She's home from jail, but Lynndie England can't escape Abu Ghraib | The Guardian »
Posted By gamahuche 11 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsIt is almost two years since England returned home after serving half of a three-year sentence for maltreating prisoners at Abu Ghraib. In mid-December, a report by the Senate armed services committee concluded that, contrary to the US government's assertion that a few "bad apples" were to blame for abuses at the prison, responsibility ultimately lay with Bush officials, including the defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld, for policies that "conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees". (A spokesman for Rumsfeld rejected the findings as "unfounded allegations against those who have served our nation".
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Beatles111 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thank god, maybe people will begin to realize that Lynndie is NOT the bad apple, and will begin to turn the eyes on the Bush White House like Frodo did to Mordor. It is time for the class warfare to end against Ms. England and the likes of Cheney and Rumfeld learn what it is like to answer for their policies. The woman needs to get on with her life and be given the opportunity to truly tell her story - maybe then she can finally be able to financially support her much cherished son....The following conclusion is the last paragraph in the recently released bi-partisan Senate Armed Forces investigation (headed by Carl Levin and John McCain) in to the abuses at Abu Ghraib:
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Conclusion 19: The abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib in late 2003 was not simply the result of a few soldiers acting on their own. Interrogation techniques such as stripping detainees of their clothes, placing them in stress positions, and using military working dogs to intimidate them appeared in Iraq only after they had been approved for use in Afghanistan and at GTMO. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s December 2, 2002 authorization of aggressive interrogation techniques and subsequent interrogation policies and plans approved by senior military and civilian officials conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees in U.S. military custody. What followed was an erosion in standards dictating that detainees be treated humanely.-
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gamahuche11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thank you for that quote.
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For the most part I agree with your analysis regarding Ms England's case.
She was obviously also made a sucker of by "Specialist" Graner who remains a far more sinister character..
In terms of the world's perception Ms England's smile was not very helpful, however.
IMO this will never be resolved till the whole issue of torture has been thoroughly dealt with from the top down - meaning Rumsfeld and possibly GWB too.
As repulsive as the Abu Ghraib story was the whole world of secret renditions - to countries CHOSEN for their long practice of cruel and degrading punishment - plus the Guantanamo saga, naturally, will have to be expiated before.
Karma is karma or blood will have blood or however you want to define it.
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edrod3811 months, 3 weeks ago
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NO ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED FOR ANYTHING. THIS IS WAR AND **** IS GOING TO HAPPEN. BOTH SIDES WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKE TO KEEP FROM GETTING KILLED. THE TERROREST ARE DOING EVERYTHING AGAINST THE GENEVA CONVENTION'S RULES OF WAR AND NO ONE IS PROSCUTING ANY OF THE ********. IF GOVERNMENT WANTS OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN TO WIN THIS WAR, THEN STAND UP FOR THEM OR BRING THEM HOME. **** THE MUSLIMS, THE LIBERAL AND THE ACLU.
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gamahuche11 months, 3 weeks ago
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Calm down old chap!
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All that shouting is going to give you an apoplexy if you're not careful.
Surely you have the energy and desire to decry a few other racial groups, political entities and organisations while you're at it?
Spreading your bile a little thinner will do wonders for the old blood-pressure and I've got a feeling that we've only seen the tip of the iceberg so far!
It might be a great idea though to bring your unique brand of invective to another thread so that they may also share the rich experience of your impassioned invective.
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flyonthewallzz11 months, 3 weeks ago
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/sto...
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I think this story is related and worth reading.
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"Despite demanding that he be kept anonymous, Joe's name was revealed to the American public on live television when then US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld thanked Joe Darby by name for handing in the photographs."
" However, once his name had been revealed, Joe said that "90 to 95 per cent of the soldiers in my unit shook my hand. It was back home where the backlash started.""
"Once reunited with his family, a Lieutenant Colonel asked him where he wanted to go, and Joe replied "home".
Joe said the Lieutenant Colonel's response made him realise just what his actions were going to cost him and his family when the officer said: "You don't understand son. You can't go home, you'll never be able to go home."" -
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Beatles111 months, 3 weeks ago
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I can understand Darby's fear of Graner. Lynndie is no one he must fear. She just wants to find a job....why is it that so many in America will only focus on her? Yes, I know it is the pictures, but that is all she participated in. Dumb, yes? A torturer, NO. The true villans are Cheney and Rumsfeld. Does anyone analyze the evil grin of Cheny when he says "so what" when admitting there were no weapons of mass destruction?
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