Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage »
Posted By Jayson 1 year, 1 month ago in ReligionLess than two weeks before Election Day, the chief strategist behind a ballot measure outlawing same-sex marriage in California called an emergency meeting here.
“We’re going to lose this campaign if we don’t get more money,” the strategist, Frank Schubert, recalled telling leaders of Protect Marriage, the main group behind the ban.
The campaign issued an urgent appeal, and in a matter of days, it raised more than $5 million, including a $1 million donation from Alan C. Ashton, the grandson of a former president of the Mormon Church. The money allowed the drive to intensify a sharp-elbowed advertising campaign, and support for the measure was catapulted ahead; it ultimately won with 52 percent of the vote.
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pokydoke1 year, 1 month ago
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How unusual, a religious organization trying to force their views on others. I'm right and you're wrong because my God says so. They can't leave it at "If you're a Mormon we won't recognize a same sex marriage". They have to make sure that even people who are not Mormon follow their warped view of life. This goes for all the other religious groups as well who have absolutely no business getting involved with this issue. Same sex marriage is a civil rights issue not a legislative issue. They are using religion to deny fellow citizens their civil rights. Shame shame shame on them.
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Aidenag1 year, 1 month ago
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Very, very few are anything but white, since the Mormon church is racist. Proven by the fact you couldn't be a priest(or whatever they call the position in the mormon church) if you were black until 1978. And they STILL preach that "dark skinned" people are that color because of sin...
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They need to go put their magic underwear on, have sex through a sheet with their 5 wives, and leave the rest of us alone.
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Teech1 year, 1 month ago
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I thought that churches and religious groups that enjoy non-profit, tax-exempt status in America were prohibited from advocating politically from within their organization.
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Obviously, I'm misinformed and wrong.
If Americans EVER become fully aware of how many TRILLIONS of dollars in property owned by churches is tax exempt, and Americans learn how much revenue could be raised by sharing the property tax burden equally, thereby REDUCING their personal tax burden, these laws favoring "non-profit" churches might get changed.
I choose to believe that if Jesus still walked amongst us, he'd want to pay his fair share.
Yeah, I know. Blasphemy !!!-
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
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Gays spoke against the Mormons because they were the leaders in the effort to take away civil rights. They were not singled out, per se. They made themselves quite vocal by telling us how un-Christian gay people are. That in itself is a sweeping generalization. Many gays and lesbians are quite Christian. Some are atheist, some are Jewish, some are Buddhists, some are a mix of a bunch of religions. The point is we choose our religion, not our sexual identity. As a result, we should be able to choose our partner without your religion telling me whom I can and cannot marry based on your religion's viewpoint. What about separating Church and State did the Mormons and other Prop 8 supporters not get?
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Poulenc1 year, 1 month ago
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Stalemate, above: "Was [sic] your rights voted away? These people are violating..."
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These people....
A key component of bigotry is the disassociation of oneself from other humans, who are cast as the Other: foreign, different, not me.
But gays are everywhere--they're teachers, law enforcement personnel, entertainment and sports figures, clergy, politicians...they're one's children, relatives, perhaps even one's spouse.
To lessen homophobia and the consequent cutting up of rights along a we-they pattern, this universality must be recognized.
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pokydoke1 year, 1 month ago
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I was reading the Boston Globe today and found this commentary regarding same sex marriage in Massachusetts.
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nostalgia1 year, 1 month ago
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The title is very misleading
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"Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage"
Even the LA Tomes had less biased reporting on this issue
Gays, blacks divided on Proposition 8
For many African Americans, it's not a civil rights issue.
He was thrilled that the nation elected its first African American president. But he was disappointed that black voters, traditionally among the most reliably liberal in the state, voted overwhelmingly to ban same-sex marriage.
Although many of the state's black political leaders spoke out against Proposition 8, an exit poll of California voters showed that black voters favored the measure by a ratio of more than 2 to 1. Not only was the black vote weighted heavily in favor of Proposition 8, but black turnout -- spurred by Barack Obama's historic campaign for president -- was unusually large, with African Americans making up roughly 10% of the state electorate.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gayblack8-...
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