Voting With Emotion Rather Than Intellect »
Posted By Nixie 1 year ago in News
Ask a person why he/she is voting for Barack Obama and you will inevitably hear a response that begins with, “ Because I feel…” It actually made me sick listening to Sean Hannity’s "Man on the Street " radio segment last night. He asked a number of random (mostly college-aged) people who they were voting for and why. Everyone I heard said Obama. Every reason they gave was a ridiculous reason to vote for a candidate.
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Nixie1 year ago
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"Some of the greatest leaders the United States has ever known were terrible, completely uninspiring speakers. Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln are just two that would fall into that category. Yet, according to many Obama-supporters, Obama’s ability to inspire and his talk of hope and change seems to be his biggest qualification for being our next president. What about experience? What about leadership ability? What about fundamental, American principle?"
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But he's such a great orator!!! He says nothing, but he does it so nicely!!!-
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sinophil491 year ago
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Nixie - If you think about the last election of Bush, his entire campaign was built on the emotions of fear and paranoia. Fear of WMD's, fear of terrorism, fear of infiltrators into our society, fear of Muslims in general. The Republicans portrayed themselves as the only politicians who could defeat the forces of terrorism.
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McCain, too has played on fear, though not as blatantly. He says Obama is not ready to be president. Unspoken is the part where McCain hints that Obama is not ready to take on the terrorists.
McCain and Palin keep alluding to an association of Obama with Jeremiah Wright and to Bill Ayers. Again, there is a play to fear Obama because he may secretly be a Muslim, or a radical leftist and adopt Black, radical policies guided by Ayers and by Wright. Then there is the charge of Obama being a socialist or communist, that he will take away wealth and transfer it to the poor. The poor are just a faceless mass of money-thirsty zombies who will suck up all that cash and turn normal white folks into poor folks.
Of course there is a great deal of emotion in any election. Who isn't afraid of losing your house or becoming more dependent on oil from Muslim countries?
But think about it. The emotion that Obama inspires most is hope. Maybe an undefined, incoherent hope for many of the poor and those who have lost their homes. Maybe they can not clearly verbalize what they are hoping for. But isn't hope a better emotion to evoke to inspire a vote instead of fear?
I myself have read the policies of both candidates about health care, tax plans, foreign policies, military plans for Iraq and Afghanistan. I have listened to all 4 national debates.
I have watched the demeanor and behavior of the 3 men and one woman thru the months of campaigning and their responses to the mortgage and credit collapse.
I have watched the anger and racism that McCain and Palin arouse. I have watched the young folks of our country become inspired by Obama and how they now rouse themselves to participate in the glorious responsibility of voting
Obama clearly is the better candidate for this historical juncture and for this generation.
Please read both websites about all their policies and a variety of editorial analyses and opinions of both candidates. Obama does say a lot of substantive matter. You must educate yourself on both sides. I have. -
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obiefrommuskogee1 year ago
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mesodude1 year ago
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--But Nixie, how could your conscience even allow you to press the send button to post a story on voter integrity when it was mere months ago that you said:
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"Sorry, I will stay home if my options are Hillary vs. McCain. If we are going to have a liberal president, then I want the Democratic party to get the blame when things get screwed up."
--?? I've never been more disappointed in you than now, Nixie. How could you? ;-(
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jovial1 year ago
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Emotions are better than outright ignorance. See a story here on some "McCain" supporters.
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UnusualSuspect1 year ago
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Nixie....
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Yes, Obama is a good speaker, debater and leader...no doubt about it...
And Bush...an excellent example of neither...(1/20/09...End of an Error)
And while it's Ok to be a great leader and a terrible speaker, why not go with a candidate who does both well? Vote for Obama if you want both...
Obama/Biden 08!
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Klarissa1 year ago
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year ago
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Actually Lincoln is said to have been one of the greatest orators the nation has ever produced.
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Jefferson's brilliant oratories leading up to the establishment of this nation can not be denied.
