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Posted By ameliog 1 year ago in NewsA Wal-Mart worker died after being trampled when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long Island store Friday morning, police and witnesses said.
The 34-year-old worker, employed as an overnight stock clerk, tried to hold back the unruly crowds just after the Valley Stream store opened at 5 a.m.
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GehlLady1 year ago
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No, ameliog. Imho, true Christmas has been lost for the most part. This is some kind of perversion. Christmas used to be when we slowed down, took time for neighbors, put aside differences. We'd cook for days, share with everyone, friends and strangers alike.
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orndorffter1 year ago
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GehLady;> How right you are,everybody and everythig are so fast like a rollacoaster,there is no time for neighbors, or time to put our differences a side, we used to cook for days at atime,but now we have no time to share with just about anyone anymore. instead of us controling our life our lives are controling us.and thats sad.
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nostalgia1 year ago
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Actually I think it shows you something about what our society is becoming - people are totally self centered. "I" and "Me" is more important than anything else even human life
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What "I" want regardless or whether "I" can afford it. "I" deserve it.
All the way to: What can the government do for "Me"
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Dionys1 year ago
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I agree up to the point of your "All the way to: What can the government do for "Me"" which just smacks of anti-liberal dogma. One could also look at it as "What can the government do to help those without, what can the government do to help 'them.'"
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ballarina3571 year ago
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I can't believe that these individuals were that crazed to not notice they were stepping one someone. It is one of the most sick events I have ever heard. Awful, selfish, selfish act. I hope there are charges pressed on every footprint made on each and everyone with murder. There has to be justice for this person and their families. I can't even fathom this.
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sxysweetpea18281 year ago
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Why do they even let these people continue to shop, if i was the store owner and something happened like that, I would shut my doors and no one would shop for anything....and if i was the only place in town that had your item, well... i guess you'll be paying full price tomorrow.
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jordan111 year ago
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Why do they even let these people continue to shop, if i was the store owner and something happened like that, I would shut my doors and no one would shop for anything>>>>
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Yes, it's bizarre. The whole damned thing is bizarre! The police should have sent a swat team in with tear gas, and cleared the place out! For crying out loud, a man was killed by a mob of crazies and they just let em shop.-
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CORVIDIVS1 year ago
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... says volumes for supply & demand...
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WELCOME... to the Real World, where we have been corralled[herded] into boxes and 90 day warranties,and campaign promises that last just as long - if ever.Welcome to the packaged reality that lets us sit back and be baby-sat while stories of mumbais and chechnias take a back set to the press orgy that is politics and its corollary interests (if not altogether spiked).Welcome to a world where cheap dramatizations supplant literature,but definitely 'succor' ever insistent wonts for SUPPLY & DEMAND.
And lest we forget what makes Walmart such a great place... it's the PEOPLE...
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gsmittle1 year ago
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At least one of the accounts I read mentioned that the employees & police were trying to close the store, but people were refusing to leave until they finished shopping. Some had to be forcibly ejected.
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StevieGee1 year ago
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This is Walmart. They don't close unless absolutely necessary. I'm sure that their main concerns were how long until we can get opened again, and what are we gonna have to pay in a death bennefit. I can almost hear them in Bentonville. Was he a temp? Tell me he's a temp.
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orndorffter1 year ago
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SteveieGee;> I don't no if he was a temp or not, but if I was his family,Walmart would pay dearly for his life being taken away in such a sort time when the doors opened. There should be a limit of people that shold go in and not all at once ,like a heard of cattle, I do know he volentired to work that day, he pribely needed the extra money. And Walmart should be extra wooried right now.
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Will13131 year ago
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On December 3, 1979 outside the Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, Ohio eleven people were killed and dozens were injured in a crush of people trying to get into the arena. Fans were waiting outside for a Who concert scheduled to take place that night.
