Obama Haters Activated by Governor’s Indictment »
Posted By Spadecaller 11 months, 3 weeks ago in Political NewsThe indictment of Gov. Blagojevich of Illinois has energized a small but clamorous segment of Americans, who were waiting for their first opportunity to besmirch President elect Barack Obama. Routinely feeding into the frenzy of inquiries about Obama’s alleged associations with Illinois’ darker personalities has quickly become mainstream media’s latest boon. Perspective and prudence are not among the virtues of the media or those Americans who refuse to accept the presidency of Barack Obama for both inconspicuous and sundry reasons.
Lacking substantive evidence of unscrupulous conduct, the rumormongers must rely on peddling hypothetical stories about Obama’s so-called nefarious associations. The campaign slurs that most American’s had already rejected before his victory at the polls are being resurrected once again. How will they fare this time?
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jovial11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Naturally. As I said in a previous post, "Now is not the time to sit around a campfire and have S'mores and sing kumbaya". There are some very determined people in this country that want to bring severe discredit to this incoming administration. I wouldn't be surprised if there were calls for impeachment as this Presidency further matures. I think they're hoping to try to end it before Jan.20th even comes around.
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mark-stevens11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Can one person with an I.Q over 10 tell us why would an presidential candidate leading in all the polls and having money to burn have anything to do with Blagojevich and that Senate seat.
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Those who want to see Obama fail, should do us all a favor and admit that they have a racist problem. The guy has a 79% approval rating and those 21% keep coming up with phoney excuses to dislike the guy -
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bushiesRbonkers11 months, 3 weeks ago
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I saw the first "Impeach Clinton" signs two days after the 1992 election - over two months before he was even inaugurated. I'm sure those same wingers already have their "Impeach Obama" signs ready to go. I'm also sure we can expect some millionaire wingnut will fund an "Illinois Project" analogous to the "Arkansas Project."
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hyperbola11 months, 2 weeks ago
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There are valid reasons for doubting Obama. It would be useful for these to be aired rather than the silly "winger" chants.
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The Election of the Greatest Con-Man in Recent History
The entire political spectrum ranging from the ‘libertarian’ left, through the progressive editors of the Nation to the entire far right neo-con/Zionist war party and free market Berkeley/Chicago/Harvard academics, with a single voice, hailed the election of Barack Obama as a ‘historic moment’, a ‘turning point in American history and other such histrionics. For reasons completely foreign to the emotional ejaculations of his boosters, it is a historic moment: witness the abysmal gap between his ‘populist’ campaign demagoguery and his long-standing and deepening carnal relations with the most retrograde political figures, power brokers and billionaire real estate and financial backers.
What was evident from even a cursory analysis of his key campaign advisers and public commitments to Wall Street speculators, civilian militarists, zealous Zionists and corporate lawyers was hidden from the electorate, by Obama’s people friendly imagery and smooth, eloquent deliverance of a message of ‘hope’. He effectively gained the confidence, dollars and votes of tens of millions of voters by promising ‘change’ (implying higher taxes for the rich, ending the Iraq war and national health care reform) when in fact his campaign advisers (and subsequent strategic appointments) pointed to a continuation of the economic and military policies of the Bush Administration.
Within 3 weeks of his election he appointed all the political dregs who brought on the unending wars of the past two decades, the economic policy makers responsible for the financial crash and the deepening recession castigating tens of millions of Americans today and for the foreseeable future. We can affirm that the election of Obama does indeed mark a historic moment in American history: The victory of the greatest con man and his accomplices and backers in recent history.
He spoke to the workers and worked for their financial overlords.
He flashed his color to minorities while obliterating any mention of their socio-economic grievances.
He promised peace in the Middle East to the majority of young Americans and slavishly swears undying allegiance to the War Party of American Zionists serving a foreign colonial power (Israel). -
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jovial11 months, 2 weeks ago
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Remember what I said in the first post of this thread? Well here's a link that confirms what I am saying. The movement for impeachment already started.
