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truthiness12 months ago
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"While … air strikes by Israeli Defense Forces in Gaza can be understood and even justified in the wake of recent rocket attacks," according to Ben-Ami, "we believe that real friends of Israel recognize that escalating the conflict will prove counterproductive, igniting further anger in the region and damaging long-term prospects for peace and stability."
a rational point. the right of all people to self defense is unquestionable. as is the right of all people to self-determination and liberty. which 'should' amount to a simple two state solution with a mutual non-aggression treaty.. but rational thought doesn't seem to operate in the middle east very well.
and kudos to hyper for finally offering a balanced article that supports his point from rational minds rather than finding the most extremist anti-semite and self hating wacko jews to quote.
now, an equally balanced article about the palestinian side of things and I might start to believe you are interested in peace and justice in the region as opposed to just hating on jews which your traditional M.O. leads me to believe.-
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Justice4All12 months ago
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Yes, hyper get's a little passonate at times. But overall he is usally fairly balanced and I enjoy his articles and information. When people take a more objective approach their information is more credible.
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When people post insults or respond to facts and logic with insults I tune them out. The insults are simply rage at knowing they are wrong and have no facts to support their opinions. I think perhaps that's the religious approach. Strong belief in something but no facts to back it up. -
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hyperbola12 months ago
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Do you consider this professor at Tel Aviv University to be a self-hating anti-semite? How about all the Israelis who made it one of Israel's most popular books? Anti-semites too?
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When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?
No one is more surprised than Shlomo Sand that his latest academic work has spent 19 weeks on Israel's bestseller list – and that success has come to the history professor despite his book challenging Israel's biggest taboo.
Dr. Sand argues that the idea of a Jewish nation – whose need for a safe haven was originally used to justify the founding of the state of Israel – is a myth invented little more than a century ago.
An expert on European history at Tel Aviv University, Dr. Sand drew on extensive historical and archaeological research to support not only this claim but several more – all equally controversial.
In addition, he argues that the Jews were never exiled from the Holy Land, that most of today's Jews have no historical connection to the land called Israel and that the only political solution to the country's conflict with the Palestinians is to abolish the Jewish state.
The success of When and How Was the Jewish People Invented? looks likely to be repeated around the world.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/09/when-and...-
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truthiness12 months ago
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arguing that the jews were never exiled from the holy land makes him sound like a kook to me, since that is a matter of historical record.. the romans were very good about keeping records of everything, just like the US govt today. after the second major revolt, the roman's exiled the jews and destroyed the temple (leaving the current wailing wall)
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the part about no historical connection, definitly a kook, possibly self-hating (don't now well enough) since the sheer volume of historical documents and archaeological evidence connecting the hebrews to that land makes such an argument silly.
this is the land of the hebrews as much as it is the land of the palestinians.. which is why a two state solution is just and reasonable. anyone who argues for the elimination of israel, regardless of heritage, is either a hater or a nutcase.-
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hyperbola12 months ago
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Sorry truthiness, but anyone who argues for a "jewish state" (especially one based on massive ethnic cleansing of christians and moslems) is no different than those who argued for a "white, democratic" state in South Africa.
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Your statements make it clear that you subscribe to "if it is my tribe, it cannot possibly be wrong" racism.
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