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Thousands of fans (with first-come, first-served festival seating tickets) rished towards the locked doors when they mistook the band's sound check for the concert having started. People were trampled and crushed before the doors were unlocked. The Who went on to play that night, unaware of the tragedy outside.
After the tragedy Cincinnati put a ban on festival or general admission seating. That ban was only lifted once for a 2002 Bruce Springsteen concert and then on August 4, 2004 the ban was lifted totally by city councel, concerned that performers were skipping Cincinnati because they could not have general admission seating.
To prevent any problems, new rules limit the number of tickets (based on square footage of the concert location) and all the doors to the festival seating area will have to be opened two hours before the concert. Ushers and security personnel must be in place before the doors are opened, and a written evacuation plan is required.
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the NEXT night in Dayton Ohio,..... they were selling T-Shirts that read ...
"I'D WALK OVER YOU TO SEE THE WHO!!!"
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elteescat1 year ago
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And now that we have a black president.... I was in downtown Dayton tonight for the anual christmas tree-lighting and children's parade and was waiting in line for the carosell when a large group of black people separated and cut in line individually and specifically in front of separate white people and the one that cut in front of me threatened my baby!! Her exact words were "I'll knock over that stroller." And when I called for the police she told them I made it all up and called me a female dog 23 times. Welcome to Blamericka!!
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Sageparadox1 year ago
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You know. I have been in some pretty scarey mosh pits that got out of hand and people got trampled. Ive been in a Super Bowl riot with the tear gas and great mobs of people running all over the place. People got hurt, but no one died in any of those cases. To hear a person gets trampled to death working at a Walmart. This society is sickens me at times.
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nancerap1 year ago
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There is much blame to go around for this tragedy, not the least of which is the retailers who encourage this insanity with these "first come" limited-time offers. End black Friday. Also there was totally inadequate security, and from the sound of it, they never should have opened the doors, and should have called the national guard for crowd control instead!!
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injeri1 year ago
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I've been thinking that I should go to one of these early bird specials -- if not to buy, to see the people who would start shopping so early. Since I'm a nightowl I've never been able to get it together.
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Now I have no desire ever to go to one of these.
I know people can get caught up in the moment -- but to break down doors? To kill someone for a plasma TV? To knock down a pregnant woman?
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Natureboy1 year ago
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Its also a matter of conditioned behavior.
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There was one chain, now defunct, I think, that ran TV ads of people stampeding into the store for the fabulous deals.
Madison avenue has done a great job of creating mindless herd-beast consumers.-
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nostalgia1 year ago
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You were manipulated to be there in front of that crowd according to Natureboy
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"Its also a matter of conditioned behavior.
Madison avenue has done a great job of creating mindless herd-beast consumers."
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sumptuousdigs1 year ago
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Oh no you don't nostalgia! Plastic argument. By a plastic person.
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I'm supporting the economy, and attending a uniquely American cultural event.
As a red blooded American, I didn't produce the piece I was packin' and start shooting. Your thought process doesn't run deep enough not to shoot. It's good you stay at home in Arlington (aka: Mayberry). Keep an eye on the plants, OK?-
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nostalgia1 year ago
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"I'm supporting the economy, and attending a uniquely American cultural event."
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WOW! I guess Natureboy was correct and many Americans have fallen for the Madison Ave hype.
Black Friday is not "a uniquely American cultural event".
It is a creation of ad agencies. Too bad you are such a dupe that you fell for it
Are you that easily manipulated??
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mljubilee1 year ago
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It is sad... sometimes people need to stop and think. Are we really in that big of a hurry to save 10% on a gift for our kid?
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What exactly did this murder have to do with Jesus coming to earth to save humanity?
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cleoking13051 year ago
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You know Christmas in America means people rushing into the store like idiots to buy gifts for other idiots! These are the same people who crowd together in a building next to other idiots every Sunday and claim they love Jesus Christ. At the same time they are the ones that speed on the roads with their kids in the cars. This is nothing new. Christmas is not about acting like a jerk in these stores trying to get deals on crap you don't need. Most of the people who buy the stuff are then in my pawn shop the following months selling their things or pawning it off!
