The Illogical House Election Results »
Posted By Shana4Liberty 1 year, 1 month ago in Political NewsIt was widely publicized that Congress had very low approval ratings coming into the election. According to these polls , it has been hovering between 15% and 20%.
So, with these low approval ratings, how did they fare?
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berkeley1 year, 1 month ago
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the republicans and democrats have a lock on campaign money, the primary system, and on the method of counting votes. independents and third-party candidates could improve their chances by supporting
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http://rangevoting.org/
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
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Thanks shana, a very pertinent article. And telling about the voter. Range voting Berkley is a good idea but it would take a Constitutional Convention which I'm in favor of, but since the requirement for a Constitutional Convention has been met and no action to recognize the petition has happened after repeated requests, then Congress who were re-elected almost totally, has no need to follow the will of the people. And they won't.
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Anyone who has read much of anything I have written over the last two years should know that I've been asking for three things:
1) A forming of an Independent Coalition ( a coalition of the 135 Independent parties to form a coalition to take the White House, and get 20% of Congress. With this configuration we could force living by the Constitution.
2) Voting against every Incumbent possible. That means my Representatives, Senators, and who ever occupies the White House. I did my part this year. Obviously a lot didn't. "If you always do, what you always did, you always get, what you always got." Never forget that.
3) Never again vote for the Republican Party. They had their chance the first 6 years of the Bush Administration. Instead of doing good for the American people they used their power to attempt to subjugate the people. They need to be consigned to the dust bin of history. Let this be a warning to the Democrats and the next party in power. Let them know that they work for you, and you're going to fire them - permanently. -
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WHampton1 year, 1 month ago
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Yah lets let Congress do the will of the people and drill baby drill. The people are about 70% in favor of that you know. Most people are not happy with live and partial birt abortion either maybe we can resoleve that issue. Gosh, we may even do something about illegal aliens too! So lets let Congress get busy and pump up that favorable rating, what say you? Do you have something in mind you would like Congress to do?
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Harbeas1 year, 1 month ago
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I have had a problem for a long time with the total lack of intelligence with the American voters. They come to blows when you talk of presidential elections and totally ignore the most important races of all. The race for senate and house seats. This is where the real power lies. Not in the president but in the congress. If you want to change this government do so through the congress not the oval office. Continue to vote out of office the senators and representatives until they begin to listen to you. And for heavens sake through out those idiotic term limits. If a politician is doing a lousy job why are you going to give him/her a second term!
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frctm51 year, 1 month ago
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I believe that the unhappiness with congress was born of gridlock. This problem has been solved. With the party that cares about the working class in power, we should expect some progress on all fronts. The conservatives will be swooping overhead like vultures waiting for every opportunity to pounce but their own arrogance and self delusion has thrown their party into self exile. Their credibility is shot. Fanaticism has a tendency to do that. All they can do now is hope that Obama will be a failure. What they don't get is none of use think Obama is the Messiah. That is their assessment, not ours and a reflection of their state of denial and cynicism, and we understand its going to take time to turn things around. They will be disappointed in our lack of disappointment. Aside from that, I have not felt more motivated to help this administration succeed and I think this feeling is shared in many quarters. One of the intangibles of politics is the inspiration factor. Obama will inspire others to do good and this becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. It has nothing to do with being a messiah, just a refreshing change of pace when we have a leader in office who respects our intelligence, our welfare and genuinely gives a crap about the American people and the American dream. Mistakes will be made, but in the end, success is all but a forgone conclusion. Despite the condition of the economy, I haven't felt this optimistic in a long time. All the whining and negativity by conservatives is just a source of amusement for me.
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pokydoke1 year, 1 month ago
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Well said frctm5. You explained it quite succinctly. I particularly liked the part about only the cons think we hold Obama as the Messiah. I couldn't agree more, Obama isn't even in office yet and they have doomed him to failure. What are they going to do when we succeed?
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Harbeas1 year, 1 month ago
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This is our real problem when it comes to party politics. The gridlock is created by both parties not by one alone. They all want to advance their own agenda and forget about the people they represent. I have always tried to vote for the person I thought woulddo the best job of representing my interests, regardless of what party they belonged to. It is a crime that there are too few of them in either party.
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truthiness1 year, 1 month ago
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this demonstrates, fairly clearly, the problem with the two party system... if my only other choice is someone who stands for something I disagree with, I'm going to vote for party I agree with more.
