unspeakable and unforgivable.
unless you're a racist.
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NoWayMan1 year ago
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it was meant for you too, since you most definitely are a big time stupid piece of sh*t.
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instead of joining us in the 21st century you'd rather defend racists who think hanging effiegies of a black man is a.o.k.
and...
very-well disliked?
what does that mean?
try to make some sense next time.
you're nothing but a shortcut to thinking.
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GLee1 year ago
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RedRiverJ1 year ago
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Not a surprise there, Palin is art, Obama racist. What do you expect from the news media that did re runs on Obambi's 30 minute INFOmercial. They are choosing our President for us. We are being bamboozled. If the authorities sit on their butts and let this voter fraud, the illegal shady campaign contributions go, radical associations go, shame on them, unfortunately we the masses will pay the ultimate price of being robbed of our liberties and our life savings. OLD JOE HAS ALREADY DROPPED THAT TAX LIMIT. Stay tuned for more drops in the tax limit. 40 thousand dollars a year is coming soon!!!!
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HannibalBarca1 year ago
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Did you know that shrub borrowed $600 bill-$1 trill.from social security funds to cover your tax rebate checks you got ?
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What do you call that.
And he was not the first to do this.
In Canada our social security went bankrupt in the 80's due too the same thing, then again in the 90's, no repercussions though; but if private industry does anything to pension funds, off to jail with them.
As Mark Knoppler said in a song "when you point your finger, you have 3 more pointing back at you"
Redistributing the wealth has been going on for decades, it is not a new idea by Obama, just a different way of doing it.
shrub and others taking from pension funds are taking from mainstreet to cover programs, Obama bringing taxes for the rich back to the 1990 era is trying to give it back to mainstreet.
And as McC said himself in the primaries, he voted with shrub 90% of the time, so more of the same sounds realistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThoBMfcFRc-

Engnr1 year ago
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Ok I won't vote for Bush. Or the Democrats and Republicans that pushed that bill through either. Or anyone who voted for the 700B bail out, that includes BO and JM. Will you do the same, or are you all talk? Oh, you don't get to vote, Ha Ha. So what you have to say is meaningless.
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UrbanBlog1 year ago
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If your stating that "Whites" can be the victim of "Hate crimes" the answer is absolutely!
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This is not just a theoretical possibility, It is a real problem that occurs frequently. Do I believe that it's ok, or that minorities should get a "Pass" just because they are a member of a particular group? Again the answer is NO.
Remember an Effigy is a symbol. symbols have meaning. .
Someone could spay paint something on my garage door and I will consider it vandalism, Someone could spay paint that same thing on someone else's door garage door, and it could make them fear for their life.
History matters!
I have very little patience for :Hate speech" no matter where it comes from, while I personally do not believe Palin is ready to be president, I certainly wish her no ill will. Is OK for someone to hang an Effigy of Palin, the answer is No.
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ANGELFACE221 year ago
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THE SARAH PALIN DOLL WAS A METAPHOR FOR THE SCAPEGOATING THAT WILL BE DONE NOV.5TH THE DOLL WAS UNDER A MCCAIN DOLL. THE DIFFERENCE IS AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE LYNCHED FOR NO GOOD REASON AT ALL. THE RIGHT TO VOTE, EQUAL RIGHTS, WALKING DOWN THE STREET, JUST FOR BEING BLACK AND/OR JUST FOR FUN. DO WHITE WOMEN IN AMERICA DIE BY HANGING? DO BLACKS (MEN AND WOMEN) DIE IN AMERICA BY HANGING? NO ANSWER NEEDED . WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER. 2 WHITE MEN HUNG THE "DOLL" . MANY WHITE MEN HUNG MANY LIVING , BREATHING AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR NO REASON AT ALL. THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT RACIST.SNAP OUT OF IT AMERICA!
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memestryker1 year ago
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Even in the 1960s, Condi Rice's father and other neighbors sat at the entrance to their cul-de-sac with guns because the police weren't going to help them against violent racists.
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Violence against women also is a very serious issue that a lot of people don't realize is quite common--or don't care.
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mesodude1 year ago
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This is why cons are always looking over their shoulders. You people just don't know when to shut up. If you don't know what it means to be enslaved and/or oppressed because of your skin color then perhaps you shouldn't be suggesting that any two situations are exactly alike. A man can be raped but he can never know what it's like to be a woman who is raped. Unless maybe he has a sex change operation. But now that I think about it, not even then could he know because he is not 100% anatomically correct. Advances are being made all the time. In science, I mean...So maybe one day a surgically constructed vagina will be indistinguishable from a real one. We're just not there yet. Be patient...Anyhoo.
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willottica1 year ago
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This is an interesting situation, if we take the time to analyze our own reactions to it.
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My original emotion was one of disgust over the hanging Obama, and the hanging Palin didn't elicit the same response.
Palin's was part of a larger display that included a burning McCain... it seemed related to the party. It also didn't seem to make the statement that Palin SHOULD be hung or McCain SHOULD be burned. Maybe that's because this was set up as a Hallowe'en display, and the "artist" was not afraid to be identified.
Compare this to the hanging Obama, which seems to be anonymous, and not part of any larger display. Maybe it's the rhetoric that's been flying around for the last few months of campaigning, or the 2 foiled assassination plans so far, but this is more of a suggestion than a joke. It's almost as though the anonymous "artist" is saying that Obama should be strung up. It also has too many echoes of historical racism for comfort.
So far as I know, white women haven't been hung, and old white men haven't been burned in chimneys (Santa excluded), yet many black men were strung up and left hanging in trees in the nation's past.
Is there a double standard? Yes. I think there is. And the first stage is admitting it. The second step is not to condone the hanging Obamas, but to condemn the hanging Palins.-

