Obama, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News: A Look at Media in 2009 »
Posted By JSilver 7 months, 3 weeks ago in Political News
While the Bush administration is heading toward the exits, the disastrous members of mainstream media remain firmly in place...
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engineer7 months, 3 weeks ago
Rash Limburger (He stinks like the cheese), Pawn Hannity, Savage, Bob Grunt, Faux News, etc. will still their BS!
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sieben137 months, 3 weeks ago
Two worst people who influences others are Rush Limbaugh & Terrible hannity Wake up america ?
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tehranchik7 months, 3 weeks ago
First of all let me say great article, the Huff Post no less. And welcome to propeller!
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I had a running email arguing with my right-wing brother all weekend. He sent me his stuff - I sent him mine. His last words were "I can't believe that you buy in to all this stuff" Well I sent him articles from Slate, Andy Worthington, Anti-war, prisonplanet and wiki. His sources were Rush, Fox and MSM. He told me he was going to sign me up for a Limbaugh letter.
My point being - my sources weren't reliable and his were. I think Obama has an opportunity to make all of our progressive sites MSM. I certainly have my fingers crossed.-
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simonsez7 months, 3 weeks ago
So if you say something bad about Obama, then you have to say something good about him.
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Welcome to kindergarten ...
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donald517 months, 3 weeks ago
...is that why the George Mason University Study found 72% of evening newscasters (minus fox which was almost unanimously against Barack) dropping negative comments on Obama?
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mmrhe7 months, 3 weeks ago
It was pretty obvious to me that in the final two weeks before the election, media coverage of McCain got decidedly more positive after all these charges of liberal bias came out.
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The MSM was bending over backwards not to appear biased but doesn't good news always follow the leader?
I'm always amazed at how ignorant my conservative leaning friends seem to be about important issues too.
One particular incident occured late last week.
A small business owner who is a customer of mine came in and was going on about now that the election is over Obama is his president and he wishes him the best which I thought was a good sign coming from this guy.
He went on to say how great it was that a Muslim could win the election and that it could only happen in America!
I thought he was kidding at first but the man was dead serious.
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Radiofreeeuropa7 months, 3 weeks ago
The dreaded low information voter.
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Hey J, superb article by the way! Every word is so! -
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DaneL7 months, 3 weeks ago
Talk about illinformed voters. Take a look at a small sampling of these 0bama voters on these utube videos. John Ziegler did an excellent piece of how the media was slanted to the left and what issues stuck in the minds of voters.
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http://johnziegler.com/
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dunkirk7 months, 3 weeks ago
Then took his Oxy, sent his maid out for more and headed over the to the "boys" club with his viagara to preach Republican family values.
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tchef7 months, 3 weeks ago
Yes they are commentators but they still spew bias opinion based on lies. Most who listen to them don't check out the facts, they just take them on their word.
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chevydog7 months, 3 weeks ago
Interesting article.
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FTA - Wrong because you had a candidate that was forcefully embracing the policies of George W. Bush while the nation spiraled into one of its darkest moments in its history.
I'd submit that this was not the case, as McC repeatedly stressed. But the Obama campaign did its ever-loving best to present it as a fact. And in the end they were successful. Be interesting to see what future historians say.
Re McC's voting record: When party positions are almost automatically formulated on a "What does he say?--I'm agin it" basis, did anyone seriously expectly that McC didn't share basic principles with his own party? Voting for alternate positions only becomes a barometer when there are positions avaiible that are other than 180 deg different from yours. Probably the only people who really realized how different McC was from Mr. Bush were those who worked with both of them (I'm guessing a small sample). And this information was likely way too nuanced to be of use in a political campaign where, face it, the simple rules. I think the problem lies in the polarization of today's politics, rather than with whatever voting positions McC took.-
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tchef7 months, 3 weeks ago
He didn't until he was beaten by Bush in 2000. Since then he rarely vote against Bush. Everything he proposed was a continuation of Bush policy. Even his health care proposal was nothing more than warmed over version of what Bush proposed in his state of the union speech two years ago. McCain couldn't even control his own campaign, how was he going to run the country?
