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Posted By pc25 11 months ago in NewsBarack Obama ran on a platform of post-partisanship, of healing and uniting a divided nation. Yet it didn’t even take him a week to enter into the partisan fray, taking on the Right’s biggest megaphone — and making it even bigger. Instead of marginalizing Rush Limbaugh, Obama managed to make him the most credible voice of opposition:
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pc2511 months ago
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Big mistake by Obama. This now makes for an interesting scenario if the Democrats decide to make a move to silence talk radio. It's not as if the broadcast syndicates Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingrahm, Levin and others dont have a war chest to wage a Freedom of Speech battle with the Obama administration. Smart on Limbaugh's part not too bright on Obama's. Any attempt now to to go after talk radio now will result in big problem for the Dems come the 2010 election.
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wtagg11 months ago
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Considering Mr. Limbaugh's performance in picking and supporting republican candidates in the primary, that is quite a statement.
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Mr. Limbaugh is nothing more than an entertainer who effectively knows how to manipulate his audience. Does this make his followers twice as zealous? Quite possibly. Does it make each one twice as effective in bringing about the change they desire? I think you 'll need to provide some evidence for that. Good luck.-
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MajJohn11 months ago
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The very fact that Obama thinks he needs to attack RL is proof that he sees LM et al as a threat. Obama won based on warm fuzzy, "It time for a change". The statement meant nothing but struck a cord. The cord will soon become a noose as it becomes evident that Obama fooled the voters. He'll not have that platform to run upon in a re election bid. Them the LM's of the world will become even more powerful. Obama seeks to marginalize them now rather than later.
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GWHayduke11 months ago
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-"yep, limbaugh can beat him with half his brain tied behind his back"-
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Which is apparently where he keeps it.
Mullah Limbaugh must not believe in the Democratic process.....he must feel that the Republic is below him.....so he resorts to the tactics employed by the Mullahs.
Didnt we have a referendum back in November that resoundingly defeated the Bush Doctrine and paved the way for progress rather than regression, recession and oppression?
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Tangent00111 months ago
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The what exactly IS the MSM? The right keeps pointing to the high viewership on Fox, and the ratings garnered by Limbaugh. Doesn't that make THEM 'mainstream'? Or is it some sort of circular definition whereby anything left of center is automatically defined as 'mainstream'; and anything 'mainstream' is automatically left of center?
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wtagg11 months ago
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It is an attempt to brand something as bad.
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Notice the irony in the success of the redefinition of the word in this context. Influential apparently has nothing to do with mainstream.
I better alert all traditional sources providing the definition. Since one definition is wrong, it casts suspicion upon all the definitions provided by these sources.
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wtagg11 months ago
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Rush Limbaugh's definition is apparently good with you.
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Noun = The prevailing current of thought, influence, or activity
Adjective = Representing the prevalent attitudes, values, and practices of a society or group
Throughout 2001-2006, how is Limbaugh, Hannity, etc... not mainstream? Heck, maybe you might want to add 1995-2000 to my dates considering the make up of our representatives in congress.
I'm not the one with the unaccepted, brand spanking new definition.
Go ahead, let's hear your definition. If you want to change your first letter to L, then you have a completely acceptable statement.
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wtagg11 months ago
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Did you notice that I referred to someone who is arguably the most successful broadcaster of his generation? Did you notice that I referred to someone who is arguably the highest paid broadcaster of his generation? Did you notice that I referred to someone who is arguably the most influential broadcaster of his generation?
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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Jenna Jamison is the most sucessful porn star of her generation. Like rush she knows how to arouse emotion to catch the attention of the reptilian mind. I have a highly developed prefrontal cortex so I consider them both to be incredibly boring in the same way. I suspect Jenna has some resentment against rush because he has bigger tits and takes more drugs. As a consolation she is much more convincing. I can believe Jenna when she takes another and pretends like it hurts like the first time. That is more than I can say about rush who has made a habit of flashing his money to get married only to divorce later when she finds out that a bottle of Oxycontin and an erection get along like Jews and arabs. Hitler was a pretty big deal back in the 30's and early 40's. Won't catch me pimping him anymore than you are pimping rush. Once again same reason. Hitler knew how to appeal to losers who have a deformed prefrontal cortex. A deformed prefrontal cortex pretty much guarantees you will spend your life in prison unless you get sponsored by a hate group who thinks you have a better purpose in life like getting tricked into doing the big time killing and then when you are done with your job you wonder why the bosses all pretend like they never met you. At least Jenna does her own stunts
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antibrainwasher11 months ago
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What does it say about the republitools when their hero is a coward draft dodging closet homosexual with a bleeding anal cyst, drug addicted to oxycotton, racist, fat, uneducated, worthless hatemongering pig?
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And behold for this fine day, another republicircle jerk. You fools will never win another election with this swiftboating kindergarden liquid crap.-
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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How about the republicans all time hero was and actor who read his lines until the alzheimers got to bad. The republicans second biggest hero was an ex junkie and drunk (not limblah) who couldn't even read the lines coherently and is known by a letter because he can't spell words. While we are talking about spelling lets bring up dan the potatoe man. Or how about the future of your party is the mountains of alaska with some bright red lipstick. W got elected in part because you idiots thought he would be cooler than Al Gore to have a beer with. If I want a beer I will go to the bar. If I want a president I will find a nobel prize winner. By the way do I need to mention what most people are thinking about when they see Palin? Recently she stopped being a MILF and is now a GILF. Why did your party keep running with joe who was complaining about the taxes on his plumbing business except he had no business and no plumbing license and didn't pay taxes either? Want some more? I am just starting to get into my groove.
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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Yes Lincoln was a republican. Also at one time the democrats had a lock on the south. Then Lincoln thought people were not property and the south went crazy. More recently the democrats thought that the color of your skin was not a valid consideration when it came to what school you went to or which drinking fountain you used. Once again the south went crazy and the party of Lincoln became the party of Jesse Helms. Lincoln couldn't break 10% if he ran in a republican primary today. If Lincoln ran as a dem today he would rack up Obama size approval ratings. Remember when republicans stood for small government? I don't, I am too young. The only republicans I know are the ones who spend like drunken sailors and ditch the tab.
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Wolfie200711 months ago
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Actually, antibrain, that's exactly what Obama's pretend stimulus, sham, scam is all about, making sure only liberal, progressive democrats get elected forever.
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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Still not as bad as putting someone who's previous accomplishment was bankrupting his investment company with a combination of theft and incompetence with the emphasis on theft, so then W put him in charge of all the money and gave him 300 more billion and the big plot twist is he just kept lying and stealing. This is about as surprising as giving a junkie $40 to get a meal, a hair cut, and a clean shirt to wear to a job interview and the next time you see him he is lying in a gutter, puked the meal on the new shirt, the interview was 2 hours ago and there is an empty hypodermic next to him. By the way I don't like the fact that Obama is trying to put a republican wannabe into the treasury job either.
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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Dude Faux news already issued this "talking point" a few days ago and you botched the quote anyway. Stick to cut and paste moron. The republicans spend a lot of time and money thinking for you. Stick to the script and don't try to ad lib stuff.