DeauxNut1 year ago
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You know, I tried - in vain - to find something partisan in your analysis in order to neg it and post a scathing reply. But I couldn't. And with that in mind I applaud the rhetoric and appreciate the post, thanks. And besides, after this submission made the Top Stories, this just isn't any fun any longer. G'nite.
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willottica1 year ago
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Thanks Deaux, I try very hard to be non-partisan. I think painting all Liberals or all Conservatives with the same brush does a disservice to most of the members of either party. It's really the same with any label. You cannot know a person just by which party, ethnic group, or any other subset they choose to identify with.
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However, when I ran as a New Democrat (NDP) in the most recent Canadian Federal Election, I noticed how hard it can be to remain non-partisan. The tendency to want to see the wrong done by your opponents is enormous, and its influence is very subtle. I'm having a hard time figuring out if the Conservative I ran against (who was largely absent throughout the campaign) is someone I could normally support, or if he's as dismissive of his constituents as I felt he was after campaigning against him.
I really dislike party politics. I chose to run under a party, because I was late to the game, and thought it best to have some experienced politicos to learn from. I did not like having to "stick to the message," especially when 2/3 of the message was how bad the Conservatives and the Liberals were. On the other hand, at least we had 1/3 for ourselves. I noticed during one hour-long television show, ads from the Conservatives telling us how weak the Liberals were, ads from the Liberals telling us how untrustworthy the Conservatives were, and the New Democrat Ad which attacked the Conservative plan, but at least offered the NDP plan as a contrast. The net messaging: Liberals are weak; Conservatives are untrustworthy; the NDP have a plan.
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sfcat1 year ago
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I first heard about the palin hanging mannequin on MSNBC, where Keith Olbermann condemned it. Every time I saw it on any of the news shows, they condemned it. Why is this even an issue? Because the idiot who put it up called it something else? I'm sure the kid who put up the Obama effigy didn't call it a disgusting example of bad taste, but it was!
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Natureboy1 year ago
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I don't know about payback time, but I'm pretty sure "whitedebbie8" is a bitch. A bitch who is to fscking stupid to use her caps lock key appropriately.
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I don't know what she "8," but if she 8 it today I'm pretty sure I 8 it yesterday.
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Will13131 year ago
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I find them BOTH VERY DISTASTEFUL... that being said.. one party hung the effigy on his property and took credit for doing so.... and as least offered a half-assed defense of why....
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the other did his act in the middle of the night on a college campus and was not proud enough to stick around and defend his actions....
both in my opinion are very distasteful.. but the LIB at least had the balls to defend his actions.. the CON .. hid in the middle of the night..-
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DeauxNut1 year ago
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Neither disingenious nor your friend. And to think I was actually going to congratulate you for a great post .. and then you had to go and spoil it with that last comment, it wasn't necessary. For where I'm going with this, read the post by WILLOTTICA and you'll see what I mean and my genuine reply.
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Will13131 year ago
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well when you start calling out the other side.. then we can talk.. till then you're being hypocritical.. ...
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the thread is highly partisan.... i neither want nor need your approval....
have a nice evening.... I'm going to quaff a couple beers and play some pool...
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Natureboy1 year ago
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An Obama effigy was also hanged in Las Vegas, New Mexico yesterday -
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paramale1 year ago
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I'm white, and even I can see the difference between the two effigies. For decades Southernors lyched blacks and hung them from trees while the town (or rather the whites in the town) used it as a social occasion. If my memory is correct, the KKK got its most dynamic start in of all places southern Indiana, which borders on Kentucky where I am GUESSING kkk activity was pervasive. Hanging Obama or any effigy of an Afro-American can never be looked at as art because of this lynching history and the fact that it is easy to see that it may be more than against Obama, it may be directed to the entire black race. These states are working hard to overcome racial discord in their cities, so the strong reaction to me goes along with that effort.
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Hanging Palin in effigy is to me a whole different matter. There is no national history of white lynchings that the effigy could be a reminder of, and Palin herself is a bigot. Her effigy is actually hanging the bigotry she so clearly represents. That is part of the reason she thinks small towns are the true America, while city folk in Blue Areas pay 92% of our tax revenue. Small towns in the heartland of America are almost always pure white with maybe one token black family. I should know, I grew up in one, and got the hell out as soon as I could and never regretted the decision. -
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NoWayMan1 year ago
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um, disagreeing with him is one thing. hanging him in effigy is another.
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please. for the love of christ. get a clue (or at least some historical context)
and if you can't get a clue, keep your mouth shut so you don't expose yourself as the racist you really are. because only a racist would let this slide.
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Codi69341 year ago
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Me a racist, you have not seen some of the women that I have dated. You are right, it is time to move on. Learn from the past, live in the present, AND WORK TOWARD A BETTER FUTURE!! If he wins this race crap has to stop or we will continue to look back and not forward. Or only look back when it can serve his purpose.
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memestryker1 year ago
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Juvenile people do such things on Halloween--and also do it to make political statements.
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I remember being at a location where Nixon had been carried down the street in effigy and was being burned in a bonfire. My father thought it was horrific, and I just thought it was juvenile.
The best way to approach something like this is to ignore it and not give them the attention they crave. They want to show disrespect for the person and then get people to react--that's the whole point. It's obviously racism and sexism, but there is no reasoning with juvenile, bigoted minds. -