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Endoscopy11 months, 2 weeks ago
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Gee the whiners are out in force. Their guy gets a hit and all they can do is whine. Well guess what. The shoe is on the other foot. What is wrong with going after Obama like the liberals did Bush. They started before he was inaugurated so why can't the conservatives.
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ETproductions11 months, 2 weeks ago
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A determined group of Republicans in the Senate seem committed to provoking the next Great Depression in hopes of blaming it on Obama. So much for Country First. The New Repugs are the party of up is down. Everything they say, they mean the exact opposite.
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Spadecaller11 months, 3 weeks ago
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jovial11 months, 3 weeks ago
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No problem. This is a very important issue. A shout out to all other politicians or their aides that may read this, every move you make is being carefully scrutinized. Cut the dirty politics as usual out. There is a long and vicious battle ahead and we need to show the American people that we are not like the Politicians of the past. If you fail we will lose everything that we gained. You will lose and we the people will lose as well.
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MRCOFFEECAKE11 months, 2 weeks ago
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Well whoever had libsrfunny in the "first useless poster to return" contest loses.
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Apparently Commodore and Locky beat her out. Pretty funny that the three oldest, most senile posters beat the youngsters.
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Klarissa11 months, 2 weeks ago
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spade, sounds exactly like the bush haters on here. I define "hate" as, if you knew you had two weeks to live, you would go out and kill someone you hated.
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Some of the people on here have talked about doing it or having it done to Bush - I don't see the same talk about any democrat. Dislike, yes, inexperienced, yes, abandon his friends if they would stand in the way of gaining the power of the presidency, yes. But the commenters on here are the ones who ascribe "hate" to those that don't like Obama. -
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bubba211 months, 3 weeks ago
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The Obama-haters are hypocrites.
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The Bush administration has been breaking the law and lying to the American people for the last 8 years. But because it was Bush and Republicans, it was ok.
To have such total and complete blind, unmitigated, self-serving hatred for a person or a group of people is nothing short of evil, as far as I am concerned.-
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bubba211 months, 3 weeks ago
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Sorry, but there is proof ALL AROUND of Bush's lies.
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Just for starters --
The 911 Commission report
TWO investigations by the REPUBLICAN-controlled Senate
TWO Pentagon reports
Various documented articles on how they lied about warrantless wiretapping
When you have a Republican-controlled Congress for 6 years, and for the next 2 the Democratic majority is so thin that everything they attempt to do is BLOCKED by the Republicans (over 70 Filibusters in less than 2 years), it is a wee bit difficult to hold ANYONE in the administration accountable.
No one here said that anyone should "turn a blind eye" to what the Illinois governor did. I, for one, have concluded that he is an IDIOT and is incompetent and needs to be held accountable.
The POINT is that people like YOU have "TURNED A BLIND EYE" to the law-breaking, constitution-violating, lying acts of Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Rice and Rove and all their cronies over the last eight years -
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Endoscopy11 months, 2 weeks ago
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"To have such total and complete blind, unmitigated, self-serving hatred for a person or a group of people is nothing short of evil, as far as I am concerned."
You are describing the liberal hatred of the Bush administration to a T. I totally agree with you. here is an example of that hate.
"The Bush administration has been breaking the law and lying to the American people for the last 8 years. But because it was Bush and Republicans, it was ok."
I do not hate Obama but I feel he does not have the experience for the job. Now the question is when, as Biden said, the big test comes what will he do. Will he step up to the plate or get a committee together to study the issue. This is the problem I had with all of those "present" votes. The president makes decisions and present is not an answer.
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Spadecaller11 months, 3 weeks ago
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I think it is incumbent upon repsonsible citizens to prove that Americans can surmount the slash and burn politics associated with the Bush-Rove-Gingrich clan.
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Swift-boating and negative campaign tricks finally took a beating because Americans became aware and disgusted with it.
It is time to bring that same awareness into play to protect our ability to make progress regardless of personality, religion, race, or partisanship prejudice. And, those that attempt these kinds of witch hunts should be called out for doing so.-
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Endoscopy11 months, 2 weeks ago
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The problem with what you say is you have the liberal blinders on. As I posted before the belief of the liberals is:
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Anything Conservatives say is hateful.
