Communist Party strategist maps out Obama's agenda »
Posted By RedRiverJ 11 months, 3 weeks ago in News
JERUSALEM The enactment of a "single payer" socialist health care system; passing laws to make joining a labor union easier; raising the minimum wage and increasing labor union support all these are just some of the policies the Community Party USA has mapped out as crucial for Obama to push through during his term of office.
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RedRiverJ11 months, 3 weeks ago
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/11/15/communis...
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FTA Norman Markowitz says "A stronger left that follows the tradition of the Communist Party,"
That's our direction far left toward a tradition of the Communist Party. Change we can believe in!
YES WE CAN!!!!!!!
Be careful what you wish for because you've got it!-
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RedRiverJ11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Editorial: Eye on the Prize
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Barack Obama is not a left candidate. This fact has seemingly surprised a number of progressive people who are bemoaning Obama’s “shift to the center.” (Right-wingers are happy to join them, suggesting Obama is a “flip-flopper.”) It’s sad that some who seek progressive change are missing the forest for the trees. But they will not dampen the wide and deep enthusiasm for blocking a third Bush term represented by John McCain, or for bringing Obama by a landslide into the White House with a large Democratic congressional majority.
A broad multiclass, multiracial movement is converging around Obama’s “Hope, change and unity” campaign because they see in it the thrilling opportunity to end 30 years of ultra-right rule and move our nation forward with a broadly progressive agenda.
This diverse movement combines a variety of political currents and aims in a working coalition that is crucial to social progress at this point. At the core are America’s working families, of all hues and ethnicities, whose determination to move forward does not depend on, and will not be diverted by, the daily twists and turns of this watershed presidential campaign. They are taking the long view. -
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Candida11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Well, RedRiverJ, this is another story to which all I can say is: So what? It outlines what Communists wish, want, hope, look forward to, pray for, long for, yearn for, and desire from the Obama presidency. It doesn't present one shred of evidence that these groups influence Obama at all, or even have any contact with him.
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"Communist Party strategist maps out Obama's agenda"? You or I can outline his agenda just as easily, but the question is whether he would listen to either one of us.
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Klarissa11 months, 3 weeks ago
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The Democrat campaign successfully used these methods:
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A Latin phrase which has come to mean attacking your opponent, as opposed to attacking their arguments.
Bandwagon and "inevitable-victory" appeals attempt to persuade the target audience to join in and take the course of action that "everyone else is taking."
Inevitable victory: invites those not already on the bandwagon to join those already on the road to certain victory. Those already or at least partially on the bandwagon are reassured that staying aboard is their best course of action.
Euphoria
The use of an event that generates euphoria or happiness, or using an appealing event to boost morale. Euphoria can be created by declaring a holiday, making luxury items available, or mounting a military parade with marching bands and patriotic messages.
Intentional vagueness
Generalities are deliberately vague so that the audience may supply its own interpretations. The intention is to move the audience by use of undefined phrases, without analyzing their validity or attempting to determine their reasonableness or application.
The intent is to cause people to draw their own interpretations rather than simply being presented with an explicit idea. In trying to "figure out" the propaganda, the audience forgoes judgment of the ideas presented.-
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k9kssr11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Goppy11 months, 3 weeks ago
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This thread is pretty interesting because it points out something that is not talked about much.
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The endemic anti-intellectualism of the Modern Republican Party.
I find it interesting that Kowabonga's comments are ignored, but his age and college affiliation are pounced upon as being all the evidence one needs to demean his participation.
In my opinion, Kowabonga has as much credibility as RedRiverJ.
Let me rephrase that, I would trust Kowabonga's comments FAR more than RedRiverJ because RedRiverJ is so blinded by Right Wing Hatred for Democracy, he/she cannot possibly make a reasoned case about politics.
Kowabonga is studying the issues with fresh eyes, thinking about the issues, even collecting data points by viewing Propeller.
The truth be told, and in my opinion, given the chance, RedRiverJ and other right wing members here follow the same reference points as General Augusto Pinochet in Chile. A military dictatorship that represses liberals and intellectuals. And I personally believe that it would not take much prodding for these 'citizens' to take a step towards some form of violence towards those they disagree with.
It happened in Chile, Argentina, Nicaragua, and Russia.
This is the blue-print for hardliners the world over. Whether they be hardliners in Russia, Chile, Argentina, Nicaragua, .... or the United States of America.
