Comments for What if there were no Newspapers in the World? »
Posted By WikiMap 1 year ago in NewsWith the fastest means of transport and travel, the world has now become small. One can hardly deny the significance of the means of communication in the changed situation. Newspaper is a powerful source of communication between the government and people of a country.
Read Full Story at mychannelnews.info »
RSS Join the Discussion
+ Add CommentComments So Far: 194
-
93%
WikiMap1 year ago
-
-
69%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
This might be good for one reason. ... ... There are far too many Newspaper owners who are Right Wing Ideologues pushing their Right Wing Perspective through their newspapers.
Reply
For instance, our local paper is the only one in town. The owner was a major financial backer of George W. Bush.
Conrad Black - an extreme extremist right wing nut - was buying newspapers all over the US and Canada. He made no bones that his purpose was to push a far right wing message.
And he was well on his way .......... until he wound up in jail .... for other reasons. Most notably ... theft and duplicity.
Here in our town, every election, it's the same thing ... they endorse every single Republican ... without question. They've lined up every right wing pundit out there ... from Kathleen Parker ... all the way to Walter Williams ... (a nut that has moved so far to the right, he's practically an anarchist.).
Propeller is nice because there are many clear thinkers who expose me to various stories I would not otherwise know about --- given that Corporations ... and friends of Corporations control the spigot of information ... and direct it's flow ... to benefit their Right Wing friends.
For instance, the Right Wing Controlled Mainstream Media refused to talk about how George W. Bush got the city of Arlington to raise taxes to build HIM and his partners a brand new stadium.
When you hear the Right Wing extremists on Propeller chant the word 'Socialism' when they talk about Obama ... I had the information that GW owed his fortune to Socialism.
I also read on the internet how George W. Bush stole 200 acres from middle class citizens in Arlington by using Eminent Domain.
Later, it was through the internet that I learned about John McCain's stunning behavior in his early days.
So ... when the Right Wing Extremists on Propeller began to promote John McCain ... I was able to point out how odd it was that they supported a known adulterer ... when they demonized Clinton for his adultery.
Yes, the Right Wing Bias of Mainstream Media is real -limiting the free flow of information. The internet in general ... and my friends on Propeller represent the REAL Freedom of Information .... and have been a true Information Lifeline to me.
.-
67%
hyperbola1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
On the internet you could have learned that Conrad Black is a right-wing zionist wingnut that was caught (and convicted in court) of producing false propaganda documents in the run up to the Iraq war. This propaganda (and the conviction) were first published in a Black newspaper in Britain, but Black used his zionist mouthpiece in the US (NY Sun) to sluice it into our news where it was then widely propagated by Murdoch and Fox News. While the subsequent exposure of the propaganda and the convictions were widely covered in Britain, you may be sure that Murdoch and Fox did not tell Americans about this.
Reply
Black was also intimately involved in another zionst propaganda campaign (the UN oil-for-food "scandal"). This was also first published in Britain and sluiced into the US by the same zionist route. Once again Fox and Murdoch did not tell Americans that court convictions (and damage payments) ensued from that propaganda campaign.
Black has, of course, since been convicted and jailed for financial fraud (a Bernie Maddof type). Remember that people like Reichard Perle, (also an israel-firster in our government, member of PNAC and instrumental in the pro-Iraq war propaganda), were associated with Black's financial and propaganda escapades. -
-
40%
slate1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Here in our town, every election, it's the same thing ... they endorse every single Democrat ... without question. They've lined up every right wing pundit out there
Reply
You know how it is, some are from the right and moat are from the left,,,,, what you only want papers that are left leaning?
Heck you don't even want to stop there, you want to kill talk radio. In an Article yesterday Dan Rather said the MSM was controlled by those on the hill do you want to kill the last venue that may not be? -
100%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
slate, who said the Right Wing Newspapers were sneaky?
Reply
They don't sneak about it at all.
They are 'in your face' .... astonishingly arrogant ... that THEIR way is the CORRECT way.
And I certainly don't know what you are referring to when newspapers take the left side of any issue 90% of the time. I've given you examples of how this is not true.
If you live in a city with a LIBERAL newspaper ... consider yourself part of a dying breed. The 'populist' newspaper has been on it's way out for decades.
And who are you referring to when you say 'you guys'? I'm an advocate for OBJECTIVE ... RATIONAL news dissemination.
.-
20%
slate1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
LOL so you don't think the left wing media isn't in our face?
Reply
It's all about sales in the end, apparently more people want to take out adds in papers and other news sources that lean more to the right.