Anything liberals say is simple truth.
I apply that to what you say about Bush-Rove-Gingrich. You talk about the slash and burn politics they have. That is applying your hatred of what they stand for to them. Swift boating is hateful. A group of people who served with Kerry feeling they had to set the record straight the way they remember it is evil and hateful.
But the Democrats saying that anybody who is against Obama is racist. Anybody who is against the liberal agenda is hateful and evil. The conservative talk radio is hate speech. Senator Schumer compared it to pornography.
You need to step back and look at how you frame your rhetoric. If conservatives want to adjust anything downward the liberals always bring out the class warfare statements and assign hatred as the reason for the wanted change. I remember a time under Clinton that the Republicans said that they needed to take a look at the lunch program since a lot of teachers kids were on it. The Democrat response was "Starve the Children." When the Republicans wanted to look at Social security and possibly add options to it the Democrat response was "Kill Social Security." In 2004 the Republicans wanted to look into the Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac the Democrats accused the regulator of coming in with lies in an attempt to take those institutions down. Well we know now that regulator was not lying.
Take your liberal blinders off. People on the right have just as much compassion for the poor as you do. The difference of opinion is how best to give them what they need. Some of the programs on the left have had a major negative impact on the population.
ADC for one. A simple look at it makes it look like a good thing. Reality of it has torn apart the fabric of the black poor. Until that law was passed with all the good intentions in the world and the poor blacks were a tight nit family way of life. The result has been rampant kids out of wedlock being a way of life for a segment of the population. To get out on their own all a girl has to do is get pregnant. In steps ADC and gives her an apartment and money. To get more money just have another kid. If a man lives there the money stops. We have generations of girls doing what their grandma did. The only adjustment to the law is limiting the number of kids they will pay for. Liberals never understand what people will do to get or keep money. If the law had been thought through to what would happen would it have been passed? Why is no correction to it being taken now? Is this result what liberals want?
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crespi11 months, 3 weeks ago
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slate11 months, 3 weeks ago
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OK I'm going to play Devil's advocate here.
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((With Blagojevich calling Obama a "M-F" because all he would give is "appreciation," that seems to clear Obama.))
The statement about all he would give is 'appreciation' may denote that something 'may' have been discussed between he and in the least the Obama Camp and the Gov didn't get the 'information/answer" he had hoped for.
I'm not accusing anyone of anything but if you sit back and actually think about things being said, it wouldn't be difficult to consider the notion that there was contact between the Gov and the Obama camp about this matter.
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bubba211 months, 3 weeks ago
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I find it somewhat ironic that the movie about the David Frost interview with Richard Nixon is coming out now.
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One of the trailers being run all the time to advertise the movie is the one where Nixon says "... if the President does it, it is not illegal!".
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nightschase11 months, 3 weeks ago
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All I can say to the right wing, keep it up! You guys are just digging a deeper hole for yourselves. Let the American people see how petty and small you guys are. This coming from the party that talks big about patriotism and supporting the president is just too funny.
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Beau789011 months, 3 weeks ago
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Maybe this one isn't Bush's fault.
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But here's a link to a report detailing 128 separate government failures that are Bush's fault:
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simonsez11 months, 3 weeks ago
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MRCOFFEECAKE11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Your verbal insults of your visual ignorance is not welcome or useful here.
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Try renting a ladder to get out of that deep hole of ignorance you have begun to dug too early
and with no merit...
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not2needy11 months, 3 weeks ago
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This incident has refueled the Obama hatemongers. Regardless of what Obama does, they will be unwavering in their quest to slander him, all the while, making excuses for Bush, Cheney, McCain and the likes of which has taken this country into the sewer.
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With Obama being a Senator from Illinois, and Blagojevich being the governor, it's nonsense to say they had no connections, but that doesn't mean that Blagojevich made Obama privvy to his underhandedness, IF there was anything underhanded going on at all. Blagojevich hasn't been convicted yet. Isn't he innocent until proven guilty?
