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Posted By Radiofreeeuropa 1 year, 1 month ago in Religion
Religious beliefs are remarkably various. Taoists, Rastafarians, and Christians have as many differences as similarities, and there are many Christianities. But there only seems to be one atheism. It asserts on the basis of reasoned argument that belief in God is irrational. The "new" atheists - Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Daniel Dennett, for example - pit reason against faith, and declare for reason. But there is more than one way to skin a god, and there are many ways to be an atheist. I'm an atheist, but the exclusive reliance on reason in atheism strikes me as impoverished, unfortunate, and self-deluded.
After all, even if we simply define 'atheism' as the denial that God exists, this claim itself has corollaries and entailments of the largest scope. Atheism pictures the universe as a natural system, that is, a system not guided by intelligence, and not traversed by spirits: a universe, among other things, that yields to scientific explanation, because it consists of material objects operating according to physical laws. Atheism is taken up, in short, as part of a whole stance toward the universe, a theory of everything.
Belief and unbelief do not simply consist of a particular claim and its negation, but of different whole pictures of the world, from its most general organization to the particular character of each event. Such world-pictures cannot themselves be shown to be true or false by science, or indeed by any rational technique. They are all matters of faith, stances taken up by finite creatures with regard to the infinitely rich surround. One does not produce reasons for such things; one lives them.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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This is a very different view of a non theistic universe, a philosophical "faith based" non theism. Crispin Sartwell writes for various anarchist publications as well as rationalist ones.
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"Belief is, at its core, an emotional commitment to some claim or view. A creature without any desires or feelings would be incapable of making any judgments. An argument might bring someone to a commitment. But in order to believe you must do more than look at the argument, you must decide to live according to its results.
I think of the universe as a natural system. I think of it, on the basis of my own pointedly finite experience, as the scene of both evil and good, as a morally indifferent thing. It isn't bent on saving me, or damning me: it just is. Its truth sits outside me and within me: leaves me struggling to understand: makes every interpretation provisional. I find comfort in that as well as pain, wonder as well as loathing. That's my experience, and my atheism is a reflection of that experience, a way of keeping faith with it. But it's not an argument; it's an interpretation.
And in trying to be true to my experience, I'm trying to be true to its sources. The arguments come later. Religious people often give arguments - Saint Thomas Aquinas famously gave five - but it could not be more obvious that the belief comes first, originating in family, social and institutional context, desire and need. The arguments are rationalizations." -
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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I really like the summary-
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"My sense is that this is not the best of all possible worlds, that there is genuinely unredeemed, pointless pain. Some of it is mine.
By not believing in God, I keep faith with the world's indifference. I love its beauty. I hate its pain. I think both are perfectly real. This seems to me more or less like the kind of world you would get with no moral guidance, no omnipotent maker. I do not see any reason to suspend judgment: I'm here, and I commit. I'm perfectly sincere and definite in my belief that there is no God."
"I can see that there could be comfort in believing otherwise, believing that somehow all that suffering and death all makes sense, that everyone gets what they deserve, and it all works out in the end. But to believe that would be to betray my deepest experiences, my real commitments. That's why I am an unreasonable atheist."
Personally my experience is a little different, I fall in the category mentioned briefly - Many people claim a God created the universe, I simply don't make that claim. I don't see this as an act of faith in any sense though I know there are those who claim it is...possibly even this author. I must agree that my observation of the universe and the microcosm that is my neighborhood in it, look more like chaos theory - quantum mechanics - and indeed anarchy than the creation of an all powerful entity. Order derived from chaos, which has been visualized through fractals and indeed even weather predicting is observable and real.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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My groping attempt at a synthesis is suggested by Chaos Theory, which holds to the axiom that reality itself subsists in a state of ontological anarchy. This model seems to be the elusive "theory of everything".
