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Goppy1 year ago
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This might be good for one reason. ... ... There are far too many Newspaper owners who are Right Wing Ideologues pushing their Right Wing Perspective through their newspapers.
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For instance, our local paper is the only one in town. The owner was a major financial backer of George W. Bush.
Conrad Black - an extreme extremist right wing nut - was buying newspapers all over the US and Canada. He made no bones that his purpose was to push a far right wing message.
And he was well on his way .......... until he wound up in jail .... for other reasons. Most notably ... theft and duplicity.
Here in our town, every election, it's the same thing ... they endorse every single Republican ... without question. They've lined up every right wing pundit out there ... from Kathleen Parker ... all the way to Walter Williams ... (a nut that has moved so far to the right, he's practically an anarchist.).
Propeller is nice because there are many clear thinkers who expose me to various stories I would not otherwise know about --- given that Corporations ... and friends of Corporations control the spigot of information ... and direct it's flow ... to benefit their Right Wing friends.
For instance, the Right Wing Controlled Mainstream Media refused to talk about how George W. Bush got the city of Arlington to raise taxes to build HIM and his partners a brand new stadium.
When you hear the Right Wing extremists on Propeller chant the word 'Socialism' when they talk about Obama ... I had the information that GW owed his fortune to Socialism.
I also read on the internet how George W. Bush stole 200 acres from middle class citizens in Arlington by using Eminent Domain.
Later, it was through the internet that I learned about John McCain's stunning behavior in his early days.
So ... when the Right Wing Extremists on Propeller began to promote John McCain ... I was able to point out how odd it was that they supported a known adulterer ... when they demonized Clinton for his adultery.
Yes, the Right Wing Bias of Mainstream Media is real -limiting the free flow of information. The internet in general ... and my friends on Propeller represent the REAL Freedom of Information .... and have been a true Information Lifeline to me.
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hyperbola1 year ago
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On the internet you could have learned that Conrad Black is a right-wing zionist wingnut that was caught (and convicted in court) of producing false propaganda documents in the run up to the Iraq war. This propaganda (and the conviction) were first published in a Black newspaper in Britain, but Black used his zionist mouthpiece in the US (NY Sun) to sluice it into our news where it was then widely propagated by Murdoch and Fox News. While the subsequent exposure of the propaganda and the convictions were widely covered in Britain, you may be sure that Murdoch and Fox did not tell Americans about this.
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Black was also intimately involved in another zionst propaganda campaign (the UN oil-for-food "scandal"). This was also first published in Britain and sluiced into the US by the same zionist route. Once again Fox and Murdoch did not tell Americans that court convictions (and damage payments) ensued from that propaganda campaign.
Black has, of course, since been convicted and jailed for financial fraud (a Bernie Maddof type). Remember that people like Reichard Perle, (also an israel-firster in our government, member of PNAC and instrumental in the pro-Iraq war propaganda), were associated with Black's financial and propaganda escapades. -
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slate1 year ago
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Here in our town, every election, it's the same thing ... they endorse every single Democrat ... without question. They've lined up every right wing pundit out there
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You know how it is, some are from the right and moat are from the left,,,,, what you only want papers that are left leaning?
Heck you don't even want to stop there, you want to kill talk radio. In an Article yesterday Dan Rather said the MSM was controlled by those on the hill do you want to kill the last venue that may not be? -
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Goppy1 year ago
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slate, who said the Right Wing Newspapers were sneaky?
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They don't sneak about it at all.
They are 'in your face' .... astonishingly arrogant ... that THEIR way is the CORRECT way.
And I certainly don't know what you are referring to when newspapers take the left side of any issue 90% of the time. I've given you examples of how this is not true.
If you live in a city with a LIBERAL newspaper ... consider yourself part of a dying breed. The 'populist' newspaper has been on it's way out for decades.
And who are you referring to when you say 'you guys'? I'm an advocate for OBJECTIVE ... RATIONAL news dissemination.
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slate1 year ago
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LOL so you don't think the left wing media isn't in our face?
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It's all about sales in the end, apparently more people want to take out adds in papers and other news sources that lean more to the right.
Populist? Yeah the left view is for the 'people' and the right is against the 'people? That's the problem with those on the left, they think only their ideas are righteous and and views from the right are evil, hey kinda like here. -
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slate1 year ago
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For instance, the Right Wing Controlled Mainstream Media refused to talk about how George W. Bush got the city of Arlington to raise taxes to build HIM and his partners a brand new stadium.