prater56001 year ago
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How stupid can you all be?
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The article compared the comments of the AUTHORITIES to the comments of the PERPETRATOR! Of course the perpetrator is going to see nothing wrong with what he did! Of course the authorities are going to condemn a hanging effigy!
And you use this article for justification for you irrational hatred of Obama.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year ago
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Hey, Cons, one was on a person's PRIVATE PROPERTY, the other was not.
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What don't you get about that?
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kobzikov1 year ago
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Let me get this straight, if you think that hanging effigy of Palin is "fun", then you should be PUT TO DEATH???
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I'm guessing William and Robin Frazier are not big fans of the First Amendment.
I personally despise hate speech and racism a lot more then mindless idiocy of calling hanging of effigies "fun", but last time I checked even Nazis had the freedom to be as hateful as they want on their own property.-

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kobzikov1 year ago
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True, but in the video the effigy was hanged on private property and seems to me a far cry from "shouting fire in a crowded theater".
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On the other hand, if hanging of an effigy on private property is in fact an incitement of violence and not protected speech, which I find rather unlikely since I've seen this done in public places at rallies, then it's hard for me to see how publicly calling for someone's hanging is not an incitement of violence and is protected speech.
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halinajoe1 year ago
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3 strikes for republicans
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Strike 1- Hoover- tanked the economy for the great depression - refused to intervene with regulation and the market crashed.
Strike 2- Bush the senior- S banking collapse, housing depression- deregulated the S
Strike 3- Bush the "W"- tanked the economy by deregulating the banking industry by the Republican Allen Greenspan's own admission. -

truthiness1 year ago
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a "correspondent" from the daily show went to a Palin rally and an Obama rally and interviewed the citizens in attendance. their responses about the opposing candidate could not have been more similar. an astounding commentary on american politics of fear
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jordan111 year ago
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Chad Michael, the SOB who put up the depiction of Palin, is a freak. The people in the 'neighborhood' who aren't offended, are freaks as well. I would be cutting that down before I let my children see such a dispicable thing. I'd also be asking where the hell the authorities were, that they weren't questioning the freak for an overt threat toward a political figure. For those of you who are stupid enough to link people you don't agree with politically to the freaks actions, you are the same as he is. Members of the freak class, who intrude on and denegrate a society of people who have worked for more than two centuries to build a society of REAL values. And finally, Americans are telling all of you, ENOUGH of your filth.
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