VIDEO: OPRAH SEES OWN PRESIDENTIAL VOTE DROPPED BY TOUCH-SCREEN VOTING MACHINE »
Posted By Spadecaller 1 year ago in News'I went back to check it, it had not recorded my presidential vote!' Oprah voted yesterday on an electronic voting machine. Whether it is a Diebold or Sequoia machine; her vote and yours is still 100% unverifiable.
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RickyDawkins1 year ago
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Candida1 year ago
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RickyDawkins: "people take this presidential stuff wayyy to seriously..."
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I hope you are joking Ricky. After all, it's only the future of your country, and to some extent the world, that's at stake here.
I just can't understand why Americans put up with these election machines? How much do they cost? What do they achieve? Is the tabulation of the results faster than with paper ballots? I don't think so. We have our results within hours, and the 2000 election results were delayed for weeks. What's even worse is that they breed distrust and hostility among the people.
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donald511 year ago
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Ricky, you have no conscience... must be a repug!
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If people took it seriously then over 1.2 million Iraqis might still be alive as well as over 4,ooo fine young Americans dead due to Dumya's lies!
Lost pensions, lost health care, lost homes, increased suicide, lost lives to needless wars... thanks to the Repugs! Repugs only concerned about losing a little money need to see the reality that it is a "life or death" issue!
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memestryker1 year ago
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I have to say I agree! /sarc
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Oprah is just reminding them to pay attention. They went to electronic in the first place because paper ballots are not foolproof--humans end up getting even more involved, and that's never an improvement.
In this election, I'm not crazy about the candidates, since both are planning to continue or expand church-state entanglement, which I oppose, and I'm strongly for both gay rights and the second amendment.
At least these bozos aren't Bush.
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Spadecaller1 year ago
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Spadecaller1 year ago
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Who cares?
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The entire world. Blacks, Hispanics, atheists, Catholics, Protestants, Baptists,Jews, patriots, Americans, Agnostics, homosexuals, democrats, republicans, conservatives, independents, Arabs, Muslims, Buddhists, liberals, voters,...
Who do you think does not care if Diebold, Sequoia, and ES & S select the next president?
How about: Neo-Nazis, neocons, skinheads, racists, white supremacists, dominionists, Sarah Palin, GEorge Bush, Dick Cheney, and John McCain? -
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Endoscopy1 year ago
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jordan111 year ago
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As much as it sickens me, at least NOW people will pay attention to the fact that those GD machines have screwed with the vote for eight years! No one would listen, the CONS wouldn't investigate when they had all the power, the democrats were too stupid to make it a big issue after 06. But NOW, because someone with some influence experienced it.....NOW it will be an issue. Gawd, that pi**es me off!
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cowboygrandpa1 year ago
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Again there is the question ???? I'm telling you if McCain wins illegally like Bush did !!!!!! There are going to be some seriously distressed and angry citizens !!!!
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How angry really depends on how well the exit polls are aligned with the outcome of the voting !!!!!!
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4thchance1 year ago
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"How angry really depends on how well the exit polls are aligned with the outcome of the voting"
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Have you forgotten? In the last election, most all the exit polls were saying KERRY winning by a land slide. So your exit poll idea is WORTHLESS TRIPE!
Exit Polls, the UN, Liberals...you're all kookoo!
Another point.
If you really beleive the republicans are able to win the elections by cheating, then how do you figure Obama or any Democrat will ever win another election? So by your theory of Repub election theft, you Dems are going to lose this election too.
So Sorry, Dems lose again!
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Spadecaller1 year ago
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The creeps from the voting machine companies better get ready for a quick trip to Russia, because enough people know what they have been up to.
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I can see it now; these jerks are probably getting scared. Will they have to "adjust" the machines again to correct their fix?
I have seen these machines hop from one selection to another non-selected candidate. Enough Americans have witnessed this crap.
I can see the Boston Harbor filled with electronic voting machines come November 5yh, if the vote is skewed again.-
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cowboygrandpa1 year ago
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"I can see the Boston Harbor filled with electronic voting machines come November 5yh, if the vote is skewed again."
As well as the owners of the company who falsified the votes !!!!!!! There will be no letting go of it this time !!!!
Fair warning liars and cheats !!!!!!! Do not try to steal this election enough people already know McCain has lost !!!!!!!!!!
I'm a fairly peaceable man until you steal my countries constitutional government, and replace it with the bought and paid for neocon trash !!!!!!!!!!
2000 was not acceptable, 2004 was the fire that started the boil, 2008 will be the explosion that happens when steam is pressurized beyond the capacity of the vessel holding it. Kind of like a boiler letting loose, it will shake this nation !!!!!
There is the safety valve, a fair election !!!!
If McCain wins it honestly, I won't like it !!! But I'll live with it !!!!!!
