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Posted By Radiofreeeuropa 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsNews story on KTUU channel 2 in Anchorage. Subject: Governor Sarah Palin is interviewed at a turkey farm while turkeys are slaughtered behind her.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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b-happy1 year, 1 month ago
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OMG she is at a turkey farm!!!!! I can't believe it. What an evil person she is. Never mind the millions of people who eat Turkey. She is the evil one who likes to kill everything unlike everyone else. I mean they don't kill it, they just eat it. So she is horrible and disgusting but everyone else is ok.
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Get a life people. I would think that you would be over your hate for Sarah Palin but this lady somehow scares you guys into running bogus story's like this.
To show how stupid people are, 80% of the people think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house when it was actually SNL that made that up. 70% knew that Sarah Palin had a baby but couldn't name the three arms of government. Next time you call her an idiot just look in their mirror.-
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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lovemylibs1 year, 1 month ago
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You can see Russia from Alaska, as long as your Berings are Strait.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bering_Strait.j...
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
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PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.-
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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"Palin never said it gives her credentials or even hinted that it does."
Is that so? Well, spin this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
"COURIC: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
PALIN: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land-- boundary that we have with-- Canada. It-- it's funny that a comment like that was-- kind of made to-- cari-- I don't know, you know? Reporters--
COURIC: Mock?
PALIN: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.
COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.
PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our-- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia--
COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state. "
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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ROTFLMAO
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That is a lie that is going around. You sick libs just have to tell your lies and repeat them long enough that you actually believe them. Did you even bother to read the post you are responding to????
"To show how stupid people are, 80% of the people think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house when it was actually SNL that made that up."
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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BHAPPY:
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"To show how stupid people are, 80% of the people think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house when it was actually SNL that made that up."
ENDOSCOPY:
"ROTFLMAO. That is a lie that is going around. You sick libs just have to tell your lies and repeat them long enough that you actually believe them."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
"COURIC: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
PALIN: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land-- boundary that we have with-- Canada. It-- it's funny that a comment like that was-- kind of made to-- cari-- I don't know, you know? Reporters--
COURIC: Mock?
PALIN: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.
COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.
PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our-- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia--
COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state. "
CAJUNCHAMP:
"Ignorance is bliss ya know?!"
You don't say...
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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"The issue is that Palin said that she can SEE Russia and that gives her foreign policy credentials. She NEVER SAID that whatsoever. That's the issue. She never said that to Couric either."
You must be a glutton for punishment. Sarah Palin IN HER OWN WORDS ON VIDEOTAPE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
"COURIC: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?...Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.
PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our-- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia--"
Each fatuous comment you post simply serves to dig your grave deeper and deeper. Must be that world renown neocon mis-education.
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Yes it is quite pathetic that you refuse to understand her answer. Her creds are not based on "seeing Russia from her window" and THAT is the issue. You simply cannot judge the issue based on a Couric interview, you have to look at the entire situation and subsequent interviews to understand. Your failure to do this is what is pathetic. Have you ever taken the time to discover exactly what trade missions Alaska has been involved with regarding Russia? However, as an aside, trading with JUST Russia, IMHO, does not give one 100% credentials but at least it's a start in the right direction.
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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CAJUNCHUMP:
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"Her creds are not based on "seeing Russia from her window" and THAT is the issue."
WRONG.
That is NOT the issue. The issue is whether PROXIMITY TO RUSSIA ALONE qualifies as "foreign policy credentials." Palin bandies about buzzwords like "national security," yet there is absolutely NO RECORD of her using the governor's office to protect our national security from Russia, there is NO RECORD of her issuing an executive order as commander of the Alaskan National Guard to protect our national security, and there is even NO RECORD of Palin owning a passport for foreign travel before this year.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/06/nation/na-...
"Can you tell me one decision that she made as commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard?' CNN journalist Campbell Brown asked Monday while interviewing McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds. 'Just one?'
'But the governor has no command authority overseas -- or anywhere in the United States other than Alaska,' says Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, the service commander of the Alaska National Guard.
Occasions in which Palin does retain command authority over the 4,200-member Alaska National Guard are whenever the guard responds to in-state natural disasters and civic emergencies. 'For example, out west and northwest we had erosion problems and the National Guard was involved in some of the protection out there. About three days ago, the Army National Guard picked up a lady from Little Diomede ... at the request of state troopers.'
Did Palin directly approve each of those activities?
'No,' Campbell said. The governor has granted him authority to act on his own in most cases, including life-or-death emergencies when a quick response is required, or minor day-to-day operations."
CAJUNCHUMP:
"Have you ever taken the time to discover exactly what trade missions Alaska has been involved with regarding Russia?"
LOL. Trade missions? You clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Spin this.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Did_Palin_lie_about_...
"Did Palin lie about 'trade missions' with Russia?
In a Thursday interview with Katie Couric, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin cited "trade missions" with Russia as her one tangible piece of foreign policy experience.
What trade missions?
Research doesn't show a single Alaska-Russia trade mission since former Democratic governor Tony Knowles visited Siberia in 1997, when Palin was running Wasilla. When the reporter asked gubernatorial spokeswoman Kate Morgan about this issue, she refused to answer."
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/09/26/...
"As you might notice, Palin only cites one discernible foreign interaction under her purview: Trade missions. I spent some time on the Governor's Web site seeking more details about her trade negotiations with Russia. There's a press release about Gov. Palin's meeting with a trade mission from the Yukon, but nothing about Russia anywhere in the archives. Tony Knowles, a Democrat who was governor from 1994-2002, led a trade mission -- back in 1997, while Palin was running Wasilla. That seems to be about it for Russia-Alaska trade missions lately.
When asked for examples of trade missions with Russia that have taken place under Palin's watch, gubernatorial spokeswoman Kate Morgan refused to answer the question."
LOL!
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MotiGui1 year, 1 month ago
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Man o man, what a freaking moron you are and dense as a steel marble. I am ashamed to call myself a democrat that voted for Obama in light of your ignorance.
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Palin is commander in chief of the 49th, she doesn't have to give an executive order to assume that role as that is the job of the actual commander himself. It's much the same as the President of the U.S. Do you think he gives executive orders to the military to carry out tactical maneuvers? The title goes with the job.
However, she is briefed from time to time on top secret issues involving the 49th and with that she has a higher security clearance than Obama does up until the time he's sworn in.
Do you have any clue at all what the role of the 49th is? Maybe you'll sleep a little better if you know.
As far as her policy credentials are concerned but after I saw both the Gibson and Couric interviews I thought much the same as everyone else, "what is it with this idiot", until I was curious enough to do some deep investigation. What I found out was quite surprising as to her credentials and then it made some sense in the interviews. Her "words" were not exactly what I would call accurate but nonetheless worthy of investigation. Go searching yourself and take that stupid pyramid off your head for once.
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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"Palin is commander in chief of the 49th, she doesn't have to give an executive order to assume that role as that is the job of the actual commander himself."