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starrsea99991 year ago
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It is horrifying to see your great country unravelling before your eyes....to trample a human being...to snuff out a life for a buck ???? I agree..they should have closed the store. Disgusting. I hope these 4 years go by quickley so we can recover soon. Barak O'drama....I like that one the best. He acts like a messiah not a polotical leader.
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dearbornite231 year ago
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WALMART should be held accountalbe! They fail to provide safe conditions for workers AND shoppers-this is not the first time it's happened. Yeah, the shoppers are jackasses and yeah if I could ID them on tape, I'll file charges against them-but WALMART would get top billing. And I bet they paid the worker so little, he, like a good portion of their employees, qualify for food stamps and state aid, while they rake in BILLIONS and screw over the manufacturers to boot. WALMART SUCKS-STOP SHOPPING THERE.
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jakesguile1 year ago
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WHAT THE F*CKING HELL IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE?! A man's life was ended and all you can do is blame the BLACK MAN? Will you put aside your prejudices for ONE ******* MOMENT? PLEASE, PLEASE? It has nothing to DO with them being black, it has everything to do with them being extraordinarily stupid, selfish people. That says nothing to their race, but to they themselves personally. Now I dunno, maybe you had a bad experience with a black person as a child and it turned you into a stereotype of Whitey but you should be disgusted with yourself. SHAME on you and shame on everybody like you:
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and Locky... I know you're a racist but I'm surprised at this level of depravity even from you.
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sumptuousdigs1 year ago
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They didn't use the epithets. A s poisonous as their thought process is, the skull and cross bones label didn't flag the comment.
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In truth, I'm glad. They have just confirmed suspicions I've had all along. Thanks Locky12, You've just relegated your future comments to the bottom of the dung heap.-
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CORVIDIVS1 year ago
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... perhaps more far seeing habitués of the triple k ranch have tenured a noid to create an 'epithet elision' editor to counter aol's robotic censure intelligence,and the plethora of hate gets disseminated unscathed. Can't you just imagine the geek asking, "You All want spell check with that?"... to blank looks...
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jaern1 year ago
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This might be a little off subject but I had a long discussion w/ my 18 year old yesterday and the safety of shopping at this time of the year. I explained to her that w/ the approaching holiday season and desperation of the economy and job/home losses she should not be walking to her automobile alone at a shopping center, all packages should be kept in her trunk not in view of the backseat and carry her cell phone and car keys in her purse but in her pockets. The mounting pressures combined w/ the stresses of the holiday season make people crazy...enough to even trample workers. Its pretty sad.
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YUWANNNAKNOW1 year ago
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I would like to respond to the lady who said welcome to BlackAmerica. And the ignorant person who said we brung them from Africa All of you should really stop and listen to yourself. The words coming out your mouth make you sound so small. Not all African-Americans are bad. Just like not all Caucasions are racist. I welcome a change because we have been in let me see, u said BlackAmerica let me say WhiteAmerica too long. What has it gotten us? It is a shame that something like that happen to you and your child, however you should choose your words wisely. And as far as picking cotton it just proves you cant hold us down back, everytime we get a chance to we are going to learn it, perfect it, and take over. We are some of the best doctors, nurses, accountants,golf players, basketball players,military officers,surgeons,pediatricians, ect. So you watch how you talk and how you feel you never know who might have to safe your life in the ER or in the ambulance or in the surgery room. Its small minded people such as you that is holding this country back. Demonstrating your biligerance and racist thoughts shows me and everyone that you werent totally innocent in the incident. Your mouth probably wrote a check your ass could'nt cash.
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lvrofwolves1 year ago
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YUAWANNNAKNOW liked your comment except for-'it just proves you cant hold us down back, everytime we get a chance to we are going to learn it, perfect it, and take over'.