But since the odds of that happening are about the same of us getting out of Iraq if he is elected. I'd say we should see Obama declared the winner right after the polls close in Hawaii -
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Spadecaller1 year ago
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SAVE OUR VOTE... for those who have not seen this video...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9rZ9D-3ynY
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year ago
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It's remarkable that we allow for this to occur. It's a fact that the last 2 presidential elections were hacked. I think our friend Ricky was being sarcastic though. There is a new report that links
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Ohio vote tampering in the last presidential election to the same clowns who handled Bush Administration external e mails.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/11/01/document...
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tchef1 year ago
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Here in Maryland we are doing away with the voting machines all together. We haven't even finished paying for them yet. I don't understand why they can't put a little printer on the machine that will print out your votes, you can then sign them and deposit them in a box like we did our original voting cards then you would have a verifiable recount source.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year ago
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Absolutely! They have promised to do just that here in N.J. but sadly allegedly for budgetary reasons it has been postponed until Jan. (After the presidential election which blatantly sucks...) though if McCain wins here it will be too obvious a fraud, most of us NJ residents would cut off our hands before using them to "pull the lever" for a Republican fear mongering totalitarian piece of dung.
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protoham1 year ago
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Well you should not sign them, because it is suppose to be a secret ballot. But I agree, you should have to show a positive ID, You can use a computer if you want, but the end result would be a slip or page of paper that is scanned. The scanners would have to be verified by members of both parties. Or they could be hand counted.
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orndorffter1 year ago
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Tchef; Do you remember the 2000 Election? Al Gore won that election fair and square, but Bushed cryed and said my brother in Florida said I was the winner, then all the crap we had to go thaough for days, and they gave it to Bush even after they found boxes of Al Gores votes strung up and down the ocean bank beside phone boths and other places there were boxes of his votes that they just put along the road side and every where. I sure hope this does not end up another one of those days, That was wrong very wrong, but I think people like you and I are aware fo those days and maybe, just maybe there won't be another day like that again. Because they well do what ever that got to, to make our vote not count.
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Candida1 year ago
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tchef: "you can then sign them and deposit them in a box like we did our original voting cards then you would have a verifiable recount source."
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Unless I'm mistaken, votes are anonymous, so you can't sign them. What was wrong with your original voting cards? -
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memestryker1 year ago
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tchef, the problems with mistakes and fraud were huge with paper and are probably less with the electronic machines. But the conspiracy theorists are hot on this.
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And I agree, there is nothing stopping them from doing this. The programming would be straightforward, and it would be much better than the paper ballots.
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Poulenc1 year ago
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Of course one should always be...vigilant about fraud. It's a buyer-beware situation, really.
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In New York City, where I live, one registers one's vote using a very primitive mechanical contraption: you push a large lever to open the curtains of the both, mark your choices by flipping small levers allowing X's to pop up in actual tiny windows opposite candidates' names, then seal the deal by returning the lever to it's original position, which also opens the curtains so you can exit. Very 1954.
I've often wondered: is any of this connected to anything? The mechanical sounds of the machine are impressive, but...
I mean, what's the means by which the votes are actually recorded?
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year ago
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I believe those mechanical devices have a good record, we used them in NJ until 2004, the reason for the switch? allegedly repairs were too costly. The E machines we use now are wholly unreliable and 1st year computer students at Princeton were able to hack them in under 60 seconds, let alone the likelihood of the manufacturer's collusion with the GOP. I would feel much better about using the mechanical machines than these ridiculous no paper trail touch screens- incidentally could it really cost more to maintain those older mechanical machines
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than purchase these democracy prevention devices? NO! These machines cost over 4,000 apiece dollars to buy, but the cost of the (not optional) service that makes them work provided from the manufacturer doubles the cost. These things are just another example of the rape of America by GOP apocalyptic, bathroom-sex-seeking, wackjobs.
Have a look at what happened in Maryland, they are dumping the things even though they wasted a fortune on them.
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protoham1 year ago
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I have used those machines, they click counters in the rear depending which leaver you pushed down. The counters were manually read and logged at the end of the day. This was basically a mechanical calculator. I have no idea how reliable they are, but I suspect they were.
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italymeetsdixie1 year ago
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Where I live in VA, we have two kinds of voting. There are several touch screen voting machines, and the lines are always empty. Our people don't like them. We also have paper ballots that are read by a machine. If our vote is within a few percentage points the actual paper ballots are counted, for verification. Then they report the numbers for each precinct.
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But the paper ballots are counted and verified anyway after that, just to be sure that the machines were accurate.
Our district is doing away with the touch screens because we refuse to use them.
Also we have co registrars, one democrat and one republican.
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kickdrum11 year ago
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Ciera-Marie1 year ago
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protoham come on, Illinois is one of many states where citizens can vote early. Give me a break. (I seriously did click on the blue reply to link.)
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donald511 year ago
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Kick, are you the idiot who hasn't watched any news to see the 5 to 6 hour waits in Florida & Georgia for early voting?