Populist? Yeah the left view is for the 'people' and the right is against the 'people? That's the problem with those on the left, they think only their ideas are righteous and and views from the right are evil, hey kinda like here. -
-
-
-
33%
slate1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
For instance, the Right Wing Controlled Mainstream Media refused to talk about how George W. Bush got the city of Arlington to raise taxes to build HIM and his partners a brand new stadium.
Reply
Hmmmmmmmm Yeah George is 'different' not one other sports team in the US has tax payer built stadiums!
That's why I gave up sports in this town, we have 3 going on 4 now. Yeah Bush what a slick one sneaking in taxes to pay for a stadium. -
80%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Gosh slate ... it appears I've struck a chord.
Reply
Please don't assume that simply because I'm dismayed at the Right Wing Control of Media that I wish for a LEFT Wing Control.
I'm not prone to extremes. I'm simply longing for balance. After all, I'm a Centrist.
As far as you minimizing George W. Bush having the City of Arlington build him and his partners a stadium by raising taxes .... I have two questions....
1) - Does it or does it not represent the kind of Socialism that Right Wing Propeller-Heads so often squeal about?
2) - Isn't it ironic that George W. Bush ... ... ... an ideologue so opposed to government involvement, he reined in the SEC and minimized FEMA's response to Katrina ... ... ... and yet ... when it was convenient for him ... ... ... he involved the city government COMPLETELY to achieve his PERSONAL financial goals?
Follow up to question 2
2a) - Doesn't his behavior PROVE that Neo-Cons don't even believe in the BS they say they stand for?
.-
50%
slate1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
LOL you didn't strike a chord I'm just having a debate with you and pointing out the other side of the topic. Why is it you only mention what you think of a right bias but not left bias. I'd say the statement of (I'm simply longing for balance) isn't entirely true
Reply -
100%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
You're wrong. I AM simply looking for balance.
Reply
Or, let's put it this way ... if you seem my comments as representing a desire for Media having a Left Wing Bias ... then I MUST conclude that you are demanding a Media with Right Wing Bias ... ... ...
Perhaps you've hit on the essential problem . . . . perception and mistrust. -
-
-
100%
CORVIDIVS1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
"So ... when the Right Wing Extremists on Propeller began to promote John McCain ... I was able to point out how odd it was that they supported a known adulterer ... when they demonized Clinton for his adultery."
Reply
... so what's wrong with a little adultery here & there,unless one be breeder stock, relying on propagation of an inherently arrogant,destructive species to pad the future with nice fluffy things that don't in any way discommode a sense of sexual security... perhaps a demonizing of adultery be geared only to a male dominated setup in order to keep womenfolk at the hearth... just a little boxin' day ramble...the permutations of this topic go over the horizon... -
50%
hyperbola1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Actually Goppy, I don't find the right-wing versus left-wing distinction very useful in understanding American newspapers (or other media outlets). It is much more useful to think of them as purveyors of "corporate interests" (that is who owns them and who runs things like Associated Press).
Reply
Given their corporate masters, it is no surprise that right and left both peddle things like military imperialism and financial elitism. "Right-wing" sources sell that to us using "pledges" that try to make you join a sect-like attitude (God, flag and military). "Left-wing" sources sell that to us by trying to convince us that it is our duty to "do good in the world".
Real news and opinion that counters the corporate media mindset is fully self-censored in our mass media. -
100%
chevydog1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Hey Goppy -- Very articulate. But that's what we have brains for. All sorts of people --right wing, broken-wing, "conservative", "liberal", etc. can voice stuff of value and worth reflecting on. That to me is the beauty of newspapers. One can read stuff at leisure, have time to sit back and digest it, and ask the question "Does that make sense?" If it turns out that it does, one can at leisure figure out where it fits in one's view of things.
Reply
You can't do that with the internet, or with TV, or radio. Those things pass quickly. No time for reflection--just accept or reject. As a sort of cynic/skeptic, I kinda think that's why political campaigns have been using it more and more. They really don't want you to think. It's great to keep the troops aroused ; but not so much if you want to sit back and maybe ask questions. In many modern political campaigns, neither the emperor nor the emperor-alternate may turn out to have a full compliment of clothes. Anything either side can do to hide this is a useful tool. -
-
0%
hyperbola1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
And Goppy, it is not only the written media that "self-censored" in the US. The same thing happens in our musical media. Try to imagine this band and songs, which are very popular in the spanish-speaking world, being performed in the US.