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JamesMarcus11 months ago
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I sincerely doubt that the Democrats will attempt to silence talk radio. As for Limbaugh--come on, the guy has been launching vicious, shrilly partisan attacks on Obama since the presidential campaign began. In November, he mocked Obama's final visit with his dying grandmother in Hawaii. Is this something you want to defend? In that sense, Limbaugh is a perfect symbol of the kind of partisanship Obama is trying to avoid, hence his casual allusion in that meeting. A better litmus test of Obama's own nonpartisan ambitions (which will certainly hit some speed bumps along the way): his choice of Rick Warren for the inaugural invocation. That alienated some of Obama's own base, but he did it anyway.
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JamesMarcus11 months ago
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No, I find it the humorous response of a man who's been on the receiving end of racist nonsense for much of his life, starting with the Montgomery bus boycott in 1955. As a white person, I'm not offended by it. I'm not offended by Rick Warren's invocation, either--it's his equation of homosexuality with incest and ********** that I find problematic.
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buckncindykill11 months ago
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Exactly pc. To make the argument about Limbaugh instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. Obama's plan would buy votes for the Democrat Party, in the same way FDR's New Deal established majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule, and it would also simultaneously seriously damage any hope of future tax cuts. It would allow a majority of American voters to guarantee no taxes for themselves going forward. It would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy. Put simply, his stimulus is aimed at re-establishing "eternal" power for the Democrat Party rather than stimulating the economy because anyone with a brain knows this is NOT how you stimulate the economy. If Limbaugh can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of their TRILLION dollar debacle.
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pc2511 months ago
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FTA
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Anytime a man in a position of great power attacks someone with significantly less power, it lessens the greater man and raises up his opponent. The American President is, thanks to the office, the most powerful man in the free world. If he’s worried about any political pundit so much that he has to attack him personally, it shows WEAKNESS, which is exactly what Obama cannot afford.-
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Hhussk11 months ago
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pc, I have to disagree with your application of this to the current situation. I don't believe that Obama attacked Limbaugh. He used him as an example, a very fine example, of an extreme partisan who's hatred does more harm than good (to Rush's own cause and to the country at large).
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I disagree with your assessment.
It doesn't matter what liberals and Democrats believe Obama said. When President Obama told Republicans on Friday not to listen to Limbaugh, he legitimized Rush Limbaugh as an opponent. That, in itself, validates Limbaugh to retaliate.-
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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Whose trillion dollar debacle are you referring to? The only 3 people I know who can and have blown a trillion with nothing to show for it have last names like reagan and bush and also can't count that high. Ooo Boy no more tax cuts. Do you retards think of anything other than not paying taxes? What is this nonsense about the government burdening the private sector. Last time I checked it was the private sector like banks, auto companies, and halliburton/cheney who were burdening the public sector. By the way you palgerising moron that eternal democrat rule line was already on Faux news and crap radio before. You thought you could look like an original thinker as opposed to every other conservative moron who confuses repetition with original thought.
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willottica11 months ago
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pc, I have to disagree with your application of this to the current situation. I don't believe that Obama attacked Limbaugh. He used him as an example, a very fine example, of an extreme partisan who's hatred does more harm than good (to Rush's own cause and to the country at large).
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What I find even funnier about this quote is that there is a certain amount of truth in it. A truth that you fail to see applies equally to the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. If GWB hadn't gone after OBL in Afghanistan, would OBL have had the power he did? Not nearly, there is no way he could have cost the US so many trillions of dollars. By focusing on a man and an organization, and not on protecting against a general threat, GWB gave incredible power to that man and that organization, and decreased his own power to fight against unknown threats.
BTW, stating that Rush is a partisan blowhard is not an attack (especially not in the much more polite terms that Obama stated it -- it's an easily obsevable fact.). Going after him about his drug problems or other non-sequiturs would be an attack, and that WOULD do as the quote suggests.
(You'll also remember that attacking the man rather than his policies was the chief strategy of the McCain campaign. Remember how well it worked for the next election.)-
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UnusualSuspect11 months ago
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Whew!...is it me or is it hot in here? *fanning myself* Oh........must be all that hot air...
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"President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.
“You can’t just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done,” he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package."
I question the use of the word "warned" used in the first paragraph. Was Obama's tone of voice such that it sounded like a warning, or just one person's interpretation of it, and possibly twisting it a bit to get a news flash? More likely the person who wrote that should have used the word "told"...Was it said in a joking manner? Or was he stern, like Darth Cheney is? Will we ever know?
It is true, tho....you can't listen to Limbaugh, Coulter, Howard Stern, Al Franken, and all the other fake news people (right and left, but I have to say there's more on the right, isn't there?) out there and expect to get things done...listen to the people, not entertainers... -
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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According to your logic when I let the board know that you are completely full of crap and talk that to your face you have a big grin like someone who craped in their pants and doesn't think anyone else notices because the rest of them are just trying to play nice until the elevator doors open and everyone bails. You are happy because you think I "validated" you.
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cherev11 months ago
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"if they try to silence talk radio it will become obvious to the electorate as to what is starting to go on........"
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To those of us who opposed Obama, it's already obvious.
To the intellectual elite who support Obama, they want what Obama has to offer.
To the masses who supported Obama based on race, party, promises, etc., they've already gone back to paying attention to their jobs, families, etc.
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nostalgia11 months ago
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I think Obama will live to regret this
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All he did was create more interest in Limbaugh as more people will tune in to hear what Rush has to say
Ratings will go up and more advertisers will be attracted
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Leemck0211 months ago
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Do this for me, Watch CSPAN when a liberal speaks on a topic you think Rush (or FOX for that matter) will comment on. Determine how accurate what they regurgitate is to the original. If you want to hear lies then just know that's what you are getting. President Obama cannot do anything to hurt Rush, that Rush on the drugs or doing propaganda are not doing to himself.
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So, you want more of that Truth Rush is putting out? I defend his right to give you the story you want and take the profit to the bank.-
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nostalgia11 months ago
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I do listen to Cspan - most of the day in fact
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You can say the exact same thing about conservatives and the MSM
I sometimes wonder if I was listening to the same thing on CSpan that a member of the MSM is commenting on
I expect spin from talk radio
I don't expect spin from MSM news anchors
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gsmittle11 months ago
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"Obama has the backing of Congress. Whatever civil liberties he violates, he'll do with the blessing of those who hold power in government, academia, and the media."
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I assume you're talking about the previous administration. From where I sit, Obama's already starting to reverse Dubya's abuses.
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wtagg11 months ago
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Feel free to post evidence of this occurring. It is interesting to see you agree with this point and the man who said he wouldn't support and then did support the candidate that you allegedly didn't vote for.
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In essence, you are agreeing with Mr. Limbaugh's belief in the direction for the republican party and its platform/politics.-
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ADAGUY11 months ago
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"What exactly in my post would lead you to believe I agree with Limbaugh"
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Perhaps it's the fact that upi agree woth everything the GOP says and does. Could that be an indication that you are a limbaugh lover?
I personally doubt if you make your own decisions, I am prone to believe that most hardline gop voters depend on people like Limbaugh to tell them how and why they should vote.
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wtagg11 months ago
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Why is Obama suggesting to representatives that following a person's political belief that led to their failure at the last two elections necessarily a bad thing? Also someone who directly stated he wanted the president of this country to fail.
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Obama didn't personally attack him. He stated that following his brand of politics is divisive, counterproductive, and as evidenced by the election results, currently not very successful.
You must also like Kucinich, based upon your benchmark.
