The night we waved goodbye to America...our last best hope on Earth »
Posted By RedRiverJ 1 year ago in NewsAnyone would think we had just elected a hip, skinny and youthful replacement for God, with a plan to modernise Heaven and Hell; or that at the very least John Lennon had come back from the dead.
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RedRiverJ1 year ago
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year ago
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''begun the long slow descent into the Third World.''
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couple of points:
what characterizes the 'third world'? The vast majority of the wealth is in the hands of very few
this process began a long time ago, way before Obama and accelerated in recent years
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it might have helped if that acceleration wasn't hastened and facilitated by ACTUAL 'descent' into the Third World when our military aircraft landed over there
as for 'last best hope on earth' ?
...tripe
as a bible believer you should now that
mankind as a whole is a self-destructive organism, the earth is the realm of the wicked, those that are ruled by desire, who prefer having to being, etc etc
there is no hope for the earth...only hope for individuals who find personal fulfillment thru living good lives
take heart tho: its a slow process, the self-debasement of mankind and the destruction of the earth
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StevieGee1 year ago
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Funny, this article talks a lot about how the country is now. It's pretty bad. Segregation is as bad as before MLK. Washington DC the most segregated city in the US. It points out some legitimate problems. These are all a creation of the current neo-con administrations intolerence. I would suggest, Red, that if you want to wave goodbye, maybe Paraguay because that's where a lot of your nazi brethren have found haven.
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memestryker1 year ago
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I watched a recent history of the Great Depression, and at the time, leaders of other countries were chortling to the press that they had been the cause of America's demise, and showed contempt for the U.S., even after it had participated in WWI.
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Hatred for the U.S. is absolutely nothing new. The French were angry we didn't give them more, since they were the ones who came to our aid in our revolution against the British. We named a bridge in Washington DC for Rochambeau and a park for Lafayette. The British were angry they lost the tax base.
People who self-select for national leadership roles have a lust for power--they have to, or they wouldn't go to all that trouble. They are highly competitive, but different in how they express it. And that applies to leaders worldwide.
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stephen-johnson1 year ago
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Of the 65 million or so people who voted for Obama, relatively few of them worship at his feet. Most people voted for him because they felt that he was a better choice than McCain.
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Contrary to the analysis offered by some on the left, the past election wasn't a realignment. Rather, it's part of the cyclical political shift from Republican to Democrat. A realignment isn't likely when a candidate who wasn't well regarded by his base got 46% of the popular vote. Nor is it likely when another candidate got less than 53% of the vote despite an unpopular president of the opposing party, an unpopular war, a financial "crisis" and a news media that was in his hip pocket.
Hitchens needs to take a chill pill and see how the Obama presidency plays out. Obama can't run for higher office now (unless he plans to run for Messiah) - he has to do something in the one he will have on Jan 20 next year.-
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Georgia501 year ago
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Agreed and well said. I'm not going out of my way to hear anything O has to say, but I did catch a clip of him stating that his economic plan is not merely to deal with immediate concerns, but the long-term economical vitality of the nation. No doubt we conservatives will quibble over how he intends to do that, but conceptually speaking, staying focused on the long-term is a good sign.
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I don't read much into the whole Clinton thing. Most seasoned Crats in DC cut their teeth as Clintonistas. Basically the upper echelon of Team Clinton supported Hillary. It was their underlings who decided to take a chance on Obama, and their risk paid off. Those are mostly the Clintonites we're talking about, Hillary being the exception.
And he's given us a market guy at Treasury. That's a good sign. Obama is not choosing stooges and idiots, he seems to be gonig for the can-do crowd, and this conservative would much rather have can-do liberals than can't-do conservatives any day. So for now I'm perfectly willing to sit back and watch the show and see what can be accomplished.
Besides, if we're on the cusp of losing hundred of thousands of jobs before things straighten out, the knife is going to cut both ways: liberals and conservatives. I extrapolate from that that we should all pick our battles wisely and give cooperation a fighting chance. -
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ls2631 year ago
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Somehow I could care less what some right-wing conservative Brit thinks of our country or how we do things or who we elect as president. We are a free nation. We had the Revolutionary War to get rid of these guys. He needs to worry about his own country's affairs and leave ours alone. Who needs to hear from a British Bigot. We got enough of our own.
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HannibalBarca1 year ago
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Well when that country can send their troops to bled and die in Iraq and Afgan; suck it up.
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They have every right to have an opinion.
And my hats off to Sarah and McC, though I did not agree with their politics, they at least could not be criticized for their and their children's active roles in these conflicts, just like Pince Harry.
