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Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 1 month ago in Political NewsAnd you thought she sounded dumb during her Couric interview, or when she got pranked? Nah, this takes the cake.... In the Fox News clip below, Carl Cameron lets the cat out of the bag when it comes to the gaping holes in Sarah Palin's knowledge base.
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Aidenag1 year, 1 month ago
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Tangent0011 year, 1 month ago
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Yes, all of it was put 'off the record' until after the election. Often this sort of thing is a condition of having your reporters part of the press on the plane following the campaign around.
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Sounds like Palin was a real Diva. I mean, who refuses interview prep unless they think their sh!t don't stink?-
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
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Beau, that is an overlooked point, many would prefer to credit McCain's fall and Obama's rise to the collapse of the DOW, but I think it was really the Couric interview that decided which way lots of people were going to vote. McCain's campaign slogan of "Country First" was just not believable when he picked Palin, which was clearly a matter of politics first.
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I work with an older lady who was a big Hillary supporter during my state's caucus and she found the choice of Palin as a Hillary replacement to be insulting. I can't say that she would have voted for McCain if he had chosen differently but his choice of Palin cemented her vote for Obama. -
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Yes, the Charlie Gibson interview was pretty disastrous, but some people were probably willing to give her the benefit of the doubt because that was her first interview. The Karie Couric interview convinced them that they had heard right the first time.
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MotiGui1 year, 1 month ago
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The only thing convincing about the Couric interview is that Couric should be back on the morning show. CBS made a huge mistake in putting her in the place of Schieffer. I abandoned CBS news when she came on board, NBC is my choice now, much more professional, IMHO of course.
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MotiGui1 year, 1 month ago
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If you listen to the report all the way through, you'll notice that it was one of her "aids" that said she said and believed it. The same aid that Palin accused of screwing up her pre-interview texts. The same "aid" also said that Palin didn't know what countries are part of NAFTA. Oh, and btw, I voted for Obama for reasons OTHER than Palin or McCain. Like the McCain campaign aids, these people are OUT OF A JOB now and covering their butts for future employment. It's time to move on gang!!!
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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maj: "Someone inside the campaign has done a great smear job...Hitting someone when they're down is immature and mean."
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Ask the Republicans why they are doing it. My guess is that they have a lot of practice in it, and by now it comes naturally.-
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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They're out of a job, that's why the smear from the inside. They don't want to be associated with the losing camp so they do what they can to alienate themselves on their resume for the next job application. This is nothing new, it happens everywhere, not limited to politics.
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dissent1 year, 1 month ago
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because this woman was running for.......... VICE PRESIDENT!!!!!
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thankfully she lost but she should never ever have got anywhere near this far. there's some crazy talk going round saying she may run in 2012 but if there is an ounce of any intelligence remaining in the republican party she should be banished to the antipedes forever never to be heard from again!-
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Question: Have you ever taken the time to actually read factual accounts on Palin without being influenced by the media trashing, etc. I think you'll find, as I did, a very bright and resourceful individual that "gets things done". She has enemies in Alaska just like every politician has in every state of the union. Did you know that she is the Commander In Chief of the 49th Alaska National Guard that is the ONLY National Guard unit in the U.S. that is on duty 24/7/365? Did you know that the 49th is the first line defense in case of a missile attack from across the Pole and their responsibiliy is to shoot 'em down? Did you know that Palin has a security clearance higher than that of Obama AND Biden? And on and on ...
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 1 month ago
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Well, the election certainly worked out for the best, then, didn't it?
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Will we see her in 4 or 8 years? I have more doubts now than I had previously.
I mean, we don't want someone who apparently "cracked" (Carl Cameron's words) under the pressure of running as a VP to crack under the pressures as a President, do we?-
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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The GOP is in a catatonic state following the botched campaign. So much so that anyone involved in the GOP will say anything about anyone connected, even to the extent of trashing the candidates, Palin included. Like MotiGui mentioned, anything to cover their butts now that they're basically out of a job. Unless you actually hear something she said I wouldn't take too much stock in it, media included .. ESPECIALLY the media !!
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BB641 year, 1 month ago
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I wouldn't say that we were catatonic. We're greatly disappointed. On the good side, we're not in charge. So it will be interesting how the media and Dems explain the greatest decline in the markets after a presidential election. Obama wins the election and the market drops 400 to 500 points in 2 days. Huh, go figure.
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JamesMarcus1 year, 1 month ago
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Under normal circumstances, the markets thrive on certainty and spike right after the election. I expected to happen on Wednesday. The thing is, these are not normal circumstances--the markets have been in a crazed state of volatility for many weeks. I'll be curious to see what happens throughout the rest of the month (I mean, even more curious than I would have been otherwise, which is plenty).