Wow. You are clearly illiterate. Let me explain it again, using small words this time so that even someone as fatuous as you can understand.
NOBODY is claiming that an executive order had to be issued to give Palin command of the Alaskan National Guard. First, get that through your thick skull.
Palin claims that her role as nominal commander of the National Guard qualifies as "national security experience." However, "experience" means more than just a job title.
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, "experience" means "practical knowledge gained over the course of an encounter." In other words, acquiring "experience" involves being placed in a situation that involves decision-making and living/learning with the consequences of your decisions. Experience means being able to point to a successful track record of decision-making, being able to say that you've been in these situations before, and being able to say what practical knowledge you've learned from these situations. THAT is "experience."
Palin certainly had the authority to command the National Guard, but was never in a situation that involved her to make an executive decision as commander of the National Guard. In fact, there is NO RECORD of her making ANY executive decisions in her role as nominal commander of the National Guard. As the article that I quoted and that you NEGLECTED to read in full demonstrates, someone else made these decisions for her.
Likewise, as governor, Palin also had the authority to conduct trade missions with Russia, just as the former Democratic governor Tony Knowles did. However, since there is NO RECORD of her actually conducting any trade missions (in fact, there's NO RECORD of Palin even owning a passport to visit foreign countries before 2008), she CANNOT claim to have this type of "experience."
Palin was NEVER involved in any foreign trade missions (in fact, she flat out lied when she claimed this type of experience on national television); Palin was NEVER involved in a situation that required her to lead the National Guard or even issue an executive order! Therefore, she can't claim to have work experience in EITHER area. NO track record = NO experience.
Your analogy to the role of the POTUS as commander-in-chief is equally dense. Bush doesn't need to issue an executive order for each tactical maneuver in Iraq and Afghanistan, but he did authorize the invasion in the first place and he continues to authorize major strategic shifts (like the "Surge"). Your "analogy" is just as faulty as the rest of your "logic."
MOTIGUI:
"However, she is briefed from time to time on top secret issues involving the 49th and with that she has a higher security clearance than Obama does up until the time he's sworn in."
So? What has Palin actually DONE with this information? What decision-making situations has Palin had to face as the result of access to this intelligence? What decisions has Palin made as nominal commander of the National Guard? What track record can she point to that actually qualifies as "experience"? There were certainly opportunities (mostly natural disasters) for Palin to be involved in these decision-making situations, as my cited article indicates, but Palin chose not to be involved in it.
As for Obama, he chairs the European Affairs Subcommittee under the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. And Obama, with Biden's approval, chaired 4 meetings at the full Senate Foreign Relations committee level to probe Generals Jones and Petraeus about the ongoing operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. Congressmen are not executives and can't issue executive level decisions, but at least Obama has demonstrated the willingness to tackle foreign policy issues at the level that his position as Congressman legally restricts him to.
By the way, McCain missed ALL 4 of these meetings.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi...
Get it yet, or do you need to ask someone smarter to explain it to you again?
I can't believe someone has to explain what the term "work experience" means to you.
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LegalBob1 year, 1 month ago
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What is truly pathetic is that you two can't agree to disagree. The role of the 49th is the first line of defense in case of a missile launch from the Soviet Union and that, on top of her security clearance and subsequent advisories from the DOD gives her all the experience she needs in time of an attack. So, let me get this straight, you believe she doesn't have any experience because there hasn't been a missile attack yet? Preventative "experience", yes. First hand experience, I surely hope not. What sort of "experience" do you want from her in this matter anyway, push a missile launch button ??? :-)
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Too bad you had to stoop to handle-munging, shows that you are not confident in your approach and have no intentions on carry on a more peaceful discussion and intelligent conversation. I know, it's my job to ascertain that. Too bad this couldn't have resulted in a more intelligent discussion as there is always more than one side of any story.-
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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"So, let me get this straight, you believe she doesn't have any experience because there hasn't been a missile attack yet?"
*Sigh*
Your perspective is so limited, and it's clear you did NOT read in full the articles I cited.
1) Palin's role as commander of the National Guard is NOT limited to "missile attacks," as you crudely put it. In fact, as short as her tenure as governor has been, there have ALREADY been occasions (mostly natural disasters, civic emergencies, and rescue missions. None of these occasions involved your fantasy "missile strike" scenario.) during which Palin could have stepped up to the plate as true commander of the National Guard, but instead she DECLINED to participate. Instead, Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell took charge.
Yes, Palin is technically the nominal commander of the National Guard, but she has recused herself every time she could have led as commander of the National Guard and therefore has NO record of ACTUAL DECISION-MAKING. Experience means being able to point to a successful track record of decision-making, being able to say that you've been in these situations before, and being able to demonstrate practical knowledge you've learned from these situations. Palin can't claim ANY "experience" since every time a situation arose that required her to act as a commander of the National Guard, she excused herself and allowed others (Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell) to do the work for her.
NO decision making means NO experience. And proximity to Russia alone does NOT qualify as "foreign policy credentials."
2) Palin flat out LIED about conducting trade missions with Russia. There is NO RECORD of her ever conducting trade missions with Russia. In fact, there's NO RECORD of her even owning a passport until 2008.
3) If the U.S. had suddenly come under a Russian "missile attack" via Alaska, Palin would NOT be in command. The POTUS, NORAD, and NATO would assume control of the situation and the National Guard, NOT Sarah Palin (thank goodness!). LOL.
4) "Preventive experience"? LOL. Ok, I'll bite. What decisions did Palin make that would qualify as "preventive experience"? What actions did Palin take as governor to "prevent" the U.S. from a Russian "missile strike"? LOL. This ought to be good. By all means, post away and don't forget to include document evidence from nonpartisan sources to support your claims.
LEGALBOB:
"Too bad you had to stoop to handle-munging, shows that you are not confident in your approach and have no intentions on carry on a more peaceful discussion and intelligent conversation."
You want an "intelligent conversation"? Fine. You can start by supporting your assertions with documented evidence from nonpartisan sources, as I have already done above.
LEGALBOB:
"Too bad this couldn't have resulted in a more intelligent discussion as there is always more than one side of any story."
There is a limit to my patience, and that limit is often exceeded when bloviators dismiss the documented evidence I cite without having the decency to present ANY counter-evidence whatsoever. I cited an article in which the MAJOR GENERAL of the Alaska National Guard HIMSELF, Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, is on record as stating that Palin has NEVER exercised her nominal authority as governor to lead/orchestrate/authorize the National Guard in ANY operation, including rescue missions, civic emergencies, and even "preventive" maneuvers to counter your imaginary "Russian missile strike" (LOL). Yet, you are willing to dismiss the General's comments out of hand as if you know more about the situation than he does!
LOL!
But by all means, here is your opening. If you're truly interested in a "more intelligence discussion" and if "there's always more than one side of any story," you are certainly free to present your side.