Reply
SkaP Tio Sam (Incontrolable)
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=QKGyUryeLmw
Intifada-Ska-p
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=aL1kmwb5kGs -
libsRfunnyComment removed: Hard Banned1 Reply
-
-
100%
UnusualSuspect1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I love newspapers.
Reply
Goes back to my father being an managing editor of one growing up in the midwest...he started out as a reporter, then at the news desk, news editor, etc. So it's sort of engrained in me.
I love Sunday papers...the variety of stories, the detail, the Sunday magazines, (don't forget the comics!) etc.
But they take up so much space when you're done with them (especially if you get a daily and a Sunday, like the NYT), use too many trees and ink (alas, dirty hands), get thrown and land in a puddle or snow instead of on the front steps, and on average, cost more a month than the internet.
While I don't care for reading news or anything else on a monitor, I can archive articles I like, get a story that's breaking (since I work at home on a computer 10-12 hours a day), and get almost any kind of news, in any area, from any country, I like. I also like the videos that are available...they nicely round out the news when not in front of a TV (which is being watched less, too!). Can't always get the detail of a story as easily, but you can't win them all.
Hate to say it, but newspapers have their days numbered. Within 10 years, maybe one or two major ones left, printed 2-3 times a week. In 20 years. I'm not talking small weeklies here, the ones small towns and boroughs have in the corner store...they'll be around a bit longer, to get out the daily news...maybe they'll go monthly, who knows. But they'll be gone someday, too...another thing of the past...-
100%
chevydog1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
You may well be right. Alot of this depends on internet accessibility and the cost thereof. And I guess computer literacy, which we sort of take for granted.
Reply
Right now, my cost for broadband is pretty much a wash with the cost of the big-city newsaper. If one is willing to accept 56K dial-up, you're way ahead with internet. I'm in what one would call an exurb, a far out suburb. About 20 years ago, it used to be rural. I think some dial-up protocols let you stay online with an incoming call, which is a plus.
Having lived out in rural MO for a while, I tend to think that cost to get internet might turn out pretty high. Some places I lived still don't have anything but rabbit-ear TV and have only recently converted from dial phones. Just a personal feeling -- I liked living out there and would hate to see more penalties for doing it.
-
-
-
100%
gamahuche1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Newspapers??
Reply
For 30 years I used to be an avid cover-to-cover reader of the Guardian weekly and was reluctant to let my subscription lapse. But one Christmas, when funds were short, I let it go and have never missed it.
What I can't get from the Internet I get from the BBC World Service in 3 languages and overall am far better informed than I was before.
Newsprint, IMO, is simply a poor use of trees but I do have a different feeling about books, especially 15th and 16th C manuscripts. Even if they exist in cyberspace nothing makes up for the smell and the paper and the plates and the tactile experience!-
-
67%
hyperbola1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
The Guardian has declined in quality as the english-language press became dominated by US media. If you really want good news coverage, it is better to use non-english sources that are not subject to the stereotypes engendered by the US press. It is also useful to use smaller countries as they often have much wider and deeper coverage of world news than bigger countries (that often use their press to "support" propaganda about their "national interests").
Reply
Who knows that the Neue Zurcher Zeitung publishes much more and much better coverage of world news (and opinion) than the Washington Post?
One of my other favorites is El Pais (Spain) which provides the leading coverage of a language and region that exceeds in number and area that of the english-speaking world.
In general, good newspapers (largely abandoned to become propaganda mouthpieces in the US, increasingly so in Britain too) still are better than the internet, where too much garbage is "published". -
100%
GehlLady1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
For myself, I agree, but what about my Mother that has no desire for a computer at 74? She shouldn't have the opportunity to keep up with her community news, or the millions just like her? For her specifically with Alzheimers closing in, she can spend hours reading it over until she comprehends it, makes her feel as though she can stay connected, gives her something to start a conversation with, even if she has to refer back to the pages to keep up.
Reply-
-
-
mntnman444Comment removed: Spammer, Hard Banned3 Replies
-
-
-
HMMaceComment removed: Spammer, Hard Banned
-
-
-
100%
mmrhe1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Who do they have writing at "My News Channel"?
Reply
This is the second article I've seen from them written in very poor english.
Hello!...You call yourselves writers????
That being said, I agree with most of what has already been said here.
The author makes some good points about the availability of local information but for the most part I found his assertions laughable. -
-
SandmonsterComment removed: Hard Banned67 Replies
-
-
60%
slate1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Denying Left Bias in the Media is wrong headed and another of those tell what you want to be true (right wing bias) over the truth (left wing bias) enough then many will believe it.
Reply
You know, like McCain is Bush, Obama will bring real change, Bush perpetrated 9/11? The last election cycle is evident that it gets worse as years go by.