To bad those occupying the WH didn't have it in them to do the same. -
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djsmooveal11 year ago
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It's really sad when people take it upon themselves too bash a man w/o even giving him a chance. All you closed minded idiots please get passed the color barrier and give the man a chance. We've had 43 presidents all have been white/european/ whatever. Now finally we have a half black president who haven't even been sworn in and all of you are assuming the worst. This only shows your true colors, because I followed Obama and I don't recall him bashing anyone racially, or singling out any particular group of people. It's America people we all occupy the same space so get over yourselves. Lastly I hope everyone on here that is commenting voted; b/c if you didn't then shut up!!
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rm0926571 year ago
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I am not all that much into politics ,but i, as an american,am tired of working my butt off only to have some politician waste my money on his own little pet peaves and perks!!! If OBAMA cares about the "working man or woman" like he says,lets let him prove it. to think something will happen overnight is unrealistic! black or white doesn't matter. what does matter is "GREEN" boys and girls! what have we got to lose? signed "A HARD WORKING AMERICAN MAN"
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HannibalBarca1 year ago
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Nah; you need to wake up, and start using your head more than just keeping your ears apart.
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He did prove his birth, and if you compare his and McC's platforms, after you get by all the name calling you will see that the biggest diff these two men had was health care, everything else was very similar. -
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Calypso5611 year ago
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Just wait til you wake up one morning and realize this country has become socialist or worse communist at the hands of this unknown. No one even knows for sure if he's a U.S. born citizen. Why is he hiding his birth certificate? Why? Just show it to us and prove one way or the other that what country you were born in. YES!!! We DID wave good-bye to America on 11-4-08.
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gristruse1 year ago
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It is getting hilarious.. the repukists still claiming that Obama is not U.S.born citizen, mmmmmmmm so now Hawaii is a foreign country... but always never bring to the sufface that old Mccoot was born in Panama...
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If a child was born overseas, and one of his parents is an American citizen, he/she is considered American also... all bastard children of overseas troops are considered Americans also.. as long as they have proof... it seems the world was given a good thing when DNA tests came into existance... -
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djsmooveal11 year ago
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Well if you really feel that way why don't you and your family or all who feel this way pack up and move to another country. I have to agree though we said goodbye to the old tired America ran by other men; Some of which you could stomach a little better IM SURE, but I understand a strong ,powerful, intelligent, honorable black man might be a little hard to stomach. I said hello to a new America on 11/04/2008. HELLO AMERICA!!! Oh by the way since electing Obama has been so bad for the economy; uhh, how much are you paying for gas now; I just paid $1.37 per gal. I think the world should be thanking God Obama was elected PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. OK and it's AMERICA; not white america, not black america, not asian america, not hispanic america........ just plan old/ NEW AMERICA.
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ls2631 year ago
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I could care less what a right-wing conservative Brit thinks of the US or who we elect. He needs to mind his own country's affairs and leave ours alone. We had the Revolutionary War to get his country off our backs. We never have been like them nor do we choose to be. We are mavericks as John McCain would say. We have enough right-wing, conservative bigots of our own. I for one won't lose any sleep over this British man's opinion.
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HannibalBarca1 year ago
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Liked the first half of the letter, but the second half has nothing to do with the first half, all it is is his personal political stand..
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And I disagree with him.
Like him, I started in the oil drilling business 33 years ago, but unlike him, I work 80 hrs/week, 15 days on a 6 off, started my own business and no word of a lie, on one problem well was awake and working 24 hours a day for 4 days, I also went into the bush, 200 miles from a sizable town (over 5,000 pop) on Dec.26 and came out 89 days later, and yes I was talking to the animals, but my politics and his are 180 degrees apart.
A persons work ethic has nothing to do with politics, otherwise explain all the firsts those godless commies have had, like sputnik, first man in space, first woman, first space walk, all the Nobel prises they won. -
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4thchance1 year ago
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Well, Cory better hope the mainstream media doesn't catch wind of him or "Cory the Well Driller" will be destroyed by the left wing media. The Democrats will be spending our tax $ to investigate Cory, looking to find some dirt on him so they can ruin his life, like they did to poor Joe the plumber.
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What lesson did we learn from the Joe the plumber thing...
NEVER ASK A DEMOCRAT LEADER ANY QUESTION THEY ARE NOT WELL REHEARSED ON ANSWERING AND OR, NEVER PUT A DEMOCRAT LEADER ON THE SPOT OR YOUR AZZ IS DEAD MEAT, YOUR LIFE WILL BE DESTROYED FOR DOING SO!