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The media was just a harsh on Obama as they where on McCain. They were all over Rev Wright, Tony Resco, and the others, they questioned his experience, looked at his record, just as much as they did with McCain. McCain just ran a poor campaign based on the old strategy of attack that the Republicans have been using. Obama effectively shot down the criticism and turned the attacks back on the Republicans who had nothing else to offer.
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Charlson7 months, 3 weeks ago
"There is no effort to tell voters the difference between the candidates' rhetoric and reality, how their proclamations match their voting records, and what their policy proposals would actually do. While there were a few notable moments when news outlets actually did this during the campaign, they were few and far between."
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Critical analysis of what a candidate says hardly ever crosses the threshhold of objective and balanced reporting. Ever since the Fairness Doctrine was repealed, the news networks had no obligation to report objectively and gave them carte blanche to give only one side of an issue. The mixing of entertainment and news was also another stake through the heart of journalism where ratings were the utmost concern and entertainment and sensationalism was sought after to boost viewership.
And to those who decry Olbermann because of his liberal views and insist that Handywipe, Limpballs, O'Really and the like are fair and balanced - bull hockey. He is only one of a very few journalists who are unabashedly liberal which is a drop in the bucket compared to the conservative slop in that bucket. Olbermann counterbalances the hard right extreme views that seem to permeate the MSM and would not be as popular if MSM was more balanced.-
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dunkirk7 months, 3 weeks ago
One only heeds remember that Fox sued for the right to distort the facts to suit a purpose. Kinda odd how the right always overlooks that.
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
Rush Hudson Limbaugh III (born January 12, 1951) is a rotund radio talk show host, bloated political commentator, and porcine conservative television personality. Though he makes his thoroughly well-deserved $35 million a year by regularly castigating liberals as “dope-smoking hippies,” Rush Limbaugh is himself a well-documented “prescription” drug abuser. Limbaugh seems thoroughly untroubled by this, mostly because hypocrisy has become such a major part of the modern Republican platform, right alongside guns, creationism, and yellow ribbon bumper decals. Oh, and lest it go unsaid: Rush Limbaugh is a dick; a huge one.
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Rush Limbaugh’s creatively titled The Rush Limbaugh Show pollutes the airwaves all across the U.S. on Premiere Radio Networks, the same dick company that syndicates (or “syndickates”) the likes of fellow dicks Bob Costas, Dr. Laura, and Glenn Beck. As such, Limbaugh is credited with reviving American AM radio, although you really have to wonder whether anyone would have actually missed AM radio had it been allowed to die in peace. He is also considered to be a prime force behind the so-called “Republican Revolution” of 1994, which paved the way for a fifteen-year conservative hegemony in Washington, DC. Good luck ending it now.
Rush Limbaugh began chubble-butting his way to sensationalistic fame and fortune from his birth on January 12, 1951, a birthday he shares with Hermann Göring, The Amazing Kreskin, Oliver Platt, and Paul McCartney’s ex-wife, you know, the one-legged super-model.-
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
Like so many dicks before (and after) him, Rush Limbaugh grew up a child of privilege, born into one of the most esteemed lineages of Missouri, the “Show Me (Dick) State.” Established in Cape Girardeau since the time of slavery—and probably owning more than several slaves itself—the Limbaugh family is one of those prominent dick families like the Bushes, the Kennedys, and the Sheen-Estevezes.
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Born Rush Hudson Limbaugh III—a dick name if ever there was one—he is the son of Rush Hudson Limbaugh II, a conservative windbag and prominent attorney, himself the son of Rush Hudson Limbaugh I, also a conservative windbag and prominent attorney, who was still dicking people over via the United States legal system until his Strom Thurmond-esque death at age 104
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
Many of Limbaugh's fans staunchly deny the man's alleged
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homosexuality, and Limbaugh himself says the rumors are
politically motivated lies. However, one is forced to doubt
Limbaugh, who has a history of denying and balking at rumors
that are later revealed to be true. His pilonidal cyst, his
pseudonymous career in Pittsburgh radio, and his addiction to
Oxycontin are all facts which Limbaugh initially denied or
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
In mid-2004 Rush and his
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third wife, Marta Limbaugh,
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
Limbaugh came to manhood in an era when the nation had a military draft for the Vietnam war. He avoided service by having his physician certify his medical unfitness due to an "inoperable pilonidal cyst" and "a football knee from high school." He played one year of varsity football in high school, and his coach, Ryland Meyr, said later he remembered no injuries to Limbaugh. Those who loathe Limbaugh sometimes describe his pilonidal cyst as "a boil on his butt", but that is an oversimplification. A pilonidal cyst is a chronic collection of pus or an abnormal draining passage leading to an abscess, located in the opening between the buttocks muscles. It is susceptible to infection, which can be dangerous on a war front, so severe pilonidal cysts have long been (and still are) legitimate grounds for exemption from military service. The peculiar thing is that Limbaugh denies he ever had a pilonidal cyst, dismissing it as "internet bull", though the record is plain.