All the pro Obama coverage against the anti Bush (Palin) coverage in both print and TV.
Tingles up legs, Crying ‘Reporters” when Obama wins.
News Flash!!!! McCain is a scary old man that is Bush incarnate and his wife is an evil woman. Now for some ‘refreshing’ details about the One that is perfection that will bring us Hope and change along with his perfect wife! Let’s not waste our time with all the side things people are talking about the One unless the outcry becomes so loud we will have to discuss it and try to spin it into just another Hateful racist Plot by the righties!-
75%
slate1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
How the Media Vote. Surveys of journalists’ self-reported voting habits show them backing the Democratic candidate in every presidential election since 1964, including landslide losers George McGovern, Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis. In 2004, a poll conducted by the University of Connecticut found journalists backed John Kerry over George W. Bush by a greater than two-to-one margin
Reply
How the Public Views the Media. In increasing numbers, the viewing audiences recognize the media’s liberal tilt. Gallup polls have consistently found that three times as many see the media as “too liberal” as see a media that is “too conservative.” A 2005 survey conducted for the American Journalism Review found nearly two-thirds of the public disagreed with the statement, “The news media try to report the news without bias,” and 42 percent of adults disagreed strongly
Admissions of Liberal Bias. A number of journalists have admitted that the majority of their brethren approach the news from a liberal angle. During the 2004 presidential campaign, for example, Newsweek’s Evan Thomas predicted that sympathetic media coverage would boost Kerry’s vote by “maybe 15 points,” which he later revised to five points. In 2005, ex-CBS News President Van Gordon Sauter confessed he stopped watching his old network: “The unremitting liberal orientation finally became too much for me.”
Denials of Liberal Bias. Many journalists continue to deny the liberal bias that taints their profession. During the height of CBS’s forged memo scandal during the 2004 campaign, Dan Rather insisted that the problem wasn’t his bias, it was his anybody who criticized him. “People who are so passionately partisan politically or ideologically committed basically say, ‘Because he won’t report it our way, we’re going to hang something bad around his neck and choke him with it, check him out of existence if we can, if not make him feel great pain,’” Rather told USA Today in September 2004. “They know that I’m fiercely independent and that’s what drives them up a wall.”
Evidence of Bias in News Coverage. The Media Research Center continuously reports on instances of the liberal bias in the mainstream media. Daily CyberAlerts offer a regular roundup of the latest instances of biased reporting, while our NewsBusters blog allows Web users to post their own reactions. Media Reality Check fax reports showcase important stories that the news media have distorted or ignored, and several times each year the MRC publishes Special Reports offering in-depth documentation of the media’s bias on specific issues.-
78%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Here's some data that i might want to counter with you, slate.
Reply
--- Sixty percent of the nation's daily newspapers print more conservative syndicated columnists every week than progressive syndicated columnists. Only 20 percent run more progressives than conservatives, while the remaining 20 percent are evenly balanced.
--- In a given week, nationally syndicated progressive columnists are published in newspapers with a combined total circulation of 125 million. Conservative columnists, on the other hand, are published in newspapers with a combined total circulation of more than 152 million.
--- The top 10 columnists as ranked by the number of papers in which they are carried include five conservatives, two centrists, and only three progressives.
--- In 38 states, the conservative voice is greater than the progressive voice -- in other words, conservative columns reach more readers in total than progressive columns. In only 12 states is the progressive voice greater than the conservative voice.
--- In eight of the nine divisions into which the U.S. Census Bureau divides the country, conservative syndicated columnists reach more readers than progressive syndicated columnists in any given week. Only in the Middle Atlantic division do progressive columnists reach more readers each week. -
-
-
67%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
WOW!!
Reply
This is easy.
"How the Media Vote. Surveys of journalists’ self-reported voting habits show them backing the Democratic candidate in every presidential election since 1964, including landslide losers George McGovern, Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis. In 2004, a poll conducted by the University of Connecticut found journalists backed John Kerry over George W. Bush by a greater than two-to-one margin."
These oft quoted surveys have little to do with modern reality. As the article itself states, and as we all know, fewer and fewer Americans are getting their news from newspapers.
With surveys, it's all in how you ask the question.
In the end, we are not Republicans, Democrats, or Independents. We are .... each of us .... individuals ... with family issues, health issues, mortgage issues, work issues.
Republicans have historically worked on behalf of Corporations, Big Pharma, Big Oil. Insurance Companies ... etc ... etc ...
ANY human interest story ... by it's very nature ... focuses on an INDIVIDUAL ... it is the INDIVIDUAL who is fighting against a hospital for denying service.