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"The one gave birth to the two, the two to the 10,000 things" -- but all this IS the tao & nothing but the tao. Yin & yang have no being in themselves, but act as interpenetrating modalities of the tao. The real/unreal dichotomy enslaves us in false consciousness. Looked at from one point of view, nothing is real; from another point of view, everything is real; from another, "nothing is real except the Real"; from yet another, "I am the Real" (ana'I Haqq, a sufi "koan"). These "semantricks" create a set of paradoxes -- and the resolution will give us an essentially metalinguistic certainty of being's oneness. Such oneness cannot be structured or defined in any way. It has no "ruler" and no "laws". It is ontological anarchy. I think Chaos theory in a sense "proofs" or at least mirrors eastern philosophies. (Which are not necessarily theistic).
On a mathematical or statistical level, the chaotic nature of reality may manifest as randomness; I suspect it manifests in the Uncertainty Principle as well. Whatever the truth of these speculations, I feel that Chaos Theory & Quantum Theory are moving closer & closer together and in some way reflect my beliefs about the nature of the universe, the nature of man's societies, as well as being observable in nature in both macro and micro forms. (Is this evidence that the alchemist's "as above, so below" is an even deeper epiphany than it appears on the surface?) If this is so, then we may be able to predict some social implications of Quantum Theory as a "paradigm". And answer the questions posed by every seeker and philosopher through the ages. The answers, perhaps to everything, including man's quest for meaning (religion for some) is in Chaos Theory and ontological anarchy.
That's my view and I'm standing by it!
I suppose it begs the question... is Chaos God?.
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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Although I don't argue with the conclusion of the author, I've had a bit of trouble following his reasoning throughout the essay. He starts by stating:
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"Atheism is taken up, in short, as part of a whole stance toward the universe, a theory of everything. Belief and unbelief do not simply consist of a particular claim and its negation, but of different whole pictures of the world, from its most general organization to the particular character of each event. Such world-pictures cannot themselves be shown to be true or false by science, or indeed by any rational technique. They are all matters of faith, stances taken up by finite creatures with regard to the infinitely rich surround. One does not produce reasons for such things; one lives them. I propose an unreasonable and modest atheism, an atheism that relies not on supposed proofs and the lack thereof, but on a sense of the way the world is: an atheist faith."
It seems to me that the author confounds the simple denial of a supreme being, and the world view that most atheists seem to profess and concludes from that that atheism is just a different kind of faith. I don't want to deny his right to that kind of belief system, but I would argue that it's not universal among atheists.
I did not grow up in an atheistic family; I started out as a true believer, so atheism was not handed down to me by my parents as other faiths usually are, nor have I chosen atheism as a result of being thought evolution or any other scientific theory. It was religious education, the internal inconsistencies of religious dogma and the lack of fit between religious teachings and the world around us that led me away from religion. It happened before I had any real understanding of evolution and any knowledge of the theories about the origin of the universe. As someone wiser than me has said, if you come to the conclusion that a theory (or set of beliefs) is wrong, you have to reject it, even if you have nothing better to put in its place. I think that's what I did in my early teens, so I would say that atheism, at least for me, is simply lack of belief in a supernatural being.
By denying the existence of God, one doesn't have to subscribe to an "atheist belief system." There is no doubt that atheists tend to have similar ideas about the world, but in my view, that's just an attempt at understanding the world, and it's by no means uniform. That belief system about the world can differ from person to person in infinite ways. Do I believe in the Big Bang? I don't really know because I don't know enough about it. The world exists, there is no denying that, so somehow it had to come into being, but neither creation by a God who's always existed, nor being the result of matter that has always existed is very satisfactory as an explanation. In both cases we have to put an arbitrary stop to our inquiry and simply accept that "something" has always existed. -
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dotsie_d1 year, 1 month ago
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I have a spirituality. It keeps me balanced. There is good and bad, yin and yang. Religion I detest; it is group mentality--trying to identify with something. There is no market on a deity. So much of what is wrong with the world today has been done in the name of God, Jesus, Allah or Muhammed. It doesn't matter what name the deity goes by--so much evil has been done in its name. Therefore I believe in just the cyclical nature of things. What is and what isn't. There have been things that have happened to me that are Extraordinary, beyond scientific explanation, and I believe that there is something outside of me that allowed these things to happen. But I will not put a name to it nor worship it in any way other than my own, and I think religions are foolish and just a big means to further tax and govern people.
