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Posted By Radiofreeeuropa 10 months ago in Science & Technology

The Theory Of Absolutely Everything
or
The Moon Is not There When No One Looks At It

There were six wise, blind elephants who were discussing what humans were like.
They could come to no agreement, so they decided to determine
what humans were like through direct experience.
The first wise, blind elephant felt the human, and declared, "Humans are flat."
The other wise, blind elephants, after similarly feeling the human, agreed.

Often called the Copenhagen interpretation. Objects, everyday real things, "float on a world that is not as real." (Bohr, Heisenberg.) The emphasis on uncertainty reminds me of Buddhism, at least the anti-realism aspect of it.

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    Radiofreeeuropa10 months ago

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    The universe of Quantum Physics is a strange and beautiful place.
    And you are at the center of the eye of the storm.
    Up is down.
    A mathematical equation that requires human consciousness as a major factor in it's solution.
    The Tao?
    Or Superstrings?
    Or are they the same?

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    greenmac10 months ago

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    Whoa...heavy stuff here!

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    Radiofreeeuropa10 months ago

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    The Crux of the Bisquick is that man's understanding of the physical universe is connected to the social fabric, economic systems, politics,arts,and spiritual systems he designs.
    That there are huge shifts in all of these things.

    What shifts can we anticipate because of the advent of quantum physics?

    Or is the realization of a quantum universe the result of a shift elsewhere...art...music...or are these simply random acts of synchronicity?

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    flyonthewallzz10 months ago

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    Radio:
    This is one cool ass piece of writing!
    I am one of those rare folks that actually applies Euclidian geometry to the real world on a daily basis. It kind of works as long as you do not step on it too hard with repetition too hard. Dealing with radiuses and circles is always cleaner if the formulas can be turned into triangles and the results are much more predictable than using Pi. (Pi is okay for estimating but sucks for actually cutting). The Fractal thing is something an old carpenter can relate to without a bit of hesitation. Kind of one of those “like no sh!t, of coarse things”. The pattern will progress and actually fall into the Vitruvian proportions.
    The Mandelbrot “bug” is real in my shop.
    It is funny that the numbers that play in the areas of circles and the “Golden Section” are all prime, and screw with my computer controlled machines.
    I dig it! I think God was screwing with us by giving us ten fingers, and we where dumb enough to base our system of counting on that.
    Math is definitely metaphysical. Symbols represent values.

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    Radiofreeeuropa10 months ago

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    How then do we understand the rise of the neocon politics? They certainly do not reflect even an awareness of a quantum universe.
    I posit that consciousness is like the physicist's "wave". That the extreme conservatism embodied in the politics of the last 30 years and the rise in popularity of fundamentalism is not an action, but a reaction. It's not the peak but rather, the trough.
    For many, the ideas of relativity have not even yet fully been mentally digested...there are proponents of these movements that are having trouble with Newton, let alone Einstein...and A quantum universe is way way way out of even a peripheral glance. These movements are the low water mark. A pathetic attempt to cling to the consciousness of a much older era.
    A rejection of scientific inquiry altogether. Imperialism...theocracy...torture...suspending Habeas Corpus and the like represent a yearning for the 12th century and it's paradigm.
    This is a Newtonian reaction (equal and opposite!)
    The advent of Quantum Mechanical thought pushes the human consciousness in one direction and it's opponents pull in the other.
    The quantum universe and the possible comprehension of it transcend these movements.

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    CRYMTYPHON10 months ago

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    Crymtyphon dons a tweed jacket, slaps a degree on the wall, pulls out a cherrywood pipe and poses against a statue of Sir Isaac.
    "Why yes, RadioFree, - of course I see what you suppose you are trying to express here."

    Professor Crymtyphon fumbles with the pipe, coughs.

    "I recall the poet Milton, blind you know, - wandered into a garden shed. He touched some rope, fell against a sheet of canvas, grabbed a garden hose, knocked against a pillar, and then came out insisting that there was an elephant in there!"


    Professor Crymtyphon drops the pipe, peers at the statue of Neuton, nerviously.

    The statue stares in the distance, with a gaze that sees
    eternity in a grain of sand.

    And there was an elephant in the shed.

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    myfairlady10 months ago

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    Communism led to a search for a new paradigm to explain the post-Cold War world.

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    Radiofreeeuropa10 months ago

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    Q: What's the difference between a quantum mechanic and an auto mechanic?
    A: A quantum mechanic can get his car into the garage without opening the door.

    The of course there's the Heineken Uncertainty Principle:
    You can never be sure how many beers you had last night.

