Exit Polls Show Huge Increase in Incomes Since '04, Will Media Care? »
Posted By FSU92grad 1 year ago in NewsFor years, and certainly throughout this campaign, the media contention has been that only the rich have done well since Bush was elected, and that his economic policies did nothing for lower and middle income wage earners.
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FSU92grad1 year ago
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In fact, the percentage of poor voters showed a huge decrease since 2004, while the percentage of folks making over $200,000 doubled.
Yes, doubled.
Here are the particulars:
In 2004, 8 percent of the electorate earned $15k or less; that dropped to 6 percent in 2008, a 25 percent decline
In 2004, 15 percent made between $15k-$30K; that dropped to 12 percent in 2008, a 20 percent decline
In 2004, 23 percent made $30k or less; that dropped to 18 percent in 2008, a 22 percent decline
In 2004, 11 percent made $100k-$150k; that rose to 14 percent in 2008, a 27 percent increase
In 2004, 4 percent made $150k-$200k; that rose to 6 percent in 2008, a 50 percent increase
In 2004, 3 percent made $200k or more; that rose to 6 percent in 2008, a 100 percent increase
In 2004, 18 percent made $100k or more; that rose to 26 percent in 2008, a 44 percent increase.
Add it all up, and the electorate, when viewed strictly from an income perspective, did awfully well the past four years.
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Aidenag1 year ago
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Those figures you listed, mean nothing when you don't include inflation into the equation...
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After all, that is how our economy works, income goes up and up and prices of things go up and up each and every year.. The problem is, and especially in relation to this article and your math here, is that Income is not going up enough to match Inflation....
So the $ earned now, while it may be more than in 2004, does not buy as much as it did in 2004... Just look at gas, or bread, or milk, or eggs... -
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sinophil491 year ago
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FSU - Come on. That's just a bunch of garbage from this conservative publication. I went straight to the US Census Bureau statistics. This is totally unbiased. If anthing, since it is a government bureau whose boss is George Bush, the only charge you can possibly level at the Census Bureau is a bias for Bush.
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Well, they report that the poverty level at the end of George WH Bush's term in 1992 was 15.7%. Under Clinton, the poverty rate immediately started dropping to a low of 11.3% at the end of 2000.
When Bush took over in 2001, the poverty rate immediately rose and has remained more or less stable at between 12.7% to 12.5%. It was 12.6% in 2006 and 12.5% in 2007.
But the number of population in poverty increased from 36.5 million in 2006 to 37.3 million in 2007.
Poverty statistics are always one year late. So the statistics for 2008 will be released in August, 2009.
Now let's look at home foreclosures. From Aug, 2007 to Aug, 2008, 851,000 homes were lost to foreclosure.
In Sept, 2008 alone, 256,968 homeowners were given notice of threatened foreclosure. The number of foreclosures is not know yet. It will be mitigated by some states, like California, passing laws prohibiting banks from foreclosing within 30 days of the notice.
So your fancy statistics are bogus and totally out of touch with the suffering of thousands to millions of people and homeowners that are suffering tremendously under Bush.
Shame on you for playing politics on the backs of these suffering individuals. Look at the real statistics from the Census Bureau, not some Mickey Mouse neocon outfit like this online newsbusters.org that is blatantly partisan. -
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hyperbola1 year ago
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One would have to be awfully stupid to fall for this kind of article. Remember as a start that NewsBusters has regularly been caught out constructing phony propaganda.
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Then, keep in mind that an exit poll which is answered ONLY by those who choose to reply represents a skewed sample of Americans. In fact, since REAL economic data is widely available from reputable economic sources, NewsBusters is clearly only interested in publishing propaganda. FSU is apparently interested in propagating such propaganda for "faith-based" obstinacy.