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Bkumm1 year, 1 month ago
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I am a strong proponent of the multi-verse hypothesis and thus it is impossible for me to think of there being one "god". Each universe may have a different set of physical properties which would mean that a being that is a "god" in one universe may be nothing more than a megalomaniacal loser in another. That being said, I do believe that there is something. What that something is, is certainly up for discussion.
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I don't think that any of the religions, paths, ritual ways, spiritual journeys or philosophical viewpoints have everything correct. And I don't particularly care if they do or not. I am much more concerned with the use to which religion is put than to whether or not it is correct. A person can believe that Jesus Christ came down from Heaven in the guise of Krishna to speak to Mohammed (PBUH) so that the Word could come to the animists of North America and that would be fine by me. However, the second, the instant that person tries to legislate their belief system into law they become my opponent and I believe the opponent of every advocate of free thought.-
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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"I do believe that there is something. What that something is, is certainly up for discussion. "
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I agree with you on this because of my life experiences.
I don't believe in the religious groups rendition of God, but I do believe in a "Universal Energy" that drives the forces at work in the universe.
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gamahuche1 year, 1 month ago
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Hey RF! As I mentioned in a PM I'm out of the picture really as far as any deep study of anything today.
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I've tried the "faith" route to a certain extent - attending a Religious, Royal and Ancient Foundation as a school does rather oblige one to at least take a look at all that.
However as soon as I learnt about Zen Buddhism thaty seemed like aMUCH more attractive alternative - whether it be zendo zen or street zen..
I also had a zen wedding, which was very agreeable - but had no legal validity.
As far as I was able to examine the article briefly, the following caught my eye:
"Belief and unbelief do not simply consist of a particular claim and its negation, but of different whole pictures of the world, from its most general organization to the particular character of each event."
Which it seems to me says that faith runs a wide spectrum and that it should not be an a priori system but rather be flexible enough to deal with whatever circumstance arises.
I can accept that! ESPECIALLY that faith should leave one free to do what is right at the time and not hobble one with doubts and worries and dears of everlasting hell and damnation if one should make a mistake!-
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
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Bkumm1 year, 1 month ago
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"I also had a zen wedding, which was very agreeable - but had no legal validity."
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Under U.S. law once you have a marriage certificate signed by someone allowed by the State to sign it and it is witnessed you're good to go as far as the law is concerned. Are you saying that there is a state in the Union that does not recognize Zen Buddhism as a religion? It isn't really, but the State wouldn't see it that way. Or does Europe have different laws in relation to weddings?
In any case, I'm a big fan of Buddhism in general. Also Wicca. Mostly I'm a big fan of the, "Do as you will an let it harm none", philosophy.
I'm also a fan of the idea that there are no absolutes, so each person must choose for themselves what is right or wrong for them. That is not a value system that most religions allow.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 1 month ago
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There is no god, only thousands of gods invented by con men, story tellers, kings, and tribalists to santify tribalism and inbreeding, to support political power systems of tyrants, and to control the minds of ignorant powerless slaves that are not the ruling class.
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Its real simple, there is no effing god. If you're too chickens...to realize this, that you only have one life and there is no afterlife, that religion is for babies and weak minded morons who can't face their own mortality, then you aren't worth your weight in invisible baby jew jesus feces.-
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Bkumm1 year, 1 month ago
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I understand what you're trying to say, but the way you say it is guaranteed to not sway any opinion. Now, that may not be your purpose. Perhaps your purpose is simply to anger and denigrate anyone who believes in a God, especially the Christian god. If so, your success is evident in your writing.
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However, if someone were to say to you that it is absolutely insane to not believe in Jesus the Son of God because of the evidence given to us by the Father in the inerrant Word of the Holy Bible, you would say they were crazy. If someone were to say to you that the evidence for an intercessory, personal God is around you every day and that only a mush headed idiot couldn't see it, you would be, rightly, upset. If someone said to you that only fools, arrogant fools and douchebags didn't believe in God, you would be, justifiably, angry.
My point is that although I strongly disagree with many of the religious, I no more have the right to denigrate them and put them down for their wrong-headed beliefs than they do to put me down for mine. When I do put them down for their beliefs, I fail. -
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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abw, I pos'd you, because I agree with what I think is your intent. However, your attacks on the valued icons of religion believers just results in a knee-jerk reaction so they only cling to them more.
