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Several days into Israel's military operation in Gaza, The Real News speaks to Phyllis Bennis about the conflict. After giving a brief background on the events that led to the invasion of the Gaza Strip, Phyllis explains the various ways in which the United States facilitates Israel's activities. According to Phyllis, it is the unquestioning military and political support from Washington that makes Israel's actions possible.

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    jovial5 months, 4 weeks ago

    Phyllis Bennis is a Senior Analyst at the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington DC. She is the author of Before and After: US Foreign Policy and the September 11 Crisis and Challenging Empire: How People, Governments, and the UN Defy US Power.

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    Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 4 weeks ago

    For me the question addressed here "where do you start the clock?" has always been the bone of contention. I don't have an honest answer, yet regardless the violence must stop. I understand it- if your son or father were killed by a group of people how can you be expected to NOT hate them, retaliate?
    Yet no one gains anything through the violence.
    Somehow, some way, it must stop.
    All I can say is Ghandi and Martin Luther King won their wars.
    And the reverberations are still being felt today.
    Napoleon lost his.
    There is more to be learned from Gandhi than from Napoleon.

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    Poulenc5 months, 4 weeks ago

    Putting the issue of enabling aside, for a moment only, and if I may quote myself from another thread:

    the conflict can't end until both sides favor peace more than they're willing to tolerate war.

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    Progressive5 months, 4 weeks ago

    War does not determine who is right, it only determines who is left.

    -Chinese proverb

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    rightfromwrong5 months, 4 weeks ago

    it is true that if the USA took a neutral stance in the middle east...Israel would have to abide by the UN resolutions.
    The USA continues to give billions in aid to Israel and carte blanche on weapons(free)and the latest technology.

    Hardly a just policy on the part of the USA

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    silvergator5 months, 4 weeks ago

    According to Ms. Bennis,if mexicans started showering rockets on Texas and California,The US should refrain from attacks on mexico and understand that Texas and California used to be part of Mexico and no doubt the issue should be submitted to the UN.

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    reallypsst5 months, 4 weeks ago

    The Palestinians cant survive with radical militants running the country,so long as hamas keeps firing on israel.the only way is to get rid of these fanatics so peaceful Palestinians can rebuild their lives and gain respect from the world,right now they are viewed as militants themselves and are incapable of a government that represents the majority of Palestinians!

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    reallypsst5 months, 4 weeks ago

    The Palestinians cant survive with radical militants running the country,so long as hamas keeps firing on israel.the only way is to get rid of these fanatics so peaceful Palestinians can rebuild their lives and gain respect from the world,right now they are viewed as militants themselves and are incapable of a government that represents the majority of Palestinians!

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      Spadecaller5 months, 4 weeks ago

      There is one haunting reality that gnaws at me each time I read or see George Bush Jr. justifying the wars with Israel and Iraq; I know that U.S. corporations provide many of the weapons, the missiles, the mortars, the rockets, the guns, and the ammunition for all the participants involved in the fighting, which Hamas, Hezbollah, and Israel use against each other.

      The idea of long protracted wars that have no possibility of a definitive solution -- are the perfect means for generating ongoing revenue for the warmongers machinery to stay in operation. The business of war preys on the hatred of bitter rivalries. The Iraq and Vietnam wars were never wars that needed to be fought, but they were sold to the American people by lies and fear mongering.

      The Israeli and Palestinian people are also being exploited; not just by their militant fundamentalist leaders,or by vengeance, bigotry, and hatred, but by the corporations that profit from their fighting.

      Did Dick Cheney and George Bush Jr. ever really care about weapons of mass destruction? Of course not. They care about making money. Does Bush really want peace in the middle east?
      He dosn't give a rat's ass; he is a ruthless business man.

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      Spadecaller5 months, 4 weeks ago

      Where do we start? A year ago, 25 years ago, 50, or 2000 years ago...I think it is an academic question for an historian to play with. Should we consult the American Indians for the answer?

      The question that concerns me more is: where do we end it?