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HughGeeRekshun1 year ago
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Don't ANY of you friggin dumbasses understand that it's JUST AT TITLE for crying out loud. Palin is "Commander-in-Chief" because it goes along with being THE GOVERNOR. She never exercised those powers simply because there hasn't been ANYthing to cause her to take any sort of action. However, it IS a KNOWN FACT that AS Governor she most definitely is updated on matters of National Security and has a TOP SECRET clearance, again, it goes along with the office of the Governor of THAT state due to the responsibilities of the National Guard in that locale. Nobody that I know of has ever stated that she would "take command" in the time of a crisis. And because of those briefing does in fact give her "preventative experience". Will she ever use it? No, the General will.
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To use a worn out old phrase "GET A LIFE" for crissake.
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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You don't follow what is being discussed very well, do you. The issue is that Palin said that she can SEE Russia and that gives her foreign policy credentials. She NEVER SAID that whatsoever. That's the issue. She never said that to Couric either. Read her response to Gibson and then read the responses to Couric again and maybe you'll get the hang of it, that is if you can see through your tainted specs. I am no expert in foreign policy but I do understand concepts quite well. I fully understand her comments and not once did I consider her responses to be "I can see Russia, therefore I am an expert in foreign policy". To think that is what she meant is absolutely absurd. But you don't like her, so whatever you think is understandable.
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ybdogsct1 year, 1 month ago
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"You don't follow what is being discussed very well, do you. The issue is that Palin said that she can SEE Russia and that gives her foreign policy credentials. She NEVER SAID that whatsoever."
I believe it's you who doesn't follow the discussion very well. Claiming foreign policy credentials because of Russia's proximity is EQUALLY ABSURD. Palin may have never used the words "see Russia from my house," but she did make the ABSURD argument that Alaska's proximity to Russia was sufficient by itself to give her foreign policy credentials.
You know your argument is a lost cause when you've been reduced to parsing words.
LOL.
CAJUN:
"I fully understand her comments and not once did I consider her responses to be 'I can see Russia, therefore I am an expert in foreign policy.'"
Than I think you better read it again. Her claim that Alaska's proximity to Russia is sufficient to afford her foreign policy experience is there in black-and-white.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
"COURIC: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that? Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.
PALIN: Well, it certainly does BECAUSE OUR-- OUR NEXT DOOR ARE FOREIGN COUNTRIES. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia--"
And to make matters worse, Palin claims that conducting trade missions with Russia as governor of Alaska gives her foreign policy credentials, yet records show that she LIED. Palin NEVER conducted any trade missions with Russia and in fact didn't even own a passport until 2008.
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 1 month ago
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Sorry, but that bit of insight did not come from SNL.
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The first time I heard it reported was during the Republican Convention, right after her speech, and it was said by Fox News' Steve Doocy -- with a straight face. I couldn't believe it.
The next time I heard it repeated was by Cindy McCain during some interview. It was clearly not meant to be funny. This was all well before SNL got into the act.
After that I heard it from McCain, Palin herself and several other Republicans trying to establish her foreign policy "experience".
Perhaps you would like to treat it as a joke now, but at the time it was delivered in all seriousness by the GOP. -
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Jeboba1 year, 1 month ago
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Bogus story? It's been all over TV today. VIDEO TAPES! Nothing bogus about this story, just the bogus bimbo at the center of it.
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She is totally clueless. What a loser! SHE lost the election for you guys and you still defend her?
NO, SNL did not make up "seeing russia". Sarah said we can see Russian from Alaska. SNL just spiced it up a bit by adding 'from my house' At any rate, the woman is just so stupid it is funny to us with a brain cell to work with. -
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Jeboba1 year, 1 month ago
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C'mon! You can't even figure out why we are talking about her! It's not that she was at a turkey farm, it's that she was too stupid to move to a different spot when the actual slaughtering of the birds was going on behind her. It was in very bad taste to most people.
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The whole bruhaha is that she is just STUPID... just like YOU idiots that support her. Why don't you go consult your witch doctor at your church!!
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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What a bunch of morons. Where do you think that the turkeys you are going to eat in a few days comes from. Where do you think that any meat you eat comes from. Those of us who grew up in agribusiness get used to seeing these kinds of things. Go and visit a slaughter house sometime. The ranting about anything to do with the killing of turkeys is nonsense unless you are a vegetarian.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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That’s pretty darned Palin youbetcha of you.
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I guess this is the new GOP strategy, show various deaths and slaughters while their politicians are bloviating...hoping to distract the eye from the warmongering and economy wrecking. It could work!-
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Those things are a fact of life and if you do not like the thought of it become a vegetarian. Working on the farm I had to kill chicken and the women then took the dead birds and scalded them in hot water and pulled the feathers off. It is not fun but if we wanted to eat chicken that is what we had to do. I also helped slaughter a cow once. You people that never have to get your hand dirty doing these things and then rant about it should be forced to kill and butcher your own food for a while. It becomes do it or starve.
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Go take your foolishness somewhere else. You are sickening to those of us who have had to do this kind of thing.-
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Wow no matter how many times you are corrected you insist on this being about "anti turkey farming". Somehow I don't believe you are that dense, your just being obtuse.
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It's the "wisdom" of doing an interview with that in the background. Not whether or not turkeys are slaughtered or how. But you are being disingenuous, you KNOW full well. Not even Palin is that dense.
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Georgia501 year, 1 month ago
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I guess they thought turkey meat was a soybean by-product. Which is completely reasonable considering, for example, that Neil Boortz can't get a caller to his radio show who both a) voted for Obama and b) knows who Nancy Pelosi is.
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Sure hope they don't channel surf to National Geographic while a lion is closing in on a wildebeast. They'll be reduced to mindless zom... Oh wait. They're already there.-
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alakazam1 year, 1 month ago
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You ever see a chicken with it's head cut off, Georgia?
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It's a less than pretty sight.
Why don't you send us all a film with that in the background?
Show us how classy you think it is.
It's pretty 'frikken warped that it's an issue...but she could have turned around so we did not have to watch the Ring O' Death.-
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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No it is not fun. But it has to be done. Why did Radiofreeeuropa put this on Propeller? So you and everybody else that hates Palin can rant some more. Where she is from most people are used to this kind of thing and think nothing of it. That was a local reporter and Radiofreeeuropa made it into Propeller insanity.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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How about that! It was on every network within 24 hrs...even FOX.
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Looks like your buddy RFE has a nose for news.
And a disdain for warmongering troglodytes.Youbetcha wink wink.
Again no one is against turkey farms, you are missing the point.
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I do not hate Palin.
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I just think she is one of the last people on the face of all the Earth I would chose as President of the United States.
The very idea is ridiculous.
The video is more like a mad theatrical play than a news interview.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Your joking right? Would Ronald Reagan have had animals being slaughtered 3 ft away from him in an interview? Would anyone with a brain? You wouldn't defend Obama if he was bizarre enough to use slaughtering animals as a background for an interview. It's just moronic and in very poor decorum.
