New Iraq pact rules out US troops past 2011 »
Posted By STONERS 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsThe proposed U.S.-Iraqi security pact removes language authorizing Iraq to ask U.S. soldiers to stay beyond 2011 and bans cross-border attacks from Iraqi soil, according to a copy of the draft obtained Monday by The Associated Press.
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STONERS1 year, 1 month ago
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"The new draft states that U.S. troops must be out of Iraqi cities by June 30 and leave the country entirely by Dec. 31, 2011. The previous draft authorized the Iraqi government to ask U.S. troops to stay beyond that for training and other assistance."
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"But the current draft states simply that "United States forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than Dec. 31, 2011."
"The draft also recognizes the right of each country to remove U.S. troops before that deadline." -
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msheltra1 year, 1 month ago
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Wonderful! Now the insurgents and other scum can vacation until then with this knowledge and reestablish on our leave. Only a president who has not served would think this made sense. Just made office and already he commits massive screw ups. You wanted him-now enjoy the fruit of your idea.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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This is a Bush deal, not an Obama deal. It is the Bush administration that has been negotiating with the Iraqis for months.
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Those insurgents you mention are Iraqis. If the Iraqis want to deal with them, that's their business. It's their country, and their democratically elected government should make the decisions, right? How would you like it if some other country tried to make decisions about things in the US?
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reidgator1 year, 1 month ago
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In a recent NYT article titled “Reactions from Around the World”, the following was shared:
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“In the normally querulous Union of Iraqi Writers club in Baghdad, there was a rare unanimity among the secular, the religious, Shiites, Sunnis and former regime loyalists: While the election of the first black man to the highest office in the United States was admirable, Mr. Obama’s promise to start withdrawing troops from Iraq was a cause for great concern.
At the club’s restaurant and bar, which has survived the wrath of religious extremists over the past few years, Daoud al-Rahmani, a self-styled poet, writer and satirist, gathered at one table with two of his colleagues for an early lunch. They drank beer and nibbled from little bowls filled with marinated fava beans served as hors d’oeuvres.
“There will be chaos if they leave,’’ Mr. Rahmani said. “We are still in disagreement. Sectarianism is ingrained in us now.”
Now what a minute. The media, including the NYT, has been claiming that the Iraqis want us out. (Actually, common sense would tell you that they do not WANT us there, but they also do not want their society to spiral into sectarian conflict.)
Any how, this suggests that what Bush and McCain have been saying is the truth??!! -
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hamptonsisk31 year, 1 month ago
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I must respond to ALL the comments here...i have TWO sons who joined the army to fight for ALL our freedom here and around the world. They are both in Bagdad. Do u really think that ALL of u have read everything about this war and all that we have done. We all have the "freedom of speech" right, but, no one should talk about anything unless they have all the facts first. Watch Obama;s mind change, the more he learns about what we are really doing. PS the trillions of dollars we spend in Iraq will soon be spent in Afa.and Pak. I can't beleive all of u whom fell for that line...BRING OUR TROOPS HOME AND WE SAVE $$$$ FOR THE US. I guess u all miss the next sentence about sending our troops to other locations, which will still cost trillions.....I really thought the US people were smarter then this.....It makes me sad to think my boys are serving for people who don't think about the things that matter....
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bnmusing1 year, 1 month ago
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It is hard for a man with two sons in a 'war' to be objective. I understand that. But there are two great assumptions that you are making:
1) America is God's gift to the Planet and therefore has the right to impose our values upon all others.
2) It is truly more important to save the rest of the world, than to take care of our own country.
Both are in play in our current "foreign wars". I, personally, do not agree with that strategy.
To me, a response to 911 was called for. Our response was weak and erroneos.
First, there was no reckoning on OUR PART as to why the Muslims involved feel the way they feel. Right or Wrong!
JFK predicted 'major problems' from the Mid-East WHEN HE WAS A SENATOR! We did virtually NOTHING to correct that. 911 happened; and we know that President Bush did not 'get it' at all. And John McCain does not 'get it' at all.
The American people have just enough sense to know that we have to have a communicator in the Presidency, not a world dominator! Now - we have just elected one. It is our best shot. The direction of the 'dialogue' must change! -
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bnmusing1 year, 1 month ago
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To hamptonsisk3:
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It is hard for a man with two sons in a 'war' to be objective. I understand that. But there are two great assumptions that you are making:
1) America is God's gift to the Planet and therefore has the right to impose our values upon all others.
2) It is truly more important to save the rest of the world, than to take care of our own country.
Both are in play in our current "foreign wars". I, personally, do not agree with that strategy.
To me, a response to 911 was called for. Our response was weak and erroneos.
First, there was no reckoning on OUR PART as to why the Muslims involved feel the way they feel. Right or Wrong!
JFK predicted 'major problems' from the Mid-East WHEN HE WAS A SENATOR! We did virtually NOTHING to correct that. 911 happened; and we know that President Bush did not 'get it' at all. And John McCain does not 'get it' at all.
The American people have just enough sense to know that we have to have a communicator in the Presidency, not a world dominator! Now - we have just elected one. It is our best shot. The direction of the 'dialogue' must change!
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