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I live in Alabama where there is no early voting and all we ever hear here are repug lies on every commercial and local news broadcasts! No wonder this deluded state voted for Dumya 2 out of 3 last time! No wonder we send self-professed racists like Jeffery Beauregard Sessions,III, to washington repeately! Racist Sessions? Sure, he even admitted his racism to the Senate Judiciary when Reagan nominated him to a judgeship so he didn't even make a floor vote! -
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FairNBalanced1 year ago
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Why would a representative ask Oparah why she was going back to check her ballad? That does not even sound right. That sounds like she was not given privacy. That could be looked upon as harassment in a different scenario.
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I went back to double check my selections. Doesn't everyone? If a worker came over to ask me why I was going back, I would be offended and probably feel like I was being rushed.
If you are not diligent and double check who you have voted for, then you probably don't need to be voting in the first place.
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not2needy1 year ago
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Actually i don't think many of the poll workers are really volunteers.. Here, everyone who works the polls are paid 120.00 for the day!
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That said, regardless of whether it voluntarily or paid, it's their job to assist voters.. The problem probably comes in when they know you're not voting for their party!
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cowboygrandpa1 year ago
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Tango57:
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Can we say riots, mass demonstrations, refusal to accept the lies !!!!!!!!
Can we say Bush trying to impose martial law to maintain his beloved dictatorship !!!!!!!
Sadly I can see violence, something I never want in this country again !!!!!
But freedom must win out !!!!!!!!!! If our votes don't count, then they are saying we are no longer Americans with the right to choose or leaders and we need to address that in the most direct manner we can !!!!! With our voices and actions !!!!! -
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Tango571 year ago
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It will be more than interesting Tuesday night. Even though I know Obama currently holds 53% of all votes and has more than clinched the electoral votes, I'm anxious that somehow they will announce McCain as the winner. Here in Texas, a historic red state has turned blue over the last 2 weeks in early historic voter turnout. Obama leads at 53%. If they announce McCain as the winner, it will get ugly, real ugly..
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jaern1 year ago
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We still have a few days for an "emergency or act of terrorism" to take place.
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Mdiar1 year ago
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Texas will go for McCain. If Obama wins Texas we are approaching about 460 electoral votes for Obama. His realistic ceiling is about 400. Early voting is a sign of enthusiasm, not how the actual vote will go. Normally Republicans lead. The current early-voting numbers suggest that the Democratic Party will have a higher turnout then the Republican.
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4thchance1 year ago
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The headline to this story should be printed to be accurate, like this.
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OPRAH IS TO DUMB TO KNOW HOW TO OPERATE AN ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINE!
Be sure you all read the article before you run with the tripe posts you see here.
Opera didn't operate the voting machine correctly as she was instructed to do. Her vote wasn't counted because she did nopt operate the machine correctly.-
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OldBetty1 year ago
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Even people who don't like Oprah know that she isn't dumb. The point is if she made the mistake, others might make it too. She never implied it was a conspiracy of any kind, she just urged people to check the selections over before submitting to avoid a mistake.
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Spadecaller1 year ago
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I have noticed that most neocons (like 4thchance) use the same sick thinking; they like to blame the victims of crime and corruption for the crime itself to free themselves from taking any responsibility for their lack of concern for their fellow Americans. A sad lot, for sure.
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donald511 year ago
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Yes, it is ridiculous that an American would call someone losing their vote "ridiculous" - how Un-American of you! But, typically repug of you, the party of terrorism through torture, eavesopping w/o a warrant, Gitmo and preemptive war for lies!
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william-sire1 year ago
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Yes I am a "reluctant" McCain supporter, as if my avatar wasn't a dead give away. The problem with this "fair play" is that it was so predictable. first the fictitious voter registrations now this idiotic story. In case Obama doesn't win he is setting what ever is necessary to distract america into another supreme battle with hopes for him to come out after winner, post the election rresults.
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Lazlol1 year ago
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I hope you guys aren't too disillusioned with the polls that are in Obama's favor. In reality, I have been making calls for the past week and the majority of the people I have talked to are either voting for McCain or are leaning McCain. There haven't been a lot of Obama supporters. This just makes me wonder about the polls.
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Candida1 year ago
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Lazlol: "I have been making calls for the past week and the majority of the people I have talked to are either voting for McCain or are leaning McCain."
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What you are saying may be true but still not reflect the truth. What kind of responses you get depends to a large extent on whom you call and to a smaller extent on what kinds of questions you ask. Were you taking a random sample of registered or likely voters? (BTW, random doesn't mean haphazard.)
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truthiness1 year ago
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with 2 days and 2 hours to go gallup has Obama up 52 to 41 among all registered voters and 52 to 42 among likely voters.
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say what you want about ACORN but mickey mouse isn't responding to gallup polls.
no one has ever come back from a double digit deficit in the polls at this point in the election.
of course a black man has never asked to be put in charge of all the guns and money before either.
so we shall see.
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Lazlol1 year ago
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That's just one poll. Zogby has McCain up by one point and Rasmussen has Obama up by five. So McCain wouldn't be coming back from a double digit deficit. And he's gaining momentum. So it is possible that McCain could pull off a victory.
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Also, McCain is within four points of Obama in Pennsylvania, according to Rasmussen. McCain just might pull it off. -
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