Someone who doles out opinions in a public forum, whether it is Palin, McCain, Obama, Biden, Limbaugh or Olbermann is fair game
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BB6411 months ago
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Once again, I'm reminded why he reminds me of Jimmy Carter...
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The problem when he goes after talk radio is that there isn't anyone around in the media whose worth a fart. ABC, CBS and NBC are little more than front groups for the DNC. Their "news" and "entertainment" groups did nothing but cover for his failings. They would never go after their messiah.
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nostalgia11 months ago
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What exactly in my post would lead you to believe I agree with Limbaugh?
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I was simply pointing out what should be obvious - Obama sniping at Limbaugh was not a very smart idea
Was McCain's direction for the Republican Party a winner - hardly
I'm interested in fiscal conservatives regardless of the party they belong to - Republicans, Blue Dog Democrats, Independents, Libertarian doesn't matter to me
I like the Democrat Patterson appointed to fill Hillary's Senate seat - how about you?
She voted against that original baulout bill
"allegedly didn't vote for"?
AH I get it, you think I'm lying! Nice try but as usual you lose
You must have missed what I posted about McCain on several occasions:
"McCain was just another pandering politician
Read his biography/family memoir, Faith of My Fathers
He has some real psychological problems - he doesn't feel like he ever measured up to his father and grandfather - both 4 Star admirals
The only way for him to "live up to expectations" was to become commander in chief"-
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nostalgia11 months ago
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Believe whatever you want Adaguy
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Kool Aid drinkers usually do
"upi agree woth everything the GOP says and does"
Really??
You really don't pay attention you do?
I was against the war in Iraq
I didn't vote for Bush - why would i have voted for him as President when I didn't vote for him as governor of TX?
I was against the budgets passed by the Republican Congress
But why bother. You are the typical left wing ideologue - everything has to fit into neat little categories or you can't function
It would be like me telling you to go back to reading the DailyKook or Moveon to get your information - or is that what you really do?
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Hhussk11 months ago
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Incorrect.
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What is actually occurring is that the FCC board, when reformed in this new administration, had the capability of enforcing the Fairness Doctrine de facto, without the approval or disapproval of Congress.
By focusing on people such as Limbaugh and Hannity, Obama is clearly recognizing them as opponents. His first task is making them look like bad guys. If he succeeds, then he has an outlet to make his attacks on AM radio public.
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Tangent00111 months ago
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In reality, something the neo-cons avoid like the plague, Obama has stated he would NOT support the return of the Fairness Doctrine. It's just stubborn residue from their campaign to paint Obama as a Marxist.
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"In June of this year a spokesman for Barack Obama had this to say about reimposing the “Fairness Doctrine”:
Sen. Obama does not support reimposing the Fairness Doctrine on broadcasters. He considers this debate to be a distraction from the conversation we should be having about opening up the airwaves and modern communications to as many diverse viewpoints as possible. That is why Sen. Obama supports media-ownership caps, network neutrality, public broadcasting, as well as increasing minority ownership of broadcasting and print outlets." [emphasis added]
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ADAGUY11 months ago
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The difference is that the tv and news broadcasts, as well as newspapers can be held liable for what they say. Talk radio cannot be held liable as it does not claim to be factual. It is considered "entertainment", and the courts have declared politicians as fair game.
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An extreme example of the same thing is late night tv like Connan Obrien! He cannot be held liable for wisecracks about politicians as it is considered entertainment, and is not to be taken seriously.-
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nostalgia11 months ago
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"Limbaugh is creating more "interest in Limbaugh" by becoming a "news item" so that the press and cable TV news programs (actually Limbaugh's competition for Americans time) have to cover him"
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Who opened their mouth and made this possible?
Rush didn't "create" this. Obama did
As I said, Obama sniping at Limbaugh was not very smart
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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"What is actually occurring is that the FCC board, when reformed in this new administration, had the capability of enforcing the Fairness Doctrine de facto, without the approval or disapproval of Congress."
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This is evidence that our children is not learning or whatever W rambled about. My point is some moron is trying to argue that what Obama may do in the future is proof of Obama's guilt for things he never did in the past. Obama is not in any way recognizing limblah and hannity as opponents. If you want to talk about Obama making fun of the mentally handicapped I will entertain a discussion. The reason Obama does not mention TV is because Keith Olberman already owns the right to smack hannity, bill o and rush across the TV and does a fine job of it. Not like smacking around republicans takes any talent. Remember when the SNL writers took a day off and Tina Fey just read palin's actual words and no one knew the difference?
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Leemck0211 months ago
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BB64, make it up as you go. Did you learn that from Rush? I see you have adapted to his style. The Big Bad President is going to take time out, using his high approval rate, to step on poor little Rush, a voice still telling everyone how mis-understood, successful and relevant the conservative message is.
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BB6411 months ago
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Lee,
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Sorry but my posts are going just about anywhere I don't want them to so if this gets lost, I tried.
During the entire election, the media never really covered Obama. We certainly knew about McCain's divorce. Cindy's drug problems. Palin's pregnant daughter and that she went to public colleges not Ivy schools. But what we didn't hear was what BO did before his coronation. He worked for Acorn as a trainer. Acorn was under Federal investigation for over 100 counts of voter fraud in Wisconsin. That's a state just north of Chicago and was a part of Barry's training ground. But that was never reported. Go figure. Another question really ignored was his terrible voting record. How do you attend so many votes yet vote present at most? Seems like a waste of time. Some questions of his friends were never fully answered. Wright and Aires come to mind but again nothing. You folks carped about military with Bush yet Barry has never served a day in his life and you remained silent. In fact some of you attacked McCain during his time as a POW. The final question has to do with sealed court records. We've seen too often when it suited Barry, sealed court records of his opponents mysteriously appeared. The press never asked about any of this. But of course, the news media isn't biased..... -
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ADAGUY11 months ago
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"The press never asked about any of this"
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BB64, c'mon, pretend you have a brain, even if you dont!
I watch CNN a lot, and they were on Obamas ass constantly. First about his religious background, then about rev. Wright, then about. They commonly mentioned his liberal voting record, it was on every night. One re-run after another. I don't think a night went by without it being brought up. But keep in mind they also hammered the GOP too.
Regarding Bush's lack of military service, as well as Cenenys, the thing you fail to mention is that when these two were young, there was a draft. Young men were required to serve. Same goes for Limbaugh! But when Obama was young, the military was all volunteer. Obama didn't serve because he didn't volunteer. The others didn't serve because they were draft dodgers. Plain and simple.
Turn on CNN this evening and listen to 'em raise hell about various decisions made by Obama. Lately they have hammered him for his appointment to head up the treasury. They are also getting on him about some of the parts of the stimulus package.
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BBcamaro11 months ago
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"Regarding Bush's lack of military service, as well as Cenenys, the thing you fail to mention is that when these two were young, there was a draft. Young men were required to serve. Same goes for Limbaugh! But when Obama was young, the military was all volunteer. Obama didn't serve because he didn't volunteer. The others didn't serve because they were draft dodgers. Plain and simple."
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BB6411 months ago
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A guy doesn't pay his taxes is now supposed to run the Treasury? Yea right.