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sinophil491 year ago
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McCain backed Bush on abandonig Afghanistan and invading Iraq. McCain has consistently voted against funding for green energy research. He decided to launch all these negative attack ads. He precipitously decided to suspend his campaign and fly to Washington whenn all the experts and the senators already working on the financial collapse told him not to come. He became more of a distraction than a help. McCain decided precipitously to pick Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin is probably the most unprepared VP candidate in the history of our Republic.
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These are not the decisions of a wise, confident man. These are the decisions of a desperate politician anxious to create the illusion of action when in fact, these were just an exhibition of showmanship and political grandstanding.
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Natureboy1 year ago
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"That is because words are easy to come by.Experience and the ability to make wise decisions are what really matter."
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Right. Iffn' you go by words, which are the symbols by which we communicate and convey meaning, Obama is the clear winner. But we should ignore words; McCain is older, and so we can hope wiser, and more experienced. So McCain is the clear winner. Even if he proposed to nuke Milwaukee, those would just be words.
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Klarissa1 year ago
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It is a follow the money campaign.
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People voting for Obama think that they are going to have more money in their pockets because they believe his promises.
Hope doesn't bring money into the treasury.
He has so many programs, it will be interesting if he does what is good for the country or does a payback to his lobbyist advisors.-
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mesodude1 year ago
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"People voting for Obama think that they are going to have more money in their pockets because they believe his promises."
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--Klarissa, not everyone is obsessed with money and preoccupied with tax cuts. You shouldn't assume that everyone thinks like a con. ;-( -
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Tangent0011 year ago
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A tax cut would be nice, but I'm doing well enough for myself and my sons without one. Obama is not 'buying' my vote with the promise of a tax cut, I just like his policies regarding energy, healthcare, foreign policy, the environment, etc.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year ago
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John McCain has no less than 177 lobbyists working on his campaign, including many of his top advisors. McCain’s own campaign manager continued to receive money from Freddie Mac until August 2008.
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The vast majority of Obama's funding has come fro individuals such as myself who send what they can in small amounts. I for instance have sent 50.00 whenever I could.
I love the idea that it is citizens who "own" the campaign - not corporate oligarchs.
Barack is a blow against the intolerant election-stealing xenophobes!
He's the right man for this country at this point in time!
Everytime I read a cockamamie submission from a far right wingnut I get out my checkbook and write the Obama camp another check.
I'm signing one right now!
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rosecityfriend1 year ago
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Maybe we should hold hands in a big circle and sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony." Oh wait, that was selling Coke. They're selling Obama here. "We are the world, we are the children." Oops, wrong cause. "Wahoo doray, wahoo doray, welcome Christmas, bring your light." oops, that's the Who's in Whoville. Well, sing, but please folks, if you're a grown-up, don't vote for someone whose main qualification is to "inspire."
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Wolfie20071 year ago
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rosecityfriend1 year ago
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Wolfie, yes, he's already training Obamabot children to sing it to their new Savior. Sad, we used to sing to our country, not to the leaders of our country. As far as the coke part, have you wondered what is in his medical records he is trying to hide?
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UpholdOurConsitution1 year ago
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Rose, Wolfie, K9, Klarissa & GLee... I am neither extreme left nor right, but if I had to choose, I would move as far away from you all as possible. Re-read your posts... you sound like a bunch of psychos sputtering out ridiculous nonsense and assumptions.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, there's not one good choice in this election. Picking what you perceive is the better choice does nothing but perpetuate the problem. NEITHER candidate is fit for the Presidency and everyone knows it. Then again, neither was GW or Clinton. The majority of politcians in Washington today should be thrown out! In fact, if you think about it, when was the last GREAT President?