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cushi1 year, 1 month ago
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It reminded me of the great turkey tragedy on the defunct tv series, WKRP in Cincinnati. Remember when they tried to do a turkey giveaway by dropping the turkeys out of a plane? And the poor turkeys were dropping on people or hitting the ground, like, SPLATTT!!
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The poor reporter was going, "Oh, the humanity!" It was hilarious...because it was a tv show and a comedy and meant to be in ridiculous bad taste...but seeing the real deal? HEARTLESS, HUMORLESS AND HIDEOUS!!
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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I can't find the link pointing to where she said she was fine with it. Please post, thanks. If she was "fine with it", so what? The ultimate villain here is the station that allowed it to be aired. Now, maybe a stretch but not too far off ... what IF that run should have hit the cutting room floor and some tech out for a buk or two, sold it rather than burning it? It HAS happened ya know and quite often.
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OH, now we are going to blame the camera man? Hmmm? Of course, Republicans NEVER accept any responsibility for their actions and ALWAYS blame somebody else.
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Look, the woman is a stupid bimbo. Let's hope she keeps it up. It won't take long for the people of Alaska to get sick and tired of being laughed at. She will NEVER be re-elected, even to dog catcher of Wasilla.
I'm sure the RNC wishes she would go away too! She has embarassed the hell out of them. Except there are the right wing radical evangelical fundamentalist gon totin fruitcakes that like her! Well, that leave most reasonable people out and WE DON'T LIKE HER because she gives the rest of the world the excuse to laugh at all of us! -
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RFE-Yah I know! and this is something I want to make sure to think about as I'm sitting down at the table this Thanksgiving, Sarah Palins shrill voice and turkey blood.......
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lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago
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That guy reminds me of the movie Fargo, where he's mindlessly stuffing a body in a wood chipper. There's Sarah standing there in her expensive clothes all chipper, and giddy saying nothing of importance except that she was glad to be there, involved, and she didn't care about any political backlash, by golly she was having a good time!!!
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DarkWizard1 year, 1 month ago
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Thank you for the invite and the funny video! Is she just totally clueless or what?!
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Seeing turkeys get killed didn't faze me one bit as I've heard my Dad's vivid description of killing chickens on the farm many times. Of course, it wasn't surprising to see Palin use this event for more inane babbling (any setting works for that!).
The predictable clamor from the right-wing rabble is what I find even more hilarious! Defending Palin has no meaning except to show that birds (turkeys) of a feather…vote for morons (or something like that).
The defeat of McCain/Palin has been harsh on the Neocon faithful and some of the staunch Republicans. But, at least articles like this one still give them a way to keep their writing skills sharp, their wit keen and their comments as ready as waiting for that next chance to grab a vine while sinking in quicksand.
I actually envy the Neocons! They are so hapless, blind and ignorant that they don’t even know that they lost the election for President and some major seats in Congress. Ignorance is bliss! Of course, the ones that do realize they’ve lost are waiting for a recount and another Supreme Court decision! Happy Turkey Day!
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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Was that Joe the Plummer in the back ground ?
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Is he licensed ?
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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She did something worse than shoot wolves herself:
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Yah, really great and just slightly slanted ... You should see what those people do at dog shows. They let dogs out of cages when the owner / handler is showing in one of the rings. I have first hand experience with those people, been showing Aussies for over 20 years and have witnessed this many times. Them and the PETA people. They are NO friends of dog owners for sure. There was a big incident at Wesminster this time with some of the PETA people being arrested for actually abusing the animals by blowing cigarette smoke in their faces.
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Of course. Her government should just let the wolves go wild and not be controlled. That way the moose and caribou populations in those area will be extinct and the people that live on eating them and the wolves themselves can just starve. A lot of those places are Islands. You libs are pathetic. EVERY state wildlife commission gives out permits for hunting that allow the hunted animals be kept in check and in that way the rest have a healthier life. Your ignorance of the ecology is amazing.
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DaneL1 year, 1 month ago
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You're asking people to try and understand something that most have never seen let alone lived with. I only wish I could reintroduce wolves or grizzlies in their backyard. It's all great as long as they don't have to live with them. They think it's like some Disney movie.-
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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I was raised in the mountains, bob cats and bears! Not once do i recall anyone ever killing one. Sometimes man has to let nature take it's course and stop trying to intervene where they're not needed.
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DaneL1 year, 1 month ago
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So then you are fine with wolves and grizzlies being around your kids and livstock? Great! Move out here we now have plenty of both and they just love EASY food sources. Or better yet, let the government send you a few for your neighborhood.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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So what is your point ???? 2 posts up you say " I only wish I could reintroduce wolves or grizzlies in their backyard " now your bitc hing that it is a stupid idea ????and why ? Because N2N said to live with the animals?
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Endoscopy1 year, 1 month ago
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Could it be the black cat doesn't know as much as claimed. Did cat live in Alaska where these things are happening. Does cat know what the wildlife commission in the state that that mountain is did about issuing hunting licenses? Of course not. Just because cat didn't kill anything that does not mean that others were not culling the wildlife by hunting there.
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Live in the real world not your little made up one.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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Sorry but Sask. is a prov. bigger than Texas, but maybe a million people, farm land in the south, forest and muskeg in the north, and a deer, moose hunters paradise.
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Sabre probably forgot more about nature than you will ever know.
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DaneL1 year, 1 month ago
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"But still someone who proposes to set wildlife free in urban areas"
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You really don't get it do you? Very simple, don't tell me what to do in my backyard and I won't tell you what to do with yours. What gives you the right to keep me from protecting my property.
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Depends on the species of the game and the predator. There are many more deer than there are predators that hunt and kill them, including man. Now, when you're speaking of Moose in Alaska, there is just the opposite and the native Alaskans depend on Moose for food. I understand that most people are uneducated when it comes to balance in the ecosystem.
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DaneL1 year, 1 month ago
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Sounds like a good idea but we can't thin wolves and grizzlies out here, except in very rare occassions. You can shoot a grizzly here if he/she is eating you and you better be able to prove it. We have too many tree-huggers coming here in the summer (then they leave when the weather gets harsh) telling us how to live and what is best for us.
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Georgia501 year, 1 month ago
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I'm not an industry expert, but I spent time on a turkey farm on an Israeli kibbutz back in the 70s. The conical "contraption" as we used it was not for slaughtering turkeys. It was to humanely dispatch the ones that are sick before they infect the others. It's designed for the neck to drop through so it can be cleanly sliced. Death is quick, and the carcasses are then incinerated after the blood drains out. Same thing takes place on chicken farms.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Palin and her supporters can splatter as much blood as they like in private.
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But stay the heII out of politics please. It isn't the clueless Palin I dislike, but the cretinous anti-science, anti-reality, bozos who would get excited about such a candidate.
To think anyone entertained the idea of this buffoon in public office is embarrassing.
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puffin1 year, 1 month ago
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I am, ameliog.