It is the INDIVIDUAL who is fighting against an Insurance company for denying coverage.
It is an INDIVIDUAL who is fighting a Corporation for discrimination.
In almost any case you can think of .... a Republican would fight FOR the Corporation ... and AGAINST the individual.
For survey purposes, this kind of story .... common today in media ... reflects badly for Republicans ... but it's essential truth. It simply cannot ... in good faith ... be claimed to be fundamental bias...... it's a snapshot of what each and every INDIVIDUAL in our nation may be struggling with. In short ... it's news. -
71%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Radio is completely dominated by Right Wing Talk/Propaganda.
Reply
There are literally dozens upon dozens of Right Wing Extremists promoting extreme views and fundamental DIS-information around the nation.
Shows like:
Dennis Prager,
Bob Frantz,
Dennis Miller,
G. Gordon LIddy,
Eric Hogue,
Steve Gill,
Gunny Bob,
Guy Benson,
Kennedy and Bryan Suits,
Greg Belfrage,
Lores Rizkalla,
Kevin James,
John Gibson,
John DePetro,
Jim Sumpter,
Levon Yuille,
Bob & Kendal Ehrlich,
Bob Lonsberry,
Brian & The Judge,
Bruce Elliot,
Chris Baker,
Chris Plante,
Curtis Sliwa,
Bruce Williams,
Jackie Mason,
Howie Carr,
Greg Belfrage,
Tammy Bruce,
Sean Hannity,
Scott Wilder,
Hugh Hewitt,
Tom Sullivan,
Tod Feinburg,
Mike McConnell,
Paul Anderson,
Michael Graham,
Greg Knapp,
Steve Malzberg,
Rusty Humphries,
Rush Limbaugh,
Monica Crowley,
Bill Bennett,
Pamela Furr,
Pat Gray,
Edd Hendee,
Paul W. Smith,
Bill Cunningham,
Lynn Woolley,
Mark Davis,
Mark Levin,
Mark Simone,
McIntyre in the Morning,
Michael Berry,
Michael DelGiorno,
Michael Medved,
Michael Reagan,
Mike Gallagher,
Mike McConnell,
Mike Rosen,
Phil Valentine,
Rick Amato,
Rick Roberts,
Rodger Hedgecock,
Chuck Wilder,
Helen Glover,
Hermain Cain,
Howie Carr,
Janet Parshall,
Jay Severin,
Jay Weber,
Jim Sumpter,
Kirby Wilbur,
Lars Larson,
Laura Ingraham,
Dave Diamond,
Barbara Simpson,
Barry Farber,
Bill Nojay,
Bob Frantz,
Charlie Sykes,
Chris Baker,
This is ... AGAIN .... a small sampling of the numerous CONSERVATIVE talk radio programs. These are not intended to EDUCATE through objective analysis. But rather ... these programs are designed to demean objectivity.
If one were honest, one would admit that the Right Wing has an unprecedented stranglehold on the national discourse.
So please ... don't hand me the same old whine about 'Liberal Bias'. .... there is NO bias that can compare with the present day control of media by the right.
.-
-
libsRfunnyComment removed: Hard Banned1 Reply
-
-
-
-
-
mntnman444Comment removed: Spammer, Hard Banned3 Replies
-
-
-
100%
DarkWizard1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
This article was poorly written and is based on a notion that has a very low probability of ever occurring. Why? Because people want to be informed and advertisers don't want to lose any opportunity to market.
Reply
Now,even if newspapers stopped printing hard copies there will always be news outlets through other media venues much as we already enjoy. The problem I have with most news, is the fact that personal bias v. fact is rampant and has been for a long time. I have more respect for news that identifies itself as being biased than those that claim to be just reporting the news and are obviously taking creative liberties to make the stories more entertaining. -
75%
not2needy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
What i would "prefer" to see is NEWS, as it happens, with NO slant what so ever. Let the reader, viewer, etc form their own opinions.
Reply
While cons say that the media is left biased, i don't think i have ever seen anything as distorted as the way Fox reports the news. Their reporters generally end up screaming, red faced and appear to have completely lost all control before finishing their version of the news.-
-
100%
gamahuche1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I listen to newshour almost every day. The best thing about it is that when you know the presenters you can "compensate" the information.
Reply
Of course the left-right spectrum in Europe is quite diffferent than in the US.
The extreme rightists who post here would be considered fascists and the people whom THEY would label libs would be liberals on Europe too, but therefore considered centrists .
Then we have socialists and communists..