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
In June 2006, Limbaugh had further drug problems when a bottle of Viagra was found in his luggage at the Palm Beach Airport. The prescription was not in Limbaugh's name, but no charges were filed against Limbaugh, who was returning from a vacation in the Dominican Republic with four male companions.
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
The mysterious "cyst" that kept him out of 'Nam. One cause of anal cysts can be receptive anal sex, but of course we have no way of knowing in this case. We do know that this was on his draft deferrment documents, and that he now denies that he ever had an anal cyst. (He did so on the air just the other day.)
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
A 46 year old music store owner from the St. Louis area, Elliot Sanders, is claiming that while a college student at Southeast Missouri University in 1971, he had an affair with Rush Limbaugh. Sanders claims that he and Limbaugh, the well known talk radio star, had an affair that went on for about 3 months in the fall of 1971...
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Sanders stated that he met Limbaugh in a class he was taking, but it was only after meeting his sister, who was openly gay at that time, that he found out Rush himself was gay. "Rush was a charming man privately," says Sanders, "I met him in a class I was taking, and got on a first name basis with him. I didn't realize he was gay until his sister came to visit him. She was gay, and like, we hit it off, and she seemed shocked that I didn't know Rush was gay as well. When I found out I was like ... wow!"
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chevydog7 months, 3 weeks ago
Sounds like you don't like the guy. Try being a little more explicit.
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I guess I've tried listening to his show a few times. Though he does make some valid points, I was pretty much turned off by the overwhelming ego (I admit to having a pretty big one myself). I don't know what Limbaugh's educational background is; but he's obviously not trying to appeal to those who are well-educated. Whatever you think of him or his views, you have to give him credit for longetivity. The number of show biz acts that last for the more than the 20 years that he's been around is fairly small; and mostly we call these "icons" or some such thing. -
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Endoscopy7 months, 3 weeks ago
Are you done with your hate speech rant? Why do you ramble on for so long with so many lies and misrepresentations? You ignore his early career in Radio and the fact that he got out of it for a while because he thought he was a failure at it.. You make it seem as though he was always rich. Truth means nothing to you obviously.
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moxxxxxxxxxx7 months, 3 weeks ago
Journalist and media owners know the difference between fact and opinion, news and editorials, but they are very ignorant when it comes to integrity and moral character.
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Manipulating the masses by spewing false and misleading rehetoric is immoral and anti-American. Fox News, Limbaugh, Hannity and Oreily are excellent at arousing emotions of hate and anger in their listeners the same tactics Hitler used to dominate Germany. -
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buckncindykill7 months, 3 weeks ago
"Reversing consolidation of media ownership through tougher broadcast license requirements and incentives for more independent, diverse and local radio, television and print outlets."
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"Independent", "diverse". The Gov't should not be deciding these. Let the public arena play out. Let the people listen to what they want to listen to, not the Gov't deciding for me what is and isn't "diverse".-
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
The same old hyprocracy, what you didn't say is instead of the government deciding, the 5 media mogals who own almost all of the public airwaves will decide to what the public will listen.
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Funny how cons always have faith in the con men mogal billionaires, and hate the government. Its the republican platform, give all the money to the top 1%, and hope some will trickle down. Kill all the government regulations that protect the people.
Capatilism as religion, greed as moral virtue, casino capatilism as the determinant of truth and justice.
Its a a steaming pant load. You are determined to repeat history, witness the robbery and greed ushering in the first great depression, and then the deregulation of the republican revolution which invited it back in, and Gay Lamebaugh was the spokesman, the anti-intellectual cheerleader for the pack of hyenas, and the first thing Reagan did was banish the laws requiring equal time for different views on public airwaves.