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ChefEOD11 months, 3 weeks ago
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GehlLady11 months, 3 weeks ago
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LOL, Kowabunga, puh leeeze! The real world isn't a college campus where the most important thing in your life is your class schedule and your little essays. Enjoy this time you have now, it's priceless.
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"I have an assignment for you Ms. Klarissa"
You have a long, long time to go before you get to hand out assignments, sonny boy. Stick to the drive by negs without comment you prefer to hand out, get a few more elections under your belt with the life experience that goes with them. -
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moxxxxxxxxxx11 months, 3 weeks ago
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The Democrats and Obama support one simple idea: Basic Human Rights for all Americans. Basic Human Rights; Each person regardless of position in society has the right to freedom, privacy, safety, an adequate standard of living, education and healthcare. ALL Americans should expect no less for its fellow citizens. If YOU do not value social policy that supports basic human rights for all Americans then YOU are following the path of Hitler.
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If you feel you are entitled to something better than an adequate standard of living, healthcare and education than you can use the Capitalist systems to pay for it. We all know those who believe they are deserving of more than others.You certainly have the freedom and right to place yourself above all others but don't believe for a second the rest of us regard you in the same manner.-
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corl6411 months, 3 weeks ago
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So, extra taxation for people who have an education and have worked hard to make something of themselves; to pay for the people who are too lazy to work and prefer living off the government, makes for an adequate standard of living? And, if I don't believe in this "social policy", then I must follow the path of Hitler? Wow, is there a specific type of crack that you prefer to smoke?
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nostalgia11 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Each person regardless of position in society has the right to freedom, privacy, safety, an adequate standard of living, education and healthcare. ALL Americans should expect no less for its fellow citizens. If YOU do not value social policy that supports basic human rights for all Americans then YOU are following the path of Hitler."
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You need to go back and read what the Founding Fathers wrote
Your statement has them spinning in their graves
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ekklesiawarrior11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Only look at the record of Obama within Kenya. Affiliated and supported communist agenda. That regime took much human life in January 2008. This man has no regard for value of human life.
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We have relatives resident within Kenya, this is not GOP rhetoric.-
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earthlingerer11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Ewww... I smell what you're cooking, and the recipe is BAD.
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I guess your relatives must be in the slums and supported the orange side... because they instigated the violence over the elections. The regime didn't take the lives, and neither is the regime communist. -
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sharimellis11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Moxxxxxx, you said that the Democrats and Obama support one simple idea: Basic Human Rights for all Americans. Basic Human Rights; Each person regardless of position in society has the right to freedom, privacy, safety, an adequate standard of living, education and healthcare.
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The Constitution gives us the right to "Pursue" the standard of living we wish to live wether it be adequate or above adequate, depends on how hard you want to work for it. The capitalist system is what made America the country it is today.
As far as Democrats wanting people to have privacy, look at what they did to "Joe the Plumber". They dug into his life and smeared him all over the media because he asked Obama a simple question about his tax system.
The Democrats and Obama want a Nanny state and control of every aspect of our lives. They will get rid of the middle class and all that will be left will be the workers and the rulers who will have all the wealth. How's that for "change"?-
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rimbaud11 months, 3 weeks ago
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<Nanny state and control of every aspect of our lives. They will get rid of the middle class and all that will be left will be the workers and the rulers who will have all the wealth. How's that for "change"?> Sounds like what we got under GW. He used our fear of the bogeyman to extend the government's reach into our lives, and he gave to the wealthy (the "ownership society") while protecting cheap (immigrant) labor. You are comparing Obama to a myth; why nottry comparing him to reality?
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Goppy11 months, 3 weeks ago
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I agree, God help our country when so many Kool-Aid drinkers are voting for people like George W. Bush ... just because he says he's a Born-Again Christian.
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In my humble opinion, anyone who voted for George W. Bush for President should not be allowed to use terms like Marxist, Communist, or Socialist. Because clearly, you don't have the slightest idea of what those terms mean.
For instance, George W. Bush just took money from the taxpayers and gave it to banks. What do y'all call that? -
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realistf6111 months, 3 weeks ago
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The Republican genius can knock Obama and make claims of his plans all they want. Seems the one sided President now and his Buds haven't a clue how to help anyone but themselves. Republicans should try coming up with a plan that would actually be something to help this country instead of focusing on Spin Doctoring Bullschitt on others.
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You guys are quite Pathetic. Thats why you lost the election.
