The Case Against Lieberman »
Posted By berkeley 7 months, 4 weeks ago in Political NewsCase in point, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who now says, "Joe Lieberman is not some right-wing nutcase...Joe Lieberman is one of the most progressive people ever to come from the state of Connecticut."
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berkeley7 months, 4 weeks ago
the senate dems, as a group, and reid in particular, deserve a different name. low-life hypocrites is one, but our language is lacking in some ways. most common terms that would fit are unfair to the group described. scum, for instance, is a valuable part of the ecosystem. pigs are just mammals. and so on.
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Radiofreeeuropa7 months, 3 weeks ago
I understand Obama wanting to go on record as not holding a grudge about Lieberman campaigning for McCain. I don't believe he should keep his chair. I suspect they simply want him to continue to caucus with democrats so he doesn't go over to the other side. But my thoughts are that Lieberman put the lobbyists for weapons industries and defense contracts ahead of the interests of the people. He did MORE than just campaign for McCain, he contributed to the outrageous lies about Barack and Democrats in general stating he "feared for the country if democrats got a filibuster proof majority..
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What good is he?
No good.
Give him the boot Democrats, on principle he is no ally.
He chairs the dept. responsible for oversight among other things and never once lifted a finger to question the Bush adm.
(In contrast his counterpart in the house, Henry Waxman initiated many investigations).
Let Lieberman run in New England as a republican, it will end his stain on politics once and for all.-
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Spadecaller7 months, 3 weeks ago
Lieberman is an embarrassment more than anything. He has done nothing on his watch concerning the Katrina disaster. The best thing we could do is give him to the Republicans. Then, let him try to get reelected from Connecticut. Good bye and good ridden.
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Jeboba7 months, 3 weeks ago
He was defeated 2 years ago in his primary as a Democrat so he switched to independent and regained his seat. I do believe he's cooked his own goose with his constituents this time though. I don't believe he could get elected on ANY ticket next time.
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The Dems need to throw him out. Ostracize him. Cut him off. He is a dirty rotten snake!
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lfergie8127 months, 3 weeks ago
If Saxby wins in Georgia I think Lieberman will be history. At the moment the Democrats don't want to rock the boat with a 60 seat majority a possibility but if they fall short, I look for the Democrats to use the ax and chop him from the committee. The committee chair would hold Lieberman in line but removing him would push him over to the Republicans which really wouldn't matter if the Democrats ended up with a 57 to 59 seat majority.
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Nobama_20127 months, 3 weeks ago
Or if Coleman's lead is sustained in the recount in Minnesota. Irrelevant either way. Reid and the Obamunistas can count on some GOP votes on a lot of their agenda, and will lose the Blue Dogs on other issues.
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Tcaros7 months, 3 weeks ago
Let the Republicans have him. They'll throw him back.
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slate7 months, 3 weeks ago
Other than sounding like Deputy Dawg,
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I've always admired Joe for putting his country before his 'party'. You know, the same reason the Democrats used to admire McCain, when he used to do the same thing and side with the Democrats on some issues.
Why are those that are Democrats so willing to go down the vengeance road when someone doesn't toe their line? Will this administration be the uniting administration of hope and change or will they simply use their newly won power as vigilantes? -
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Goppy7 months, 3 weeks ago
slate ... let me paraphrase what you just said ...
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"I've always admired Joe for embracing the Neo-Conservative Ideology of Military Expansionism ... even as he remains supportive of other Democratic philosophies."
One might conclude that you believe Joe Lieberman has more 'patriotism' than Democrats who opposed the Iraq war.
It's hardly patriotism to be 'PRO-WAR'. It just means you have aligned yourself with those who believe we should have the right to invade any nation ... any time we want.
Of course ... this was the philosophy of the old Soviet Union under Communism ... and we HATED the commies for that. (All except icono ... icono is a Propeller member who is a former Communist Party Member ... but who now is wandering on Propeller ... countryless.)
For the record ... I DON'T believe Joe Lieberman should be kicked out of the Democratic Party. He still supports Social Justice ... something that is anathema to the Modern Republican party.
He's simply acquired a taste for the Neo-Conservative Ideology ... even as it's been proven to be Morally Vacant and as unsupportable as Communism.
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mmrhe7 months, 3 weeks ago
This is a particularly tricky problem for Obama.
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Afterall, one could argue that Lieberman was simply being bipartisan in his thinking. That he was putting the problems of the country ahead of his party loyalty.
Politicians say things in the heat of a race that they don't really mean.
Obama has already stated that he wants to keep Joe in the Dem caucus.
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lloydm657 months, 3 weeks ago
We know you left wing demagogue's,anybody who has the audacity to put the United States of America First is,wrong headed.We know the love affair you have with third world countries,where the people(not citizens)line up daily with bowl in hand for their daily bread.They don't need ambition,skills,or motivation.The government is their benefactor.They can just lay around,and wait for the nanny state to rob the working stiffs,and then laugh out their a$$e$$.I'm not looking for to it,but I can see it coming to a place where we once lived,and soon to a mere existence
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mmrhe7 months, 3 weeks ago
Your such a douche Lloyd...The same Third World countries your referring to probably had a dictator inserted by our covert services ostensibly to fight "Communists" but more likely to protect "American interests" like oil or bananas.
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If there's poverty because of rampant corruption, is that ok in your book?
Wake up Lloyd! The Good Ol US of A has committed plenty of sins while dunces like you sat in the stands waving your pathetic flags.
Questioning authority is not Anti-American. It's a requirement of Freedom.
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nonparted7 months, 3 weeks ago
miklkit what is the right thing?
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niether party has done the right thing in the past? fact.
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DarkWizard7 months, 3 weeks ago
First off, Lieberman is an Independent and not a Democrat or Republican (his claim). By his actions shall he be known and stumping for McCain speaks volumes. Therefore, either Party can lay claim to him according to the way he "leans." However, I don't see where he can lay claim to either Party and expect anything...period.
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Secondly, there are obviously some other deep-seeded issues going on for Lieberman to speak out against Obama during this campaign. Personally, I believe that Lieberman was scared of loosing his position and power within the Senate if Obama became President.
Thirdly, I believe Lieberman has allegiances to Israel and felt that those interests would be better served under McCain than Obama.
The reason Reid is trying to protect Lieberman’s position is that Lieberman is like a lightning rod right now and is keeping attention off of the senior Democratic leadership that has been so inept to this point and complicit in many of the Bush policies Obama is looking to overturn. In other words, they’re scared that their heads will be on the chopping block sooner than later.
I know some of you think that Pelosi and Reid will be secure now that Obama is President and that they will be essential to getting laws passed through, but Obama has talked about real changes and some of the Democrats in charge have not shown they have the balls to implement such plans.
As I’ve stated before, there will be a power struggle in both Parties as the new guard and old guard jockey for position, and favor, with the new administration. Yes, there is seniority, but with the popularity of Obama’s election, many in the House and Senate will want to show that they are part of the change and not part of the hindrance toward progress. -
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DarkWizard7 months, 3 weeks ago
BTW - I signed the petition to have Lieberman relieved of his chairmanships and sent the link to a slew of my friends and family. I’ve already received responses from some that they have also signed. Joe must go…
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