Lowry Mays, Gay Lamebaugh's employer and a billionaire evangelical endtimer who owns the massive radio and media empire which does nothing but spew right wing retoric 24 hours a day, operates with a public license. He is getting rich from a government contract and the deregulation of media laws. This you say, is a good thing for democracy?
What a pant load. Casino Capatilism caused the second great depression we are living through now. Casino media is brainwashing millions of evangelical morons to cause them to spout socialism and marxism and communism from their gaping ignorant pieholes, like some dark chapter of McCarthyist era mob. And you think this is a good thing.
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frctm57 months, 3 weeks ago
I don't think you get the point. The public doesn't have a say in who has the financial leverage to buy out popular media. The public isn't deciding. It is the proper role of government to guard against monopoly and unfair competition in the private sector. Threats to our freedoms don't come from the government sector alone. Wealth and power in the private sector that is unchecked can also equal abuse.
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djn3nunez37 months, 3 weeks ago
The Gov't should not be deciding these
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But the Government did decide these things to allow mutiple broadcast outlets to be owned by the same corporations.
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wtagg7 months, 3 weeks ago
"The Gov't should not be deciding these."
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Spoken like a conservative, but do you apply it as a conservative? Choice, in all things, is conservative. Or do you feel gov't should decide some things and not others?
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
Here is a list of "liberal" american media:
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NBC / General Electric/ Universal Studios. conservative corporate controlled, for profit
CBS / Westinghouse Corp conservative corporporate board controlled for profit.
News corp, largest media empire in the world, owned by the far right wing Rupurt Murdock, who invented tabloidism, owner of the Weekly Standard and WSJ. Far, far right wing.
ABC/ Disney....held and owned by a banking Cabal in Israel. Massive corporate structure, multi tiered conservative board controlled for profit.
Time Warner/ AOL/ Netscape/ Propeller. Conservative corporate controlled massive media for profit board controlled empire, cable tv programming and news.
Sinclair Media, Hard, hard right wing media empire controlling local broadcasts in both radio, newspapers, TV. Very religious, very conservative, owned by a billionaire republican.
99% republican controlled, 99% conservative, 100% board controlled, 100% for profit.
PBS...the chairman of PBS was the former Republican political director appointed by Bush.-
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Endoscopy7 months, 3 weeks ago
Try checking out the ratings instead of worrying about who owns who. What about all the super liberals that are putting out very hateful films. That is to be ignored? The news people on ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc are all very liberal. CNN is recently taking on some conservatives and getting better ratings. FOX has forced CNN to be better balanced in their reporting. Of course these things are lies to a person that has been brainwashed and refuses to let it be fixed.
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krystaleahs7 months, 3 weeks ago
In a 2008 interview with Walt Mossberg, Murdoch was asked whether he had "anything to do with the New York Post's endorsement of Barack Obama." Without hesitating, Murdoch replied, "Yeah. He is a rock star. It's fantastic. I love what he is saying about education. I don't think he will win Florida... but he will win in Ohio and the election. I am anxious to meet him. I want to see if he will walk the walk."
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This is from the Owner of News Corp- Fox news
Or the conservative, as you libs like to refer to him.
GE controls NBC Universal.. research Jeff Immelt and Keith Sharin
Sumner Redstone owns CBS and Westinghouse and many more. Where does it say he's conservative?
Why is it so bad these companies make a profit?
Come on you really believe NBC, MSNBC, CBS and ABC were in the tank for McCain?
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frctm57 months, 3 weeks ago
Rush Limbaugh has one of the most reliable media markets, the obstinately ignorant. Once his version of events is given, it becomes the gospel among ditto heads and no contrary information will have a chance of competing. I can usually tell a ditto head because they not only repeat his arguments but use his words and phrasing as well. I have known few groups as willing to surrender their independence and judgment as these folks. There is no equivalent figure on the left who commands such absolute loyalty or lock down of opinion on their followers.
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tehranchik7 months, 3 weeks ago
My brother fits into this category, although I won't call him a ditto head. Many people who believe as my brother just haven't learned to go outside of their 5 o'clock news and local newspaper. Many never will.
