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    slate1 year, 1 month ago

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    Never said you had an idoctrination program. All I want is everyone to finally live their private sexuality in private as it should be.

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      frctm51 year, 1 month ago

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      I agree with you that sexuality should not be on parade in public. I am no prude, but I find it annoying when two people are too intimate in public whether gay or straight. However, I think the notion that homosexuality is fine as long as it is hidden from the public view is not the proper way to deal with this issue. As long as people, gay or straight, are discreet and respectful of others while they are in public, they should not have to hide the nature of their relationship or fear retribution because of it. When you are straight, it is easy to take for granted that you can go most anywhere and not live in fear because of your sexual orientation. Imagine having to approach every person in your life and wonder whether or not this will be an issue for them or whether you can live your life comfortably and in the open. If gays and lesbians can get mainstream acceptance, our society can put this issue behind us and begin working on more important matters. I think its high time we get past this issue that some people are less human than others for matters of race, gender, or sexual orientation. None of these qualities should determine whether this person is good or bad.

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        david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago

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        I think some of the younger gay crowd fails to understand the historic significance behind the pride rallies and parades of our past. We put on those gala events in part to show the straight world that we refuse to retreat to the safety of our closets. We intend to remain vigilant and expressive of who we are in order to secure our rights. If that makes you feel uncomfortable, then take notice. Many of those drag queens fought for civil rights to break down the closet doors. I too would love to see the NEED for them to come to an end. This applies to almost all the parades, except Mardi Gras. That is just way too much fun for all.

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          frctm51 year, 1 month ago

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          I think you misinterpreted my comment. I am not making a literal reference to parades. I understand fully the need for political activism and self celebration and pride. I am referring to the daily actions of individuals in everyday life and don't express a standard that is different for either gay or straight. Personally, I don't find it pleasant when people start making out in public. Modest displays of affection such as holding hands, a hug, or an occasional peck on the lips is one thing, but when it becomes a protracted display, my thinking is always "get a room!". This has nothing to do with sexual orientation but decorum.

          For the record, I am not gay, but my father was and my sister is. I live in San Francisco and I have attended gay parties, been at gay weddings, and been to a few of the gay freedom day parades to show my support. I am not saying gays are more inclined toward public acts of intimacy than straights. In fact, I would say they are even less inclined to do so. There is nothing scientific about that observation but i rarely witness two gays in public doing much more than holding hands. My comment is that sexual intimacy should be performed in private whether it is gay, straight or somewhere in the middle. I would include in that definition all the heavy petting and kissing that leads up to this stage. I am not referring to casual displays of affection.

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            david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago

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            On all of your comments, we definitely agree.

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              frctm51 year, 1 month ago

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              Thank you David. I am a strong proponent of the notion that the freedom that others achieve in their struggles for dignity and equal treatment frees all of us. I hope some day that the stigma of homosexuality is lifted and all the energy that was squandered on irrational fears and prejudices can be applied to more constructive and meaningful pursuits. We have enough problems that we face collectively as a people not to stray down paths that have no promise and are a dead end. The more we learn to celebrate our differences and recognize our common interests, we will continue to evolve as a society and fulfill the promise of America.

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            hamy1 year, 1 month ago

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            Remember, the first steps toward equality?

            The police in New York would raid the gay bars almost nightly and arrest the patrons of that establishment and then print their names and photographs in the newspaper the next day. Usually the patrons would go peacefully and do anything to try and keep their names out of the paper and sometimes they were beaten into submission by the police.

            One night, (it happened to be the anniversary of the death of Judy Garland) a group of drag queens were being arrested in the nightclub Stonewall. They decided that they weren't going to take it any more.

            They started to fight back. They picked up a rock and threw it at the police who were beating someone in the street. Others from inside the club came out and joined. It was the first time that gay people realized that they didn't deserve to be arrested and beaten for being who they are. That we aren't any less human because of who we love.

            That one act of pride is the reason that those parades happen. It is the reason that AIDS/HIV advocacy happened. It is the reason that the President Elect was able to say the word "gay" during his victory speech.

            If other presidents had the balls to say it, maybe we wouldn't have to fight anymore.

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            slate1 year, 1 month ago

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            I don't want them to 'hide', holding hands and being affectionate is ok for anyone. But the overt sexualness turns me off, no matter who does it. I care little for the girls gone wild in public as I do the gays go wild in public crowd. Have a respect for others, often children are watching.

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              frctm51 year, 1 month ago

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              I think we are on the same page. I agree.

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