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    Dionys11 months, 1 week ago

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    "God has provided GRACE as a means and way of Escape."
    
    God has provided Grace for people to accept or not. Let us know when you've accepted it and find peace rather than your vile, vitriolic hatred and judgement.
    
    "Michael W Smith does believe in a literal HELL as a key doctrine of the church denomination for which Smith belongs."
    
    Again you pretend to know what someone else thinks or believes. Having spoken to many people from many faiths, I can state for a fact that the majority of people in the majority of traditions do NOT hold every piece of their Church's (or church's, or temple's) doctrine as unassailably true.
    
    Michael Smith *might* believe in a literal hell. I don't know. I do know that his actions in this life don't reflect an obsession with hell, which is apparent to just about everyone in your being. I wonder what that says about you?

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      Redneck11 months, 1 week ago

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      You do not understand the Biblical concept of grace. The Grace of God empowers one to believe and do the will of God. One can refuse His grace, resist His Grace but His grace received ALWAYS brings Faith and that faith it to please God in obedience.

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    Dionys11 months, 1 week ago

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    When you posted your latest hell and damnation piece, you quoted three completely unrelated, single sentance (or sentance-fragment) pieces of scripture. I don't think you're the model of someone who should be criticizing others for taking things out of context.
    
    Plus if we view the Gospels as a whole, and Christ's relationship with God as the understanding of a changed God from the OT, I think this wonderful piece of music is set in the perfect context.

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      Redneck11 months, 1 week ago

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      Your the one who does not understand "context" nor the quoting of Scriptures by a believer. You have demonstrated your lack of understanding over and over.

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    Dionys11 months, 1 week ago

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    "Thissame Jesus warned to fear Hell."
    
    'This same Jesus' also reflected that Hell wasn't neccesarily a seperate existance, but that Hell was right here on earth in this life we're currently living -- for some people. Likely as not, as reflected in your constant blathering about hatred and damnation, He meant people like you. Living in your own self-created hell.

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  Mutainia11 months, 1 week ago

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  From my understanding of scriptures, the Quran is far more consistant on the duration and permanence of horrific, bond-boggling damnation. Not so with the Bible.

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    Dionys11 months, 1 week ago

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    Probably true, though I don't know how 'Hell' is portrayed in the Qu'ran. For the Bible, the damnation-hellfire kind of hell is a fairly recent invention. The original understanding was of an underworld where people went when they died with no particular ties to whether or not they obeyed or disobeyed God's commandments/laws. Sort of an in-between, sorting place, rather than a damnation, burning place. Seeing as how the Qu'ran in parts adopts Christianity and Judean beliefs but puts a more modern spin on them, it wouldn't be surprising to see more hell and damnation.

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      Mutainia11 months, 1 week ago

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      Believe me, if you KNEW how hell was portrayed in the Qur'an, you'd probably run screaming from Islam, or, you'd be back in Afghanistan trying to please Allah in the hopes of escaping such a hell.

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  CRYMTYPHON11 months, 1 week ago

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  Anyone can worship a God bigger than themelves.
  
  I doubt anyone ever worshipped a diety who was smaller than themselves.
  
  A God who would damn eternaly on points of theological order, - is one of the small gods; not worth a large G.

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    Dionys11 months, 1 week ago

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    "Anyone can worship a God bigger than themelves.
    
    I doubt anyone ever worshipped a diety who was smaller than themselves."
    
    Ahh.. but this was the WHOLE POINT of Christ's coming. He was a soft, weak baby God in counterpoint to the Roman's angry, hard, violent emperor-God. He embraced the weak, the marginalized, the poor and reversed the political order of the time. He was the greatest of the small Gods. Don't you think?

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      CRYMTYPHON11 months, 1 week ago

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      Uhm, err, well, no.
      I picture Christ as being much bigger than Zeus.
      Zeus DID damn people for bad reasons.
      I.E. Sysyphus and Prometheus.
      
      And Zeus also started as a weak baby in hiding..
      
      But that Christ championed the small and weak, does not make Christ small and weak;
      it makes him the biggest diety I have yet seen anyone light a candle to.

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  joelpietersen8 months, 2 weeks ago

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  Watch Religulous that will open your eyes - religion is most certainly the opium of the masses!

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