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bill-smith1 year, 1 month ago
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As opposed to the say 2,000 or 3,000 points it's dropped over the past several months. The market is very volatile right now, with or without an election. To ascribe the decline solely to the election of Mr. Obama is a wee bit myopic. Really, in October of 2008 we had the largest singles swings in the market ever. Perhaps we should wait until the President Elect takes office in January before we begin assigning all of the country's economic ills on him alone.
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ADAGUY1 year, 1 month ago
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"Obama wins the election and the market drops 400 to 500 points in 2 days. Huh, go figure."
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All one needs to ask themselves is what was the DJ at 6 months ago? This should fill any questions you have about the markets constant downward spiral. -
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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Out of curiosity BB64, did you happen to note the other news that hit the market this week? The unemployment rate is up and retail sales are down. If you believe that is somehow Obama's fault than I have to conclude that you're drinking the koolade. And I don't mean Jim Jones -- I'm talking Ken Kesey here.
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smithichie1 year, 1 month ago
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Certain members of the GOP, yes, but there is also an element of the GOP that loves her. It remains to be seen which factions will gain control of the GOP, but if folks like Rush Limbaugh have anything to say you can expect Palin will return to the national scene.
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 1 month ago
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The woman is pathologically self centered and a compulsive liar. She was allowed 20-25K for 6 suits and spent over 150,000, inlcuding clothes for Todd.. When asked about it, she said "that's just false.
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It's pretty evident she is a taker, a faker, and a liar. She should be stoned for all her lies-
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Please read the actual account before posting. She did not spend 150,000 and in fact most if not all the wardrobe has been sold and the proceeds went to charity. For almost the last 3 weeks of the campaign she went back to wearing clothes from her favorite consignment store in her home town. So did Todd and the kids. Look at her latest interview with a closeup of the earrings. Those came as a gift from Todd's mother, a Yupik Eskimo. It was the RNC that thrust the wardrobe on her, it wasn't her idea, that's why she felt uncomfortable and went back to her usual rags.
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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If you go to Yahoo.com, on the front page is a video of Palin, and a news clip saying that no one knows where the clothes, jewelry and luggage is that was bought for Palin, and that many of the donors are upset by the bills she ran up, because she was only supposed to be getting a couple of suits, but ended up spending thousands more than she was supposed to, and they don't know what happened to the stuff she bought.
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kobzikov1 year, 1 month ago
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This is yet another example of the elitist liberal media unfairly attacking real conservatives like Sarah Palin who aren't beholden to the special interests that are promoting their erudite agenda of knowing that Africa is a continent and which countries belong to NAFTA.
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FSU92grad1 year, 1 month ago
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So, let me get this straight....when Fox thrashes Palin...Fox is credible...
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But when Fox reports negatively on your boy, Barack (i.e. Associations with Ayers, Wright, ACORN, Reszno, etc.)....Fox is crap...
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kobzikov1 year, 1 month ago
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Didn't you read my post?
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I said FOX is part of the liberal media that's trying to nail Palin. I bet it's because they are trying to prevent her from running for President in 4 years even though she is more then qualified not only to be the future President of US, but also to be a nuclear engineer and a rocket scientist at the same time.
Liberal media like FOX are just afraid that someone who has THAT much intelligence will become the next President of US and they wouldn't be able to suppress her First Amendment rights any longer.
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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I'm surprised that Fox aired this at all, but this little tid bit of information is more telling of the people who worshiped her unconditionally than it was of her. Sarah Palin was full of herself, she thought she had all the answers, had gone farther than her highest expectations, and had probably bullied her way to where she was.. I think she thought that her ability to bully people was going to pay off for her in this election, and she got fooled.
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I haven't heard any definites about Ted Stevens yet, but his seat in the Senate affects everyone in the whole country, not just Alaska.. If he's censured, and Palin seats herself, we are still stuck with this KNOW NOTHING of a woman, who gives intelligent women a bad name. She has set women's chances back 50 years in just a few short months.-
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lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago
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I blame others for giving her a false sense of competency. IMO she's either very naive or...I don't know what.
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I know this sounds mean, but since she's out...we've lost 4 yrs of some really great opportunities for entertainment. I usually don't care for political satire, but the recent weeks....just too funny!!!! especially SNL -
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Neophile1 year, 1 month ago
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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I read that somewhere too Dionys.. McCain didn't like Sarah Palin very much. I think his people pushed her on him because they thought she would draw the Hillary supporters, and it did, for about 15 minutes, until she opened her mouth.. Doggone it, you betcha, wink!
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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He has to do that, after all he either picked her to be his running mate or he allowed his people to pick her.. Then he stuck with her when he saw what a colossal mistake it was.
