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Posted By jovial 11 months, 1 week ago in NewsIsrael is using Gaza as a test laboratory for a new "extremely nasty" type of weapon that "tears the tissue from the flesh", say two Norwegian medics.
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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Here's some damage done by these DIME munitions taken by an Italian website in 2006.
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WARNING!! These photographs are EXTREMELY graphic.
http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/inchieste/101020...-
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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Give me one racist posting. I just simply reported the news that so conveniently got left out of the press here in America, land of the free press. This story is all over the world. Is the whole world anti-semites? NO! It's just your own delusions in your mind! This story was carried on the AFP newswire and was picked up by numerous news services. So boo-hoo!
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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they don't want me to post it, but I'll try again.
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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I got more, but propeller doesn't like me to post multiple links.
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM...
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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AFP is like Reuters. They post a story and all the news agencies pick it up all over the world. Are you just maliciously acting dumb or is that your permanent condition. The place where the link to this post goes is to South Africa.
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Coatl11 months, 1 week ago
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Nope, it's not the same at all, I've been anti-US government for the past 8 years while I don't have anything aganist americans, I have family and dear friends who are americans. In the same way that sometimes I've been anti-Mexican government while I still love my country.
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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Here's a little known video about this Israel/Gaza conflict that is getting little media attention. Please watch this and draw your own conclusions.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboa...-
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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Sorry, here's a more direct link.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkdQbhB7Ckk
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sumptuousdigs11 months, 1 week ago
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That was a very graphic and gruesome report. I noted that the interviewee has 30 years experience treating battlefield trauma. That lends a lot of credibility to his charge.
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Still, why don't we wait for Israeligirl1's IDF post for the official 'truth'...Riiight....-
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AnteUp11 months, 1 week ago
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Hi sumptuousdigs ~
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Interesting that last week the IDF was denying any use of white phosphorus
in Gaza. This week Major Avidal Leibovitch gives an indirect answer, saying
Israel uses wapons according to international law. IMO - that's a LONG way
from, "No we don't". Sounds as if they ARE - and this week they seem to think
it is a defensible decision.
Phosphorus burns to the bone and cannot be extinguished with water -
it must be smothered with sand, etc.
Out of the current 900 plus dead in Gaza over ONE-THIRD have been
children - can you imagine the image of such carnage?
Unbelievable that my own nation would aid and abet such behaviour.
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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Here's the lowdown on the DIME weapon. It's wicked.
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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Here's the doctor's report on youtube.
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not2needy11 months, 1 week ago
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FTA:
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Gilbert also accused Israel of having used the weapon in the 2006 Lebanon war and previously in Gaza, and referred to studies showing wounds from the explosive could cause lethal forms of cancer within just four to six months.
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gamahuche11 months, 1 week ago
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The ONLY "good" aspect to this story is that it is out in the open now.
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From the beginning I was reading hints about "new" weapons.
I guess this puts the Israelis on the cutting edge - literally - of the latest war-technology and I do agree that the source of these should be investigated thoroughly and that whoever DID supply them, probably with the goal of doing outside-the-laboratory testing should be held responsible and culpable.
Meanwhile the crazies will continue to believe that this is a "just war".-
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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>Meanwhile the crazies will continue to believe that this is a "just war".
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I can assure you that I'm not a "crazie" but I strongly believe that as long as Hamas and other organizations of Palestinian militants insist that the war against Israel should continue IT IS A JUST WAR.
It would NOT BE JUST in case Hamas and other organizations of Palestinian militants were allowed to murder as many Israelis as they wish while Israelis would watch the carnage doing nothing.-
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Coatl11 months, 1 week ago
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I agree, the Israelis shouldn't just stop and watch their people die, but I think we can agree that this kind of actions just enforces Hamas position, I'm sure a lot of people who didn't have anything to do with Hamas are now singing in just for some revenge for their lost ones. This war doens't really help to improve Israel's position too much, It probably will calm the things a while until Hamas grow strong again or any other group similar or wrose rise again. And seeing the devastation and the number of people killed, this has just helped to feed the anti-Israel flame in a lot of palestinian hearts. Unless they commit genocide and kill every single one of them, this kind of actions won't really work like the Israeli Government say they want.
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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>I think we can agree that this kind of actions just enforces Hamas position...