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What they need is help seeing their indoctrination/brainwash, and you're just whipping up their negative emotions so they run to their belief for cover.
I sometimes am too hard on them, too. I just want them to see the brainwash--the indoctrination--and they don't want to see it.
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Spadecaller1 year, 1 month ago
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Thank God I have a choice to believe whatever I want. Just spare me from having to listen to those who like to preach and sell their beliefs, whether it be religious or atheistic.
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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I am a Christian. I don't like what "organized religion" has morphed into today, so i opted out. Not to say that i don't or won't attend a church, but that i don't get involved in the politics that's played in churches today.
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That said! I respect everyone's beliefs, or lack thereof. I think that as a Christian, it's my job to "try" to bring people into the fold, but as far as trying to "sell" my beliefs or force them on anyone, that's just not me.
I also think that there's a direct corolation between creationism and evolution. My take on creation is... A clap of
God's hand could have been the big bang, and then after He was done creating, He just sat back and allowed evolution to take it's course.
My life experiences helps me to KNOW (for myself) that there is a supreme being. In what form? I have no idea. Faith is a very personal thing for me, i assume that a lack of faith is also personal and i try to respect that.
Thanks for the invite RFE.. Very interesting article, well written.-
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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Well said n2n, I agree and know where your coming from.
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Don't you just hate the atheists jabbing at you??? I can't understand why they feel the need to ridicule and put "Faith" in a power bigger than us as degrading to us and making us dumb.
I have had a "Miraculous" healing, I should be dead.....I remember every miracle God did over the last 10 years to get me here, yet they want a test??? You don't ever test God, you may not like the results. -
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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"I think that as a Christian, it's my job to "try" to bring people into the fold, but as far as trying to "sell" my beliefs or force them on anyone, that's just not me."
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As an atheist, it's my job to "try" to educate people about the nature of belief and the natural world (because I say it is)! So I have a lot of discussions with religious people who try to bring me into their folds, but it never goes the way they might have anticipated!
I think religions serve a purpose, and unless it's encroaching on someone else's freedom, it's mostly benign for those who don't share the belief. But most world religions have become so rigid that their doctrine is usually showing rather than their wisdom.
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DarkWizard1 year, 1 month ago
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Some people look at the universe, our planet, and us as beings and see that as evidence of a God. Others look at the universe, our planet, and us as beings and see that as evidence that there is no God at all.
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Personally, I have seen things that are beyond the realm of human understanding and therefore am willing to entertain that anything is possible and must be given a moment of thought.-
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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I understand. I look at chaos theory and see an analogy that models everything-- an order out of the orderless, others see Charton Heston's disembodied head promising them milk and honey or eternal torture and damnation. You can not escape what you design I suppose.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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"Personally, I have seen things that are beyond the realm of human understanding and therefore am willing to entertain that anything is possible and must be given a moment of thought."
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Me to! I look at the Hubble telescope pictures of the universe and I see God......meaning, I see what I have seen in my mind during my meditation, prayer, zen peace, at one with times. -
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lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago
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I'm Agnostic, it's not that I can't decide (tho I believe one can't choose to have faith or not, you can choose a path to follow, you can walk the walk, talk the talk, but that means very little. Most people know if they truly believe or not.) I don't fall off the Agnostic fence because I can't possibly see how either can be proven or disproven.
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I have no problems with people who believe and those who don't,my closest friends are both Atheists and Christians and we do not judge each other or try and persuade each other.
I do have problems with people when they claim to be Christian, tho don't act like it and those who argue amongst themselves 'you're not a true Christian, my religion is real, your's isn't,I'm a better one then you, 'God' said/did this, no he didn't blah blah blah', instead of them just being happy to share the faith, they argue and fight about it. I don't think anyones belief/faith is exactly the same as anyone else's.-
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not2needy1 year, 1 month ago
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You're right lvr! There are Christians who go about passing judgement on other Christians.
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Your statement brought to mind a conversation i had with an old college friend a few years ago. She told me that my faith wasn't as strong as hers, or something to that extent! She and i haven't really been that friendly with eachother since then. I saw a side of her that i didn't like very well, and after she said what she did, i distanced myself from her.