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Plus we all know he's a dirty old man, and going to get all the freebies he can!
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lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago
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More 'stay the coarse' even if you're wrong! I agree, that is unforgivable.
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I'm positive there were people that were going to vote McCain until Palin came along. I kinda feel bad for her, poor thing thinking she could be VP, and if she thinks she's got a chance in 2012, I really feel sorry for her..-
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't know whether she is planning to run in 2012 but, during the prank where two reporters impersonated Sarkozy, she, herself, expressed the hope that she might become president in 2016.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc
I think she really believes that she is qualified to be the president of the US.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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47% of America voted for this person.
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Almost half the american population voted for this person.
Ronald Reagan ushered in the era of anti-intellectualism and religious superstition as a platform for the republican party, of course they were manipulated by the brains and money, and were reacting to the 60's counter culture, but times have changed, and still the "moral majority" (ignorant backwoods megachurch mal-educated superstitous hate-filled fear-filled morons) are the sleeping giant in american politics.
The pendulum has swung randomly to the left for now. FOR NOW.
These silent moron superstitous creationist endtimers for the baby Jesus have not gone away. Look what happened in California and Arkansas.
The evangelical vote was 85% for Palin/McCain. That voting block is still sitting there, like a herd of buffalo, waiting for someone like Rove to scare them into burning gays or something, or even worse, electing some creationist anti science anti rational freak like Palin.-
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bigG1 year, 1 month ago
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"They are a sleeping giant in American politics for at least 25 years."
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Not necessarily. I am a shade tree scientist. I know you have heard of smart bombs, well I am developing a "dumb" bomb. This bomb will only eliminate people with IQ's of less than 80 (which should cover most of those dimwits.)-
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bigG1 year, 1 month ago
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Not qutie weenie-licker( I know all of you Reps are actually homoeexuals that just won't come out). It;s okay my IQ is clearly higher than yours.
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When you and your ilk decide to debate issues, then talk to me. Until that time., pucker up and blow me.
Oh. and LSU sucks this year.
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BB641 year, 1 month ago
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You're calling those of us with a faith cattle and you guys voted for Obama because preached hope and change sounding like a messiah. By the way you will find most of your charities are paid for by people with a declared faith.
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Tell you what, you're claiming science can prove anything. Duplicate the primordial ooze and bring it to life. Prove to me that you guys can create life from nothing. No more theories, no more dreams. Just do it. Until then don't pick on the faithful.-
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GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago
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BB,
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I find it slightly ironic that the same people that are so vocal about their disbelief in faith, the brainwashing comments, are the same people that have been so rabid in their support and election of a man that professes Christian faith!
Also ironic that any rumor repeated here about Obama has resulted in tirades of name calling and personal insults, yet a RUMOR from a coward unwilling to stand behind their own name and integrity is trumpeted as fact, and used to hammer anyone that doesn't fall in line with Obamas vision.-
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Ratskii1 year, 1 month ago
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GehlLady, I see a mistake in your post. Not all of us (in fact I'd say most of us) on the liberal/left side are completely opposed to the Christian faith. You're making the mistake of clumping everyone that you disagree with into a single bag.
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GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago
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That wasn't my intention, I thought I was clear when I said: "same people that are so vocal about their disbelief in faith"
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The brainwashing comment was in reference to the poster(s) that used that phrase in reference to Christians being brainwashed by religion.
If I offended anyone of faith I apologize. I do find it ironic that those without faith don't see the other edge of that 2 edged sword, is all I was commenting on.
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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Excuse me! I have been very vocal about my religious convictions! Why do you think that all Liberals are atheists? News Flash, we're not! In fact, McCain was the candidate in this election who had no church at all, and never has! Where have you been?
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 1 month ago
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"The evangelical vote was 85% for Palin/McCain. That voting block is still sitting there, like a herd of buffalo, waiting for someone like Rove to scare them into burning gays or something, or even worse, electing some creationist anti science anti rational freak like Palin."
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Scary stuff, for sure. But, I think you can all relax now. This election proved that the religious right are completely impotent. They can bitch and rant and gnash their teeth all they want to, but nobody really has to listen to them anymore. They are a dying breed.
America isn't becoming more WASP like. It isn't becoming whiter, more protestant , more anti-intellectual, and more close minded. The days of having to kowtow to the religious right are over. We gave those morons way more respect than they ever deserved.
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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Huffington Post... has Bill O's reaction...
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"she can be tutored".. what from the 5th grade level....WOW.. I said a long time ago.. SHE'S A DOLT.....
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Yeah really ... Puffington heard it from Cameron who heard from an unknown source from within the botched campaign who turned out to be a disgruntled campaign aid that was admonished by Palin for bumbling some pre-text preparation for an interview.