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By the very same token fighting the Nazis during WWII just enforced their position. Nevertheless, fighting the Nazis was the most effective way to get rid of Nazism.
Do you know a BETTER way to get rid of terrorism than fighting the terrorists, Coatl? If not it means that "this kind of actions that just enforces Hamas position" is the BEST way to get rid of Hamas you know of.
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Coatl11 months, 1 week ago
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I really doubt Hammas has the same mindset of the Nazis, first, most of the Palestinian people don't really have much to loose, Hammas has been taking that to their advantage for a long time. Pushing the palestinians even more where they have no place to go will only grow Hammas numbers. Contrary to what happened to the Nazis, most of them had really good lives(specially if you compare them to how the palestinians are living), and they thought they were a superior race, therefore having their butts kicked by a coalition of diferent races and mindsets must have been lowered they will to fight.
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I am really for fighting terrorist, while I'm aganist is to kill inocents while trying to destroy them, Hammas is a terrorist organization for killing indiscrimiately innocent people, that the Israeli government behave in the same way, doesn't really talk very good of the suposedly "good guys".-
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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>I am really for fighting terrorist, while I'm aganist is to kill inocents while trying to destroy them...
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As I've already said you should feel free to offer the ways to do it to the Israeli government. If you know effective ways to fight the terrorists without harming anyone else you may even become the next Prime Minister.
If, however, you do not know such ways it means that the ways Israel is fighting the terrorists are THE BEST WAYS TO FIGHT TERRORISM you know.
It makes little sense to complain that the best is not good enough.
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bruhaha11 months, 1 week ago
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A better way of fighting terrorism is fighting the conditions that give the terrorists influence. Help build infrastructure. Want to know how Hezbollah gets so popular? They build hospitals, give out aid to poor....etc.
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Yes, eliminate the terrorists when you can. The mass carnage only turns more people against israel and increases the influence of groups like Hamas.-
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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>A better way of fighting terrorism is fighting the conditions that give the terrorists influence. Help build infrastructure.
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This is exactly what Israel did after 1967 and until August, 2000. Palestinians responded with terrorist attacks first from the neighboring Arab countries and then (after signing the Oslo accords that were supposed to give them peace and an independent state) by thousands of attacks from the West Bank and Gaza. These attacks culminated in a terrorist war known as the Intifadah that started in September, 2000 and continues as we speak. So, Israel helped followed your advice and got more terrorism as a result....
They say "Fool me once...", don't they? There will be no "fool me twice", my friend. Palestinians have a democratically elected government, even two governments. It's THEIR responsibility to care about the infrastructure, hospitals, etc.... just like Hezbollah did.
>The mass carnage only turns more people against israel and increases the influence of groups like Hamas.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but there is no "mass carnage". If it was there would be no groups like Hamas left to increase their influence. -
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Edmar1411 months, 1 week ago
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Are all of you living in a tunnel? Or maybe in bed with the sheets covering your heads. Hamas controls Gaza. They took great care to eliminate anybody who didn't speak up for Hamas or represent their views. Do you honestly think that anybody would be allowed to work in Gaza unless they were complete supporters of Hamas? Hamas controls the media in Gaza, the hospitals, the staff and all other aspects of the infrastructure. Were these workers from Norway of nordic descent or Muslim? Because they came from Norway doesn't give them any more credibility "(The two medics, who were sent into the war zone by the pro-Palestinian aid organisation Norwac)." Just because it's from a news agency who got it from an interview doesn't make it so. It may be, but it just as easily may not be so. If any of you remember, it has been said by more than one person that the war in Vietnam was started in part as a testing ground for new weapons during the cold war. Ridiculous then, and just as plausibly ridiculous now. Mark Twain once said "Get the facts first, then you can distort them anyway that you please."
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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If this was an isolated report from some blog or something, I might give your theory some serious thought. This is out on the press wires and there have been reports of these types of weapons being used on Palestinians since 2006. Whether the Israeli's are using this type of weapon should at least be investigated. Just attacking the messenger in hopes to sway public opinion to ignore these reports is being an enabler. Where there is smoke there is a good chance you will find fire. Another thought to ponder is if they have used this weapon in the past or present, who did they get it from?