THAT'S THE NEW AMERICA WE LIVE IN, SO GET USE TO IT. THERE'S MUCH MORE OF THAT KIND OF CRAP COMING...SO STAY TUNED!
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djsmooveal11 year ago
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Let me just say that if Obama doesn't do his job well trust me the media will be there to drill it in our heads and say I told you so; contrary to that I would ask that everyone open your heart and mind and allow him to do his jobwithout all this negativity. Historically all the presidents have made big big mistakes, used poor judgment, been involved in scandle's and so on.....Do ya think Obama is above all that; he's not, he is a man, a human just like the others. How many of you lost faith in America under George Bush mmmmm...How many of you were afraid to fly after 911 mmmmmm....How many of you lost or almost lost your home mmmmm..... How many of you out there have no healthcare ins.mmmmmm.... But we stood behind our President. I pray Obama is given the same respect.
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4thchance1 year ago
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djsmooveal1 says...
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"I would ask that everyone open your heart and mind and allow Obama to do his job without all this negativity"
And I say...you are joking right?
Obama better not even think of stepping out of line or making any mistakes at all. Or he will be treated just like Bush has been treated. He's toast the first time he does one tiny thing wrong. Heeeheehee...!!! -
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memestryker1 year ago
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I don't pray to a deity, since I'm a nontheist, but I do hope Obama is effective in leading the executive branch and working with the legislative branch to solve difficult problems we face.
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I'm also a pragmatist, so I've never been high on emotion before, during, or after the election. Excuse me if I don't join you in your happy dance.
I'll be looking for results, myself, and trying to stop train-wrecks that may occur as a result of some of his more wrong-headed policy. My concern is that he may have moved too far to the right on some issues, and stayed too far to the left on others.
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gristruse1 year ago
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What is it with repukist fear club joiners.... they seem to think Obama has replaced Bushie on Nov. 4 and now in charge insead of Jan 20/09........... these twits are so ignorant, that can't even figure out how government works... if anything happens to America from the white House before January 20th.. it will still be Bushies "decisions" of stupidity.. no Obama's...
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I could care less what a right-wing conservative Brit thinks of the US or who we elect. He needs to mind his own country's affairs and leave ours alone. We had the Revolutionary War to get his country off our backs. We never have been like them nor do we choose to be. We are mavericks as John McCain would say. We have enough right-wing, conservative bigots of our own. I for one won't lose any sleep over this British man's opinion.
----------LOL AND DON'T FORGET NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE OF BRITISH BLOOD.. NO ENGLISH BLOOD IN ME.. 3/4 NORWEIGAN AND 1/4 GERMAN... AS IS SAID AMONG US.. JA SHURE...OG ENGELSK DOBBEL DØR TULLING -
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NoWayMan1 year ago
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just more sour grapes from the sore losers and racists.
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and america started its downward slide the moment democracy was compromised and dubya was handed the presidency back in 2000. anyone with a brain stem knows that.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year ago
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This is as unpatriotic a piece of drivel, as was ever posted by a loser putting hate for the part of their country they disagreed with, ahead of the love of the country itself.
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Peter Hitchens is a dreary English gad-fly who is forever telling the world it is doomed because it does not worship Peter Hitchens.
If a liberal posted the equivalent type of nonsense about our current President, - RedRiverJ would be on it with all the USA flags in China , shouting 'treason'!
Their insistance that Obama supporters 'worship' him, sine-waves with the assurance that Obama's supporters are leaving him.
For the record: it is not the man, it is what we want the man to do. The treasonous attitude of subserviance RedRiverJ and fellow neocons gave bush/cheney for years, was indeed a pathetic sight;
We Americans have the ambition to do better. -
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greenmac1 year ago
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RedR .... how can you possibly criticize Obama and worship Bush. The former is getting his act together, when he assumes the position of power, he will be ready to attempt the repairs needed to put the country back on course. The repairs needed, to fix the damage done by the Bush administration.
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RedRiverJ1 year ago
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The mess we are in is due to a democratic controlled congress and the man in charge of Fannie and Freddie is a democrat Barney Frank. He lied to the world when, 3 months before he claimed freddie and fannie to be solid. He should have seen this coming.
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Bush should have done more. If you think I am not disappointed and frustrated with him think again.
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br0ckdar0ck1 year ago
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All I know...
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is that Barack Hussein (his middle name) Obama
is pathetic. His followers all want "EQUALITY AND TOLERANCE"
**** that... if the 97% of black voters were not racist he would have never even won this election. If he didn't promise poor people they will be rich, and black people they will be free, and even dumbass white people that they will be changed... if that had happened it would have been an election for equality. But instead it was an election that sent America into not a depression but a mourning. A mourning for a country that was founded by great men that died to let others live. By men who stood death in the face and told it to **** off. By men like George Washington who said, "I love the sound of bullets flying by my ears."