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since we all register to vote as members of a party (most not choosing non-partisan), they are able to gerrymander the districts to keep themselves in control.
this means that most of the lobby money comes to them, which means they can buy more advertising time.
if the other parties had equal time people would learn that the Libertarian and Constitutional Parties speak to the Conservative base, and the Green party speaks to liberal base. then people would learn that there are more viable choices available to them.
if they began to get elected, congress would have to form coalitions to get majority votes, which would limit this adversarial, us or them, mentality that prevents real, issue oriented debate.
of course the alternate parties are partially to blame for pursuing a fifty state program rather than trying to focus their resources on one or two states where they have a legitimate chance and then expanding from there.
if americans want to see real change, we should push fopr third parties to get elected to congress in 2010-

WHampton1 year, 1 month ago
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I don't think third or fourth parties are going to help much. In France they do a party runoff. I think there are at least a dozen of them ranging from Greenies to Commies. I recall a few years back when Chirack (right-wing) was running against the Socialist Jospin. Jospin lost the runoff so it was between LePen (far right) and Chirack. Chirack won because all the Socialists, Commies, Greenies, etc were forced to vote for Chirack or get far-right LePen. Talk about slashing wrists on that one.
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President Sarkozy won the last election using LePen's far right ideas. Everyone wanted "Change" from the ingrained Socialist agenda. Problem is no one wanted Sarkozy to change their piece of the action. It is indeed a tough job to take the pacifier out of the baby's mouth once it is in there. Makes me wonder how many years it will take to undo the socialist damage the Democrats are going to push through over the next few years.
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WHampton1 year, 1 month ago
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Not a bad idea if you look at it that way. The problem is money, we would sure have to revise that to an equal basis. The lib media is going to be a problem without equal coverage. One thing certain, debate on several subjects went out the window in this election. Obama's was "Change" and "8 years of Bush". I think McCain's campaign manager was a Democrat, or maybe McCain was the Democrat. I wanted to throw stuff at the TV when McCain gave the Dems a sub-prime pass on the real reason our economy tanked. Not one name not one word.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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And people have to stop with the "socialism ooh scary " stuff. America has had a degree of socialism since it's inception. The very act of collecting a tax of any kind is socialism. The military is paid for through socialism. Even before there was an actual government, people pooled resources for the common good. The ONLY viable form of governing historically has been a hybrid. Remember friends, Socialists hated FDR for saving capitalism, and the far left thought he was a fascist for advocating government - industry co operation.
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Had the anti trust laws and oversights of the New Deal not been dismantled we would not be in the spot we are in today.
Some degree of socialism is a quantum necessity to offset capitalism's inevitable rich get richer-poor get poorer end game. without oversights, all capital eventually ends up in the hands of the very few, most often the few who had the most at the start.
Capitalism works, people like to own stuff and the U.S. is in no danger of totalitarian government ownership of everything. (Except through these bailouts, where we essentially reward poor management and swindling by removing the responsibility).
Even then, outright ownership by the US government is erroneous.
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WHampton1 year, 1 month ago
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I keep hearing over and over that now things are going to get done in Congress because the Repubicans are history. What I would really like to know is just exactly what these things they want done are? Lower taxes and free health care? What?
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muzluvprkchps1 year, 1 month ago
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Democrats voted in like Jack Murtha who call our troops cold blooded murderers, Barney Fwanks who quips that he sees nothing at all wrong to see any oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before his twinkle toe exec left him that is. The democrats don't seem to want to say a word about credit card debt and interest rates while bailing out billionaires and dancing to unions drumbeat. Another funny thing is you never hear a damn word about our grandchildrens grandchildren footing any bills anymore from the worried leftwingers. Pathetic doesn't even begin to explain the direction the way this country is headed under this socialist haze.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Murtha? didn't he say they were being used as thugs and murderers by Cheneybush? It's a different meaning you see. I have to laugh at the pre-action criticism. At least wait until they are actually in power and enacting bills before criticizing what they might do.
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Hopefully this is the last time (but I doubt it) that it needs to be pointed out.
But deficit spending-"grandchildrens grandchildren footing any bills" as you say'-
was championed by Reagan who DOUBLED the deficit accumulated by ALL previous administrations. As if that weren't enough evidence to dispell republicans false claims that they are fiscally responsible, Bush DOUBLED the Reagan debt. The only balanced budget submitted in at least a half century was Clinton's.
Republicans are terrible stewards of the economy by their own record.
Yet you believe the slogans, which are highly contrasted by actual records.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
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Seems I offered a solution. Form a Coalition party to get control of the White House and 20% of Congress. And never vote for a Republican again. Next thing I know we are all talking about drill baby drill.
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