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canadianrancher5711 months, 1 week ago
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Edmar14- are you one of those YES BUT people , I am seeing many of these people commenting on this site lately . A YES BUT comment is somewhat similiar to finger pointing or even worse . The even worse is what we should be afraid of , the even worse is to be a denier.
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The story presented opinions of two doctors who were in the area and stated their opinion about injuries that they found odd.
i will remind you of your own history about some of the events of the Holocaust, I watched a artical last night on History channel called the "Escape from Auschwitz ". I must apologize for not remembering the names of the two men who escaped from the camp but when they told their story to Jewish people in Switzerland those people would not believe them . They said that such a thing could not be. Not only did those people denie such a thing could happen but so did the world and look of what the results were. No person should ever close their eyes to what people are capable of , and those people I am talking of are the people of your country, religion, race, political party or even family members, or at times even ones own self.-
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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>The story presented opinions of two doctors...
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The truth is that this and similar stories blame Israel for using this or another type of weapons. If the Israelis were not using it then they would be blamed for using something else. The problem, however, is NOT with using this or another type of weapons in this or another situation (after all, Israelis are using the most efficient types of weapons they have for each specific place and time) but with the fact that fighting is going on and people are being killed.
It makes little sense to complain about Israeli actions for as long as Hamas and their friends continue their attacks. No complaints will force Israelis to commit a state suicide or to allow themselves to be slaughtered.
The only realistic way to end the war for good is through a peace agreement. Peace agreement can only be achieved by peace negotiations. Peace negotiations can only become possible when BOTH sides are ABLE AND WILLING to negotiate peace.
Israel always was willing and was able to live in peace with its neighbors as Israel has nothing to gain from the endless war for its survival. This means that it's up to the Palestinians to decide if they're willing to live in peace or to die at war.
If they're willing to live in peace they'll declare their agreement for an immediate cease fire without pre-conditions, recognition of the right of Israel to exist and their willingness to negotiate a mutually acceptable peace agreement.
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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It's not Israel's fault for using these weapons. We (the U.S.) gave it to them. Out of other side of our neck we are pushing peace negotiations. It's like a teacher breaking up a schoolyard rumble, but handing one of the students a stiletto and walking away.
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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I do not see any reason for you to feel a hypocrite. After all, Hamas and other terrorist organizations use American-made weapons as well. On the other hand, your calls would remain unanswered in both cases. If I were you I would care more about the calls for peace to be heard, not about me feeling better making these calls.
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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The fact remains if we weren't involved Israel would be less likely to ignore the U.N. and human rights organizations. So I feel the same amount of people wouldn't die. It's a straw man arguement, but I felt like indulging you. If Israel was alone and didn't have U.S. support they would be a lot less aggressive and would use diplomacy more often than not.
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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> The fact remains if we weren't involved Israel would be less likely to ignore the U.N. and human rights organizations.
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I doubt very much that the statement above is a "fact". First, Israel did not and does not ignore either the UN or human rights organizations. Second, it is not possible for Israel to UNILATERALLY comply with the demands of these organizations.
> If Israel was alone and didn't have U.S. support they would be a lot less aggressive and would use diplomacy more often than not.
Do you recall your earlier question about the EIGHT YEARS Israel was patiently waiting prior to react to the thousands of terrorist attacks?
Do you believe that EIGHT YEARS was not long enough and that Israel DID NOT try to find a diplomatic solution during these EIGHT YEARS??? Just say so...
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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That's pure B.S. Israel has ignored every resolution that the U.N, has proposed in this conflict, because the U.S, vetoes it. Instead of telling the U.S. to butt out, they welcome the U.S. veto and ignore the U.N. resolutions. You can't want diplomacy by asking for a democracy in Palestine and when the vote is over you refuse to accept the outcome. You can't be actively seeking a resolution while you are expanding settlements in disputed territories. Your blind support of Israel, allows you to make excuses for bad behavior.
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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> Israel has ignored every resolution that the U.N, has proposed in this conflict, because the U.S, vetoes it.
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I'm sorry to disappoint you but a VETOED resolution is not a resolution, it's a rejected proposal. Would you consider yourself married if a girl REJECTED your proposal, Jovial?
> You can't want diplomacy by asking for a democracy in Palestine and when the vote is over you refuse to accept the outcome.