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On the military service, you haven't covered Bill Clinton's service record either. Let's see. A protest march in Moscow, a protest in France, a protest in London. Oh, that's not what you were talking about. Obama is and has always been anti military. In fact I'm still trying to figure out what the commander in chief of the United States needs with his own private army. It's been mentioned on a number of occasions that he wanted something equal to our military. During his run, didn't his puppeteers understand C in C includes our military? Then again he went to Harvard and we saw how Bush was.
You know if Bush saw a guy drowning and walked on water to saving him your like would claim he couldn't swim. You guys hammer and hammer on anything remotely conservative. Anything that fails to fall lock step or perhaps I should say Goose Step with your policies, is destroyed. I watch the evening entertainment shows put on by ABC, NBC and CBS. 30 seconds of anti-Israel, anti-bush or whatever conservative is available, 10 minutes of Messiah Obamination and then the lineups for the evening.
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Hhussk11 months ago
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That is not true.
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What is occurring is that Obama's stimulus plan is losing support. His own favorability numbers have already dropped 15 points. He could easily pass his plan without Republican support, but fears that he and democrats will be villified when it fails. He therefores want to be able to say that "everyone" was accountable to his stimulus package and not just Democrats (and him).
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Once again, Propeller posts where it feels like.
As to your comments, you are correct. His first test is turning into a circus. It will be interesting how the press spins this one. I wonder how long it will be before they blame George or Dick for this one when it's their party with all of the control.-
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CaptainLucid11 months ago
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And the biggest reason Obama is losing support is because he thinks he can reach out to republicans and everyone else with a brain is saying don't pet that republican, it has rabies and will bite you no matter what you do if you get close. Obama's achillies heel is his kindness. Hopefully Rahm Emanuel will handle the bouncer duties.
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BB6411 months ago
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First, he's not reaching to many members in the GOP. For the most part, his cabinet and advisers looks like the Clinton team more and more.
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I hope he's prepared for what's in store for him. Review the last 8 years of Democratic attacks. We're using your play book now. We've learned the hard way when it comes to trying to play nice with libs.
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djn3nunez311 months ago
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His first task is making them look like bad guys.
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So when Hannity, Limbaugh and other Psudeo-conservative Talk Radio hosts persist in an outright lie, the radio station has no obligation to air opinions contrary to what these comedians masquerading as newsmen propagate. Without some contrasting views you end up with people who actually believe these comedians......Like some of the posters here on Propeller.-
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BB6411 months ago
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When SNL totally ripped apart the Palin family, I didn't see an opposing view. Even when they claimed the daughter's child was a product of incest. That was supposed to be a joke. I think censorship is a terrible thing and would oppose it. I frankly can't understand why the language has gotten so bad in general. In the old days writers had the abilities to share their thought without having to resort to foul language. But again, to restrict four letter words violates the 1st Amendment. So I simply change the channel. Or didn't they teach that to you in public school. Apparently not in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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SNL does not pretend to be anchormen or newsmen, nor are they on the air everyday, all day, like the agenda of the talk show radios.. However I bet they could do a funny rebuttal spoof.
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In the old days writers were censored. They were not allowed to use fould language. "Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a Damn" Caused quite a stir I understand(cause that was way before my time).
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buckncindykill11 months ago
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The reason why Barack Obama doesn't want people listening to talk radio is because it is a major speed bump in the way of his massive government spending and national socialist schemes. Talk radio is really the only form of media that is willing to challenge democrats and Barack Obama .. somehow talk radio icons just don't seem to get tingles up their legs every time he speaks. Talk radio is willing to ask the tough questions. And now, more than ever, is the time for tough questions.
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ADAGUY11 months ago
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"If you could point out an example where Rush Limbaugh blatently perpetrated a lie, I would like to hear it."
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You asked for it!
Do you recall the last year of Clinton's term, when the cuban boy was found floating in the ocean? For the first 3 days, limbaugh said they should send the kid back where he came from. Then, when the attorney general made the decision to send the kid back, Limbaugh immediately labeled the kid a refugee from communism, and said he should be allowed to stay.
How many times have you heard him say that the auto makers problems are the unions.
It takes 14 man hours to make a jeep. (1100 dollars in labor)
It takes 33 man hours to make a ford automobile(3300 in labor)
This is the most efficient plant in the US as well as the least efficient plant in the US.
Do you honestly think that 1100 per car would save Chrysler? HELL NO!
Why do you think the auto makers are not concerned about labor costs. Because they know it is under control. The problems are elsewhere!
Hoiw about the lie Limbaugh tells when he says "Every member of congress was able to see the same info Bush saw" (regarding the invasion of Iraq)
Bald faced LIE!
Congress was not allowed to see the classified info that Bush sorted through. They were allowed to see only the documents that Bush wanted them to see, as these were the documents that he used to justify his attack on Iraq! If the current info said there were believed to be no WMD's, but a three year old report said they had WMD's, then congress was shown only the older report! -
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icono111 months ago
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..."Free speech is only protected by the libs when it meets their policies and standards."
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True.
In most countries controlled by a singular entity; a dictator and 'his govt', the suppression of dissenting ideas is seen as a necessary caveat, ( a warning enjoining one from certain acts or practices) to protecting the policies as well as the public image of the individual in control.
In this society, where 'the right' of free speech is supposedly held higher than the 'image and self serving goals of politicians', I find it interesting that 0Bama would warn the public against listening to a particular individual like Rush Limbaugh. The question Iwould have about that is what is it that 0Bama does not want us, the public, to hear and why does he not want us to hear it.
Although I'm not a big Rush Fan, I guess it is time to start listenting to Rush to see if I can discern what the big threat is to 0Bama and the Democrats.
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ADAGUY11 months ago
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"Free speech is only protected by the libs when it meets their policies and standards."
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Do you think all people should be responsible for what they say about others? Yes or No?
It's that simple.
There are tons of liberal talk radio hosts on the west coast, as well as in and around the northeast. They too will be held responsible for what they say.
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wtagg11 months ago
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How is this different than the policies of the previous admin? Your mixture of suggested fascism and communism is somewhat troubling, considering the incompatibility of the ideologies. Da would have been a better choice to provide consistency.
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BB6411 months ago
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Fat boy? He's a big guy, I'll give you that but he made it pretty clear he wasn't carrying water for the GOP. First, he's not a member of the party, he's independent I think. He's very conservative like many of his listeners and some members of the GOP. The problem he had with our party was the fact we lost our way. McCain was and is a terrible member of the GOP. He spends more time back stabbing his own team. McCain Finegold is a perfect example.
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When McCain was very close to the nomination, that's when Rush clearly said he wasn't carrying water. Most people in the GOP knew he was dead in the water until he selected Palin. She energized the conservative base. That's the only reason it wasn't a Reagan like landslide for Obama.
Oh, and Mike Fox, he was lying as were many of the stem cell ads run. Parkinson's is terrible and I would feel great if they found a cure. But the claims made in the ads, at least the ones here in Wisconsin and St. Louis were untrue. There was money going for research. But not research being done on aborted children. I think by calling it a fetus we dehumanize the child that could have been. Since you entered into the abortion issue, that brings up a bigger question. If abortions would have been legal in the 50's & 60's, do you think Barry could have ended up as research material in your labs? Unwed white woman in that time period raising a black child. Abortion could have been a very viable option.-
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djn3nunez311 months ago
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If you could point out an example where Rush Limbaugh blatently perpetrated a lie, I would like to hear it.