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      Endoscopy5 months, 4 weeks ago

      This fool keeps saying go back and stops in 1967. Lets go back to the Balfour document. Britain was going to give the land west of the Jordan to the Jews and the land west of the Jordan to the Muslims. That was legalized by the League of Nations. Then WW2 came along and after that the size of the Jewish land was shrunk. The two countries were set up in 1948. Immediately as the British ships were leaving the harbor the Muslim countries surrounding Israel attacked with the avowed aim of driving the Jews into the sea and killing them there. Keep in mind that some Jews have been living there for over three thousand years. More Jews had been returning to Israel for the last two or three centuries.

      The Muslim avowed aim is to destroy Israel and put a Muslim government in place. They have been attacked many times. What the Hamas charter says is the aim of the Muslims. Destroy Israel and no other solution is acceptable. Go and read the charter. It is on line.

      This person made a big deal about the IDF making plans to conquer Gaza. All military organizations make those kinds of plans. Our pentagon has plans to defend or attack all kinds of places. They routinely redo these plans as situations change. So that was a red herring.

      That person ignores what the people from Gaza have done under Hamas. They send out suicide bombers and missiles. That cease fire was a cover to dig a tunnel but that was found and Israel stopped the digging. Why was the border closed? They found missiles and weapons going in under cover of medical supplies. Also some suicide bombers came out of there.

      This person ignores the history of Israel being attacked from the start of the country. Why.

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      Endoscopy5 months, 4 weeks ago

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        jovial5 months, 4 weeks ago

        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/06/opinion/...

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        DarkWizard5 months, 4 weeks ago

        Hate doesn't need a reason, it just needs a target. I'm not choosing sides because the issues are much more complex than where one starts the clock.

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        Locky125 months, 4 weeks ago

        I'd like to know where was the outrage since 2006 when Hamas decided to lob a few thousand rockets into Israel.

        I guess Israel should just shut up and put up with it.
        They're simply not allowed to do anything effective against it.

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        crghss5 months, 4 weeks ago

        People, People, people. There is only one question. The only issue is the right of return. I think if Muslim Arabs accepted Israel and not demand the destruction of Israel through violence or the right of return this whole thing would be over tomorrow. But Muslim Arabs, amongst others, know if they can get the right of return for Arabs then they could destroy Israel. That is why Israel will never allow it.

        I say all out war till one side capitulates. As in any other war in the history of man.

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        getreal15 months, 4 weeks ago

        Someone,Please tell me that our country can manufacture something besides war materials.

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        KingofQueensS605 months, 4 weeks ago

        heartofsword1980 , fat chance. As Bennis rightly reveals, Israel *started planning for this latest incursion weeks ago* before any rockets were fired from Gaza. These are systematic efforts by Tel Aviv to eventually appropriate that land. Plus, you don't cut off food and water to those people unless you are purposefully BAITING THEM into conflict. *Any* arguments on behalf of Israel in this latest conflict are moot.

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          EDWARDIII5 months, 4 weeks ago

          I wonder if Obama is looking forward to the opportunity to be the president under whom Israel ceased to exist.

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            truthfirst5 months, 4 weeks ago

            As God's chosen people Israel will never cease to exist as long as the Lord has a plan for Israel which goes all the way back to Abraham.

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            HMMace5 months, 4 weeks ago

            YOU CAN REST ASSURED--THIS WOMAN IS EITHER A MUSLIM--PALISTINIAN--OR BOTH,
            JUST BECAUSE SHE SAYS SOME TING--DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE--IN FAVCT--I BELIEVE SHE IS AN OUT RIGHT LIAR...NOT WORTH LISTENING TO FOR SURE..AND--WHO EVER POSTED THIS IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED EITHER..
            I AM 81 YRS OLD--AND I REMEMBER THE PALS SHOOTING AT JEWISH SCHOOL BUSES FIFTY YEARS AGO...THE PALS ARE ANIMALS..HECK--EVEN ANIMALS DO NOT SEND THIER YOUNG TO DO THIER WORK...
            WHEN DID THE PALS LAST BUILD A SCHOOL??? CAN NOT EDUCATE THE PAL KIDS--THEY MAY REALIZE HOW DUMB THIER PARENTS ARE..

            LONG LIVE ISREAL...

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            KingofQueensS605 months, 4 weeks ago

            excellent work the "Real News" team - i have not heard anything like this from for eg. the BBC. in this matter they have forgotten the historical context - and sadly they do it (forget context) on a daily basis. - that is why you the "Real News" team are so important to us all. - many thanks and keep up the good work. tony - nottingham uk.

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