HOWEVER, in her sanctity, she had no problem sleeping with other women's husbands!!! That's a whole nother story! LOL!
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Newperson1 year, 1 month ago
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I feel as people we all need something to belive in. I belive in god thats my choice. I do not push my way on no one else. I do not tote a bible everywhere I go and speak of hell and damnation.
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That is what makes this country so great in my eyes.we have a choice I only hope I can make the right ones-
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lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago
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Newperson, my question is, and I'm seriously asking this, (no sarcasm or anything negative) how did you make a choice to believe in God?? I mean I understand choosing a path, but how do you choose to believe?
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And for any Atheists?? I assume your not believing in any God(s) was not a choice you made, you just simply don't believe, is that right?
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aceofspades11 year, 1 month ago
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God is a human device used to explain the unexplainable, at least in the purest form of a belief in God. That is why the most primitive of societies & the most advanced both look for a God to guide them.
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The concept of God as practiced by organized religion is too complicated in both history & practice to fully discuss in this short forum.
Suffice to say, in modern society either you believe in a higher being (God or Gods) or you don't.
Gnostic means to know - agnostic means not to know , so agnostics are somewhere between believers & nonbelievers, I think they lean more towards a belief in a God.
I, for one am an atheist. Does that make me more or less of a person? I believe we are born. live our lives & die. Period. It is how we live our lives that determines our humanity & not how we worship any particular diety-
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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They looked for guidance, and some saw it different forms. A critical mass finally settled on a "god" metaphor. I disagree that "God" is just a "higher being." Higher being can refer to a transcendent state within the individual or a separate being outside the individual that pulls strings or rewards certain behaviors and punishes others, etc. That's why being specific when defining a "belief" is so important.
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I think that, to have a discussion, terms must be defined first, so that "God" is the patriarchal supernatural being from the revealed religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam), for example. Otherwise we can endlessly play with the potential multiple meanings of the metaphor and never have a real discussion--or true agreement--at all.
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reallypsst1 year, 1 month ago
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The problem has always existed and the answer has always been with us,your common sense live and let live you can respect any ones views and also disagree with them without prejudice and persecution,but many want to impose and dictate what cannot be proved till this day,so believe what you want but keep it within your own realm!
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mmrhe1 year, 1 month ago
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How do you explain things like children who see "spirits"?
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I was just talking to a friend last night about how his three year old son kept mentioning this "Alma" person to him and his wife.
They did a little research and found out they had a Great Aunt of that name whio had recently died at the ripe old age of 115!
This is not an uncommon occurance.
I know some people will reject this as nonsense but to me it proves their may not be a God, but somne kind of spiritual world or another plane of existence.-
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
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It's possible, but I'm yet to see any demonstrated evidence of it.
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In the case of the child you mention, had the family ever mentioned the passing of Aunt Alma? Children are great imitators, as many daycare teachers would attest, and they may mention things, perhaps combined with other things, that they heard months earlier. -
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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The Amazing Randi (A professional magician- prestidigitator) will give a million dollars to anyone who can present a shred of evidence...the offer has stood for decades.
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abeyasha1 year, 1 month ago
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Well I now know that GOD exists, from the very ways that atheist's propoganda by taking the name of GOD(except that it be in contrary terms) The latest, being their advertisements on buses in England. These people do not believe or are ignorant that in mankind's history many people have seen GOD. I guess the reason as to why people do not generally see GOD is because GOD wants it that way, he is not a spoon feeder as it is best that man does learns himself (not without some guidance). If one were to understand the first commandments given to Moses there is no greater freedom coupled with guidance life can ever get in those given words
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You know what, if these very atheists, after their death were to see GOD, what would they tell him " We did not say that GOD
did not exist, we only said GOD "probably" did not exist" very clever indeed & I wonder where they got their intillegence in the first place.-
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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I used to have an open mind about the supernatural but I got tired of picking my brains up from off the floor.
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I wonder why an omnipotent all knowing all seeing creature who is outside of the time space continuum cares whether a lesser developed entity such as myself not only decries it's existence but demands it be worshiped??? Er, I assume such a creature is more enlightened than I, ...and I could care less if in fact our identities were exchanged.