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realistf6111 months, 3 weeks ago
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Seems the greed of the one sided conservative has sent this country to the schitter. There are one or two programs that they use else where in the world that are socialist programs that work quite well which should be tried here. Its interesting that Republicans are so closed minded and one sided that they wouldn't be even interested in seeing if it can help the country. By they way azzholes,,, it doesn't mean we will be communist. If theres any communist its Republicans wanting everything one way their way, one sided.
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Poulenc11 months, 3 weeks ago
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And the fear and smear continues. But who thought it would stop among those for whom the world is best drawn as (double-meaning intended) black and white, as us versus them.
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Of course those commies made a great "them," and the opportunity to resurrect the cold-war paradigm of moral capitalism versus immoral, bogeyman communism is just too tempting.
What Red River and others of like mind should do is figure out what within them requires this unceasing dichotomous division of the world.
It is possible that Obama might do a world of good for this nation. Why not wait a bit to see how effective his government is before crying that the sky will fall?
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Beau789011 months, 3 weeks ago
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I must admit that though I was intrigued by the headline of this story, I couldn't make myself read yet another ridiculous World Net Daily story. However, I can tell you from the story's summary that at least part of it is a lie.
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Obama does not propose a single-payer system (and I still support him, even though I wish he did). In fact, Obama's healthcare plan doesn't even cover as many people as the one Hillary Clinton proposed during the recent elections. The single-payer idea was killed by the insurance industry's massive ad campaign (remember "Harry and Louise"?) when Hillary first proposed it during the 1990s.
But just keep the lies up, Republicans. This tactic of lying about your opponents' positions rather than offering anything new of your own in order to scare voters into voting against Democrats clearly resulted in a disaster for your party.
As long as you all continue to live in the world of conspiracy theorists, your party will continue to disintegrate. In bad times that require real solutions, the voters aren't buying distractions anymore. -
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Natureboy11 months, 3 weeks ago
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The article is headlined on a false premise. There is nothing to suggest that the CPUSA even understands what Obama's agenda IS. They certainly have neither the authority nor the inside track to "map it out." This article is a freakin' joke (as is the CPUSA.)
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rimbaud11 months, 3 weeks ago
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What is interesting is that the Republicans attempts to divide and conquer did not work this time: they could not get us to dislike each other. Could it be, that Obama, by not being too defensive, was able to keep the conversation away fron the spurious non-issues that needed no answering?
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Will131311 months, 3 weeks ago
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FACT.. the republican party.. the members that many have the same attitude as the people on this board.... had their ass handed to them... 365 electoral votes to 162.. 11 still to close to call.. heavy losses in the house and senate.. keep the attitude you now have and by 2012 the party of the neocon will be completly gone..
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THOMNH6211 months, 3 weeks ago
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I am confused, didn't the greatest generation fight and die to protect this country from communism. I wonder what they think of the new Red Untied Socialist States of America. How long will it be before you need papers to go from state to state. Oh by the way I think GWB squandered the biggest chance this country has had in decades to do good things AT HOME after 911 when the country was more united than ever.
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antibrainwasher11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Oh yeah, its scary out there Thomoron, better get your guns and dig a hole under the mobile home you live in with your mother/wife/sister, stock up at the walmart with snickers and RC Cola, like your mother/wife fed you as a babe, and wait out the tsunami of red commie liberal gay marxist welfare cheats who are coming to take your guns and re-educate you in homosexual political camps.
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Hide and shoot anyone in the trailer park who looks suspisious, like the mail man, there's a commie government empolyee single payer marxist, kill all the mail men. And if its a mail woman, kill them twice. Police are government commies in uniform, shoot at them.
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THOMNH6211 months, 3 weeks ago
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so what your all saying so nicely is communism is good and you look forward to the day that capitalism is dead. Just making sure, and the comments about my trailer and drinking habits are not needed it only shows how the left can not debate with out name calling. Thank you comrades in advance for your input it is educational. You would not be so sarcastic antibrain if it becomes your door they kick down.
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jimdoze11 months, 3 weeks ago
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"passing laws to make joining a labor union easier"
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The "card check" laws proposed are not to make joing a labor union easier. They are about make not joining a labor union harder. This may be merely a subtle difference for some, but it is unsubtle enough that even George McGovern gets it.
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antibrainwasher11 months, 3 weeks ago
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What a commie liberal fasist nazi homosexual anti-american idea, to unionize walmart. The walton family needs all those billions to support their mega church and send millions to lawyer up against the nazi homosexuals who want to sodimize your children.
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This country was built on the 100 hour work week, at less than minimum wage. The rich are rich because the baby jesus made them so, and the nazi socialist single payer facists want to tear the fabric made by the baby jesus.
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