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On the September 22 broadcast of his syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh baselessly claimed that Sen. Barack Obama is "not black," and went on to ask: "Do you know he has not one shred of African-American blood?" Limbaugh continued: "He's Arab. You know, he's from Africa. He's from Arab parts of Africa.
Here is the ethnic composition of Kenya, where Barack Obama's father came from (according to the CIA):
Kikuyu 22%, Luhya 14%, Luo 13%, Kalenjin 12%, Kamba 11%, Kisii 6%, Meru 6%, other African 15%, non-African (Asian, European, and Arab) 1%
Barack Obama Sr. was a member of the Luo tribe. They are not Arab. In fact, the vast majority of them are not even Muslim.
The Luo traditionally believed in an afterlife and a supreme creator, whom they called Nyasaye, and had a strong ancestor cult. Today most Kenya Luo are Christians, and a small number are Muslim.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/99972/rush_limb...
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rightiswrong11 months ago
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buckncindykill:"And now, more than ever, is the time for tough questions."
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LOL, where has your boy Rush The Fat been for the last 8 years. That was when we needed someone asking " tough questions." Guess he was out making fun of Mike J Fox. Did that give you a tingle up your legs.
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slate11 months ago
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The thought police are gonna start knocking at your door before long.
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You listen to NPR Mr' Slate? Ahhhhhh goot
You listen to CNN and MSNBC Yaaaah goot.
Leftist internet sites? Goot again!
What? You listen to Rush, FOX, Hannity, Beck and Savage? Take him away comrades. These types should never see the light of day again for listening to any view that isn't state sponsored.-
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wtagg11 months ago
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"The problem he had with our party was the fact we lost our way."
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wtagg11 months ago
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"It's about time somebody told the truth about Limbaugh! Hatred and lies are not acceptable on our airwaves!"
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I'm blowing in two ways on this. Telling the truth about a subject is always desirable. Preventing speech is always undesirable.
My suggestion is to pursue the first wherever it leads and let others judge for themselves what they want to believe in.
I equate this, and free speech in general, to the idea of religious freedom in this country. This idea is the foundation of the first amendment.
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Hhussk11 months ago
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How is this different than the policies of the previous admin?
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Excellent question.
The previous administration never tried to silence any media outlets. They never pandered to the media, even when it was popular to do so. And certainly, President Bush never singled out, in a speech, a member of the media as "someone not to listen to".
The closest example I can think of was a reporter G.W. called an "a-hole" during his 2000 campaign. He did this in a private conversation with Dick Cheney, which was overheard by the microphones.
In his Presidency, Bush never made the media an enemy. Not even MSNBC. He also never tried to silence any particular outlet.
But when President Obama targets AM radio only, by naming specifically and only, conservative talk show hosts, it is clear to me that he has a beef with only one group of the media -- the ALTERNATIVE MEDIA.
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wtagg11 months ago
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First, you are telling me that the government never tried to silence, for example, Howard Stern?
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Second, how is Obama's comment possibly construed to mean "silence"? I can't wait for this answer.
"conservative talk show hosts, it is clear to me that he has a beef with only one group of the media -- the ALTERNATIVE MEDIA."
Hilarious. You are suggesting that the highest paid, one, if not the most influential talk show entertainers is not part of the MSM. Is he an alternative? Certainly, just as a Ford is an alternative to a GM product. That doesn't one or the other not an automobile. Limbaugh is as much of an automobile as Olbermann or any one else on the other side of the political fence.-
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BB6411 months ago
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Well, the FCC has many words they fine you for. Mr. Stern, because he's a CENSORED, dumb CENSORED, was unable to comply with basic standards of daily conversation. That plus his show sucks. My limo has satellite. I've tried listening to the jerk. Without the hot chicks performing or at least claiming to perform lewd acts on the show, no one beyond 13 would listen. He's a jerk. A no one. He probably was a virgin until his last years in college. A no talent actor who found being a jackass profitable. But I digress, I don't like him so I don't listen.
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The good part here though, if the fairness doctrine takes them off public radio, they will all find homes on satellite. A medium where the FCC can't control things and the Feds collect no taxes. That means more profits for the hosts. So Rush, Sean and company will make even more money.... Way to go lefties.-
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wtagg11 months ago
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There have been plenty who have said the same words and not been fined. Why?
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Hate to inform you, but taxes are still collected on businesses and individuals. Just because their is a metal can rotating in a spot over the US doesn't mean taxes are no longer collected on the business owning said metal can.
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RedstateLib11 months ago
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"And certainly, President Bush never singled out, in a speech, a member of the media as "someone not to listen to"."
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Maybe not but he sure singled out Helen Thomas as a member of the White house Press corp as some who would not be called on to ask questions at press conferences as punishment for asking questions he did not like.-
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BB6411 months ago
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I have news for you, she's been a bitch to every Republican president since Lincoln. When you speak to the President of the United States, I don't care if you don't like them or not, you respect the office they hold. Helen disrespected the President publicly. It was very insulting as if she deserved more respect then any other reporter. I think she's lucky Bush is a bigger man than most. I would have pulled her credentials and had her tossed right then and there. No more free flights on Air Force 1, no more free parking, free food or anything. Bye-bye grammy. A lot of those media types think they're more important than the elected officials. They're not. And again, I mean that for all Presidents. Including Barry, Billy and Jimmy.
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k9kssr11 months ago
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Surely, regardless of political affiliation, most individuals in this country would rebel against suppression of free speech.....wouldn't they?
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jakesguile11 months ago
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Because of the complaints ever since he made that article. It was either him or they were commenting on me making sock-puppet lists on that other major forum, in which case they just admitted they knew something of the sockpuppets even though they weren't prominant on the forum, meaning they themselves were the sockpuppets, and proving my point thusly
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BB6411 months ago
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Hold on. I live in Milwaukee. I'm one of three members of the GOP left in the city. The other 2 are the County Adviser and the Arch Bishop. I've never witnessed any violence by our party nor have we sponsored any. I've seen the threats and actions done in the name of the Dems though.
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Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde, aged 26, was arrested in connection with the November 2, 2004, (election day), tire-slashing of Republican party vehicles in Milwaukee; he was charged with a felony in connection with the event on January 24, 2005, but agreed, on January 20, 2006, to plead no contest in exchange for a sentencing recommendation of restitution and probation. [2] However, on April 26, 2006, Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Michael Brennan threw out the plea deal and sentenced Omokunde to serve four months in prison and to pay $2,305 in fines and restitution. By the way he's the son of congresswoman Gwendolynne Sophia Moore Wisconsin's 4th congressional district.
Another great example of the Party of Peace would be Michael McGee jr. He's from Milwaukee. This guy has nothing on any radio show host.
As for Rush or Sean, I've never heard them once support the use of violence. They're conservatives, no question. But I've never once heard them support it. In fact most of their listeners would never consider it either.
Tell you what, tell me what day Rush or Sean suggested violence to our leaders. I'll have them charged right now. What charges? Keeping in mind I will use the same standards your side has used over the last 20 or so years.
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Jeboba11 months ago
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Anyone that promotes hatred and validates the loonie toon nutcases on either side, should be silenced for 'inciting to acts of violence". THIS is Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. THEY spew such bile that the nutbag righties out there feel like they are empowered to carry out whatever they have in mind.
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THAT is why Rush, et al are dangerous. They have the right to say what they want. They do NOT have the right to recruit domestic terrorists which is what they help to do!