Can't fathom such a thing.
I guess my karma just ran over your dogma.
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Spadecaller1 year, 1 month ago
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Some people I know live their lives fearing hell and wanting to believe there is a heaven waiting for them. And, out of fear they often treat their neighbors with kindness. They live moral lives for the most part striving for the spiritual gold ring that will guarantee them a place in heaven.
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IF you had the power to prove their beliefs were wrong, are you so sure it would it be a good thing for them and for us?-
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 1 month ago
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"IF you had the power to prove their beliefs were wrong, are you so sure it would it be a good thing for them and for us?" Great question!
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lvrofwolves1 year, 1 month ago
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Spadecaller=IF you had the power to prove their beliefs were wrong, are you so sure it would it be a good thing for them and for us?
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No! I don't think that's nice at all, some people need their beliefs, it makes them feel strong, gives them comfort, gives them joy and hope, their beliefs can even help physically heal themselves. It would be cruel.
IF in fact they were as you say-treat their neighbors with kindness, live moral lives etc....
I have a very dear friend, very intelligent, speaks several languages and has friends in several countries. she lost her Daughter and tho she has so much love and support from family and friends, I really think her faith in God helped her get through it, gave her strength to go on, if not for that...I don't know how she would cope.
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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I think some of them could do great things by recognizing they have options that are not bound up in a supernatural house of cards. And others would not. But I think that people can be convinced to lead "good" lives without the use of intimidation and fear. In fact, anthropolical studies suggest that isolated groups who do not use intimidation, fear, physical punishment, etc. do just fine and are more peaceful and cooperative.
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Redneck1 year, 1 month ago
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FTA:"After all, even if we simply define 'atheism' as the denial that God exists, this claim itself has corollaries and entailments of the largest scope. Atheism pictures the universe as a natural system, that is, a system not guided by intelligence, and not traversed by spirits:..."
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Thus if there is no "intelligence" directing the universe or overseeing mankind then ... There Will Be No Accounting to the Creator. Man is not accountable to anyone but themselves.
This pride is condemned in the Bible. This is a refusal to face the fact that God has given every man a witness there is a Creator. One of the most intelligent men of centuries past said that it is logical from looking at the universe there IS a Creator and He will hold mankind accountable for what He expects from His Creation.-
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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"Consciousness creates reality." Von Neumann posits that only one kind of stuff exists, quantumstuff, & that ordinary objects are "made" of it.
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At some point the wave function, the all-possible nature of quantumstuff, "collapses" into a single statistical probability, a quantum jump which somehow "creates the world." Where does this occur? The only logical answer appears to implicate human consciousness as the setting of the wave function collapse.
God exists because you will it.
A snake oil salesman can sell his wares only because his clients want to believe not because it actually works.
Three monks decided to practise meditation together. they sat by the side of a lake and closed their eyes in concentration. Then suddenly, the first one stood up and said, "I forgot my mat." He steeped miraculously onto the water in front of him and walked across the lake to their hut on the other side.
When he returned, the second monk stood up and said, "I forgot to put my the other underwear to dry." He too walked calmly across the water and returned the same way. The third monk watched the first two carefully in what he decided must be the test of his own abilities. "Is your learning so superior to mine? I too can match any feat you two can perform," he declared loudly and rushed to the water's edge to walk across it. He promptly fell into the deep water.
Undeterred, the yogi climbed out of the water and tried again, only to sink into the water. Yet again he climbed out and yet again he tried, each time sinking into the water. This went on for some time as the other two monks watched.
After a while, the second monk turned to the first and said, "Do you think we should tell him where the stones are?"
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
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With people using religion as an excuse to kill and control each other worldwide, I'd say it's pretty high on many people's lists. Let me guess--you're male and straight, so religious doctrine isn't routinely used to limit your participation in life. Hence, it's no biggy for you.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 1 month ago
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Yeah, imagine that! More people comment on the meaning of life than a blog about motorcycle insurance...God (er propeller?, er it's users) are so unfair. They must be up to something.
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It's a (communist/liberal/conservative/disliked stereotype of your choice plot I tell ya'!
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