I'm fairly young (which automatically means I'm an idiot to the extreme right), so I can't say I even remember one. Between Bush Sr., Clinton and GW, it's laughable! Well, all I can say is hopefully Obama is going to bring the kind of change people think he's going to be bringing. We'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
It will then be VERY interesting to see how each side responds. It's doubtful that you extremist cons will acknowledge your error, if it turns out that way. The hardest thing for most people to do is admit they were wrong. Same thing goes on the opposite end of the partisan scale. The mark of an advanced, intelligent being is their capability to realize their own faults and to adapt accordingly. (JMHO)
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corl641 year ago
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Do you remember this from a few months back? Spinward wrote this.
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ISITJUSTME1 year ago
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All I'm going to say is this, three of the greatest presidents of the 20th century were democrats. FDR, JFK and Clinton. We have already seen the worst president of the 21st century, so why no go with hope and Intellect. Vote: OBAMA/BIDEN
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chevydog1 year ago
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Just to add some semblance pf balance--IMHO FDR was great--he held the country together even when his progressive policies didn't really work. Took WWII to really end the Depression. JFK was middling to above--the above was due to how he motivated people, not so much as because of what he actually accomplished. Clinton -- middling at best. A great politician in the perjorative sense. Can't believe that you don't include Teddy Roosevelt as one of the best of the 20th century.
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if you want to play the party game, Lyndon Johnson gives Nixon a good run for the worst of the 20th century. No matter what his intentions were with the Great Society, he remains the only president we've rejected in the middle of a war. His decision to try to fund his domestic program and VietNam at the same time was almost singularly irresponsible; it set the stage for the whole inflationary spiral of the 1970's. -
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epiphannyy1 year ago
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Articles like this are such trash.....the same thing could be said for the vast majority of McCain/Palin voters...especially the wagon jumpers who support Palin. They like her because she makes them "feel" comfortable that someone "like them" is running for office. Just like those who love Joe the Plumber...he makes them "feel" important because he's "just like them". People like Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber make people "feel" good because they are proof positive that even morons have a chance at celebrity in this great country of ours.
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But I'll tell you....I have solid reasons why I voted for Obama, and NONE of them have anything to do with how he makes me "feel"..just like I'm not voting against McCain/Palin because of how they make me "feel" either. Why did Obama get my vote? I'm wagering its for the same reason damn near every other THINKING American supports him.....he's got a measurable IQ and, when tested (already with the financial crisis) he PASSED by not losing his head and flying off the handle. He's proven to have the judgment necessary to lead us through these difficult times (from being right on Iraq to commonsense approaches to what ails us most today) and his opponent has proven the opposite (from his hither, thither, and yon policy positions throughout his entire campaign to his choice to appoint an unvetted "vagina" as his VP as soon as the "vagina" running on the democrat side was defeated - like ANYONE with a "vagina" would replace Hilary Clinton and garner the female vote, proving how little he thinks of every woman/vagina out there).
For me, there is no comparison between the two candidates. One who thinks and one who has yet to prove the capability of thinking. And all the right-wing slime machine publications won't change the fact that MY reason for voting Obama is shared by the vast majority. Claims to the contrary only prove the desperation of the losing right has reached panic mode.-
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cleare1 year ago
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i'm with you epip. when i saw the title of the article, i assumed it was talking about republicons, who are all about emotion over logic. this thread is an obvious example.
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pboccuti1 year ago
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Excellent post. You hit the nail on the head. Republicans never use "logic". If they did, then George W. Bush would have never had a chance at the Office of the President.
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There is not one "logical" ad from the Republican Party. All of their ads are on how horrible the country would be if Obama is President. They never say anything about how well-off the country would be if McCain is President. The reason is because the Republicans know deep down inside that Obama is a much better choice for the Country then McCain. McCain is only a better choice for the Republicans. McCain's "Country First" mantra is such a pathetic lie.
If Repblicans had any logic McCain would have been the GOP nominee in 2000 not Bush. But we all know that Republicans never use logic.
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djn3nunez31 year ago
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Yeah right, don't use emotion unless it fear and smear. Hannity is the master of fear and smear. Too bad they were all geared up to smear Mrs. Clinton and had to change in the middle of the primaries to the "Stop Obama Express". The only thing worse than Hannity are the Hannity Kool-Aid drinkers out there surviving on hate and fear.
