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Posted by: theido 10 months, 4 weeks ago

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theido10 months, 4 weeks ago

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Umm.... Jesus is the one that said them, not John. Get an informed education.

Nice try if you are trying to make Tim Tebow as the one described in your alternate verse. Notice the "when you pray". Not when you witness.

FYI, John 3:16 is part of a conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus.

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  vettenut10 months, 4 weeks ago
  
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  Right, theido!
  
  Precisely, an informed BIBLICAL education.
  
  Even the most casual Bible student knows that the 4 gospels are full of things that JESUS said, that are simply quoted by the gospel writers, and are shown as such by the use of quotation marks. Funny thing!!!! LOL
  
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    Dionys10 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    Even the most casual Bible student knows that each of the gospels changed Christ's words according to their particular target audience . Even the most casual Bible student knows the approximate dates the different Gospels were written. Thus subtle differences such as "blessed are the poor" vs "Blessed are the poor in spirit" in the more spiritualized Matthew, despite the fact that in Luke the "poor" is from the Greek ptochos meaning the literal, wretched poor.
    
    John had a particularly different view than Matthew, Mark, or Luke. If you read John 3:16, you can plainly see John's redactive hand in the words of Christ. Just as you can in the differing testimony of "blessed are the poor [in spirit]" between Mark and Luke.
    
    Seeing as how John is thought to have come after Matthew, Luke and Mark (and how it's not even a synoptic), I tend to think that you will find the more accurate words of Christ with a less redactive hand in the earlier Gospels.
    
    But then I'm not a really big Johannine theologian. Which seems to be really, really big for all the evangelicals. Especially the overly critical, angry ones who like to discriminate against others rather than live Christ's life as exemplified in the synoptics.
    
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