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Posted By ekklesiawarrior 11 months, 4 weeks ago in ReligionThe Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation has sued Gov. Bill Ritter and the state of Colorado to end its designation of a state- sanctioned official “Day of Prayer,” which took place in 2007 and again on May 1, 2008.
“Gov. Ritter’s proclamations of a Day of Prayer violate the religious- freedom clause of the state constitution by endorsing religion over nonreligion,” alleges the complaint filed Wednesday in Denver District Court. About 70 events were held in the state to commemorate the day, including an event at the state Capitol.
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Dionys11 months, 4 weeks ago
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Not really.
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There's no question here. A day of non-denominational prayer does not violate the establishment clause. Because it's not establishing a state religion or a preference of religion. Unless all those atheists now are going to say that they follow a religion?
One could possibly argue over the word 'prayer,' however as not every tradition calls what they do 'prayer.'
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hamy11 months, 4 weeks ago
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Religion just basically adds rules to faith. You can have faith that God exists and believe in the bible and the stories of Jesus without having to go to church and add rules and regulations to it. Organized religion has become a standard that needs to be looked at. A personal relationship with God doesn't require a place to share it with others or money.
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Jaydee4011 months, 3 weeks ago
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All you say is true but faith is not limited to god, my faith is in mankind.. Sure some people are not good people but my faith tells me as a race people do care about those around them and put in the situation of helping their fellow man they do. As times have gotten harder the numbers of volunteers are higher and that validates my faith in people.
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traveler200011 months, 4 weeks ago
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This is ridiculous and shows non tolerance from the side of those atheists.
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Being raised Catholic, having been educated in Catholic schools (including university), I am, since very long, by choice, a fervent atheist.
However, if I fight the intolerance of a lot of religious people, I should be tolerant my self.
So, what's wrong with a "day of prayer"??
It doesn't say, you HAVE to pray.
It doesn't say to what God you should pray (Yahweh, God the Father, Christ, Mohamed, Poseidon, Venus, Fortuna, Bacchus, some Celtic God, etc ....)
It doesn't even say if your prayer has to be to any God at all: some times I pray my wife to let me ... whatever...(lol)
Pray can also mean just thinking, reflecting about, e.g. your live, other people, the world, injustice ,....
On top of that, the Western world, is, for the greatest part, of Greco - Roman - Judeo/Christian background and philosophy.
So even if you are non Christian (and or Atheist, like me) what's wrong in words as prayer, Merry Christmas, Happy Eastern... Those are part of my heritage (in the Western world) I take those in the wider sense of the words or days.-
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ConsAreNonGrata11 months, 4 weeks ago
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It's the state sanctioning part. That's the problem.
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And there is a certain irony, that Cons get upset about nanny government getting involved with curbing pollution that businesses want to dump in our streams and air, but are fine with nanny government telling people to pray.
But that's just a bonus.-
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traveler200011 months, 4 weeks ago
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The State is just sanctioning it. It leaves you free to follow it or not. And if you follow it, it leaves you free to follow it in your way. You can even "pray" or "wish" that all become atheists (like me, and, probably, like you?).
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The State also sanctions Xmas, Eastern, etc ... all part of our " Greco - Roman - Judeo/Christian background and philosophy" in the Western World.
In some (Western) countries and/or States, they e.g. stopped putting Xmas cribs in e.g. International airports, so not to offend other religions or e.g. some atheists.
I do feel offended by that measure, even though I am atheist: Xmas is part of my history, and I do not see why it should go. Again, I find the wider sens in it.
This is not the same as the State, in name of religion, prevents "free choice" (abortion rights), gay marriage, choice to use contraception (e.g. condoms), imposes "intelligent design" as a science ....-
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Jaydee4011 months, 3 weeks ago
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Why does if you celebrate Xmas or not have anything to do with religion, you know the history predated christ and it was the early christians who adopted the same date to gain popularity. It simply a fact that government should never endorse a religion or the use of it as in a day of prayer. The government can say marry christmas with out endorsing a religion as a holiday at that time is connected to many religious and pagan celebrations as can be said of the easter holiday. Remember Christianity is a new comer on the block, a rather whinny and time consuming new comer in my opinion.
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PinkyPie11 months, 4 weeks ago
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I think there is a certain irony in the fact that Dems get upset about capital punishment but are all for abortion rights. Apparently it's okay to end the life of an unborn child but not to end the life of a convicted murderer.
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No bonus in that.
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ekklesiawarrior11 months, 4 weeks ago
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RELIGION comes from he Latin term meaning 'to cover', 'an act of covering'
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Adam and Eve hid naked in the Garden covered with a fig leaf.
Before GOD Almighty many cover themselves with various allures and venues. It is as such the likes of these scream about a time set aside, volunteer to a time of prayer. If these do not believe, what is the threat?
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memestryker11 months, 4 weeks ago
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Everyone knows Ritter is just an in-your-face adherent of organized religion. It shouldn't be state-sanctioned as it stands. They could call it something inclusive that could open it to all religions, agnostics, and atheists, but he does not--on purpose.
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smithichie11 months, 4 weeks ago
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If there CO had a "Day of Spellcasting" or "Day of Spirit Contact" would there be more or less complaints than "Day of Prayer" has produced? Afterall, as Traveler points out, noboday HAS to cast spells if the state has a day for casting them.
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