OYEAH... but Barack Hussein Obama (what a terrorist name)... he has been in the senate for just over 200 hundred days... never even held a gun in war... and now we (excuse me... they) have elected him to be OUR COUNTRY's president???
It is a sad world we live in.
We Will Never Forget... The 2008 Election.
Ps. don't forget... Obama could easily send this country into GLOBAL depression... and send us to the triublation... and
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (the terrorist) could be the Anti-Christ (email me and I will prove it).-
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StevieGee1 year ago
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Obama's middle name is Hussein? Wow!!! I didn't know!!! Man, I must have missed that the last 200 times you cons said that!!! That would have changed my vote for sure. I also heard he's a Muslim. Is that true? Boy I really screwed up. Why didn't you guys say so. Dang!!
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You are an idiot.
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ind061 year ago
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You know, I already said this before the election, but apparently it bears repeating.
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It doesn't bother me so much that Peter Hitchens would think that the election of a president would spell the "end of America". He's a Brit and like most of the rest of the world probably scratches his head at our regular change of leadership.
They don't get it.
Our founders, with their innate distrust of tyrannical centralized government, designed a system that no one man can destroy.
Three branches, we're all taught it from grade school. Three separate but equal branches. And above them all, a constitution that provides for change through the amendment process. Our government is strong because it is flexible, it can grow and change with the times.
But, not without great effort, and not without agreement among the branches.
As it should be.
And now I hear that the election of a president, which we've done again and again is to be our very doom.
The end of America?
BAH!
Wave goodbye to America?
PAH!
This country isn't going anywhere. It is a strong nation, it has survived calamity and crisis and destruction and brother at brother's throat and yet HERE IT STANDS.
Barack Obama, even if he wanted to (and he does not) could not destroy this country. Even with the help of a willing Congress it could not be done. (and there is no such willing Congress)
I understand that some Brit who only has an academic sense of America, not a visceral, lived sense might think this is so. But, to see actual Americans sign on to the idea that our nation is so weak, so pathetic that a single man can topple it, is really beyond my understanding.
We survived the Great Depression
We survived the Civil War
We survived the burning of our capital to the ground in the War of 1812
We survived Pearl Harbor
We survived 9/11
WE SURVIVE
You have no faith in this country's strength, nor in it's resilience, nor in our very form of government itself if you think electing a president is to be our end.
Electing a President is the exercise of democracy.
The exercise of Democracy is not our weakness, it is our GREATEST STRENGTH, it is the physical manifestation of the freedom we celebrate in word and song and in our very hearts.
You demean the nation, the very idea, the very CONCEPT of America when you cry out an election is our end.
Collect yourselves, take a breath and repeat after me
America will not lose its place in the world because of participatory democracy.
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Tcaros1 year ago
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RedRiver or Redneck-River?
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You're probably from the good ole communist republic of Texas.
Boy, it sure chapped your hide that McCain lost. hahaha
I bet you're still wishing you could have 4 more years of Bush's farts in your face.
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Spadecaller1 year ago
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t is amazing how anyone can be that screwed up to post a story like this.
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I'm friendly with a couple of people on TrustServe, I can no longer stomach the ignorant and inflammatory articles that are posted there on a regular basis. Despite the fact I know a few people who frequent the site, the kind of article that I see here is typical for the front page crap that is regularly posted there.
I try to respect the rights of others to believe differently. But these stories do not respect those of us who support Obama, those of us who are more progressive, or those of us who are true conservatives who will show respect for ANY American regardless of their race and politics. This is not the case for these people.
AS most of you who know me, I do not prop stores like this. I do not believe in encouraging this kind of discussion, as I see it borderlines on the person who screams fire in a crowded theater.
Dialogue and articles that incite hatred often attract the maniacs who will one day be willing to pull the trigger on the targets of their bigotry. Most Americans -- including conservatives, are willing and committed in showing their support of their new president-elect, and have no desire to stand around like hyenas waiting for him to trip so they can thrust their teeth into him and pull him down.
I have never been one who would relish calling anyone unpatriotic, but this article and many of the people like Red River J are driven more by their hatred for their fellow Americans and their targets of bigotry than they are because of their loyalty to this country. They are fundamentalists and ideologues who care more about their agendas than our common interests as Americans.
They are like dinosaurs at the beginning of the ice ages - desperate and afraid. -
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