Here are some more reliable sources:
Human Poverty Index
The United Nations Development Programme, uses the human poverty index in order to assess the development with regards to poverty among OECD countries. The index takes the likelihood of a child not surviving to age 60, functional illiteracy rate, long-term unemployment and the population living on less than 50% of the median national income into account. While the United States has one of the second lowest long-term unemployment rates in the developed world, it has the highest percentage of children who are not likely to live to age 60 and persons living on less than 50% of the national median income and the third highest percentage of adults lacking functional literacy skills.....
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Dave591 year ago
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I'm sure that's a real comfort to all of those people who have lost their jobs. I saw on the news this morning we have the highest claim rate for unemployment in 25 years. As to these supposed facts having come out in the media, that is not much of a surprise. I afraid that people are tired of certain parts of the right trying doctor results to make them show a different set of "facts" than what are actually true. I would guess the days of telling a lie until everyone believes it are going away. And wheather people like you realize it or not the Republican Party is going to have to change along with the rest of this country or no longer be a viable option. The right wing of the Republican party had as much or more to with Barak Obama winning the election as the media. People are tired of the Rovian attack dog style of politics. John McCain actually had a chance of getting my vote until his campaign went the direction that it did. It put myself and a lot of other moderate voters off. I feel the same way about the far left nut bars. As long as extermism rules this country we will see no progress. My guess is moderation is going to be the key for both the far left and right or they will be marginalized and ignored going into the future. Blame the media all you want but stop and think for just a moment that people like you also pushed much of the movement that eventually went against John McCain.
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Charlson1 year ago
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"...data suggest that wealth is concentrated in the hands of a small number of families. The wealthiest 1 percent of families owns roughly 34.3% of the nation's net worth, the top 10% of families owns over 71%, and the bottom 40% of the population owns way less than 1%."
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"The distribution of wealth is much more unequal than the distribution of income, especially when focussing on the bottom 60% of all households. The bottom 60% of households possess only 4% of the nation's wealth while it earns 26.8% of all income."
If the US population is represented along the length of the football field, arranged in order of income.
Median US family income (the family at the 50 yard line) is ~$40,000 (a stack of $100 bills 1.6 inches high.)
--The family on the 5 yard line earns about $100,000 per year, a stack of $100 bills about 4 inches high.
--At the 1 yard line the income is about $300,000, a stack of $100 bills about a foot high.
--The curve reaches $1 million (a 40 inch high stack of $100 bills) one foot from the goal line.
--From there it keeps going up...it goes up 30 miles on this scale!
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FSU92grad1 year ago
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pc251 year ago
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the Dems finally beat George W except he was not running this time...kind of a hallow victory beating someone who was not running.....I guess three times the charm as they say......did anyone catch Bob Beckel on Fox last evening trying to lower the bar on the expectations of an Obama Presidency. Now mind you, this was before McCain's concession speech but it was becoming apparent of how the evening would break for Obama. Beckel basically said that the bar had been set so high for an Obama Presidency that he couldn't possible deliver on everything.........way to go Bob, finally a tacit admission from you that all of Obama's promises and the Democrat talking points just a load of BS. Ah at least an admission of the con job that was pulled on the American voting public.....don't expect much because in reality you are not getting much......Start the spin now......I guess that woman will soon come to the realization that her mortgage and gas will not be paid for.......LOL
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y_soitenly1 year ago
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The media and "Propeller" put Obama in office. Propeller ran his Ad 24/7 for months. The day before the election, was the first time ever that McCain's picture was actually placed next to Obama in the Ad space, in the right-hand column, of this place.
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rosecityfriend1 year ago
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Yep, this was an "historic" election -- the USA has just elected the most underqualified candidate in history because he made people FEEL good. This came after a war and economic downturns made the party in power unpopular, massive propaganda by a supposedly neutral media, and unbridled spending by a candidate who refused public campaign money and its accompanying rules. Peoplewho voted for Obama may have had their hearts in the right place, but they behaved like cultists who left their brains at home. Anyone opposed was cast as racist, while people who supported him solely on the basis of race were praised. sorry, I don't feel like celebrating.