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How can we change the way the media market looks at the news? --- We make available. Media is supposed to be unbiased - it isn't. Progressives look at progressive news and Limbaugh followers read Limbaugh. Which is more available to the public? Easy answer - Limbaugh.
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Endoscopy7 months, 3 weeks ago
There is the hate speech rant. Calling conservatives "obstinately ignorant" is very hateful. From the perspective of conservatives the liberals are very ignorant. You wrap yourselves into this "compassionate thought" and get very hateful to anybody who challenges it. What you refuse to believe is that the people who listen to a particular radio show is those who mostly believe what the person says. You obviously do not understand what ditto means to those listening to the show. It started when a caller called in after another person agreed with what Rush said and praised him for saying it. The person said "ditto" to what the previous caller said. Thus ditto is an expression that means they agree with what Rush is saying and thanking him for saying it.
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It is amazing that you liberals do not realize that you follow what moveon.org and other think tank liberal organizations spout. They say it and all of a sudden all liberals are spouting the same thing.
Your Messiah has said he is going to kill any industry using coal and raise the price of electricity by taxing them to death. And you thought he was not going to raise your taxes. That is an indirect tax through coal and oil generating plants. His words. He also said that a deficit does not mean anything. And here you libs were blasting Bush for his deficit and now your fearless leader thinks they do not matter. That was on 60 minutes recently.
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tehranchik7 months, 3 weeks ago
We're talking about available choices simon. Not forcing. And you are right - the government shouldn't have control over what we listen to. You can turn me off anytime now.
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
Simoronsez: What makes you think government has the right to control what we listen to. The use of force to control speech is intolerable.
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How about the public use of airwaves given in a contract to use the airwaves to inform the public of news?
It was Regan who destroyed the fairness doctrine, and look at the economy now, and the state of ignorance of this country. Americans are growing MORE uninformed, more McCarthyistic, more ignorant. Last in the civilized world in math and science. Democracy will not survive without an educated populace, which is what Rove realized when he got the Villiage idiot elected twice by subverting the southern ignorant moric bible thumping inbred rednecks to vote for the party of the rich. It was the republican revolution, or more accurately, the republican regression, led by Drug Lameboy, spouting a never ending series of propanda.
Its the people who hate objectivity who hate journalism. They hate college educated professional journalists, because they dig for the truth, and cons can't handle the truth. Or, in Rovian doctrine, they can only spin the truth.
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Rayman7 months, 3 weeks ago
Rush Limbaugh is a BIG mouth with a HUGE 'low self-esteem'! He hides in his filthy and smoky radio station while using the 'First Amendment' to insult, degrade and scream out racist comments at anyone who disagrees with his 'hatemonger agenda'. This overweight and disgusting guy has done nothing but polute the airways to divide us and continu to do so with the help of other radio/tv 'nobodies' as in Faux News (Bush's former network!), Savage, Neil Bortz, Hannity and Coulter.
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I have a very simple solution to Rush Limbaugh & Co., why don't you pack-up your cigar boxes and microphones and move to Havana, Cuba, where you would be met with open arms! Better yet, the 'New & renovated White House' has openings for 'janators', 'doormen', 'shoe-shiners' and 'presidential dishwashers'!!!-
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antibrainwasher7 months, 3 weeks ago
Drug Lameboy looks ever so content with that huge phalic cigar in his gaping pie hole. Can anyone doubt his closet homosexuality? What we have here is a Larry Craig married man, a Ted Haggart, smoking his cigar while smoking the bone.
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Imagine the dissapointment of all those ditto heads when the oxy cotton addict finally comes out, and admits his one inch predickament, that he's in love with a Dominican Girlyboy.
Is this a great country or what? Drug Lameboy in drag, smoking the bone all night, and preaching hate and ignorance on the AM radio all day. Reminds me of the Roman Collesium, what a spectacle. Praise Zeus, praise Poseidon, praise Jesus. -
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Endoscopy7 months, 3 weeks ago
I felt the same way listening to the rantings of Jerry Springer when he was on by me. He refused to think about the conservative thought as anything other than garbage. Just like you dolts ranting away about this obvious very liberal story. But then that is what Huffington Post is. A very liberal place to put stories that have little to do with reality.