I'm not sure what you're talking about but both the US and Israel ACCEPTED the results of the vote in Gaza and acted accordingly.
> You can't be actively seeking a resolution while you are expanding settlements in disputed territories.
Why not? As long as the territories are DISPUTED the Arabs should have no more and no less rights to settle there than the Jews. Saying otherwise would be treating Arabs and Jews differently because of their ethnicity. Do you have a problem with Arab settlements in these territories?
> Your blind support of Israel, allows you to make excuses for bad behavior.
It seems to me that you're out of rational arguments, Jovial and this is the reason you've become emotional. I'm asking you again: if settling in the DISPUTED territories is "bad behavior" how come YOU excuse the Arabs?
In addition, I'm still waiting for you answer to my earlier question, Jovial: How long should Israel watch its citizens murdered and maimed by Arab terrorists prior to fighting back?-
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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BS, again. I just showed you the story. Ohlmert bragged about calling Bush up and making him accept his phone call. Then the Secretary of State of the U.S. did a 180 on her position and abstained. All you have to say about that is since it's wasn't unanimous Israel shouldn't have to follow it? They never accepted Hamas as the elected government in Palestine. They refused to even recognize their leaders. In the current offensive they killed them with smart bombs. Aren't you tired of apologizing for your government? I excuse the Arabs, because they were already settled there. Israel came in bulldozed the houses and built settlements. That was another resolution that the arrogant Israeli government didn't follow, because Ohlmert could use the U.S. veto in the U.N. Most of the resolutions that have come through the U.N. have been unanimous, but for the U.S. opposition. And now we know why!
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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>Ohlmert bragged about calling Bush up and making him accept his phone call.
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If he really said that it was pretty stupid... but I'm not yet convinced Olmert was THAT dumb to say it.
>All you have to say about that is since it's wasn't unanimous Israel shouldn't have to follow it?
I have to say that Israel COULD NOT and WOULD NOT follow that (vetoed) Resolution even if it was unanimous for the simple reason that it said nothing about requiring Hamas to stop firing as well.
>They never accepted Hamas as the elected government in Palestine.
Well, Hamas never WAS the elected government in Palestine, it only was the elected government in Gaza. Further, neither Hamas nor any other Palestinian government even accepted any government of Israel. Do you have a problem with that, Jovial? After all, if you do not accept me why should I accept YOU? Still further, even the "other" Palestinian government in the West Bank did not "accept" Hamas as the elected government in Palestine. All this being said, how would you expect Israel to "accept" Hamas?
> They refused to even recognize their leaders. In the current offensive they killed them with smart bombs.
It is legal and acceptable to kill enemy soldiers and even Generals during a war. This being said, however, does the fact that the Allies DID NOT SUCCEED to kill Hitler mean that they've "recognized" him and other leaders of the Third Reich?
>I excuse the Arabs, because they were already settled there.
So were the Jews. You may not know it but according to the Bible the Jews lived in the area for at least 25 centuries.
> Israel came in bulldozed the houses and built settlements.
I'm sorry to say it but this is a lie. Each and every Israeli settlement was built on land that was not privately owned by anyone.
>Most of the resolutions that have come through the U.N. have been unanimous, but for the U.S. opposition. And now we know why!
Can you enlighten me, too?
Finally, you still did not answer the question I've asked you several times: How long should Israel watch its citizens murdered and maimed by Arab terrorists prior to fighting back?-
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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Fighting back! 13 israeli soldiers killed, 4 of them by friendly fire. Over a thousand Palestinians dead over 1/3 of them women and children. And your country has the balls to call this defense against rockets? It's no longer defense, it's outright revenge. You are lying asout where Israel built houses. I can have an intelligent debate with a person that is willing to have an honest debate, but when you're cornered you start to lie, and that makes it extremely frustrating. You can have the last word. I refuse to argue with you anymore. Believe whatever you like.
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Thinker2211 months, 1 week ago
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>13 israeli soldiers killed, 4 of them by friendly fire. Over a thousand Palestinians dead over 1/3 of them women and children.
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Do you know how many Japanese were dead in WWII? How many of them were women and children? Did you bother to compare their numbers with the number of Americans killed? Go ahead, do it, you may be surprised.