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Not every white person is trying or interested in holding African Americans down or back, many consider all people completely equal.
And what's with the whenever you get the chance....you're going to take over????
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UncontrollableScaldingDiarrhea1 year ago
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"And as far as picking cotton it just proves you cant hold us down back, everytime we get a chance to we are going to learn it, perfect it, and take over. "
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Just like Zimbabwe.
Hey, I'm not trying to hold anyone back, I think we should abolish affirmative action programs and shout down demagogues like, Sharpton and Jackson, who tell blacks they are victims and need a handout. Speaking of Jackson, it was nice to see him crying when OBrother won on election night. He knows blacks have no more excuses and he's probably out of a job. See, even a Con like me can find a silver lining in the diaster that is Obama.
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UncontrollableScaldingDiarrhea1 year ago
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You've got that attitude because you like many Libs wear blinders. You point to a few successes and claim victory.
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Sure black people can achieve, but we ignore the evidence of overall failure. Take KookLibfornia for instance. Whites have a drop out rate of 15.2%. Blacks have a drop out rate of 41.6%. What's that about? Even in the most progressive state in The Union can't do anything for blacks. Or should I say "African Americans", which is funny because nearly half couldn't find Africa on a map.
Just think what happens when the whites hand over the reigns of power. Name one successful country ran by blacks in Africa. To be fair, it'd have to be sub-Saharan. Arabs are pretty crappy when it comes to administration, but at least they have Islam to keep the riff-raff in line, and they aren't the blacks we're talking about.
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jtpointe1 year ago
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Perhaps the saddest part of the story is that this Walmart reopened for business a few hours later. I can hear the store manager telling the employees, "Ok I know just hours ago a 34 year co-worker of yours just lost his life in the line of work, but we need to continue to make money for mother Walmart"
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crpdm19651 year ago
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It is sad that we see this in this say and age, I refuse to partake in Black Friday EVER !!! I hate going into the malls and, years ago I uste to workin retain and I set a goal to never work for nor with the public ever again. I think they are animalistic whiners that need their hands held too much without finding their own rational answers.
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aceofspades11 year ago
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"Yes, it's bizarre. The whole damned thing is bizarre! The police should have sent a swat team in with tear gas, and cleared the place out! For crying out loud, a man was killed by a mob of crazies and they just let em shop."
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Poulenc1 year ago
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A mob is a mob is a mob. Fueled by--and particularly vulnerable to-consumerist imperatives, let's call them, an unbridled sense of competition, and goaded by a kind of greed, the people responsible lost all sense of proportion.
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Those who have less, offered a piece of the action, will try to get more. I find it heartbreaking to see, as I do every year as Christmas approaches, families of obviously distressed means loaded down with consumerist junk.
But then, as a sort of post-consumerist, I speak from an ivory tower.
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Lighthouse7771 year ago
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I don't understand why the stores need to get mobs of people acting like dumb a** lunatics to make sales. As far as I can remember (at least 40 years ago) we would look forward to the thanksgiving day newspaper with all the sales in it. We wouldn't have to camp out over night to buy anything that was on sale. no store promoted one specific item. we could go to the mall and everyone was calm, no tension in the air. You could actually feel the Christmas spirit. what a shame that it's not like that anymore. before long, they will be moving black friday to the day before halloween. May God's love comfort the family and friends of that poor victim.
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raccoonfish1 year ago
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PsychoHosebeast: racist prick
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PsychoHosebeast: Too bad one of them didn't pull a shank and gut your cracker ass from crotch to chin.
PsychoHosebeast: Forgive them, but since the election, they haven't had any other racist crap to jump on, particularly Locky, who probably had to resort to Propeller because his arm is too tired to masturbate in front of the mirror anymore and had to take out his frustrations by displaying his ignorance again.