One thing is for sure, we know what the Bush/Cheney admin has done, whether they are proven guilty or not. They have been IN OUR FACE with it for 8 years, thumbing their proverbial noses at Americans, while they make off with unexplained missing billions that wasn't even investigated. -
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Spadecaller11 months, 3 weeks ago
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fsev4111 months, 3 weeks ago
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The ironic part of this mess in Illinois is that Barack's support of ethics reform was largely responsible for this all surfacing now.
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In late summer the Illinois legislators passed an ethics reform bill that was then vetoed by Blagovich. When it came time to vote for an over-ride of the veto OBama contacted Emil Jones, an ally of Blago and opponent of the ethics bill, and tried to convince him to support the over-ride. The over-ride passed.
Blago immediately started a quiet campaign to extort more kick-backs from government contractors before the new law took effect. Someone pressured in the new campaign went to Fitzgerald with the info and Fitz then was able to get the wiretap warrant. They were wiretapping for pay-to-play evidence before the election and were surprised when the senate seat sale came up on the wire.
Apparently they had intended to seek more evidence on the kick-back scheme but the senate seat sale made it imperative to act quickly to prevent an appointment being made.
Thus it can be concluded that OBama's support of ethics reform was a catalyst in Blago's downfall. That makes Barack the good guy in my book.-
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simonsez11 months, 3 weeks ago
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That's quite a reach, fsev ... So Blago was honest until he realized time was running out.
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We probably know about 10% so far, of what has been going on. Personally, I don't hold Obama responsible for anything Blago has done, but this is the environment that Obama came to power in.
Maybe it's just another example of the savior in the temple with the money changers.
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Commodore111 months, 3 weeks ago
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Yes there are those of us who don't like Obama bin Laden. Of course, I'm sure were nothing like the hate spewing nazi liberals during George Bush. The Bush haters pushed insanity to a new level and demonstrated a hatred only matched by nazis and KKK members. No were nothing like the hate mongering liberals who act like they are doing this country a favor. But then Bush haters seem to like terrorists. So what has been elected to office? Why a terrorist sympathesizer. And now there could be a chance he was involved w/Blagovich in selling the senate seat. How about that? He hasn't even been sworn in yet. Hee! Hee! It's only just beginning U stupid nazi liberals.
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MRCOFFEECAKE11 months, 3 weeks ago
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WELL SPOKEN..(for a senile, misguided nit wit)
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Hey....just a friendly reminder but your white hood and cape are still at the dry cleaners, and that giant wooden cross you ordered is in transit!
By the way..it is a FACT that the klan and extreme right wing bigots are politically similar to Nazi Jew haters and were ALL ultra-CONSERVATIVE political extremists..
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Newperson11 months, 3 weeks ago
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At least give Obama a chance he is our soon to be president. Time will tell. Me i hope he is clean.
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We need a good man to get our country back on track.We dont need people trying to drag him down.He has his work cut out. I say good luck Obama and god bless. -
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Spadecaller11 months, 3 weeks ago
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FTA:
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Most Americans who are genuinely interested in seeing the current financial crisis surmounted do not want to see an Obama administration hounded by witch hunters and malcontents. And most Americans, including mainstream conservatives, want to see their new President Elect Barack Obama unite the nation in its efforts to reclaim a government that has fallen from the prescripts of the constitution, which is supposed to define the conduct and character of this nation.
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What doe that tell you about the members on Propeller who are still referring to the President elect as Obama bin Laden and calling liberals Nazis?
It tells me that not only are they out of the loop, ignorant, bigoted, and contemptuous, they only pretend to be patriotic. Their real loyalties are to a small group of people, and not the nation as a whole.
I was impressed by Slate, a conservative, who said that Barack is my president now too and I will support him. That shows the difference between mainstream Republicans and the kooks like Lockey and Commodore. I may disagree with Slate and other conservatives, but we can agree to disagree respectfully without the name calling.