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GehlLady1 year, 1 month ago
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The only video I've seen is of a reporter repeating rumors attributed to an unnamed source. Is there another video I haven't seen? The one I saw started out with him saying they didn't want her before they even met her, they (aides) wanted someone else.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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Think about this. What if..................
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A BLACK woman who believed in end times creationism and didn't know Africa was a continent was in the presidential ticket.
Would she have garnered the white evangelical vote?????
The republican party is the party with a white working class uneducated base. It won them Reagan, and Bush, and Bush. But, the dems have just tapped into another disenfranchised actual MAJORITY in america, and its not totally white, it a loose colalition of races, and educated whites.
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Bruedaddy1 year, 1 month ago
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really, me too. It is just proof how hateful and FEARFUL these people are.
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McCain made a nasty little face as he held his hands out to stop them.
EVEN THEN he DID NOT say how cheap that behavior is......LAME LAME LAME...
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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Yes, I do think it would have been different had Obama lost. Anytime anyone ever began booing the opposition while Obama spoke at rallies, he would discourage his supporters from doing so by saying something like, "We don't need to do that...we just need to vote." He never let it go as McCain did or nodded encouragingly like Palin did under the same circumstances.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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I was going to say that he didn't encourage distrust and hatred but, he didn't discourage it either. As I started to write it down, I remembered him at his rallies and in his ads asking in a very special tone: "Who is the real Senator Obama?" and I had to change my assessment. He did encourage distrust and hatred.
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Beau78901 year, 1 month ago
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I was thinking about that as I wrote that comment, too. Somehow though, when it reached ugliness at his rallies, he seemed to realize that was not the emotion he wanted to provoke. Though I don't know how he could have missed that that kind of rhetoric would naturally produce fear and hate, I give him slight credit for toning it down when his campaign didn't.
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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McCain was defending her as ready to take over .. all the way to the end... AMERICA FIRST indeed..
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I thought he was the McCain of old during his concession speech.. but he should have told the audience.. many of whom will look to Palin to lead the Republican party back in 2012 that she is a MORON.. a DOLT and he was wrong to pick her..
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Will13131 year, 1 month ago
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i agree but .. McCain is done.. he'll be lucky to retain his senate seat if he wants it in 2010..
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and they need to get Palin out of the way.. ... she's done on the national stage UNLESS Obama is so popular they have no way of beating him in 2012 -- which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY.. . then they roll her out again..
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Sources close to Obama say that he may call on McCain for a position, more than likely in the Senate Foreign Relations club or as an adviser to the Middle East in some fashion. Obama did mention to McCain in the phone call that he wanted his help, just wasn't specific yet.
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nikkibabe1 year, 1 month ago
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Shame on you Republican voters for wasting your valuable vote on this piece of TRASH. The RED states that remained RED are inhabited by worthless pieces of creatures called Americans. I would not call them Americans, I call them all jungle creatures ready to be shipped to some remote desert island.
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I read it. She said she thought South Africa was part of the country of Africa!
On Fox News, that white rat Bill O'reilly reacted to this by saying that she can be tutored. It is not a big thing. So, if they had won the Presidency, this trash would go to a DC school to learn world history and geography?-
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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She needs to be tossed off this venue. Nobody should be allowed to refer to Americans as "trash" freedom of speech notwithstanding. Being at each other's throats defending our choices is one thing but this sorta thing is just plain UN-American as we're supposed to be in this together now.
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Charlson1 year, 1 month ago
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I was joking with her, you fool. You must be a newbie. The republicons on Propeller have been calling me and others unamerican and unpatriotic because we don't agree with their politics and policies for all long time. But if you are not a newbie then where was your indignation, then?
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Neither am I a fool or a newbie (by far). I was speaking TO her through your reply as well as agreeing with some of what you said. My "indignation" is with people that don't seem to realize that the campaign is over and done with and it's time to move on as Americans. There is no more red and blue. And I firmly believe that EVERY poster in a red state took offense as they should have.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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nikkibabe's post was tasteless and offensive, but I'm curious where you draw the line on free speech. What kind of speech should be censored, only that which offends Americans, or all that offend anyone? If you don't like what he/she says, you can express your opinion or you can ignore him/her. Do you want to be the judge of what is allowed and what is not?
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gsmittle1 year, 1 month ago
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"Nobody should be allowed to refer to Americans as "trash" freedom of speech notwithstanding."
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Um... Nope. Banning that single reference is just the top of the slippery slope. As much as I found that phrase offensive, I won't censor someone for saying it.
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Bruedaddy1 year, 1 month ago
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Yeah, I live in a red state too. Unfortunately I have too see Bush's stupid library of lies being built at SMU...A LAW SCHOOL no doubt.