-
-
-
80%
CHAM1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Goppy. I think you win this one hands down. Slate - get real.
Reply
And Slate how could you or anyone condone what has transpired these past eight years? Don't you believe in American values?
I consider myself to be an American first and a party last individual.
To the newspapers. I watched a discussion about this very subject on C-Span a few days ago. To a person the newspaper people feel the printed paper to be a Dinosaur. They see the future being strictly on-line.
And when they were asked why, their response was that the Internet provided an opportunity to check out anything that is written. An example would be your and Goppy's discussion. A person pushing an agenda needs to be very careful about what they write on the net because within minutes they will be exposed, but spin in a news paper does not give the opportunity to the public to read the refutations.
Someone above, maybe Goppy, mentioned that his local paper was Conservative. My mainstream newspaper is so conservative that when I asked the Editor if he would permit non-conservative matter in the Political Section ( I'm not speaking of letters to the editor ), he told me that they didn't print political stuff in the Political Section. He didn't have to sneer at me, I could feel the insult even more than a slap in the face.
A non-conservative view has as much of a chance of appearing in my newspaper as a snowball has continuing to exist in hell.
As a final thing. I wrote an article ( another site ) about how Bush and Co-Conspirators were removing regulations on mass media to allow "The Few" to control Media. As I recall we now have less than a dozen truly Independent National media sources left in America. Most of the Media is owned by mega Corporations.-
71%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Naturally, I think your comment is awesome.
Reply
And yes, it was me who said our newspaper is Conservative. Formerly owned by a major contributor to George W. Bush.
Every single endorsement in the last election was a Republican.
Every one. -
100%
DarkWizard1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
CHAM,
Reply
"Most of the Media is owned by mega Corporations."
Yes, sadly, most of those that keep complaining about the "liberal" news forget that corporations own almost all media outlets and have a conservative agenda. Few media outlets have true liberal agendas.
-
-
CORVIDIVSComment removed: Spam
-
CORVIDIVSComment removed: Spam
-
-
-
-
-
libsRfunnyComment removed: Hard Banned
-
100%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Yes libs .... everyone is ignorant except for you.
Reply
Bush is great.
All the problems our nation has right now are due to Clinton's BJ.
The 6 years of SOLID Republican Control of Government mean nothing by comparison.
The prior 6 years of Majority Rule by Republicans mean nothing by comparison.
The Republican Revolution meant nothing.
It all comes down to Clinton and his BJ.
You truly are the most narrow minded, embittered person on Propeller ... even more so than Endoscopy.
No wonder people claim you hate our nation.
.
-
-
-
CORVIDIVSComment removed: Spam
-
100%
CORVIDIVS1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
SO THIS DEFINITELY HAS TO DO WITH THIS THREAD: why was a comment I sent targeted as spam when it spoke to the issue,if admittedly in irony.Are there 'key' words that determine 'uneditability'.. was it pornographic,was it 'too long' or burdened with prurient self interest. Common, prop, get honest, or I'll report YOU...
Reply -
-
-
60%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Hey, I wonder why GehlLady didn't give brehas a neg?
Reply
I mean, GehlLady claims I'm arrogant.
What could be more arrogant than directing me to 'get a job' and labeling my life .... drivel?
Like I say .... some people claim to advocate fairness ... but when the chips are down ... they are really advocating a double standard.-
33%
GehlLady1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
"Hey, I wonder why GehlLady didn't give brehas a neg?"
Reply
You should have left me off your Christmas Greeting list. He was talking to you, that's why.
I didn't say you were arrogant, see what I meant about seeing what you choose, and tunnel vision?
I said you were a bully. Not all bullies are loud and obviously pushy. Some bullies prefer the passive-aggressive approach, the back-handed compliment/greeting. Control freaks that need approval sometimes use the condesending attitude methods. They have to pigeon-hole people into the only boxes they are capable of seeing so that they can paint them in broad brushstrokes. Seeing people as individuals doesn't leave the impression of control in place.
I haven't seen much of brehas2, so I don't know from where his/her comments come from, but I've tangled with you before, but the one and only private message I sent to you was an apology for going too far in calling you names the one time I did cross the line.
Yet you continue to call me out. I can only assume at this point you see me as a worthy opponent. Someone like you can't be reasoned with, or debated in a fashion I'm interested in. You would have to be willing to see the other side of the debate, whether you agreed or not, and willing to leave it at that with out insults, backhanded or otherwise.
-
-
-
40%
lloydm651 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
George Bush was a minority owner in the Rangers,and did what?