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    alakazam10 months ago

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    Radiofreeeuropa10 months ago

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    A couple quotes from some of these anarchs:

    "I am afraid the knockabout comedy of modern atomic physics is not very tender towards our aesthetic ideals. The stately drama of stellar evolution turns out to be more like the hair-breadth escapades in the films. The music of the spheres has a painful suggestion of ... jazz."
    -- Arthur S. Eddington, Stars and Atoms

    "The more success the quantum theory has, the sillier it looks."
    --Albert Einstein

    "Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it."
    --Richard Feynman.

    "Physics is not difficult, it is just weird."
    - Vincent Icke in "The Force of symmetry"

    "I know that this defies the law of gravity, but, you see, I never studied law."
    -Bugs Bunny

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      slate10 months ago

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      I'm one of the lowly uneducated. For some reason to many, education can only be obtained in college.

      however I do love science and read things about these theories and the science channels are the ones I watch the most.

      The string theory has been around for some time and it keeps changing *more strings added to the theory'. Then you have to add the dark matter and multi universes to account for all the missing matter that should be in the universe and where all the gravity came from for the weakest force to be able to do what it does.

      So far it's all theory and you can be certain that it will be tweaked for some time in the future.

      Maybe the collider in Europe can come up with viable answers to many unknowns.

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      riverdog10 months ago

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      They say the physical 'reality' of which we are aware, is only 4% of the universe and the rest is dark matter or the space in between. Seems we have a ways to go in our understanding of the fundamental energy that permeates all. It would really be sad to think that humans are the pinnacle of creation and our 'religions' the outward expression of intelligence.

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        DeadXXXManXXXTalkin10 months ago

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        ''the space in between.''

        can anyone who read Lovecraft ever hear that and not think of HP?

        the spaces between the worlds...

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        truthiness10 months ago

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        I just reread an abstract on the Higgs Bosun, which I wish I had done before posting this as it had been several years since I had last read about it.

        the Higgs Bosun theory, corrected, is that there is a universal field which all particles must pass through in order for them to gain what we identify as mass. each field in the universe is itself made up of particles (e.g. electrons-electro magnetic field) so the Higgs Bosun Particle is the theoreticle Particle making up this first field giving mass to all other things.

        having reread this theory, I am reminded of the details of my thery many years ago when I first read Higgs theory. that the divine soul could be this original field they are searching for.

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          truthiness10 months ago

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          I remember reading about something called a Higgs-Bosun particle. the theory went like this (as I remember) when adding up the mass of each individual part of an atom (protons, electrons, weak, strong, etc) the total never equalled the total mass of an atom. It always came up short. the mass of an atom was always more than the sum of its parts.

          Higgs theorized that there is a Bosun particle which popped in and out of existence (my phrasing) too quickly to be measured individually, but so regularly that its mass registered as part of the total atomic mass.

          to me this seemed illogical. if it was disappearing/reappearing so fast we couldn't detect they change but the impression of existence was still felt, shouldn't its presence register as always being there? by analogy: if I could flick the light switch on and off so fast that you couldn't tell there was a change, wouldn't the light appear to always be on? (the reason it wouldn't appear to always be off is that there really is light being added to the room)

          so.. if we know that every atom has this unexplained extra mass without a corresponding material identifier. and that difference is the same in every atom. perhaps what we have found is the presence of the soul in all things. (an unseen force adding mass but not material to all life thereby making them more than the sum of their parts.)

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          Mutainia10 months ago

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          String theory, huh? Well, Mr. Atheist, who is making the music?

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          DarkWizard10 months ago

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          FTA - "Theoretical physics neither suggests nor denies man's notions of God or Gods."

          and,

          "Unlike Relativity, Quantum Mechanics offers no coherent ideas about "reality,"rather it gives us a set of tools for predicting, and statistical possibilities. The model of Quantum Mechanics "works" but Quantum facts remain inexplicable. The excitement lies in the way it has revived speculative philosophy as an integral component of science."

          The whole article was excellent, but I picked these two statements because of the constant bickering about universal facts. Only experts think they can argue amongst themselves and then enlighten the masses. Absolutely not true! If you look at most of the scientists we now revere, they went through some pretty hard times to get their theories published and/or accepted as mainstream. They were the oddballs of their day and not the norm. So, I say to the experts, espousing facts you may not even understand doesn't make you anything more than a reporter of what has happened.

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          Eagle_Eye10 months ago

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          Excellent post and what a wonderful thread of conversation.....I prefer this civil intellectual exchange of thoughts between one another, thank you, let's have more.

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