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Looks like he may even buy a house in Dallas, hope so, so when I run into him somewhere about town I can tell him myself what I REALLY think of him.
There is still a LOT of blue in the red states Nikki....-
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Beau78901 year, 1 month ago
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In Chicago there's a statue of flame commemorating the Chicago Fire in front of the fire academy. They built the academy on the site of Mrs. O'Leary's barn.
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Maybe W.'s library at SMU's law school will serve as a similar warning to be vigilant.
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Mutainia1 year, 1 month ago
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It's looking more and more like we dodged a bullet...only to get bit by a mamba. Well, we were apparently screwed no matter what. Atleast we can say we have the first black President in our life time now, and, I must admit, that's pretty damn cool.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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I'm looking forward to see Michelle Obama greeting the Queen of England.
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That will be so cool......5 ft 11 Michelle Obama walking off the helicopter, towering over the little old white queen of England, and curtsying or whatever the freak. What a comedy, I can't wait.
I like the idea of Obama's kids having a bunch of other black kids over for a giant sleepover, running around the white house, knocking over priceless statues and drawing mustashes on all the dead white guys on the walls.-
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gsmittle1 year, 1 month ago
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"I like the idea of Obama's kids having a bunch of other black kids over for a giant sleepover, running around the white house, knocking over priceless statues and drawing mustashes on all the dead white guys on the walls."
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Hee hee. I can just see that! I'm sure I'm not the only one to go to the art museum and envision mustaches and glasses on the paintings. I remember reading about TR's kids bringing a goat into the Oval Office. (I could have the wrong pres, I don't have time right now to look it up.)
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simonsez1 year, 1 month ago
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I suspect the majority of Obama's voters didn't know the correct answer either and they call themselves African Americans. In Harlem, They didn't seem to know that Palin wasn't running with Obama.
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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SIMONSEZ: "Sarah will be back and better prepared ..."
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You sound so confident about that. But GOP leaders may not want her back after her refusal to be a team player. And Palin couldn't even deliver the demographic that she was supposed to deliver as McCain's VP candidate -- Republicans did NOT win the female vote, nor the first-time voters vote, nor the middle-class (those making under $100,000) vote. So much for Palin's appeal to women, the Republican base, and the average "Joe Six-Pack."
LOL.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=61...
"Fox News reports that Palin didn't know Africa was a continent and did not know the member nations of the North American Free Trade Agreement -- the United States, Mexico and Canada. The New York Times reports that McCain aides were outraged when Palin staffers scheduled her to speak with French President Nicholas Sarkozy, a conversation that turned out to be a radio station prank. Newsweek reports that Palin spent far more than the previously reported $150,000 on clothes for herself and her family. Several publications say she irked the McCain campaign by asking to make her own concession speech on election night.
The tension is likely to continue or get worse. Lawyers for the Republican National Committee are heading to Alaska to try to account for all the money that was spent on clothing, jewelry and luggage, according to The New York Times. McCain loyalists are now blasting away at the Alaska governor, who was a favorite of the Republican right during the campaign, but was cited in numerous polls as a reason why many Americans wouldn't vote for the Arizona Republican.
Perhaps the most dangerous allegation for Palin are reports in The New York Times and Newsweek that when she was urged by McCain adviser Nicole Wallace to buy three suits for the Republican convention and three suits for the campaign trail, she went on the now-infamous shopping spree at swank stores like Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus.
A Republican donor who agreed to foot a majority of the expenses was stunned when he received the bill, Newsweek reported. Both the Times and Newsweek report that the budget for the clothing was expected to be between $20,000 and $25,000. Instead, the amount reported by the Republican National Committee was $150,000.
That wasn't the whole tab, however, according to Newsweek. The magazine claims that Palin leaned on some low-level staffers to put thousands of dollars of additional purchases on their credit cards. The national committee and McCain became aware of the extra expenditures, including clothes for husband Todd Palin, when the staffers sought reimbursement, Newsweek reported.
McCain aides had numerous complaints about Palin. She was unwilling or unable to find the time and energy to prep for her disastrous interview with Couric. And when she did study, she astonished her handlers by her unsophisticated views."
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/electio...
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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"Both the Times and Newsweek report that the budget for the clothing was expected to be between $20,000 and $25,000. Instead, the amount reported by the Republican National Committee was $150,000."
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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SIMONSEZ: "Michelle's dress for the Grant Park celebration was over $4000, I'm told."
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Cite your source. I want to see receipts proving this amount, or an admission that you fabricated this number based on ZERO evidence.
Besides, what was appalling about Palin's shopping spree is NOT merely the dollar amount. It's the fact that it violated the very campaign finance laws that HER OWN running mate, John McCain, helped pass!