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But If I .. let's say .. had to pull a Survivorman .. I could resort to catching fish. I'd be ok with that. Depends on how hungry I was .. and where I was stranded. Hopefully I was just lost in East Van without a granola bar 'cause those old Italian men sure know how to tend a garden! ; )
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tchef1 year, 1 month ago
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The contraption is to drain the blood from the turkey. That's why the guy was waiting there so long.
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If your a vegetarian and have been for a long time, be careful about eating any meat if pulling a "survivor man". Your body isn't used to the bacteria that is contained in meat and just suddenly eating it will cause you to become very ill. You have to work your way back up to it a little at a time. (not a condemnation, just a little helpful knowledge) -
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ameliog1 year, 1 month ago
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I respect your diet choice. It'd be so tough for me to give up meat and dairy, although it would be the easiest for me to do at the least cost if I needed to make severe budget choices.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Many years ago I was working as a purchasing agent for a luxury Hotel, took a tour of a slaughterhouse in that capacity, they had a hand held device that drove a "nail" into the brain of the animals. (Like in "No Country For Old Men). A friend of mine who grew up on a farm said they break their necks to end life. Since the head is still on the birds, it's likely one of the two is the answer. What a place for an interview! Is she oblivious? Was it intentional?
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k9kssr1 year, 1 month ago
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A friend of mine went to Korea to visit her son in the military. Their hotel was next door to a restraunt that served dog. They would tie the dogs up in the alley behind and beat them before slaughtering them, supposedly those "toxins" such as adrenaline tenderize the meat.
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I've watched my grandmother kill chickens by wringing their necks, sometimes the head comes off and the chicken will continue to run around....hence the saying "like a chicken with it's head cut-off".-
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puffin1 year, 1 month ago
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It may tenderize the meat, sure *supposedly* ... but the human body has to work up to like fifteen times harder to remove those toxins from the digestive system, and even then not all are removed, but stored and accumulated in each & every cell.
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cushi1 year, 1 month ago
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Although where I live is considered a city, in my younger days, it was VERY country. My next door neighbors raised chickens, and whenever they wanted a good chicken dinner for Sunday, the elderly man would go out and get a chicken from the coop, either wring it's neck or put it on a chopping block and chop it off with a hatchet. As a kid, I was very curious and inquisitive, so I went to watch how it was done one time, and sure enough, after he had chopped the head off the chicken, it jumped up and started running all around the yard, and headed directly toward me. Scared the beejesus out of me!! lol
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That was the end of my observations, you betcha!!
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earthlingerer1 year, 1 month ago
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If you look, it's kind of funnel shaped, and the head comes out at the end.
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Also, look inside the basin under it, and at the guys pants.
Notice the turkey "kicking" in the first part?
It's where they bleed the birds. You just didn't see them get cut.
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Progressive1 year, 1 month ago
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I saw it last night on CNN and MSNBC, both of whom blocked out the view of the turkey while it struggled. After watching this uncensored Youtube version on an HD screen, it appears that the man is wringing the turkey's neck and then severing its head after stuffing it into the device that subsequently bleeds the bird. As a lacto-ovo-pesca vegetarian, I found it disgusting. Will she next subject us to watching her field dress a moose?
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I wasn't even able to concentrate on what she was saying until the 4th time I saw it. She really seems ideal for this now:
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Endo, why do you keep insisting this is about food?
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Find a single comment that isn't ultimately about Palin's lack of judgment in using this background. You seem to want to pretend it's about the slaughter itself.
It is not.
It's about why anyone with an intact cerebellum would use or even allow that to be a background for an interview. I think you know that.
So quit pretending people are against turkey farms.
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tchef1 year, 1 month ago
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What voter group is she going for there? Slaughter house employees maybe? As a chef and one time hunter what was going on doesn't really bother me, but it's just not a scene you want going on in the background when you are giving an interview.
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StevieGee1 year, 1 month ago
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If you are going to be in politics on the national level you have to be smart. You have to understand that the media is going to make mountains out of molehills. You have to manipulate the press coverage to make yourself look as good as possible because this is all that most people have to judge you by. Having someone slaughtering birds in the back ground is just plain stupid. Barack Obama wouldn't be President Elect right now if he had done something like this. It shows poor judgement. Good judgement is something that I feel, a President needs. McCain lost because picking Sarah as a VP showed bad judgement.
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Bkumm1 year, 1 month ago
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You know, I'm a meatatarian, but watching that video has put me off my feed for a while.
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I'm also concerned about ole Sarah. It's one thing to say that you're a hunter and a gun enthusiast, but it's quite another to hang out and give an interview at the turkey holocaust. What the heck was she doing there anyway? Oh, that's right, it was "promoting a local business" and it was "fun". How much fun did she have in her dress clothes?
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Hhussk1 year, 1 month ago
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Actually, the background was intentional. Most of us behind the scenes knew it at the time.
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The joke is on people who are looking for a reason to complain about her. If you complain about killing turkeys, you're a moron. If you complain it's not a local business, you're clearly ignorant. If you complain that she's stupid, you're making yourself look even more stupid.
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Bkumm1 year, 1 month ago
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What was the intent? To show that she likes to watch while turkeys are slaughtered? To show her "support" for a local business? What was the intent?
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She's reaching, grasping and gasping for media attention and we all know why. Now, the question is whether or not she's reaching the "real America" by being interviewed in front of a turkey slaughtering operation.
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ProudBlueTexan1 year, 1 month ago
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If you think you can't enjoy Thanksgiving without eating a dead turkey, ask a vegetarian. They're the smartest people on the planet.
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If you think a rational society can't get along without turkey farms, or catfish farms, or cow farms, etc., ...... you are not very evolved.
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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No, the smartest people are the ones that eat one that IS dead. :-)
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Sure, society could be weaned off red meat, etc. but can't happen physiologically over night. We are a meat-eating species and completely changing over to a foreign diet simply won't happen, the hormons won't allow it.
My wife says I could survive off Rice Crispies and Cheerios .. she's right. :-)
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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And your comment shows me that you ain,t talking turkey.....LMAO
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Hhussk, if you were there behind the scenes as you claim, by all means enlighten us as to intention here...how does this show good judgement? oh and no one complained about killing turkeys, just slaughtering them in plain view while one is gobbling for the camera.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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No I think he means like the turkeys, headless, it does suit some of his comments.
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Wonder how much that wardrobe cost so to look good for the turkeys
lol.
Actually though, I do believe that interview was at what is left of the Alaskan Rep Party and their supporters
Animal Farm anyone.
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b4ree761 year, 1 month ago
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If you think this is bad don't eat turkey. Eat tofu for Thanksgiving.
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Also to all Obama supporters. You should watch a partial birth abortion procedure. When the full grown infant's head is out of the birth canal, the abortionist inserts a scissor-like instrument to spread the skull opening at spine intersection. Then a high powered machine sucks out the baby's brains. Think about that during your Thanksgiving celebration.-
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b4ree761 year, 1 month ago
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Your right, the comparison is idiotic.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago
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Besides the obvious [how would you know-were you a decapitated turkey in a former life?], how does the turkey's nervous system process pain without a freakin head?