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dunkirk11 months ago
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ROFLMAO after Bush more then doubled the size of the government Limpaw is worried??? ROFLMAO. I think there should be a mandatory class given for all right wingers to show them what hypocrisy means. it seems that is one of the key planks of their party.
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Jeboba11 months ago
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Sadly, there are millions of less than brilliant Americans who make up their minds based on what Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, etc., have to say. They believe the lies. They are too lazy to find out the truth on their own so they drink the koolaid of the neocons. ANYTHING that can be done to either silence or tone down the purveyors of bile, hatred, and lies on the right will be good for the country as a whole!
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dunkirk11 months ago
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ROFLMAO, I can understand his opposition to the prescription bill since it required verification something Limpie seemed to have bypassed. BTW what did become of Limpie calling for mandatory sentences for ALL drug users? Oh yeah I forget he IS a drug user.
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BB6411 months ago
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Don't lump us in with your side when it comes to learning about a candidate. They listen to Rush or Sean simply because there isn't anyone left. Most members of the GOP are not on welfare or AFDC so we can't afford cable. We listen to traditional TV. ABC, NBC and CBS are little more than entertainment shows today. I don't care about American Idol or that someone is leaving CSI. We'll have 20 minutes of a sports team that stinks but we won't hear about a gaff Biden made. Then again, they only have a 1/2 hour, there isn't enough time to cover all of them.
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BTW, I don't hate the President. I don't like him at all. I think he's a stuffed shirt. I think he's terrible. But I will not hate him. Hate is generally a feeling reserved by the DNC for their use. Your words describe the DNC of Wisconsin and much of the mid-west perfectly.-
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BB6411 months ago
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Spend some time in Milwaukee or Chicago. You will see if you claim to be a Republican. I do a great deal of charity work. When some find out I belong to the GOP it get's very cold. They still want my money but things change. The good thing, treat me badly and I find someone else that needs the help.
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Hhussk11 months ago
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I was against President Bush's increased size of government.
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I am vehemently against Obama's 1 trillion est. quadrupling of government.
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stephen-johnson11 months ago
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Limbaugh correctly notes that the purpose of the Obama "stimulus" package is to stimulate the growth of government, NOT the economy. And it's loaded with special interest pork to boot. No Republican should support it. Obama is using Limbaugh as a boogeyman now that the left's favorite boogeyman - Dubya - has left the scene.
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jimdoze11 months ago
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"Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."
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Next time you quote him, get it right.
Personally, I would strongly assert a correction to Rush. That is, if Obama does all that he said he would in the run up to the election, he will fail. My biggest cause for hope now is that Obama seems to have toned down his approach dramatically in the days following the election... particularly in regards to foreign policy... and, perhaps even in re: domestic policy.
Sorry, DenCuddly, the republicans did not screw the economy nor did they concentrate on the wrong war. In regard to the economy, let's start with Fannie, Freddie, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd... and then perhaps move on to the primarily democrat supporting banking houses that were securitizing the mortgages not held by Fannie and Freddie. In regard to the war... Bush Iraq policies have removed as the greatest flashpoint for world war since the Treaty of Versailles. Obama can now draw down the troops from Iraq specifically because of the surge. In fact, Bush threw Obama a major bone by not drawing down more troops at the end of his term when he clearly could have.
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DenCuddy11 months ago
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Wasn't it Limbaugh who stated "I hope he fails"? I've heard nothing of a response from the administration. Pundits, sure but nothing official. The poor republicans world is crashing down around them and they don't have a delusional president to reassure them everything is OK.
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Guess what guys republicans screwed the economy and concentrated on the wrong war. Now reality shines in and they start screaming obscenities, hope the country collapses and convulsing, LMAO! Then they claim to be patriots.-
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GLee11 months ago
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To sit back and have Bush to point at with blame is very easy. Yes, an easy way 'out' for our liberal friends. Alas, the famous 'do nothing Congress' who has literally done nothing for 18+ months to help set up an election at a dear cost to its citizens. Congress with the help of our dear MSM. But yes, Bush is the sole cause of our 'mess'.
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wtagg11 months ago
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If the congress did nothing, as you suggest, then they are culpable in continuing the problems, not causing them. That "do nothing Congress" existed for two years, 2007-2008. Please account for the other 6 years.
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Isn't it ironic that in those years, the minority representatives in both houses wielded such enormous power and then in 2007, they did nothing?
It is easy to blame Bush because he is to blame. It is easy to blame both the rep and dem congresses because they are to blame. Please let me know if you would like to discuss these points further.
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GLee11 months ago
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Cuddy, ur like the little girl that grew up beside me. She would sit in here window and try to catch me doing something wrong so she could tell her Momma and God forbid, her Mom would call my Mom to get me in trouble.
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You're my 'neg' bi otc h and I really appreciate your following my posts. I must be doing something right??
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Leemck0211 months ago
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Stephen-johnson, did you see how the President already having enough votes to pass the stimulus bill, held back. and instead went to the Republicans to seek their input for a bi-partisan bill? So, we are going back to a democracy where representatives get to represent for a more perfect union.
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I am certain if they play games he will pick up and move on without them. They can ask the tough questions and deserve answers. The President did say he would seek input from all sides. Aren't you proud of America that we are now acting like a republic?
Don't let Rush fool you to wish the President ill, or to fail. Instead, write your Representatives and demand they get smart and stand up for your interest; the compromise in the bills that move on to the President will be far better than we have seen in a decade. You are the ticket to our success not Rush.
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Jeboba11 months ago
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oh puleeeeze, the 'do nothing congress' bullcrap again. The congress that COULDN'T do anything because they were blocked, fillibustered, etc by the Republicans in both houses and the inability to override a veto from the white house.
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How convenient you blame this on the Dems when it was the Repubs that caused the "DO NOTHING" you so love to point to. But during the Clinton years when the congress had vast Republican majorities, and had the ability to override presidential vetoes, you blamed Clinton. You right wing nutbags can't even figure out how to be consistent, let alone logical.
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Tangent00111 months ago
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Re-instituting the draft would take an act of Congress.
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dunkirk11 months ago
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Ya gotta love the spin the right puts on stuff. We have Bush nationalizing the banks and Limpaw supports it fully. ROFLMAO, but then again I guess the War-Hero of the right (ROFLMAO) didnt bother to look tht the most successful nations in teh world have a socialist leading bent. But go ahead spin away on what he said, you guys ignored all warnings about the economy imploding when Bush's housing bubble exploded.
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Jeboba11 months ago
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See? Listening to Rush again! Obama has no plans to change us to a socialist nation. This is just the spews and lies from the radical right. AND YOU BELIEVE IT. Pity. Your brain is a terrible thing to waste but you've already lost yours.
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4thchance11 months ago
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I'm glad you brought up the DRAFT issue.
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I PREDICT that Obama will reinstate the draft.
I'll also predict that Obama will be even more tough on terror then Bush was.
I alos predict that Obama will greatly increase the size of our military.
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aceofspades111 months ago
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", but lefty talk radio just does not fly with people."
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Maybhe its because the people you call "lefties" are a bit smarter than the lockstep cons who need someone who stinks like Limburger to guide them.
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Tangent00111 months ago
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Progressive radio is a relatively recent phenomenon, while Conservative radio has decades of entrenchment. While Air America had had it's mis-steps, progressive radio in general has been steadily gaining market share. I don't know what programs they have in Seattle, but the AM760 line-up in Denver is pretty solid and I have yet to hear any giggling.