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jimdoze11 months, 3 weeks ago
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You were doing fine until you had to throw in your own version of partisanship, Spade, e.g. "unite the nation in its efforts to reclaim a government that has fallen from the prescripts of the constitution". While you state your partisanship more eloquently than Commodore and Lockey, it is no less pernicious. Otherwise, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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greenmac11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Wow...there is a lot of 'nasty" being slapped down on this thread today. for those that continue to support Bush and his administration, you do your image a disservice. It has been proven Bush was wrong in most of the choices he made in his reign. The approval numbers I believe supports that statement and the state of country also qualifies it as well.
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There has been so much negativity from the verbal minority before and after the election that it is almost comical. The search for mud that can stick to Obama has been endless it seems. Take this article for example.... did Obama try to sell the seat..No. even if he did talk to Blagojevich... so what. I don't believe Obama wanted a piece of the action. If the people wish the incoming President and his cabinet, to get down to business and solve some of the outstanding problems, then I believe they should not be cluttering the path to resolution of some of these issues.
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reallypsst11 months, 3 weeks ago
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He we go again our president elect not yet in office and the a-holes are coming out of the wood work.It is time for people to take politics 101 were in our government does one sole person have the power to do anything in government,it takes many branches of government to act and make a move .Our present government is structured for that very process so you should in fact start collecting all the bad apples and don't be surprised if ninety nine percent are corrupt.I think its time to let the man make some moves before we start judging after all bush has eight years of f-ups so were are the patriots that will indict him!
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Spadecaller11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Exactly.
Most Americans who are genuinely interested in seeing the current financial crisis surmounted do not want to see an Obama administration hounded by witch hunters and malcontents.
And most Americans, including mainstream conservatives, want to see their new President Elect Barack Obama unite the nation in its efforts to reclaim a government that has fallen from the prescripts of the constitution, which is supposed to define the conduct and character of this nation.
If our government, nation, and society crumbles, it will not be because of foreign forces or terrorism, it will be from the inside. It will be the result of Americans failing to unite and work together in facing the serious issues of energy, class warfare, religious tolerance, social justice, civil rights for all people, and economic fairness -- all of which we are struggling with presently.-
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Hhussk11 months, 3 weeks ago
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I would remind you that, ALSO, those of us who wanted to see the War in Iraq and Afghanistan won, did not want to see President Bush hounded by witch hunters and malcontents.
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But that was not meant to be. You have to understand that many of the people who have seen people like you as Bush-haters feel that its time you got some payback.
This is the sort of stuff I've been hearing in the right-wing circles. Whether its right or wrong (it's wrong, but then, what you've been doing was wrong also) doesn't matter anymore.
People in my own circles think I'm too light on Obama...I can't seem to get anyone to calm down and stop villifying the other side.
You're just going to have to grin and bear it. Or fight. It's your choice. Either way, when he's right, I'll admit it. When he's wrong, I'll explain it.
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beavith111 months, 3 weeks ago
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i'm with 4th chance, too.
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most of the discourse here is based on trollbait and trolls. and it goes, disturbingly, both ways.
just as the 'hater' republicans are commenting, the 'hater' democrats jog their circuits and respond in kind.
its really rather pathetic.
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4thchance11 months, 3 weeks ago
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I'm a republican, I voted for McCain, I am NOT a hater, I do have something to say here.
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I really do HOPE that all will be fine with Obama. We don't need any more crap to tear us down any further then we are now. Let's just all hope that Obama proves to be a very good and honest president, and can make things better for us in the near future. We're already fighting a sh*t storm of crap, we don't need any more problems... In the next election I will still be voting REPUBLICAN. Obama will soon be our president and we should all support him, as long as it's still appropriate to support him. Good luck to president Obama.-
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jovial11 months, 3 weeks ago
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i laud your statement. I would like to remind you that Spadecaller's story spoke of a subset of the group calling themselves Republicans felt that way. I don't think he meant to infer that all Republicans were haters. I also concede that not all Republicans are of the hater type.
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