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one key factor of pain is it has to be recognized-you have to be aware of it. Hence they put you to sleep before they start ta cuttin...
I will however use your advice about thinking about abortion at Thanksgiving Dinner-a) I could lose a couple pounds and it might keep me from over-eating, and b) my second cousin been looking good to me and Tryptophan makes me horny [oddly enough Viagara puts me to sleep...tho it occasionally makes me dream about making love to turkeys. Go figure]-
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago
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nothing like a misplaced post
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obviously a reply to the aborted Thanksgiving dinner comment above
as for the replied to post about what I have done for human rights...if I was the one made the abortion comments, I'd probably have a good answer for that...it's an easy one, a ground ball...
this section appears all jumbled as PBT's post is apparently misplaced as well
what have I done for human rights...hmmmm...well I'm human, therefore I've been fighting for human rights all my life
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oops tchef, was supposed to be under b4ree.........I agree it was odd...
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exactly. Killing human babies is a "privacy issue", a womans "choice".
Killing turkeys is inhumane.
Although I thought it a little odd to frame the video like it was, it didn't send me into such indignation either. I eat meat, that's what happens before it gets to the grocery store. Does anyone with the "so inhumane!" comments buy eggs? Do they pay the extra to make sure they are free range eggs? Is it only inhumane when they don't see the chickens that never leave their cages? Ever eat veal? -
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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I can't help but agree as to "why it's in the interview". Why didn't the station pull it? How did it make the national news? Sooo many questions regarding this and some of the answers may be surprising IF we get any plausible ones.
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Charlson1 year, 1 month ago
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"I thought it was quite brilliant."
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Of course you do. But most people don't like being reminded how their food is killed, from chicken to beef to pork or turkey, people just don't want to see what looks like inhumane treatment of their food source. So, what do you think most people will remember about this video? And did they also see this as mocking her detractors and spitting in their faces? I'd think this will only reenforce the notion that Palin is cruel and witless. But, hey. that's my take and I'm sticking to it. -
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Charlson1 year, 1 month ago
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Contrary to what you may think, this lib knows what happens BEFORE Thanksgiving when the birds are slaughtered probably months before the holiday. Most of us get our birds at a grocery store and they're usually frozen. You project what you think liberals think, but how in the hell would you know, are you liberal? lmao at some of the inaneness that some wing nuts possess.
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WTF ? ? ?
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Talk about bad optics. Whoa! Now we know why McCain's handlers had to keep a leash on her, she has to be the dumbest person on the planet, I bet she just ruined thanksgiving dinner for a whole lot of people!
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There is of course two sides to this. First of all it's considered run of the mill considering the location, demographic makeup, traditions, etc.
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However, Palin IMHO is not who should be blamed here although she could have had a voice. The TV station is to blame 99% for allowing this to be aired as well as making it to the national news.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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And if anyone was stupid enough to be interviewed at a bull fight they would get just as many, probably more comments directed at them.
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I don't think she is stupid, just naive; but still, it shows me what 40-45% of Americans became infatuated with but are now taking a graceful backstep to her.-
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Interesting how the public knows a lot more about Palin than they do about Obama. I've been to Anchorage once and if I wasn't pushing old age I wouldn't hesitate one iota to move there. Maybe not Anchorage but a little more remote where there isn't a Wal-Mart. Boy would that be remote or what? :-)
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SwampRat19611 year, 1 month ago
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Sorry b-happy, SNL didn't make up the part about being able to see Russia from Alaska, Palin said it herself during the interview with Charlie Gibson.
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There's nothing bogus about this story, she gave an interview and when the photographer told her what was going on behind her, she chose not to move and allowed the interview to continue. I assure you I know all three branches of the government, the preamble to the Constitution as well as the Supreme Court Justices and the presidents who appointed them. I couldn't care less that Sarah Palin has a baby, but I do find it extremely offensive that she would chose to give an interview in front of this slaughter for children and squemish adults like me, to see.-
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SwampRat19611 year, 1 month ago
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No, I'm well aware that one can see Russia from parts of Alaska and never said otherwise. Someone else said Palin never made that reference and I was only pointing out that she did indeed make the reference. I did not say anything regarding the process of turkey killing, only that I found it offensive that she chose such a backdrop for her interview. Whatever in the world makes you think I am a liberal? Or Fat? YOU on the other hand, cannot spell!
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b4ree761 year, 1 month ago
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So what. You can see Russia from some Alaskan islands in the Bering Straight on a clear day. She did say that. Did you think that just because SNL made a joke out of it that it wasn't true? Also this process of turkey killing is approved by the FDA. The turkey is killed instantly and the movement after is just it's nerves. It is very humane. Palin is also getting national attention by offending weak liberals like yourself. Why sensor the reality of an American Holiday? When millions of fat people like yourself will gorge themselves to sickness.
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't disagree, however ... I do disagree with the part where the turkey is thrashing about involuntary or otherwise. How many children and even adults have no clue as to what happens after death. I can't imaging a 5 year old viewing it telling his mommy "Oh, look the turkey is dead and is having involuntary nerve movements".
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I am of the opinion that the station was mostly at fault for airing it. It was unfortunate that it was Palin that was there. I will be waiting for her answer on that one.-
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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Your comment " I am of the opinion that the station was mostly at fault for airing it"
Why is that.
Something like this is an everyday occurrence to most of rural America ( Canada too) so is it only offensive to urban kids ?
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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I fully understand about everyday occurrence and all that. But the station should have had a clue that it was Palin and not "bubba" being interviewed. They should have had the wherewithal to have canned it. And I am not so sure that it was canned and survived the cutting room floor. It's an all too common occurrence these days. Wait till the Enquirer gets hold of this. SNL is gonna have a field day too.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago
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CajunChamp,She already answered it, she said "ah this was this was neat! I was happy to get to be invited to participate in this, blah blah blah,this will probably invite political criticism, but at least this was fun!
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Looks like Sarah knew EXACTLY what she was doing, where she was, the whole thing, but the station is to blame for airing it?????
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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No, I am simply the little kid with the large stick getting ready to take a swing at the hornets nest hanging on the branch above. WHAAAAAPPP !! All the hornets come out mad as hell with the same buzzzz as usual. :-)
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Speaking of hornets, do you what sound they make when they fly upside down?
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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She said exactly that? Where's the link, I'd like see what I missed. "I can see Russia and that means I have policy creds" ... I seriously doubt that. Maybe taken out of context like most of the other rumors.
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Correct, blame the messenger. If the messenger would have killed it, the message would not have aired. Cart-before-horse-before-cart .. you know the routine.-
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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Read CBS News.com exclusive detailing Palin's briefings on Russian jet incursions
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Couric: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don't know, you know … reporters.