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"And the Dems acually compromised and gutted the infrastucture allotment to give the Repubs more tax breaks and agreed to cut expenditures to social programs like family planning."
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Yet the Republicans are still hollering that the bill is not bi-partisan enough. Well, guess what? We've had decades of Conservatism at the reins of the economy, and look where it's got us. I think it's high time to mix in a fair amount of Liberalism.-
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Jeboba11 months ago
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We will never know because Bush's Mr. Paulsen didn't put on any requirements to tell us how they will use the money. Mr. Bush's Mr. Paulsen just GAVE 'em the money, no strings. Now THAT is smart government, REpublican government...yesssiiirreeee.
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Charlson11 months ago
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The stimulus bill that the Repubs have rejected because it didn't give enough tax breaks is just obstructionism. 33% of the bill goes to tax cuts which wil not produce enough jobs and economic stimulus to get our country back on it's feet. But the 17% for infrastucture will give jobs to both workers and companies. And the Dems acually compromised and gutted the infrastucture allotment to give the Repubs more tax breaks and agreed to cut expenditures to social programs like family planning. The Repubs don't want to work to get our economy back in shape but want it to fail just like their hero Limpballs said.
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4thchance11 months ago
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I find it odd that millions of people listen into conservative talk radio, but lefty talk radio just does not fly with people. It's weird? But then again, I have tuned into AIR BISCUIT AMERICA here in the Seattle area a few times (Yes it's still on here) and found that for the most part, those people are INSANE! They compare Bush with Hitler and so on, they sit around and giggle about it like little school girls. It's really really hard to listen to their hate filled BS. I'm guessing it's their obvious HATRED that most don't like or want to hear.
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Jeboba11 months ago
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Republicans have no desire to do ANYTHING, EVER, in the best interest of the average american or the country. ALL they care about is enriching the richest and filling their pockets. The Republican party either has to reform and shed the majority of it's current members, or die a slow agonizing death! Their ideology is no longer acceptable to the majority of true Americans. That is obvious by the smaller number of righties here on MSN who almost always have negative ratings. WAKE UP PEOPLE! You lost and all the lies and crap in the world that you make up and sling against the wall are not going to change that!
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greenmac11 months ago
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When are people going to learn...it is not the time for the "them and us mentality". the economy is sinking and something must be done. whatever is implemented will require tweaking as it goes forward. Investing in infrastructure keeps people and companies working and it appears the infrastructure requires the attention.Jobs and companies also provide tax revenues coming back to the government...so a percentage of each dollar going out comes back. Without these jobs , more would be on some form of social assistance..money going out..not much coming back.
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4thchance11 months ago
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go to this link
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http://www.am1090seattle.com/
then click on (audio) then click on (listen live)...if you can stand to that is!
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greenmac11 months ago
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So you are going to stop working because of a project that went bad. I believe there is very few bad projects...there is bad management of projects..poor estimating of projects...but if a project is created to fit a need then that is a good project.
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Poulenc11 months ago
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Ye gods, you conserv guys 'n' gals posting here are just too much!
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The point was, you've got to dig yourself out from under nasty partisan spew--i. e., that of Limbaugh--to be able to address effectively the actual problems that besiege our country.
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Georgia5011 months ago
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Whatever one thinks of eloquence, it is not and never has been an excuse for refusing to address one's opponent on point.
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We hear Limbaugh making points supported by facts.
We then observe liberals refusing to address his points and instead making flimsy partisan accusations, as if Limbaugh's assertions amount to claims of nonpartisanship on his part.
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Tangent00111 months ago
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"We hear Limbaugh making points supported by facts."
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No, we hear Limbaugh wishing for the President to fail, without giving any reason to believe Conservatism has at all succeeded, or would succeed at repairing the economy. Limbaugh just wants four more years, four more years, four more years (repeat and fade).-
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Georgia5011 months ago
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Obama's first order of business has been to weaken our stance against terrorism, placing bimbos in front of cameras who can only stutter and stammer when asked pointed questions about what will be done with terrorists. His first formal TV interview was with an organization not known for its pro-American perspectives (I'm being charitable here, just to goad you on.)
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Who in God's name wants Mr. I-Love-Osama to succeed in his efforts to weaken America? Even Obama's supporters admit that no field operative or CIA agent who values his/her career would dare to take lethal steps against a terrorist without a formal letter of approval from the White House and at least 3 members of Capitol Hill.
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willottica11 months ago
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We hear Limbaugh making points supported by facts.
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Off air? There's not a lot of facts presented on-air.
Why would Liberals bother to respond to made-up facts?
Partisanship refers to supporting (or denigrating) a party over all others. This is something that Rush excels at. I base this observation on those posts that PC25 has submitted to Propeller (right out of the horse's @ss, as one might say).
The claim that by getting people to tune into Rush you're going to give him more voice is somewhat laughable. Everyone I know who isn't an ardent Rush supporter already, would see his rants for what they are. Unsubstantiated, unsupported, temper tantrums.
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PatrioticAmerican11 months ago
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So the left seems to know a lot about what Limbaugh and Hannity have to say more then i do, Do they listen and watch them???? or do they get their Info from a 3rd party??? if they listen and watch then they are part of the reason these kind of shows are so popular so thank you for listening and thank you for watching. If you don't listen or watch and you get your info 3rd party then you cant really put a lot of power behind what you are saying here because every story changes every time its told
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Jeboba11 months ago
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I listen to them so I know what the enemy's talking points are for the day. Keep your friends close...keep your enemies closer. It's about all I can do to keep from vomiting every time one of them opens their mouth and the lies and hatred come spewing out.
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willottica11 months ago
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Obama will have to go toe-to-toe with an authentic, thoughtful political opponent and genuine conservative.
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That would be great! But it's not going to happen with the current republican party. McCain lost for the reasons that Democrats were saying he would lose, right from the outset. There was free advice given: Stop focusing on attack ads and try to win on your own merits. McCain didn't do that. There was precious little time devoted to McCain by McCain's campaign, and since Obama didn't go there (as he needn't have) McCain got precious little coverage. -
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antibrainwasher11 months ago
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Entrenched beligerent idealog religious supersititous irrational fearmongering coward racist morons: I give you the republican party after the brains and money pulled out, like Rush Limpbaugh's third wife pulled out when she found the kiddy porn and oxy cotton and closet homosexuality.
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BTW, did you see the new revelations of the great Republican, the Rev Ted Haggart????
He was boinking some guy in his church, preaching gay bashing. The stench from republican cowardice and hyprocracy is like the brown cloud of toxic sludge over china, it blots out the sun.
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cherev11 months ago
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"Obama still thinks he won. "
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He's got pretty good reason to think so. Put whatever spin on it you'd like, the Republicans dropped the ball back in 1988. Bush Sr. was a terrible president and a lot of true conservatives deserted the party in 1992 which paved the way for Bill Clinton. Then, the Republicans put up Bob Dole. Nuff said.
Then, the Republicans put up George Bush who, although he was much better than his father, didn't do what should have been done. And, then the party selected McCain who, while I have the greatest respect for his service to our country, didn't represent true conservatism.