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Why was nothing said in the MSM about Obama's agenda, his past, or what kind of person he was. There were lots of stories about how bad McCain and Palin were. Why now do they admit they do not know what Obama stands for?????
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Codi69347 months, 3 weeks ago
Freedom of speech is fine as long as it agrees with the liberal agenda! All I see is name calling and no real debate on who was fair in reporting and who wasn't. Even days before the election Tom Brokav and Charlie Rose said they don't know who Obama is or what he stands for. Obama was on the trail for almost 2 years, they are now figuring this out! We have seen that no one knew anything about Obama's past. But we sure knew alot about Palin. Journalism died in this election.
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charles12345678907 months, 3 weeks ago
I guess the first amendment only applies to liberals and the extreme left wing. Complaining about Fox, Limbaugh and O'Reilly is an attempt to disallow all view points. Hitler abolished the German Constitution in 1937, replaced it with Socialist demogogary then proceeded to destroy Germany and 50+ million people, mostly civilians. Rewriting the First Amendment to apply only to liberal opinions is a dangerous path indeed. That same law will then be applied to suppress liberal thought and politics.
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djn3nunez37 months, 3 weeks ago
Complaining about Fox, Limbaugh and O'Reilly is an attempt to disallow all view points
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So your saying the first amendment rights of Fox, limbaugh, O'Reilly and gang trumps anyone who disagrees and complains about what they hear on public airwaves from these people? Or that they are Hitler like because they use their First Amendment rights? No one is re-writing the First Amendment. Why are they so afraid of a new "Fairness Doctrine"? -
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frctm57 months, 3 weeks ago
The public owns the airwaves. These are leased to private companies. As such, they are required to devote a portion of their broadcasts to public services like news. Now why is the right so afraid of having to broadcast contrary views? Why are two perspectives less consistent with the spirit of the first amendment than one? They keep saying this will kill right wing radio. Why? Are Rush's listeners going to abandon him if he has to debate his ideas once in a while or a segment of the air time must go to an opposing point of view? Fascist countries don't encourage diverse opinions, they step on them. Your analogy to Hitler is laughable but predictable. No one is silencing the right. They are only having their opinions subjected to contrary views. It surprises me that those who preach the gospel of competition should be so much in fear of it. I guess they don't have the belly for it.
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lloydm657 months, 3 weeks ago
When air America can convince sponsors to pay for air time,and maybe a small stipend for the host we will have fairness in talk radio.Nobody is going to listen to left wing garbage about how bad America is,How we are the problem,not the solution.Our president caused the Indonesian tsunami,snuck out of D C to set charges under the levies in New Orleans so he could kill as many black people as possible.I know there are a lot of companies who are far left,but their not going buy time for this crap.
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frctm57 months, 3 weeks ago
Very few people on the left are advancing such whacky theories. Unless you can demonstrate these theories are mainstream, your just poisoning the well. The right has their own whackos as well. Like your militia groups that engage in paramilitary training or Timothy McVeigh, the greatest domestic terrorist until 9/11, or the evangelicals who are convinced the earth is only six thousand years old or the right to lifers who bomb abortion clinics.
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Air America failed for two reasons. First, the left is not herded as easily as the right . The greater diversity of opinion to be found among liberals make them a difficult and fickle audience to lure and to please. Liberals come in more shades of opinion than do conservatives and there is more internal dissent and less agreement as to what it means to be a liberal. Secondly, Air America was too ambitious. Its not easy to start a nationally syndicated radio program from scratch. There are plenty of other successful liberal organizations that are popular and depend on public support so this would discount the notion the liberal ideas are dead or not popular. The ACLU is much older than Rush Limbaughs show or Fox News. If it is your contention that liberal media can't get broadcasting dollars, you would have to concede that the main stream media does not have a liberal bias or you kill your own argument since they receive plenty of advertising dollars and enjoy high ratings. Radio shows are just one forum among many for market place of ideas and while a nationally syndicated show for liberal opinion may not have taken off, I can assure you there are plenty of smaller independent broadcasters that express liberal viewpoints. Right wing radio is just a niche market that the conservatives have managed to dominate and one of the few I might add. They're vocal and they are loyal but this doesn't mean they are popular or truthful.
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