Couric: Mocked?
Palin: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.
Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.
Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there…
Couric: Have you ever been involved in any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
Palin: We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state.
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Hey, I am having as much fun with this as youse people. I have yet to see text where she said she can see Russia and that gives her foreign policy experience.
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Also curious as to why the MSM didn't report on her being the Commander In Chief of the only National Guard unit that is on active duty 24 / 7 / 365 and who's job it is to intercept a missile attack and being the first line of defense of the lower 48? She has a higher security clearance than Obama. But of course his will be higher as President. "Dummies" and "morons" don't get that type of clearance.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Let's put this to bed once and for all.
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Russia and Alaska are divided by the Bering Strait, which is about 55 miles at its narrowest point. In the middle of the Bering Strait are two small islands: Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can see one from the other. The Diomede Islands are often blanketed by persistent fog, which makes visibility difficult. On a clear day, though, a person standing at sea level can see a little less than three miles across the ocean. You can see farther if you go higher—at the highest altitude on Little Diomede (919 feet), you can see for about 37 miles.
The Russian island is unpopulated except for a small weather station.
There isn't much to see. Certainly one could learn very little about Russia by looking at this island.
Palin has never been there.
Alaska is large, to claim you can see Russia from Alaska is very misleading, it's really just that one island which very few people have ever visited.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/164172/D...
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Georgia501 year, 1 month ago
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Palin: one can see Russia from Alaska
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SNL: "I can see Russia from my house."
Notwithstanding liberals can't grasp the distinction in the two comments above, it is physically impossible for the naked human eye to see Russia while standing on the ground at or near the Palin residence or the governor's residence in Juneau.
Tina Fey was funny, not factual. Omigod...liberals won't get this distinction, either.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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As a child I spent my summers on my Aunts farm in Nebraska and every Sunday after church my uncle would catch up a rooster and we would take it to the chopping stump. This stump had two nails in the top so he could slip the birds head in it and with on swift chop of the axe the head was gone and it was "instant" death. He then would hang it from the cloths line to bleed out. We then proceeded to the wash house where we dipped it in boiling water and plucked it clean. From there Aunt Mayme would butcher it up and then to the house we'd go. About 4 pm we would all sit down to a wonderful fry chicken dinner.
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It never bothered me because it was an instant death and it was the food chain, but animals slaughtered the way they are today commercially because it saves a penny is disturbing to me.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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"It's a small, small world." Yes it is indeed!!!
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To think we would end up meeting on the WWW!!!
My summers on the farm were really wonderful, he had draft horses that use to till the fields, I learned to milk a cow, tend to the piglets, all the great experiences of being on a farm and living off the land. Guess those skills will come in handy with the new depression.
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beavith11 year, 1 month ago
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let's connect a few dots...
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"it never bothered me because it was instant death"
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'it gave a look into the real person she is, totally desensitized, no empathy, and no class, just white trash.
so.
does this mean you have no empathy... blah blah blah, and are white trash, too...
or
has is your political discriminator so off that you just hate Palin?
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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Yes, but I have always been humane and respectful when it came to killing the animal or fish.
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Native Americans have a wonderful way of actually thanking the animal for it's death so that they can live, that way they don't have bad "Karma" and are respecting the God in all life.
Modern humans have become so desensitized regarding their meat sources. But hey, that's ok, they are eating a lot of bad hormones and other chemicals the animals release into their bodies from fear.-
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cushi1 year, 1 month ago
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I went fishing with my ex once, when he reeled the fish in on the hook, I felt so sorry for them, and when I saw them gasping in the pale, slowly suffocating to death, I started crying and couldn't stop. He had to throw them all back into the water! He never took me fishing with him again!
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Then he came home with crabs and threw them into a pot of boiling water, and they were scrambling and screaming...and I couldn't eat a single one!!
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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cushi "It that makes me a certified bleeding heart liberal, I'm proud of it." You can be very proud of that, to bad there's to many people that don't have an emotional feeling for any thing. If they had to hunt, kill, clean and cook their own food I think they would think twice about the actual animal.
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I gross my hubby and the customers out at the grocery store when I stand in front of the meat and ask him what "critter" he has a hankering for. I put a face on the animal, you should see the looks I get!!!!!
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lloydm651 year, 1 month ago
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b happy :see how much these yellow dogs democrats are.They depict their leadership perfectly.Hate,hate,and more hate.I believe it will burn them out before they can even think about Governing.Remember some of these haters were ten,or twelve years old when their parents sat them down,and explained to them why they must hate president Bush,and like most children you obey your parents.
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Jeboba1 year, 1 month ago
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No, parents sit their children down and teach them not to lie. They teach them not to torture. They teach them not to start fights (wars). They teach them to respect all human life. They teach them to obey the law. They teach them to respect the constitution of the United States. They teach them to have integrity.
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So naturally when they saw Bush violate all of that, they were well justified in hating him!
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saneman1 year, 1 month ago
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Since oil has dropped to less than $50 per barrel and since Palin didn't have to do much since the economy was thriving in Alaska for the last 2 years with oil being at record highs, I guess we will have to see how well she governs now.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Alaska has always been the biggest recipient of government welfare and pork in the nation.
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Without Stevens (who headed the appropriations committee) to steal federal money for Alaska, they are in trouble. Technically Alaska was purchsed by the Federal govt. -and we the people own it outright. Any deals they've made with big oil should have benefited the US treasury, not the local yokels.-
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saneman1 year, 1 month ago
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Not the biggest, but very close.
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http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/re...-
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Per capita I should have said...
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That is a very interesting chart saneman.
Notice the traditional RED states are all the largest recipients of government welfare and the traditional blue states recieve the least and contribute the most.
I think if those Red states are so against federal dollars being spent they should refuse to accept them don't you? My state would nearly double it's budget if it wasn't handing out money to deadbeat red states.-
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saneman1 year, 1 month ago
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"I think if those Red states are so against federal dollars being spent they should refuse to accept them don't you?"
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Absolutely. But it has been widely documented that the Rich are the ones who always get the free Government grants. Most of the people in the U.S. may not be dumb as you claim, but they sure are hypocrites. They complain about the poor getting welfare from the government when in fact the biggest welfare recipients in the U.S. are the Rich and corporations.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't agree with your take on her explanation, so I will give you that, but not her pushing the socialism crap.
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On a CNN interview when asked if she thought Obama was socialist, her answer was "NO"
But everyday after that , in her speeches she kept that fear label in the news by spouting "Joe the Plummer" thought is was. And that is all it was;;;a scare tactic, not a platform to repair a nation.