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Hmmmmmmmm Yeah George is 'different' not one other sports team in the US has tax payer built stadiums!
That's why I gave up sports in this town, we have 3 going on 4 now. Yeah Bush what a slick one sneaking in taxes to pay for a stadium. -
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Goppy1 year ago
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Gosh slate ... it appears I've struck a chord.
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Please don't assume that simply because I'm dismayed at the Right Wing Control of Media that I wish for a LEFT Wing Control.
I'm not prone to extremes. I'm simply longing for balance. After all, I'm a Centrist.
As far as you minimizing George W. Bush having the City of Arlington build him and his partners a stadium by raising taxes .... I have two questions....
1) - Does it or does it not represent the kind of Socialism that Right Wing Propeller-Heads so often squeal about?
2) - Isn't it ironic that George W. Bush ... ... ... an ideologue so opposed to government involvement, he reined in the SEC and minimized FEMA's response to Katrina ... ... ... and yet ... when it was convenient for him ... ... ... he involved the city government COMPLETELY to achieve his PERSONAL financial goals?
Follow up to question 2
2a) - Doesn't his behavior PROVE that Neo-Cons don't even believe in the BS they say they stand for?
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slate1 year ago
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LOL you didn't strike a chord I'm just having a debate with you and pointing out the other side of the topic. Why is it you only mention what you think of a right bias but not left bias. I'd say the statement of (I'm simply longing for balance) isn't entirely true
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Goppy1 year ago
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You're wrong. I AM simply looking for balance.
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Or, let's put it this way ... if you seem my comments as representing a desire for Media having a Left Wing Bias ... then I MUST conclude that you are demanding a Media with Right Wing Bias ... ... ...
Perhaps you've hit on the essential problem . . . . perception and mistrust. -
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CORVIDIVS1 year ago
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"So ... when the Right Wing Extremists on Propeller began to promote John McCain ... I was able to point out how odd it was that they supported a known adulterer ... when they demonized Clinton for his adultery."
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... so what's wrong with a little adultery here & there,unless one be breeder stock, relying on propagation of an inherently arrogant,destructive species to pad the future with nice fluffy things that don't in any way discommode a sense of sexual security... perhaps a demonizing of adultery be geared only to a male dominated setup in order to keep womenfolk at the hearth... just a little boxin' day ramble...the permutations of this topic go over the horizon... -
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hyperbola1 year ago
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Actually Goppy, I don't find the right-wing versus left-wing distinction very useful in understanding American newspapers (or other media outlets). It is much more useful to think of them as purveyors of "corporate interests" (that is who owns them and who runs things like Associated Press).
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Given their corporate masters, it is no surprise that right and left both peddle things like military imperialism and financial elitism. "Right-wing" sources sell that to us using "pledges" that try to make you join a sect-like attitude (God, flag and military). "Left-wing" sources sell that to us by trying to convince us that it is our duty to "do good in the world".
Real news and opinion that counters the corporate media mindset is fully self-censored in our mass media. -
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chevydog1 year ago
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Hey Goppy -- Very articulate. But that's what we have brains for. All sorts of people --right wing, broken-wing, "conservative", "liberal", etc. can voice stuff of value and worth reflecting on. That to me is the beauty of newspapers. One can read stuff at leisure, have time to sit back and digest it, and ask the question "Does that make sense?" If it turns out that it does, one can at leisure figure out where it fits in one's view of things.
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You can't do that with the internet, or with TV, or radio. Those things pass quickly. No time for reflection--just accept or reject. As a sort of cynic/skeptic, I kinda think that's why political campaigns have been using it more and more. They really don't want you to think. It's great to keep the troops aroused ; but not so much if you want to sit back and maybe ask questions. In many modern political campaigns, neither the emperor nor the emperor-alternate may turn out to have a full compliment of clothes. Anything either side can do to hide this is a useful tool. -
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hyperbola1 year ago
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And Goppy, it is not only the written media that "self-censored" in the US. The same thing happens in our musical media. Try to imagine this band and songs, which are very popular in the spanish-speaking world, being performed in the US.
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SkaP Tio Sam (Incontrolable)
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=QKGyUryeLmw
Intifada-Ska-p
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