When you're done can you tell me how many Israelis should be murdered by terrorists for you to allow them to fight back?
>It's no longer defense, it's outright revenge.
No, my friend. As long as the Palestinians insist that the war should continue it is and will be defense... just as it is still defense for the US to fight Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and other places despite the fact that the number of people killed there exceeds by far the 3000 Americans killed on 9/11.
> You are lying asout where Israel built houses.
Go ahead, prove me wrong. We both know that you're unable to do it, my friend.. and this is the reason you're running away unable to answer any of my questions and support any of your claims.
If one of us is "cornered" it's YOU. I've answered every single one of your questions and I can support each and every one of the statements I've made. YOU can not say it about yourself.
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jovial11 months, 1 week ago
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Did you see this story today? Some people say that Israel is a puppet of the U.S. I think they got it backwards.
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http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php?sid=4533...
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antibrainwasher11 months, 1 week ago
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What was the birth rate of jews living in concentration camps? less than zero.
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What is the birth rate of muslims living in refugee camps? 4-10 per couple, with no-rights no-education women serving as breeding livestock, with sucessful men having as many as 4 wives.
I can't say it enough, who gives aflying crap what happens to either inbred tribal arabs or inbred tribal jews in the craphole sewer that is the middle east. F' em all, every last man woman and child.
And a special death wish to all the neocon zionist jews and christians in this country who send 80 billion a year to fund one side or another. Unfortunately, they own the corporations, the banks, the media, and therefore own the country. The US airforce is 100% zionist evangelical.
F'ing totally insane. Seems the chinese are the only inbred tribe that doesn't suscribe to superstition and religion as government policy. Chinese, now there's what inbreeding can do. Or how about india, 1 billion and doubling in 50 years.
Mexicans, doubling population in 50 years. Living in abject poverty, rampant corruption and crime, and having bambinos like there is no tomorrow, which there isn't.
Somebody get me off this sh*thole of a planet invested with farting screaming hairless baby machine tribal baboons, all raving god is on their side as they murder and pillage and merrily hump away.-
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most_reasonable11 months, 1 week ago
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"What was the birth rate of jews living in concentration camps? less than zero.
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What is the birth rate of muslims living in refugee camps? 4-10 per couple, with no-rights no-education women serving as breeding livestock, with sucessful men having as many as 4 wives."
Hard to justify calling the muslims LIVING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP.
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canadianrancher5711 months, 1 week ago
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antibrainwasher- I see you have a reallly problem with religion and in many cases rightly so. I hope you don't find this as an insult since it is sort of religious but you should read the first part of the serinity prayer, personally I sort of skip the second part.
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antibrainwasher11 months, 1 week ago
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Oh, great idea rancher, I'm familiar with the theme song from alcoholics, and thanks, but I have a family, a great job, and make a great living, and am quite productive and thriving here.
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The conversation is about war, and the weapons of war that jews are visiting on arabs, one religiously inbred tribe of worthless brainwashed god is on our side scum murdering another worthless inbred religious brainwashed tribe of subhuman scum.
I have more than a problem with religion. I see it clearly for what is it, something you and the idiot huche seem to think religion that is the root cause of all this murder is just lovely, good for you.-
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canadianrancher5711 months, 1 week ago
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antibrainwasher- I am not trying to make you beleive in anything , when it comes to war religion is not the only cause ,and it sounds that you have much to live for. My comment about the serinity prayer minus the religion part are words that apply to us all, either we make an effort to change things or we learn to live them and we must know the difference between the two. We will I doubt ever get rid of religion or the damage that it causes so we are left with two choices trying to change things or learning to live with it . It was not me that asked to be removed from this Sh*t hole of a planet and I doubt that you wish to leave either. So you are left with two choices. Change this Sh*thole or accept this Sh*thole.
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NoWayMan11 months, 1 week ago
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Iraq, Afghanistan, Gaza...all these places are test labs for new weaponry and ID tools.