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UncontrollableScaldingDiarrhea1 year ago
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This is the typical Liberal who will tell you that it's a hate crime for white person to tell a black kid to clean up his act, but blacks and latins killing white people couldn't possibly be a hate crime.
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Liberals combining minority self righteouness and white guilt has proven to be the mix that has brought this nation to its knees.
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sumptuousdigs1 year ago
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With the paid assistance of the media, retailers across the land have hyped "Black Friday" to the scale of a second coming event. The stores rake in the loot.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and state with certainty that no one intended to kill that man. I would also say that, had they noticed, they might have cared. I've worked crowd control before (with the secret service). We slowly funnel masses of people to 'gates', ever decreasing the pressure while maximizing control. Never send a herd of two legged animals through a cattle chute. We aren't built for that.
It saddened me to note the racial mix of the crowd. I knew it would fuel hateful and bigoted reactions from the small minded. This could have, and has happened, in an all white area. The more telling, yet less glaring, demographic detail I noticed, was the apparent age of the crowd.
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pessy741 year ago
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I think that one it is pretty sad that a man has lost his life all in the name of the almighty dollar. Sure those people more than likely got the gift that their kids wanted for them for less money but at what price? Do they plan to tell their children "be greatful for that toy because mommy/daddy had to kill someone to get it literally". I think that this incident shows just how little value the majority of our society places on human life compared to money and materialism. Secondly, shame on all of you who are blaming African Americans for this tragic event. What does the color of a person's skin have to do with the content of their heart? What does our president elect have to do with this? I personally was a McCain supporter but people need to wake up and realize that yes we will have an African American president come January and yes he will make mistakes just like all of the white presidents in our past. He is human, a human with dark skin but nonetheless a human. We cannot hold this man to any higher standards than we have any other president.
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rweger661 year ago
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this is a ridiculous display of what the holiday season has become. black friday is just that, and that is why i would never shop on that day. nowadays instead of buying a gift from the heart, we run around like crazy people because we have spoiled our children to the point that we want to make sure our kids have better gifts than other children. i feel so ashamed that people have little conscience for others. most people go shopping on black friday knowing that they will do anything possible to get what they want before anyone. surely all those people who stampeded into that walmart will feel bad knowing they took part in injuring and killing a human life just to be first to get the product they wanted.
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orndorffter1 year ago
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rweger66;> Your comment is correct,now adays we dont buy gifts from the heart, and we want to make sure we get the best for them rather or not we really have the money for it, thats is why a man welling to work that day so people got the bargens they wanted, and died for it. I could not sleep at night if I knew the I might have been the reason for the cause of a human beings life.
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k9kssr1 year ago
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r-Us in California this weekend, too. Can you imagine all the little kids running around while this was happening?
I, personally, cannot hold the retailers responsible for the actions of INDIVIDUALS. There has to be a certain standard of behavior and civility in order for people to co-exist with each other and that is falling by the wayside. Do we need to have riot squads and SWAT teams on the ready at EVERY event that involves a crowd of people?-
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sumptuousdigs1 year ago
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Individuals can act like animals. Some display piggish behavior at the buffet table.
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In these cases it's more like a mob, or herd mentality. Someone in the crowd spooks the rest, the wrong word, or expressions of dissatisfaction with the plight of the herd's condition, and the sentiment can spread. Acute anticipation, aggravated by long waits, cold, whatever...BANG! Lightning strikes, the doors fly open and the herd stampedes.
Mob behavior.
Now let's discuss European football (soccer) matches...
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lvrofwolves1 year ago
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GREAT!!! UncontrollableSD, it's best you stay out of society as much as possible, where the majority are civilized, this is big news because it's a horrible event, and because it's not common.
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you're white, right? so YOU and every other white person must be responsible for every crime or tragedy that any individual white person has done...........?
Please quit making such stupid asz comments.
