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lovemylibs11 months, 2 weeks ago
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I hope you don't mind but I clicked through from your advertisement on the Panetta thread. I read the story and saw this:
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"• A 2006 survey by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that 70 percent of evangelicals believe there is solid evidence that the Earth is getting warmer."
Doesn't this statistic indicate that you might be painting Christian Conservatives with too broad a brush?-
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memestryker11 months, 2 weeks ago
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I think it has more to do with whatever ultimately constitutes a personality and a human being than evangelism. Some people believe whatever their parents and minister/rabbi/imam/elder tell them and others are more likely to think for themselves--and it's on a continuum, with peer pressure and appearances having a significant role (human nature).
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I saw a figure that about 24-27% of Americans consistently believe their folktales trump science. That's good news for the solar system and its inhabitants. -
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Dionys11 months, 2 weeks ago
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""• A 2006 survey by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that 70 percent of evangelicals believe there is solid evidence that the Earth is getting warmer."
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Doesn't this statistic indicate that you might be painting Christian Conservatives with too broad a brush?"
Ten dollars, howver, says that (contrary to all the scientific evidence) almost all of that 70 percent believes it to be a part of the natural cycle rather than anthropogenic.-
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lovemylibs11 months, 2 weeks ago
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You would have to define your "almost all" qualifier for me to take that bet. I'll bet it's considerably less (my qualifier) than you think. Want to bet on that?
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Now, here's a safe bet. The guy who wrote this article that was on The Huffington Post, is not a Christian Conservative. I'll offer you 10 to 1 odds and I'd like to make the wager for $1,000. Are you game, Dionys? Here's the article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harold-ambler/mr-gor...
You see, Dionys, it's evident that this should not be a political issue. There are many Democrats and Independents that don't believe in man-made global warming just as there are many Republicans that do believe in it.
I do many things to limit the carbon output that my activities produce. I try to be a responsible dweller on planet earth. But I would like to see less politicization of this issue. That, in my opinion, is the main problem that "almost all" of my fellow Republicans have with the issue.-
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Dionys11 months, 2 weeks ago
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"You would have to define your "almost all" qualifier for me to take that bet. I'll bet it's considerably less (my qualifier) than you think. Want to bet on that?
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Sure.
My almost all equals 87.5% or better of all peer-reviewed science published in peer-reviewed science journals.
"I do many things to limit the carbon output that my activities produce. I try to be a responsible dweller on planet earth. But I would like to see less politicization of this issue."
That's great. I agree in that there should be less politicization of the issues of global warming, carbon emissions, pollution, et cetera. As long as something actually gets done other than giving corporations a free pass.-
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lovemylibs11 months, 2 weeks ago
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You're switching your references, now. Your "almost all" originally was in reference to how many of the 70% believed natural versus man-made causes.
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Your new "almost all" references 87.5% of scientists of peer reviewed science journals.
How can one make a bet with you if you keep changing the parameters of the bet?
I'm glad that you agree there should be less politicization of this issue. I am willing to support holding corporations accountable as long as that goofy carbon offset idea isn't used. It's a politically silly tactic.
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