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jovial1 year ago
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Who really cares what you think. You've been consistently wrong. How's it feel to be a black man that refused to take part in one of the most momentous events in history for Black Americans and for all Americans and people of the whole world. Maybe I'm being mean, but you consistently befriended the foes of Obama throughtout this whole elction process. Whilst your friends called him a muslim/alien/terrorist/american-hating/socialist. You may not have participated directly, but you propped their stories.
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Will13131 year ago
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It's no wonder some are still backing and defending Bush / McCain / Palin...
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they have the same mental level... and this is from FOX NEWS...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWZHTJsR4Bc
Palin is a DOLT.. plain and simple a DOLT.. her kid isn't the only one in family that is mentally deficient ..-
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Charlson1 year ago
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Palin didn't know Africa was a continent? Couldn't name the countries in NAFTA? And refused to prep for the Couric interview? The McCain staff guessed most of the questions but she couldn't be bothered to study? She had the kind of educational background that would lead to a self-destruct when called on to make use of it.
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sinophil491 year ago
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will1313 - Eye-opening clip about Palin and her profound ignorance and incompetence.
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Indirectly also an indictment against McCain's judgement and temperament.
I guess when we elected Obama and Biden, God really was blessing America with good fortune.
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pcknowledge1 year ago
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The media didn't determine the votes. We, the American people, voted. All across the board, the majority of people in every ethnic group, voted for Obama. It is a landslide. Obama even won in States traditionally known to be Republican.In the Republican States where Obama lost, he lost by a lesser margin then most Democratic candidates before him. That can not be blamed on the media.
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pcknowledge1 year ago
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"Exit Polls Show Huge Increase in Incomes Since '04, Will Media Care?"
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I don't think the media will care about this story. I live in Cali, but I know from relatives & friends who live in other States that it's the same everywhere. California was very prosperous when Clinton was President. Since Bush became President, especially since Bush's 2nd term in office, thousands of jobs have been lost or outsourced and many businesses closed, and home foreclosures are rampant. Many people have moved away from here to other States, where the cost of living is cheaper. -
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pcknowledge1 year ago
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Some of the comments here are astonishing to me. I voted for Obama, as did everyone in my family. But had McCain been elected I still would have supported him. It appears some people here are making fun of Obama and openly suggesting Obama will fail, which at least to me is very unpatriotic.
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If we don't support our President, and/or if our President fails for any reason, we as a country would suffer the consequences. Can't people put their personal feelings aside for the good of our nation?-
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antibrainwasher1 year ago
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This thread has some ungracious conservatives, however there has been plenty that have, along with McCain, wished Obama well.
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Actually, when I read some of these congratulatory posts from conservatives, it gave me as much hope for this country as when Obama actually won.
Since then, I have felt embarrassed for my own insulting ranting ad hominem attacks, I didn't think Obama would win in the face of the rovian swiftboating I was attacking. Since then, I have decided to impersonate an adult. Blogging is a learning curve.
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antibrainwasher1 year ago
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Does it matter to any of you angry people who are yelling about left wing media, that 100% of all american media is corporate owned, and 100% owned for profit, and 100% conservative board controlled?
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NBC / General Electric/ Universal Studios. conservative corporate controlled, for profit
CBS / Westinghouse Corp conservative corporporate board controlled for profit.
News corp, largest media empire in the world, owned by the far right wing Rupurt Murdock, who invented tabloidism, owner of the Weekly Standard and WSJ. Far, far right wing.
ABC/ Disney....held and owned by a banking Cabal in Israel. Massive corporate structure, multi tiered conservative board controlled for profit.
Time Warner/ AOL/ Netscape/ Propeller. Conservative corporate controlled massive media for profit board controlled empire, cable tv programming and news.
Sinclair Media, Hard, hard right wing media empire controlling local broadcasts in both radio, newspapers, TV. Very religious, very conservative, owned by a billionaire republican.