Spin that.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.ht...
"The Republican National Committee has spent more than $150,000 to clothe and accessorize vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her family. The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.
Macy’s in Minneapolis, another store fortunate enough to be situated in the Twin Cities that hosted last summer’s Republican National Convention, received three separate payments totaling $9,447.71. An additional $4,902.45 was spent in early September at Atelier, a high-class shopping destination for men.
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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Here is Citizens for Responsible Ethics in Washington arguing that Palin's shopping spree was illegal under McCain's own finance laws.
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http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/34820
"Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics, a private watchdog group in Washington, filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission against Palin, the Republican National Committee and several political operatives alleging that the purchase of clothing for Palin and her family violates Federal Election Campaign Act. The law prohibits a candidate for federal office from converting campaign funds to personal use."
http://members.nowpublic.com/world/palin-shopping-...
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(1) IN GENERAL- A contribution or donation described in subsection (a) shall not be converted by any person to personal use.
(2) CONVERSION- For the purposes of paragraph (1), a contribution or donation shall be considered to be converted to personal use if the contribution or amount is used to fulfill any commitment, obligation, or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of the candidate's election campaign or individual's duties as a holder of Federal office, including-
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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And here are members of YOUR OWN REPUBLICAN PARTY slamming Palin for her excessive spending of, not her own money, but rather DONOR MONEY.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14840.ht...
"The Republican National Committee’s $150,000 investment in Sarah Palin’s wardrobe has prompted some teeth gnashing among the party’s big donors about its political sensibility and a feisty debate among campaign finance specialists about its legality."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/165666
"The disclosure that the Republican National Committee spent more than $150,000 on clothing and accessories for vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her family set off recriminations among GOP officials—and, more important, party donors. One top party fundraiser told NEWSWEEK that, ever since the story broke on Politico.com, he was bombarded with calls from Republican donors who were 'furious' that their contributions were used for such purposes. 'This has damaged everybody's credibility,' griped the fundraiser."
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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Unless Palin can attract Latino's and Blacks, she won't be elected. In case you didn't notice, joe the plumber is not the majority any more. The majority is a loose colitiion of educated whites, and brown skinned latinos and african americans.
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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ANTIBRAINERWASHER: "In case you didn't notice, joe the plumber is not the majority any more."
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I agree, except that Sarah Palin failed even at bring in the middle-class, Joe Six-Pack vote.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/electio...
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vor1 year, 1 month ago
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Still amazing that 43% clearly voted to continue "trickle down economics"! These numbers never cease to amaze me. The usual GOP trickery worked, only to a lesser effect than before. Some of the sheep fled the flock but not that many. You also have to account for new voters.
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DenCuddy1 year, 1 month ago
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Hey Simonsez, The election was a blowout, you picked an inane VP candidate who other than being vacuuous was found to abuse her power. Bluster and arrogance, lies and incompetance, claiming God and who is a real american are the things that have doomed your party. While McCain’s speech reminded me of the candidate I truly liked in 2000, the hate speech and smears by republican candidates defined the mandate you saw on tuesday. It’s about time the repubican party grew up, hopefully for the good of the nation, not party first as they have been.
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simonsez1 year, 1 month ago
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She was thrown into a losing cause and had to be the "attack dog" for John. She was unprepared for such attention so quickly, but she will mature and grow and become a player.
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Obama ran an excellent campaign and deserved to win. Now, we will see if he can walk the walk
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BB641 year, 1 month ago
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So what you're saying is that race is all that matters? I don't think running a woman will happen for a while. When you had a credible woman running the NOW ran to the DNC party once again. Questioning if a mother could handle the pressures of being a VP. A woman who not only runs a state, maintains a full family with all of the joys and sorrows of being a parent, she snowmobiles and hunts right along side the men. Proving a woman can do anything a man does, sometimes better. However, NOW, by supporting the all male ticket, clearly stated they feel woman's place is in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. What an insult. Either that or they've become nothing more than a DNC front group.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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If republicans had any brains at all, they'd be running a Latino woman presidential candidate, with a black woman VP candidate, both with PhD's in economics, and both non-religious. I'd vote for that every time, and so would everybody else. I'd turn republican on the spot.
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What people will not vote for anymore, is a creationist white supremist idiot hillbilly folksy moron with the moral arrogance to attack in some endless McCarthyistic swiftboating rant.-
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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antibrainwasher: "If republicans had any brains at all, they'd be running a Latino woman presidential candidate, with a black woman VP candidate, both with PhD's in economics, and both non-religious."