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smpjr1 year ago
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Anybody consider that if you rersearch the history of the great Depression 40% may lose their jobs with Obama.The lesson you should learn so that you won't repeat the same mistake is that the Depression started with a recession but President Hoover raised taxes on the rich and it turned to depression which took a long time to bounce back.PLEASE CONSIDER THIS PROBABILITY because we are in the same situation now with Obama,Pelosi and Reid ready to increase all taxes starting with rich and trickling down to the middle class.
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pboccuti1 year ago
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Oh it took a World War for the depression to end. Let me fill you in on a little secret. It took a World War to start the depression. Yeah imagine that. If Germany paid back all of the money, to France, England and the U.S., it was supposed to after WWI then the US.. never would have went into a depression.
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Lets see we have an unjust war costing us $10 Billion a month for 5 years. Lets add that up. $10 Billion X 12 X 5 = $600 Billion dollars. How much was that bailout? Around $750 Billion. Do you see my point. When you needlessly spend money on a stupid manufactured war, Iraq, then you don't have any funds left to use where and when it is needed.
Let me make it easier for you to understand. If you have a $100 a month and you spend $98 food a month then you are only left with $2 to spend on everything else you need, like a mortgage/rent, utilities and such..
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Painesright1 year ago
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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas - Socialist Party of America presidential candidate
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antibrainwasher1 year ago
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Isn't it tiring to hear this nonstop smearing crap from the trailer trash republican shills about socialism, when the morons have never been out of their trailer park.
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Joe the Scab plumber is your hero, and then you moron pack of barking hyenas cast your stones, somehow socialism is the new mantra, it used to be just screaming witch was enough to have a good burning, or Nig....was enough for you filthy lying scum republicans to have a good lynching.
Homeschooled idiots screaming socialsim. No wonder the money and intelligence has pulled out of the republimoron party. -
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antibrainwasher1 year ago
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Yeah, you'd rather vote for the senile son of a son of a military man, 3 generations on the government dole, not a dollar earned in three generations of warmondering not coming from working mans taxes.
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You'd rather hand the country over to a senile old man, who would after he overdoses on viagra trying to keep it up for his 2nd wife, who never worked a day in her priveledged hundred million dollar live,
and you'd rather hand the country over to an evangelical creationist book burning hick from moosefart Alaska, a complete uneducated moron.
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Klarissa1 year ago
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a socialist policy is abhorrent to the British ideas of freedom.
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Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely.
No socialist system can be established without a political police. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.
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cleare1 year ago
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wow...some of you are so scared of obama, you're practically wetting your pants... and making outrageously dire predictions.
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gestapo??? get real!
we'll all be better off with obama. and those of you who refuse to believe it can just go ahead and develop the ulcers all that bile will create.-
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Wolfie20071 year ago
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No, cleare, nobody has wet their pants unless it's you and the dire predictions are results of what has come out of Obama's mouth.
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Very, very few will be better off under Obama. It's really pitiful how uninformed you are but this time next year if Obama has been elected you are going to be very sad.
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theboltgal1 year ago
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epiphannyy-you are such an idiot! I am surpised that you have enough intellect to spell the word vagina. Talk about a sexist pig, the only reason why you are voting for Obama because he is part African American and male. Do yourself and the world a favor and stick to watching t.v. or play with your blow up doll girlfriend. Stay off the internet because it may stress the few brain cells you have left
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paramale1 year ago
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WHERE HAS THIS BLOGGER BEEN FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS. If he's been awake during any of that period he would be so anxious to vote for Barack that he would be running to the polls. I don't "feel" this, I "KNOW" that with Barack we will get national healthcare and start pulling this nation out of the Bush/McCain gutter where its wallowed for so long.
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cleare1 year ago
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Bush/McCain gutter!!! yes, only push it back another 20 years. what we are witnessing is the final death knell of the republican "revolution" imposed on us by reagan.
