Obama's Nonbeliever Nod Unsettles Some »
Posted By GehlLady 11 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsNot everyone was happy with President Barack Obama\'s nod to nonbelievers and non-Christians in his inaugural address. And some of the stiffest criticism of Obama’s religious inclusivity is coming from African-American Christians who maintain that no, all faiths were actually not created equal.
Read Full Story at news.aol.com »
280 Views Share Story 28 Comments Report
Who Also Submitted: All »
Other Related Articles: All »
Why not submit a story?
RSS Join the Discussion
+ Add CommentComments So Far: 28 (view all)
-
Neutral
GehlLady11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I submitted this for the last paragraph.
Reply
The Rev. Cecil Blye, pastor of More Grace Ministries Church in Louisville, Ky., said:
"a disproportionate number of "black kids are dying each day through abortion. President Obama is supportive of abortion, and that's a genocide on black folks. Nobody wants to talk about that as a civil rights issue."
A perspective I hadn't heard before...-
0%
Dionys11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
You hear nutty things from nutty people every day.
Reply
Obama does not support abortion. He has, in fact, like the majority of pro-choice people, condemned the practice. He does, however, support a woman's right to choose her own medical treatment. His *not* enforcing his religious tenets upon someone else's freedoms should be a good thing.
-
-
100%
Ebonvoice11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Rev. Blye makes it sound as if guns are being placed to black women's heads and made to have abortions. Pres. Obama stated back in June, 2008 that he doesn't support abortions, and that he believes he can find agreement in that sentiment.
Reply
As for the good Pastor's assertion that other religions are not equal to Christianity, and that the President is trying to "redefine" the nation, I challenge him to find that part in this nation's Constitution that sets aside Christianity and holds it above other faiths.-
100%
Dionys11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
" I challenge him to find that part in this nation's Constitution that sets aside Christianity and holds it above other faiths."
Reply
It doesn't exist. In fact the establishment clause (or anti-establishment clause) in the first amendment explicitly prohibits the government from favoring any religion over another.
-
-
100%
AdamLabo11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
A disproportionate number of kids in general are dying from a mother's right to choose every day. Why make this a race or civil rights issue? Is there someone who is forcing these people, for example a court or government official, to go and get it done? No, it's a right the mother chooses. There for Rev. Blye, your racist comment is exactly that. A reason to stir the racism a bit more.
Reply-
-
Neutral
Dionys11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
"Why make this a race or civil rights issue?"
Reply
Because race has a direct bearing on who is or is not living at or below the poverty level and those with less support and less means are more likely to be forced into the difficult choice of abortion.
-
-
100%
AdamLabo11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
And on the comment of which this article is about, I remind you of the Treaty of Tripoli 1797, Article 11:
Reply
"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
The early Americans came here on the basis of freedom of religion and unfortunately, as has been the case since the founding of Catholicism, religion seems to think it needs a say in all affairs. It doesn't. Religion is the cause of death and war.-
0%
Redneck11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Later corrected by the Congress!!!
Reply
The reading you cite was editted that way by the person we sent to negoitate the treaty. It was his invention. Congress corrected it later.
Jay, first Supreme Court Justice wrote "we are a Christian nation." I could give you many similar quotes from sources of similar rank and influence.
-
-
-
Neutral
Redneck11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
The Founding Fathers did not wish for a State Church such as found in Germany (Lutheran), England Angilcan or Church of England, France -- Catholic, etc, But they did not say the Church should not be supported nor could say nothing to government. On the contrary their practice and choices demonstrate the opposite.
Reply
-
-
-
Neutral
che26m11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
African-Americans (and anybody else) who think they have any kind of claim over anybody else in this country because of who they are or their what they're beliefs are need to consider the following below: (This is not a racist remark in the negative)
Reply
1. Christianity was forced down the throats of the African slaves here in the U.S. Many of these slaves had their own tribal beliefs and many were in fact Muslim before they were sold into slavery.
2. Given the battles African-Americans have had to endure in this country for equality and civil rights, it is a disgrace to hear that kind of tribalism coming from that article. Yet not suprising.
History has shown us over and over, how certain groups of people/tribes have to fight for equality when rubbing up against, or being digested into new societies. Then once they've "earned" their place as equals (or think they have) they then proceed to discriminate against other minorities.
It's a normal human thing to do to think, I got mine, so forget you. We have evolution to thank in part for that.
That kind of behavior may have saved a tribe of hominids 150k years ago when fighting over a water hole, or hunting ground that could only sustain one tribe, but now there's really no excuse for that kind of behavior.
I've always found it amazing at how the people who most argue against the evolution of our species continuously act in ways that proves our evolution from less intelligent homids.-
Neutral
Dionys11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
"Christianity was forced down the throats of the African slaves here in the U.S. Many of these slaves had their own tribal beliefs and many were in fact Muslim before they were sold into slavery."
Reply
Proof that many were supposedly Muslim before being sold into slavery?
-
-
100%
che26m11 months, 2 weeks ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
African-Americans (or anybody else) who think they have any kind of claim over anybody else in this country because of who they are or their what they're beliefs are need to consider the following below: (This is not a racist remark in the negative)
Reply
1. Christianity was forced down the throats of the African slaves here in the U.S. Many of these slaves had their own tribal beliefs and many were in fact Muslim before they were sold into slavery.
2. Given the battles African-Americans have had to endure in this country for equality and civil rights, it is a disgrace to hear that kind of tribalism coming from that article. Yet not suprising.
History has shown us over and over, how certain groups of people/tribes have to fight for equality when rubbing up against, or being digested into new societies. Then once they've "earned" their place as equals (or think they have) they then proceed to discriminate against other minorities.
It's a normal human thing to do to think, I got mine, so now forget you. We have our evolution past to thank in part for that.
That kind of behavior may have saved a tribe of hominids 150k years ago when fighting over a water hole, or hunting ground that could only sustain one tribe, but now there's really no excuse for that kind of behavior.
I've always found it amazing at how the people who most argue against the evolution of our species continuously act in ways that proves our evolution from less intelligent homids. -
Add a Comment
Sign In With Your Propeller Account
Please keep your comments relevant to this story.
To create a live link, simply type the URL (including http://) or email address and we will make it a live link for you. You can put up to 3 URLs in your comments. Line breaks and paragraphs are automatically converted — no need to use <p> or <br /> tags.