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Sorry to disappoint you, but "non-religious" candidates would not even get off the starting blocks in the US. No non-Christian will be elected in your country anytime soon. During the past two years, I've asked a few reasonable members on Propeller why they would never vote for an atheist. The few times when I've actually got an answer it was something vague about morals and character, but the bottom line is that even many of those who condemn racism and sexism would openly discriminate on the basis of religion.
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Charlson1 year, 1 month ago
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Beware! Speak no ill of the "Ice Queen", she will return and crush all you nay sayers. She will send her pack of pitbulls without their lipstick to nip at the heels of you godless liberals and socialist creeps. Her army of incestuous white trash will roam the countryside winking at everyone they see and shouting "got'cha!" scaring the bejesus out of them. Beware!
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amazed1 year, 1 month ago
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You know, you guys (those who voted for Obama) claim to want those who did not to work with him and respect him and basically, give him a chance. I actually want that also..he is my President and I hope he's successful. I can see that it is more important for the President of our country to be effective than to have the guy of my choice. I realize that if the President fails the entire country fails.
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Now, you guys won. Congratulations. Get over your bitterness -- there is no reason for it YOU WON!
You are unlikely to get the majority of those who were not enamored of Obama on board with him if you continue to gloat and carry on about how evil and stupid all of us who did vote for Obama are. One of the things of the last eight years should have taught us is how ineffective a President can be when he does not have the support of his country.
If Obama has nearly half the country crowing about what a sleazeball he is, harping on his "terrorist ties" and "muslim religion", "racist minister", "PLO buddies", etc., he will, most likely, follow in the steps of Bush with a failed Presidency.
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GWHayduke1 year, 1 month ago
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May we all step back from our ideological preferences and look toward the future and the condition we will leave this country in when we pass on the reigns to our decendents.
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We need to make our decisions pragmatically and not fundamentally.
We need to analyze the role our country plays in global affairs. I'm sure that everyone saw the jubilation throughout the world when Obama was elected to the highest office in the US.
Just like that.....we went from being the most despised country on the planet, to the country that holds the greatest prospect for generating global good-will, prosperity and solutions that will lead to peace.
Real or symbolic we dont yet know......but we do know that we have to act in unison to execute the vision.
Unilateralism and nationalistic extremism has isolated us from some of our staunchest allies and has created new enemies.
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Perhaps inside America there is that kind of euphoria about the world's reaction to Obama. Outside there is relief that the disastrous Bush era is over and determination NOT to let America dictate the world, but rather to demand and obtain a new, multipolar organization of the world. There are serious reasons to doubt whether Obama will be successful with foreign policy, especially given his advisors. We will have to hold his feet to the fire if we really want change.
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A Look Under the Hood of an Obama Administration
Early clues suggest that Barack Obama’s administration will prove unlikely to alter the fundamental political machinery that has led us into war and economic turmoil. Below is a brief summary of Obama’s potential choices for a few key roles in his administration.
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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A New Day in DC? Not So Fast...
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All told, the outlook for a new day in America is poor. The bottom line is this: Barack Obama probably has a good heart, but he is confronting a vast array of institutional forces aimed at preventing him or anyone else in power from doing the right thing. To have any chance of getting the results we want out of his administration, we cannot just sit back and expect him to work his magic. We must organize, agitate, and pursue independent initiatives (like ballot measures) to get what we want (like single-payer healthcare) at the state level. And we must carefully scrutinize Obama’s every move and harass and harangue him relentlessly just as if he were John McCain or George Bush. From the point of view of every American left of center, the principal advantage of Obama over McCain is that it is at least possible that he will listen to us. We cannot let that advantage go to waste.
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cloud151 year, 1 month ago
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We dodged a bullet there huh?
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Seriously though, she is the main reason I just couldn't vote for McCain. Her as a vice president is just flat out ridiculous. The fact the a good amount of Republicans want her to run in 2012 scares me.-
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BushHater1001 year, 1 month ago
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Let me tell you something, The fact that you would vote for a man that supports Bush is a Flat Out Shame. Bush destroyed this Country and Hurt The Global Economy, McCain supported Bush Policies 90% of the time. This means McCain is just like Bush, McCain would only continue to Worsen our Great Depression like conditions. Take the time to read up on what Republicans have done to this Great Country, Nothing but negative things. Bill Clinton had a balanced budget at one point. Bush has increase our Budget to Trillions of dollars. What I am simply saying to the 47% of Americans who voted Republican, You are not helping our Country you are simply contributing to our downfall, by voting for McCain.
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
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Let me tell you something in return. McCain is not Bush just as Gore wasn't Clinton. Oh yeah, my vote belongs to me hot shot and I will spend it on who I think is best for the country at the time of that vote. Once again, you can't be gracious in victory.