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you can only lab test these new-fangled gadgets and killing machines for so long until the Orwellian desire from the powers that be to test these things on actual humans takes over. Thats how the military-industrial complex works, and administrations like the Bush administration only exacerbate this idea. but first you have to de-humanize the people you want to test your weapons on, like the Israelis have done with the Palestinians, like we have done with the Afghans and Iraqis (for how much is one american life worth when compared with iraqi or afghan lives? 100 lives? 1000? 10,000?).
and every time I see afghans or iraqis being retina scanned for ID purposes (when a picture ID will suffice) I know I'm looking at some form of biometric tool that will be put into play in the near future right here in the US, most likely to be used on people of color and those who occupy the lower rungs of the socio-economic ladder.
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most_reasonable11 months, 1 week ago
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A interesting argument to justify not taking out the ENTIRE cancer.
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Cancer's role in life is to kill the host.
George Bush thought he could get away with killing SOME of the Taliban...not too bright.
BTW. The reason OBL gave for the attack on the WTC was because Americans sullied his precious homeland soil when we were protecting Saudi Arabia from Saddam.
The Afghans in general REALLY appreciate our help in throwing out the Soviets.
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Georgia5011 months, 1 week ago
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Now for the reality check:
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1. This accusation was initially made in 2006 by the same journalist who claimed without evidence the US used white phosphorus in Fallujah.
2. DIME weapons are not illegal.
3. As DIME weapons are perfected, they allow a military to ratchet down lethality to nearly one room of one building. There is increasingly less risk posed to the structure and other occupants within it. The DIME, as such, is also an LCD weapon, or "low collateral damage" munition. The technology will allow the lethality of each device to be determined at the time of use.
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GehlLady11 months, 1 week ago
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"1. This accusation was initially made in 2006 by the same journalist who claimed without evidence the US used white phosphorus in Fallujah."
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The very first time I heard of this was from an American soldier that had returned from there, he said they called it 'whiskey pete'.
There is no doubt Israel is using it, they have said they are, but only as a smoke screen, as it was intended and legal to use. The problem is that it is not proper to use it in so dense a population area.
I won't defend Hamas or Israel, I'm still trying to get a handle on how I feel, and have a hard time believing most of the stories coming out of there. I have too many questions for both sides.
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most_reasonable11 months, 1 week ago
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"Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME) is uniquely suited for Low Collateral Damage. It produces lower pressure but increased impulse in the near field. Far Field damage is reduced (no frags/ impulse rolloff). The lethal footprint can be tuned to precision footprint. Strike Weapon Scaling Tests were completed in August of 2004), and full-scale Mk-82 tests were in the planning stage as of early 2005. DARPA funded RPG defense system feasibility tests in January 2005, which were successful."
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most_reasonable11 months, 1 week ago
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Gaza hamas murder fatah in gaza takeover
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Doing it the "old" way, HAMAS in a killing spree.
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CaptainLucid11 months, 1 week ago
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Isn't this the second time this story has been posted here? It is just surreal reading the comments from the same Israel haters and knowing they are like a living rerun of when they did this story last week. The only difference is now more people have gotten tired of the palestinians who insist that they have a right to launch missiles at Israel because they voted for it.
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CaptainLucid11 months, 1 week ago
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Why are you jumping on jovial. At first I was not sure if this was a repeat but then I realized that the story had been presented before. How can I condemn jovial when I still harbored doubt myself. Jovial just manned up and said if he did repost a story it was a mistake. I make mistakes too. What I am absolutely sure of though is if I had a disagreement with jovial we would discuss it like mature adults
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ningyo11 months, 1 week ago
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the more i actually read about these DIME weapons the more they seem to be in the more humane vein of "smart" weapons--the field of damage is very confined controlled and there isnt shrapnel flying every which way--in other words they are weapons designed to create the MOST damage in the MOST controlled and limited way--seems like a much more responsible response than sending up 6,000 hail mary rockets from the middle of a schoolyard--anyone defending these hamas monsters only need to listen to the "protesters"..the rent-a-mobs that have sprung up here screaming that we should send them back to the ovens..YOU NEED A BIG OVEN...so much for the religion of peace--isreal must crush these islamic fanatics..and so must we
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KStov1311 months, 1 week ago
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Wow...this gives new meaning to "drop a DIME on someone". So if memory serves...Isreal's islamic neighbors all want it "wiped off the map" and Hamas routinely lobs missles on Isreal's schools while hiding behind little girls in Palestinian schools...Am I missing something here???? Perhaps the Norse doctors should spend some time in Isreal.
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