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cushi1 year, 1 month ago
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Joe the Plumber was the biggest joke next to Sarah Palin of McCain's campaign. He and Sistah Sarah thought people were laughing with them, and all the while they were laughing AT them...and they went right to the polls and pulled that lever or marked that ballot for a "real" American, Barack Obama! Ha, ha, haaaaaaaa
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CajunChamp1 year, 1 month ago
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Palin had little to do with the defeat IMHO of course. It was McCain's inability to distance himself from Bush at the outset of the campaign. Doing so in the final debate was way too late. Also, trashing the other guy was a major factor and not concentrating his campaign on the economy did it in for him.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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A local politician recently was interviewed at a hospital, you know for some reason, it wasn't shot in the morgue. Or the operating room. It's just common decency. I fish, I hunted as a young man, death is not at issue here. What is at issue is the idiocy of any politician who would choose or allow the slaughter to be the background of a "fluff" interview. And then especially those supporters of hers who think it's a good idea- that it's a brilliant message.
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decipher1 year, 1 month ago
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ok all of you dead turkey defenders... the bird tastes great, no doubt... the deal is, when you read your roadmap to the whitehouse tip sheet... the third cardinal rule is:
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"never do an interview in front of stuff getting killed"
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joaski1 year, 1 month ago
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Lloydm65 do you really know what the hell you are saying? Democrats are hateful? I have read all the blogs and every single time Obama, our President elect, has to be brought up with hate and threats. Why because he is half-black? Does anybody think Bush has done a good job? How the hell did the country get in the mess we are in? Because of him!!! Who took over with an overbundance of money in the treasury and now we are trillion of dollars in debt and the idiot still has two months to go. God knows what kind of damage he will still do, only an idiot can do what he has done!! Another idiot would have the follower, Mc Cain and Palin. One is stupidier than the other. Thank God the election is over but with jerks like you, it will go on forever!!
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dwemm1 year, 1 month ago
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I've got no issue with turkey slaughtering, or even with Palin's choice of backdrop (hell, if she keeps going she'll insure the Democrats will win the governor's mansion in Alaska).
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BillieMaxer1 year, 1 month ago
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Its amazing how much wasted time Americans spend on dumb things and dumb people.Just think it only took 8 years for the majority to finally get it straight,they almost(or did) let the country fall apart before they realized it, how long will it take to get the rest on track, or is it even possible.This Palin person is another example of wasted time.
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Poulenc1 year, 1 month ago
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A perfect visual metaphor: turkeys are slaughtered, read: the world burns, and Palin chats on about "great" Americans who want to have government get out of their way and her son in Eye-raq.
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The cultural dissonance of the educated-urban versus the rural-not or poorly is always astounding to me.
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4thchance1 year, 1 month ago
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WHAT??? you mean to tell me that people actually slaughter turkeys so we can eat them!?
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And you mean to tell me, if someone is around when that happens (Sara Palin), then that makes that person some kind of a scumbag. Wow, our world sure has changed. When I was growing up, 1950s/60s our family raised chickens for food. I use to be involved with the chicken slaughtering process, so does that make me to be the same as that HORRIBLE Sarah Palin!? I guess it does.
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Poulenc1 year, 1 month ago
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4th, some people object to animal slaughter and have good reasons for doing so.
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The fact that they do doesn't necessarily make them automatically more moral than those who don't; on the other hand, not everyone wishes to see the process. This may be hiding from the fact.
You must admit that having the ex-candidate for vice-president giving a chatty interview while turkeys are slaughtered behind her is, to say the least, odd and disquieting.
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craftyladymj1 year, 1 month ago
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To show how stupid people are, 80% of the people think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house when it was actually SNL that made that up...........Yes, and Bill Ayers is just someone in the neighborhood and Rev Wright never said anything racial or anti american in his church, lol. Oh, I'm so happy Obama's idea of change is back to the Clinton era. I agree, you all should have just voted for Hillary. I'll give Obama a chance, but it's looking like more of the same to me.
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BillieMaxer1 year, 1 month ago
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How long did the nipple flick from Jackson take to go away. As long as folks dwell on the most redundant issues , silly people or stupid stories, Palin will be around. She thinks we are laughing with her, she doesn't know any better, but then again neither does most of Republican party.
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frctm51 year, 1 month ago
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I held out high hopes that Sarah Palin would recede from public consciousness after the election. I don't find her very interesting either as a person or as a comic figure. She reminds me of a small town gossip. Just annoying more than anything else.
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frctm51 year, 1 month ago
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Sarah has a perkiness that some find charismatic but I find it to be a little too much. She seems a bit contrived and trying a little too hard to be upbeat and folksy. It has a comedic quality like a caricature of mid westerner in a David Lynch or Coen bothers film.
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Beeboppin711 year, 1 month ago
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***** Palin Flashback *****
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Does anyone remember this jewel from the well known Alaskan Poet?
"On the Bailout"
Ultimately,
What the bailout does
Is help those who are concerned
About the health care reform
That is needed
To help shore up our economy,
Helping the—
It's got to be all about job creation, too.
Shoring up our economy
And putting it back on the right track.
So health care reform
And reducing taxes
And reining in spending
Has got to accompany tax reductions
And tax relief for Americans.
And trade.
We've got to see trade
As opportunity
Not as a competitive, scary thing.
But one in five jobs
Being created in the trade sector today,
We've got to look at that
As more opportunity.
All those things.
- Sarah Palin
To view more of Palin's Poetry visit http://www.slate.com/id/2201342/pagenum/all/#p2
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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What if Schwarzenegger gave an interview in front of a porn flick being produced?
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Porn is a leading Calif. industry. It's a fact of life,so why would anyone raise an eyebrow?
Why not have Palin do her next interview from an outhouse? Now that's "earthy".
"Why those darned "libs", everyone takes a dump, why shouldn't we see it on TV?"
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td08111 year, 1 month ago
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How ironic. The same people who are outraged by the practice of turkey farming are willing to vote into office an individual who is willing to negotiate with islamo-fascists who are the benefactors of terrorists that videotape the beheadings of innocent civilians.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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The usual suspects proving once again they don't understand even the simplest of issues. This isn't about turkey farms. If you can't understand that, I can not help you. But do America and the world a great favor and stay out of voting booths.
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td08111 year, 1 month ago
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You have not written anything that would contribute to a fair and honest discussion. You simply posted a topic in order to take cheap shots at your opponent. When I vote, the first thing I think about is how a spineless coward like you would vote, and then I vote the exact opposite. Also, be careful not to kick your opponent too hard when they are on the ground, the universe possesses a unique way of restoring equilibrium.
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frctm51 year, 1 month ago
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The Palin bashing has gone too far, but conservatives can hardly take the moral high ground. Fact is all they live for is to whine about liberals. Take this away from them, and they don't have a theme in life. Conservatives were complaining about Clinton and blaming problems on him six years into the Bush administration. If we follow their model, we should continue to bash Bush well into Obama's second term. But the truth of the matter is, I don't see a need for that. I think it is best to put Bush out of our minds and get busy with the future now that we have one. Meanwhile, Republicans can stew in the bitterness of their disillusionment. The Reagan revolution is dead and no, you are not the party of ideas, morality, or competent government. You are not even the party that is strong on foreign policy.
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