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I suggest that you take off your blinders and read up on your own not so innocent party, hater.-
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bigG1 year, 1 month ago
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You want positive - here ya go. I am positive that Palin is an effing idiot. I am also positive that she will eff you party up worse.
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Reagononmics is history. Learn to live with it.
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hyperbola1 year, 1 month ago
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Well Slate, I would guess that this is a reaction to the "collectives" that have operated here recently.
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BEWARE THE ONLINE COLLECTIVE
By Jaron Lanier
Web guru Jaron Lanier worries that, in the world of the Web, individual creativity is being replaced by dangerous groupthink
What's to stop an online mass of anonymous but connected people from suddenly turning into a mean mob, just like masses of people have time and time again in the history of every human culture? It's amazing that details in the design of online software can bring out such varied potentials in human behavior. It's time to think about that power on a moral basis. ....
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
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Hyper, doesn't this site have basically two camps that think as a group? You're correct there is groupthink on the left and groupthink on the right it's very transparent on both sides of the isle. I'm not sure why you think you had to point out something so abundantly clear. Unless of course you were trying to claim that groupthink was a phenomena that only occurs on the side that you don't think like?
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RedstateLib1 year, 1 month ago
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I am proud to say that I do not follow "group think" on any given day I am just as likely to be attacked by those on the left as those on the right. To be honest this election caused me great disappointment in many I thought of as friends on the left here. When I refused to carry the water and spout the talking points when I saw some things that were just plain wrong, I was turned on with a venom. Damn I know how Sarah feels.
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slate1 year, 1 month ago
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I feel your pain, though I take the right leaning view on most topics I've caught heck for some stances I've made on other issues by my camp as well. There were those that weren't happy with my reaction to Obama winning and me being congratulatory afterwards.
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In the end I am my own man. If it seems like I'm foloowing in lock step don't believe it. If I take a stand it's of my own free will and what I feel at the time to be correct or needs to be looked in to.
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BushHater1001 year, 1 month ago
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For all of you Republicans out there_ Do you still feel McCain was a wise choice after the Palin videos were released Palin is obviously Ignorant of Politics and the World in General_ This simply shows what Poor Judgement McCain has not to mention McCains involvement in Keating Five Scandal_ McCain was found to be less involved with Keating than the other senators but was criticised for poor judgement Why would anyone choose a man with this kind of a record_ I guess People in the US are Ignorant just like Sarah Palin
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When Obama turns things around in the next several years Republicans Do not Deserve to share in the Improvements Obama will create_ Before you vote you should take the time to educate yourself and Know What or Who You Are Voting For_
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Poulenc1 year, 1 month ago
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One of the things that Obama's election has meant for me is the opportunity never, never, NEVER to have to look at, listen to, think about or in any way countenance Palin ever again.
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So I object to the posting of this clip (which, I confess, I watched voluntarily) after the fact.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 1 month ago
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I love that it's Cons eating their own. Especially the affirmative action candidate they were so gaga about just days before.
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Kiyanayah1 year, 1 month ago
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BushHater, I take offense to your statement, even though I'm not a Republican. These people have the right to vote for whoever they want. It makes them no less American than you or I. You come off just as ignorant as you accuse them of being.
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This country can not work long term if we do not work together. It is time to stop the petty insults and move the country forward so that we can change it for the better.-
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Bluedragon9121 year, 1 month ago
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My my my.
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A Hail Mary?
Doesn't know Africa was a continent?
Doesn't know the countries of NAFTA?
EPIC FAIL.
This is the type of person we read about in stories about stupid people.
The difference?
Those people weren't running for VP.
Where are all the other cons?
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saneman1 year, 1 month ago
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For all the Progressives out there, BEWARE!! Do not form a partnership with a Republican. I did and I paid for it. Been there, done that. I learned a very steep lesson. They are the biggest back stabbing bunch I have ever met. In addition, when I worked for a Republican law firm, I found out that they will trash the heck out of you if you leave for whatever reason. Truly, very nasty people. That's why I choose not to have any friends here and I am extremely careful in my professional work as to whom I dare associate with.
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RedstateLib1 year, 1 month ago
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I seem to remember an unknown source that claimed Hillary was a lesbian. That Chelsea was not Bills daughter. That Michelle hated whites. Until a source comes forward and says it in front of the camera it could be anyone or no one. I hear it is the Romeny people that McCain hired that they are trying to set Romney up for 2012 and want to make sure Palin is destroyed. So by buying into this crap ypu are helping them run against Obama in 2012. Keep up the good work.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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It is true that some very nasty things were said about Hillary, Chelsea and Michelle, but just because not all nasty things are true, it doesn't mean that none of them are. I don't know for sure whether all the nasty things said about Sarah Palin are true, but I know for sure that she is ignorant and a liar because I've seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears from her own mouth.
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