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joo7b1 year ago
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There are many questions and blame to assign for this event, but every event is OUR individual chance to take a moment to be introspective and honestly critique ourselves and our lives. We're eager to say, "I would NEVER" ...., but the question to ask is "What in my life am I so eager to get or have that I've trampled someone or something to have it?" Or "When have I been in such a rush that I overlooked doing something more important?" Isn't there some self-comfort from distancing ourselves from what's right near or in ourselves - all to get what's needed? Some people involved will do the same and justify their actions with "I didn't know" or some other reason. However, those of us who were not there have to also ask, "I ever trampled by some off-handed remark or direct action someone's goals", squashed someone's feelings or self-esteem over some trivial event, or killed another person's hopes? Each of us has missed the point when we look at this event as isolated. It was at the extreme, but completely a first? No. Just research tramplings and deaths at soccer matches in Europe. We progress so minutely and bemoan the ills of the world because we spend more time looking outside ourselves to see wrongs; express momentary remorse, blame or indignation at a comment, but expect self-change to be the work of someone else. This man's death and the events were both real and symbolic, but not merely for those most involved. If we want to express true remorse or indignation, then we will each be more honest and act to change ourself within our lives.
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joo7b1 year ago
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There are many questions and blame to assign for this event, but every event is OUR individual chance to take a moment to be introspective and honestly critique ourselves and our lives. We're eager to say, "I would NEVER" ...., but the question to ask is "What in my life am I so eager to get or have that I've trampled someone or something to have it?" Or "When have I been in such a rush that I overlooked doing something more important?" Isn't there some self-comfort from distancing ourselves from what's right near or in ourselves - all to get what's needed? Some people involved will do the same and justify their actions with "I didn't know" or some other reason. However, those of us who were not there have to also ask, "I ever trampled by some off-handed remark or direct action someone's goals", squashed someone's feelings or self-esteem over some trivial event, or killed another person's hopes? Each of us has missed the point when we look at this event as isolated. It was at the extreme, but completely a first? No. Just research tramplings and deaths at soccer matches in Europe. We progress so minutely and bemoan the ills of the world because we spend more time looking outside ourselves to see wrongs; express momentary remorse, blame or indignation at a comment, but expect self-change to be the work of someone else. This man's death and the events were both real and symbolic, but not merely for those most involved. If we want to express true remorse or indignation, then we will each be more honest and resolve to be more conscious and act to either change for better within each and every relationship or interaction or ensure our highest ideals are truly interwoven throughout every area of our lives and within every action and decision.
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gwncity1 year ago
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Bloody Friday?
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From California to New York, the Black Friday Tradition either needs to end or Retailers need to be more responsible. When someome gets hurt or even dies as in these horrific cases the Retailer should be held accountable, all the way to the courts. All these workers were doing were to try to make a buck...not save a buck. Shame on the retailers who still never learn. A similar situation happened at Walmart...again...a season or two ago. God Bless these people.-
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orndorffter1 year ago
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gwncity; You gave Black Friday a good name, Bloody Friday, and thats what it should be called from now on. I watched on the news when his man got trampled to death. He volentired to work that day probely because he needed the mony and lost his life so that those who wanted save money, now his family has one less this Christmas,and everyday afterwards. If this can't open peoples eyes then nothing well. I send my Blessings to the moher and father who has lost a son, and to his wife and chidren who well be without a husband and a father, and to his brothers and sisters who no longer have their brother, and all those who loved him such a bad lose for greed. I dont no if he is married or have children,or brothers and sisters. but if he does my heart goes out to them.
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ztp12441 year ago
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What is amazing is where it happened and the type of people who committed this atrocity. The black community needs to look at itself. The days of claiming racism are over since our president is black. The community is overall a disgrace and needs to get itself to work so it can afford to spend a little more on goods. What an abomination.
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moxxxxxxxxxx1 year ago
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This is WalMarts and all the other stores that set up this chaos.
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They manipulate people by offering low prices with limited quantities. Sounds like Bait and Switch to me. It seems the most desparate and greedy people fall for the scheme.
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