Reply
You might want to source out a little more info.Right now Arlington tax payers are partially financing the new Dallas Cowboy stadium.The Texas Rangers have brought billions of dollars of businesses to their city,and countless millions in tax revenues.The cowboy's will do the same.Step out of the ghetto,or barrio,and look toward Texas,you'll see that bright and shinning city on the hill,it's call the DFW Metro-plex-
75%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Well, well .... here's ANOTHER Right Wing Propeller member I forgot to add to my list!
Reply
slate, there are even more Righties than I could count!
Look lloyd65, I'm not saying that Ranger Stadium hasn't brought a boon.
I'm merely talking about the way it was financed ... and WHO arranged it.
While Right Wing extremists whine and sneer and call Obama a Socialists ... they ignore that George W. Bush went to the CITY of Arlington .... to GOVERNMENT to finance HIS stadium.
Get it, now?
The fellow who went to Washington on a platform that Government IS the problem ... chose GOVERNMENT to solve his problem FIRST.
This ... even though GW and his partners could have easily financed the Stadium with their own money.
Well, not GW. He was just a straw man at that point.
Plus, you failed (or ignored) the whole Eminent Domain that GW demanded of the City.
So please, lloydm65, stop obfuscating the issue.
.-
libsRfunnyComment removed: Hard Banned6 Replies
-
-
-
-
20%
brehas21 year ago
-
83%
DarkWizard1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
brehas2,
Reply
Open mouth and insert foot! Let us re-examine your logic. You conservatives (more like Neocon faithful) think that all media outlets are liberal. Therefore, wouldn't we have had more liberal presidents over the last 30+ years than conservative? I mean the influence of the media should have affected the outcomes of elections because of the "push" for liberals...right? So now, explain to me why only, in 12 of the last 30+ years, a Democratic President has held office.-
libsRfunnyComment removed: Hard Banned2 Replies
-
-
-
-
-
-
100%
CORVIDIVS1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
SPEAKING TO THE ISSUE of pulp media's postulated demise,I saw an interview of John Cleese on Cavett,and when queried about his direct confrontations with English Royalty,he said that up close it got a bit 'Grotty'... A term I wouldn't feel misplaced, considering some of the 'up close-es' I've experienced with electronic & pulp versions of 'journalism' claiming to be authorities on this and that... including the supposed 'editing' of comments at this venue... which renders my posts now copied to disc before submission... more proofs for the eternal spike...
Reply -
20%
brehas21 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Can't some liberal name all the left wing communist socialist talk shows, papers, magazines, TV shows and of course the Internet of which every one of the programs is leftist and socialist. I am sure it will outnumber the conservatives. As usual LDL are are always belting out some crap. Have a happy Leninist new year.
Reply-
86%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Oh ... sorry ... I forgot to add brehas2 to my list of right wing Propeller-Heads!
Reply
LOL!!
Please accept my apologies brehas2!
Although ... you are among those who are so far to the extreme Right ... you think Karl Rove is a Socialist!
LOL!!!!
Hey look! It's raining outside!! To brehas2 ... this is MORE proof of a Liberal Conspiracy!!!
ROTFLMAO!!!
-
-
-
80%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I have no answer for you another_reader.
Reply
My suspicion is that Right Wing listeners to Right Wing Talk Radio are not very creative ... so they shun music or dispassionate discussion.
Plus, there's a lot of guilt that they feel for having embraced such the Morally Vacant Ideology of Neo-Conservatism - they need to gravitate to places that assuage this guilt.
But I do not believe they find that this ameliorates their guilt ... or if so ... only during the time when these Entertainment Shows are on the air.
This is why, when they are countered on places where alternate views arise, they lash out with such virulence and intensity. I'm thinking about FSU92Grad, for instance.
People who Love America, Her Freedoms, and a sense of Fair Play ... have a tendency to ignore Talk Radio.
Look at Air America ... they failed to gain an audience because Left Leaning, Progressive Americans are busy working, tending to their families.
Right Wingers sit and listen to Rush Limbaugh and these other Talk Radio Stations because they are either hanging around their homes doing nothing ... or else they are ignoring the needs of their families.
Just my opinion.
-
-
Neutral
CORVIDIVS1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
THIS WAS MY ORIGINAL POST:
Reply
"reply numero uno: there'd be more pulp for beeline 'novels...'
reply numero dos: there'd be attenuated opportunities for the dissemination of disinformation...
und tres: perhaps we would have to get real and actually communicate with each other..."