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i can't wait for the end of regressive politics, trickle down economics and theologically based public policy.
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Patience1 year ago
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Why aren't any of McCain's military buddies supporting him?
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They Are!
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Patience1 year ago
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Oh and another!
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"America's most decorated hero on John McCain"
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willottica1 year ago
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Was that a total of 2? I didn't follow the links, because I don't particularly care for youtube as a source (and can't get it at work), but it looks like you found 2 military supporting McCain. That's quite impressive, you must have a lot of patience.
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Wolfie20071 year ago
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FTA
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I’ll quit before you get too depressed. Barack Obama and fellow liberals are successfully converting human emotion into political gain. The truth is, they are not champions for the little guy; they are hypocrites. They stand for adversity but condemn anyone who disagrees with them. (Ever heard of the Fairness Doctrine?) They cry out against the death penalty but support abortion. (At least the guy on death row has been convicted of a crime.) They say Republicans are evil and don’t care about the middle class, but it’s them who want to raise your taxes and continue to block relief at the gas pumps by not drilling our own oil.-
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cmm123051 year ago
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cleare
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wow...some of you are so scared of obama, you're practically wetting your pants... and making outrageously dire predictions.
gestapo??? get real!
we'll all be better off with obama. and those of you who refuse to believe it can just go ahead and develop the ulcers all that bile will create.
I AGREE WITH YOU CLEARE...what these people represent is ignorance at it's finest. They have been brainwashed by the McPalinites and instead of researching and comparing they just swallowed the bait whole...YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR WHOMEVER YOU CHOOSE JUST GET OUT AND VOTE!
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antibrainwasher1 year ago
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Isn't it obvious that McCain rallies are just a white supremacist gathering? There are no black faces, brown faces, only old white angry scared morons and their homeschooled evangelical inbred children.
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The GOP is doomed, the only ones left are the morons too stupid to leave a burning ship, even the rats have swam for shore, as soon as the mooseskinner Barbie was invited on board.-
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DropkickaLib1 year ago
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Not true. There is a growing number of Black and minority Republicans. The Obama Dems, for their part, have demonstrated a level of woman hating mysoginy unparalleled in American politics. The DEMS are doomed, at least the economically successful ones and there are a couple. Thanks for making my point by attacking Governor Palin in the typical crowd following Obamanite manner!
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nickknight741 year ago
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Jefferson & Lincoln were NOT uninspiring speakers. As for voting with emotion any one with Logic can see why the Republicans must go. Their present policies began with Reagan who followed the Calvin Coolidge dogma of never allowing the government to regulate business. Those policies brought us the Savings & Loan Crisis of the '80's (Subprime's Little Brother) and the real estate crash and rescession of 1990. They also brought us leveraged buy-outs, junk bonds, Michael Milkin, Charles Keating Carl Icahn, Frank Lorenzo and other corporate thugs of the '80's. We had some respite under Clinton who was not perfect. After the 94 elections, he "republicanized" himself to keep power, even parroting some of their slogans. He continued some Reaganite policies like signing the repeal of Glass-Stiegel and authorizing Derivatives. Then came Dubya. These policies bring us to where we are today. It became clear to me after the S debacle in 1989, the Republicans were liars on everything and just no damn good. The Republican ideology belongs on the Ash-heap of history. Enough! Throw all of those bums out!!
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nickknight741 year ago
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Why the Republicans are REVERSE ROBIN HOODS: they steal from the poor to give the rich! I also have a news flash for the morons who keep crying "those liberals...": THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH LIBERALS as long as they do not reach the point of the extremists of the late 1960's-early 1970's! Guess also what, Right Wing Nutjobs: (1) Crying "liberals" just will not work this time nor will any of your usual dirty tricks; and (2) All you Right Wing Nutjobs and Corporate Thugs better have your day cause after November 4th, YOU'RE THROUGH IN THIS COUNTRY!!!
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