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Radiofreeeuropa1 year ago

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What little is left of it.

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  lfergie8121 year ago
  
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  Good find RFE. I've been saying all along that the reason that Bush and the Republicans don't want to give the auto industry a loan is to break the unions. They want to reduce everyone to minimum wage and what people don't realize is that if the unions go, even those that don't work for a union will lose wages too. Only the fear of an organized union make the companies pay their employees well because with a large unemployed labor force, the companies will have the upper hand.
  
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      ETproductions1 year ago
      
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      There is certainly blame to go around, but the lion's share of the blame for this financial crisis lies with GWB and the Republican confidence that deregulation automatically makes everything better all the time.
      
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        Radiofreeeuropa1 year ago
        
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        How is it that the size of government DOUBLED under Reagan?
        He was a republican after all, right? Apparently there is a complete disconnect between the rhetoric which you like to hear and the reality that actually occurs.
        
        How does iatcnc explain why the size of government doubled again under Bush and a republican house and senate if the democrats are to blame?
        
        It is bogus and insulting as well as incredibly myopic and downright un-American to suggest that the majority of Americans "have deep seeded contempt for all things American". The trickle down voodoo economics that Republicans have tauted since Reagan have OBVIOUSLY failed. DEREGULATION has failed.
        These are the ideologiesof which party?
        
        The Democrats are no saints by and large, but it's hard to pin this crapola on them. And if President Obama does not do the job I voted for him to do, I promise I will admit it and criticize just as harshly as someone who didn't support him.
        That seems to be the major difference between those who describe themselves as republicans and democrats. Many Republicans just refuse to look at what their party has actually done and choose to keep repeating rhetoric from bygone eras that have no bearing on reality today.
        
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        ETproductions1 year ago
        
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        iatcnc wrote: "The democrats are just as much to blame, and I think they all need to remember that they won't be able to blame the republicans anymore."
        
        That's the one thing you said that rings true. That and the point that Congressman Frank did think that Fannie and Freddie were fine.
        
        Democrats have pulled their share of bone-headed tricks. They darn well better take a lesson from the current Republican melt down and clean up their act. If they bring the economy under control, fix the dying health care industry, revitalize American competitiveness, polish our tarnished standing in the eyes of the world and fix our broken education system they will stay in control for some time.
        
        But they can't let things stay as bad as they are now and just constantly blame Republicans. The Republicans have been in control now for most of the years since WWii. They must accept the lions share of the blame for the crisis we are in now. If they refuse to acknowledge that their ideology is at fault, and continue to preach those same failed policies that made such a mess, they will continue to slide into a marginal force in American politics. At some point, we'll need a viable third party to keep progressives honest.
        
        It will be interesting to see what happens to each party in the next 8 years.
        
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        ETproductions1 year ago
        
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        We're not that far apart. But the line item veto is unconstitutional, and the answer to better governance is not making the executive branch a monarchy.
        
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        DarkWizard1 year ago
        
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        iatcnc,
        
        For someone that claims he didn't vote for Bush or McCain you sure sound like the Neocon poster boy. I'd almost say that you could run for political office as a Neocon faithful as all of your talking points are directly out of the Republican handbook.
        
        "If more peole bought Ford, GM, and chrysler istead of Toyota, Honda, and VW (Saab, Volvo, and Prius for all you liberals). We wouldn't be having this conversation."
        
        You probably don't remember the gas shortage of the late 70's but that is where the downfall of the auto industry began. Foreign cars were better made, cost less, and didn't breakdown every 6 months. So, now it's the American's fault for buying foreign cars. The American auto maker was arrogant and insisted that Americans would buy their product (because it's American) over foreign products that were more reliable, efficient, and cost effective. Yes, it is the entire stupid American's fault (which must all be Democrats too!) for making a good business decision.
        
        Way to show your powers of logic once again! Now, I see that you are not only clueless about politics, but economics can be added to the list. I'd suggest you take your own advice and "educate" yourself (spell check too).
        
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        DarkWizard1 year ago
        
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        iatcnc,
        
        I feel sorry for you. I used to be a Republican until they became the Whack Job Party and started appealing to a new base. I wouldn't expect you to understand as you have been indoctrinated into your beliefs at an early age and you don't know what you don't know.
        
        As for the gas shortage being 30 years ago...you must understand that events in the past shape the path of the future. Your limited perspective tells you that 30 years was a long time ago when really it was the blink of an eye.
        
        Your assumptions about me being a liberal, hating all things American or reading the publications you named are all incorrect, but irrelevant to any real talking points about the issues. You grasp at straws and sarcastically state, "I don't know wiz, your just to smart for me," but keep missing the desired target.
        
        However, I will continue to comment on your posts as long as you remain here. I find it quite enjoyable.
        
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      awongscreen1 year ago
      
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      There is nothing wrong with people receiving wages above the minimum. Only capitalists who own these corporations want to have all employees working with, or below, minimum wages.
      
      It is true that the consumer is paying for employees earning above minimum wages. Consumers have a choice to buy products from low costs countries. The consequence in doing that is to send employment out of the country. Now you have the situation of corporations making money while the people get unemployed as a result of free trade and globalisation. This is the ugly situation we are seeing now.
      
      To be fair to your comment, there are workers getting high wages without actually contributing to the operation. This is waste and I agree with you that this is the portion consumers should not be paying for. But again, waste is not limited to workers. It goes right up to senior management.
      
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    xddy4u21 year ago
    
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    Ifergie812, You are so RIGHT ON. Even the CEOs crying for a bail out, are trying to get what they
    couldn't get Bargaining, cutting Retires Benefits. Those scumbags never let up. Then you have those minimum wage SLAVES bashing Unions. If they knew what unions are all about, every job in this Country would be unionized. The jerks doesn't realize that the more union Dues you pay, the more you make an hour, because Union Dues are only 2.5 hours a month. If your Dues are 65.00 a month, that means you are making 25.00 an hour. Not bad pay. Wake up you Working Slaves, UNIONIZE.
    
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        sumptuousdigs1 year ago
        
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        With a bankruptcy they would have to list their assets.
        
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        sumptuousdigs1 year ago
        
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        Well...isn't THAT special?
        
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