... of course what is embraced by quotes isn't totally accurate as I hadn't saved it to disc before posting... -
-
100%
jaern1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
If newspapers went away, I wouldn't miss them. If I'm not getting my news from the internet, I'm watching the TV news programs. The last time I bought a paper was when Obama won the election, I bought 2 Detroit papers and the Ann Arbor News to have as keepsakes to show my grandkids some day. Other than that the last time was 4-5 years ago.
Reply -
Neutral
CORVIDIVS1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
PERHAPS IT HAS RISEN THRU the mist: that I have an 'on-going'[to the dismay of John lecarre's Barley Scott Blair - a publisher found in leCarre's Russia house]'Hard' for journalists of almost any stripe - I've seen them destroy with abandon things better left untouched.
Reply
There, I have edited the word symbol 'on', distancing it from 'hard', rendering it indeed 'hard' to electronically or otherwise parse as invidious or objectionable... WHILST SOMEHOW MAINTAINING AN "ON-GOING" THREAD REGARDING[and indeed having to do with]A DISAPPEARANCE OF PULP NEWS MEDIA[or any OTHER,well intentioned 'organs' of same]into far perpetuity,over the horizon,til death do we,etc.,blah blah blah... -
100%
Spadecaller1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Even though I agree with Goppy on his talking points, I find the idea of making up lists for left wingers or right wingers repugnant and they tend to lead to stereotypes, rigid thinking, and intolerance -- all of which we have in abundance here on Propeller.
Reply-
71%
Goppy1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I see what you are saying Spade.
Reply
But I wanted to give a list of members who have made it abundantly clear that they are loyal to the Right as a way of giving GRAPHIC evidence to the PERCEPTION being promoted that Propeller is somehow blatantly Liberal.-
-
libsRfunnyComment removed: Hard Banned
-
-
-
-
100%
Tangent0011 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Left-leaning media? Right-leaning media? Both sides can come up with plenty of examples to support their side, which ironically, is the real reason serious journalism is in so much trouble in the US.
Reply
What we have in America are not media outlets governed by ideology, but outlets governed by PROFIT. It used to be that politics was the profession most populated by w-h-o-r-e-s. Now it is 'journalism'. Or did you think Fox came into existence to actually 'counter' the 'Liberal media'? Do you think Olbermann is there to 'counter' Fox?
There is no profit in relevant, investigative journalism anymore, which is why the BEST news comes from NPR or the BBC, where there is no profit motive.
The Right brings up the media being in the bag for Obama. Yeah, they were. Know why? Because Obama SOLD MAGAZINES. Period. McCain was just another old, white guy. This same media was in the bag for Reagan as well, but it wasn't a 'messiah complex' or being 'blinded by charm and celebrity' back then, oh no. Modern American media couldn't care less about the direction of the country, or forwarding a Socialist agenda, or bringing down all Republicans everywhere. They care about gaining audience.
When the stained dress hit the wire, this so-called 'Liberal media' turned on Clinton faster than a tequila bong turns on a college freshman. Now that the election is over, they'll turn on Obama in a heartbeat if he is anything other than the pristine prodigal son they have set him up to be. Kind of a self-fulfilling business model, don't you think?-
-
100%
DarkWizard1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Tangent001,
Reply
I agree with GehlLady that you have hit this one dead on. Unless you are a non-profit media outlet you are in it for profit and profit drives the "hot" item. And, advertisers want to hitch their wagon to whomever or whatever will get them the most exposure. So, then you have a perpetual media machine milking that hot item for all it's worth...literally.
-
-
-
ipodloverComment removed: Spammer, Hard Banned
-
100%
lovemylibs1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I'm very glad I missed this one. Suffice it to say, newspapers have made their own beds. I could reference 9,000 studies that point to a liberal bias in most newspapers. This bias has lessened over the years but is still prevalent. The bigger problem these days is that newspapers are just not relevant. There is a time lag in the newspaper business. Most of us here read tomorrow's headlines before they even ring the deadline bell at the gravure. I will always maintain my subscription, though, because nothing goes better with a cup of joe than the daily paper with it's smudgeable ink.
Reply-
100%
DarkWizard1 year ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
lovemylibs,
Reply
"Most of us here read tomorrow's headlines before they even ring the deadline bell at the gravure."
Agreed. I can read an article from several different perspectives online before it hits my door the next morning. Ain't technology grand?!
-
-
loading ...
Add a Comment
Sign In With Your Propeller Account
Please keep your comments relevant to this story.
To create a live link, simply type the URL (including http://) or email address and we will make it a live link for you. You can put up to 3 URLs in your comments. Line breaks and paragraphs are automatically converted — no need to use <p> or <br /> tags.