99% republican controlled, 99% conservative, 100% board controlled, 100% for profit.
PBS...the chairman of PBS was the former Republican political director appointed by Bush.
You see, when you look at the facts, the house of cards blows away. Most of the anger of these posters comes from Rush or Hannity, who are told exactly what to say by their masters, the owners of the media empires.
Please think. Please try and see the truth. Look it up online, and think for yourselves. Do you think the owners of these media empires want anything but more and more money, however they can make it. Its cut throat competitive business practice. THEY ARE SELLING YOU PROPANDA.
You conservatives are very good at making money, so why can't you follow the money on this topic of the false liberal media bias you keep talking about?
Its as if you have blinders, you can be logical up to a point, then some evangelical ideology based on hatred for objectivism or analysis kicks in, and you start shouting socalist or marxist or some other Mcarthyistic buzz word from the past.
Just think this through, and follow the trail of ownership. Roger Alies, the director of Fox News, look into his background. Read about the ownership of ABC and Eisner -
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antibrainwasher1 year ago
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Conservatives would win if they could keep their financial conservativism and their genius level ability to make money, and shed their moral arrogance.
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Do we really need to convert the world to christianity?
Do we really need to convert the world to darwinian capatilism like we are experiencing right now, casino capitalism?
Do we really need to export democracy, which is only as good as the education level of the populace?
Do conservatives really need the burden of moral arrogance and cowing to the religioius zealots, the herd of fearmongering hatemongering buffalo who stampeed when some rovian trickster spooks them?
The new moral majority is non-religious educated whites, and brown skinned americans. FSU, educated people who can understand the source of your propanda will see through the scare tactic and debunk the liberal media bias superstition and skewed ideological journalism every time.
Its time for conservatives to let go their moral arrogance, and find a way to attract again the intellectuals, like the socially liberal Buckley. -
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mrsvonii1 year ago
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Any of us who have taken a statistics class know how statistics can be manipulated to support either side of an issue and we know it happens all the time. It seems to me that in general our whole society is richer than it was. Even my children who have modest incomes (less than 24K each) have cable tv, internet, computers, new cars and nice clothes. Yet my granddaughter is qualified for free school lunches? Something isn't adding up for me but I just can't figure out who is telling the truth. The one thing I do know, I live like rich people lived when I was a kid and my lifestyle is pretty average I think.
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Tangent0011 year ago
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I've gone backwards as well. While I have consistently received raises, the cost of my medical benefits and co-pays have gone up to a greater degree as have my grocery and energy bills. Thanks goodness the price of gas has gone back down.
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NoWayMan1 year ago
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the stupidity from FSUgrad continues...
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exit polls are in no way scientific.
for example:
in 2004, the exit poll done by Public Policy Polling in North Carolina said that 19% of the electorate was black.
in 2008, according to FOX News exit polling, blacks made up 33% of the electorate in North Carolina.
so, does that mean that the black population in North Carolina has increased by 14% over the last four years?
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NoWayMan1 year ago
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the stupidity from FSUgrad continues...
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exit polls are in no way scientific.
for example:
in 2004, the exit poll done by Public Policy Polling in North Carolina said that 19% of the electorate was black.
in 2008, according to FOX News exit polling, blacks made up 33% of the electorate in North Carolina.
so, does that mean that the black population in North Carolina has increased by 14% over the last four years?
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year ago
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"Think the election results might have been different this year if the electorate was aware of this data?"
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Doubtful. I mean it would have tipped the public off that our elections are fixed as we would have been made aware of exit poll data BEFORE the actual vote.
Carrying things to their logical extent is not a virtue in the Con Culture of Lies and Incompetence.
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dwemm1 year ago
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So the columnist is taking a sample of less than 2/3 of the population (the number voting in this election) and generalizing it to reflect the overall state of incomes? Wouldn't it be more accurate to use tax records or something else that actually measures the whole population?
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Or do conservatives want to jump up and down like monkeys in a rage, throwing feces?
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