So now, Obama is president. However, he got there, he's it. And he's got a Democrat Congress to back him up. Let's admit the truth - we've gotten our clocks cleaned just like in 1992. If Obama is smarter than Clinton, he won't get a Republican congress like Clinton did in 1994. Of course, that's what saved Clinton.
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Georgia5011 months ago
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How am I part of the problem?
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Not that you perchance read Coulter's recent article, but here you are bloviating about the divisiveness of conservatives, yet we're not the ones who produced books and films about the assassination of a president we disagreed with, nor are we the ones who booed and hissed an outgoing president.
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Georgia5011 months ago
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Obama still thinks he won. In a number of states, he failed to outperform Kerry. Rather, McCain underperformed Bush.
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It's one thing to know you won the contest. It's quite another to know why. But that's another story.
Now that Obama managed to get to the White House fighting Bush, Cheney, Palin, and everyone but McCain (I say this to McCain's disgrace as a leader), he now takes up the fight against an entertainer on the radio. You know...the same medium our grandparents grew up on. Oh wait...radio is going strong. Wherefore is the NYT? Other liberal rags?
One day the world will edge ever-so-slightly toward perfection. And in that marginally more perfect world, Obama will have to go toe-to-toe with an authentic, thoughtful political opponent and genuine conservative. Not to be confused with McCain. Obama will rue that day, just like every other liberal who's had the pleasure.-
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Jeboba11 months ago
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Bush deserved more booing and hissing than he got. He did more to damage this country than anyone in history. He's lucky all he got were boos and hissess....so far. Hopefully he will be the sole inmate at Gitmo soon and have only one cellmate ... Cheney. THAT is what he really deserves!
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Poulenc11 months ago
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Georgia, may I suggest to you, with all the humility I can summon (which feels like enough), is that the time for endless finger-pointing with obligatory ad hominem attack, of which MO you are an exemplar, is OVER.
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That's the point.
No more partisan p*ssing contest.
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Jeboba11 months ago
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I too listened to Rush every day when the first Gulf War began. I enjoyed him. He started out pretty balanced but you could almost hear the SWITCH be flipped one day. My wife and I noticed it at the same time. It was obvious he went on the payroll of the Republicans that day. He has grown more hateful, more one sided, and more of a water carrier for the Republican party ever since. He has become one of the vilest individuals on the planet. I wish him all the worst.
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ADAGUY11 months ago
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"If you had really listened to Rush you would have heard him criticizing the Republicans for that very thing"
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You are totally full of it!
I listen to this a$$ hole pretty often, and all through the Bush administration, I never once heard him mention the fact that the national debt was eating the budget alive. He never once said that Bush was overspending. Now, as a result of this bonehead, we are paying 1/2 trillion a year just to pay the interest on the national debt. -
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fjgalt11 months ago
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I listened to Rush Limbaugh back in the early 1990s, when Clinton and the Democrats in Congress were in charge. It was useful to learn about issues from Rush; he was a good source of information.
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Once the Republicans got control of Congress in 1994, they reneged on their 10-point pledge for limited government, spending reductions, etc. I hoped Rush would criticize them as he had the Democrats. All he did was apologize for everything the Republicans betrayed. They were always right, even when they did the same things for which he criticized the Democrats.
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Good advice to Republicans by President Obama. Don't listen to comedians when determining policy.
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ELISHEVA111 months ago
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Please - this is sooooooo childish! How is this even news? Obviously Obama was making a point, and it's a good one. If we don't find a way to co-operate - get together - focus on the goal of survival, we are done. When will some of you wake up and realize the seriousness of our situation. Add that to the gift of someone who may be able to lead us out - with our co-operation. Do we really think we have the luxury of giving lip service to the supposed opposition? We are all in this together. Let's make the best of it!
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PatrioticAmerican11 months ago
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we were all in this together for the past 8 years where was yhe "co-operation" then oh wait thats right the repubs were in control and the dems were ****** so they REFUSED to work with Bush even when he asked them too. But since now its the dems in charge and Obama has asked for co-operation all the past hate is gone ???? wow that is really 1 sided
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All I mean is that we better put the past aside. It is not relevant. We need to grow up now. The whole world has changed and some appear to have not noticed. The suggestion is to try a new approach - co-operation. If we never get there we'll be dead under a pile of ice from the fast approaching ice age that is almost upon us. Then who cares who is right??
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NoWayMan11 months ago
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more funny stuff from hotair and pc25.
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FTA: "Instead of marginalizing Rush Limbaugh, Obama managed to make him the most credible voice of opposition" (I stopped reading right there, btw)
if Obama has done anything that makes Rush the most credible voice on the right, then that's only good for the left. and that's horrible for the right, since no one who dwells anywhere near the center wants anything to do with Rush.
here's your ticket for 2012 cons: rush and palin.
run with it cons. please. pretty please.
we double dog dare you.
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Sageparadox11 months ago
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No, the left did not want George Bush to fail. The truth is actually the opposite. Especially after 9/11, everyone wanted to see George Bush suceed in making America great again. Unfortunately George Bush fail, not because anyone wanted him to fail, but because he was a failure. Just because certain people mentioned GW's short comings, doesnt me his short comings their fault.
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BB6411 months ago
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Can anyone actually explain how this stimulus will work? From the little I've been able to find in the mainstream media the majority of these projects are pork. Wind farms, rail projects and the like. None of which will help our economies and in the long run will cause even higher taxes. We as taxpayers are being told to cut back and reduce, yet BO is expanding even more. The American people will be making a change again. I think the midterms will make the Reagan Revolution or the Gingrich Contract with America look small.
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jaspersneed11 months ago
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From James Marcus:
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"A better litmus test [than a dig at Rush Limbaugh] of Obama's own nonpartisan ambitions (which will certainly hit some speed bumps along the way): his choice of Rick Warren for the inaugural invocation. That alienated some of Obama's own base, but he did it anyway."
Yes, it was a better litmus test than a flippant remark, but even so it was merely a symbolic illustration -- at an event wholly constructed of pure symbolism -- of Obama's authentic (I believe) values of inclusiveness and cooperation. Moving out of the symbolic and deeper into those authentic values will require more than stagecraft. The 3-minute spotlight has moved off Rick Warren; now let's see what happens in the real nuts-and-bolts world of the people Warren and those like him would continue to oppress. Let's see how Obama negotiates those speed bumps.
And I surely hope you're right that the democrats would never attempt censorship of talk radio. I would be more than a little put out at having to defend the inalienable rights of the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, and the whole repulsive list -- but I would most assuredly do so, in a heartbeat, if it came to it.
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John_Crippen11 months ago
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To fully understand what has happened over the past 8 years, I have collected 175 pages of conversations about George W Bush. These comments very dramatically from right to left. For folks that want a larger picture of the Bush Legacy, here is a good book... 'The Legacy of George W Bush, A collection of Conflicting Opinions'. Rather than add my own spin on thigs, I tried to just collect conversations as they came down the pike.
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"The Legacy of George W Bush, A Collection of Conflicting Opinions"
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ecoorganic111 months ago
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I have been very disappointed in Obama so far, but I do agree with his statement, “You can’t just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done.” Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh are just angry people who divide our nation. I am not a republican or a democrat or a liberal or a conservative. There is no party line I can ride whole heartedly. I agree with some of the republican stances and I disagree with others. Same for the liberal view point. I think it's sad to see so many people willing to completely change their values if their political party changes theirs.
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