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Posted By Beau7890 10 months ago in Political NewsWhat's up with the Republicans? Have they no sense that their policies have sent the country hurtling down the road to ruin? Are they so divorced from reality that in their delusionary state they honestly believe we need more of their tax cuts for the rich and their other forms of plutocratic irresponsibility, the very things that got us to this deplorable state?
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berkeley10 months ago
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Beau789010 months ago
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And some might say he's a bit too partisan here, mainly blaming the Republicans for slowing the process and allowing big business to raid the Treasury--though he does add a couple of parenthetical references about halfway through the article alluding to Democratic complicity.)
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Unfortunately, the cost of campaigns and difficulty of getting honest' messages to the public directly result in an adversarial two-party system and Congressional prioritization of wealthy interests and special projects for members' home districts. I don't know how this can be fixed, no matter what the president does. Media outlets are usually more interested in grand pronouncements, no matter how misleading they may be, and in nasty fights between ideologies than in honest discourse.
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Endoscopy10 months ago
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ROTFLMAO
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The economy dump was caused by the housing bubble bursting in 2006. All of the mortgage backed paper lost over 30% of its value. Money just disappeared from the financial institutions. The changes made in the CRA and other banking laws related to mortgages in 1992 triggered the bubble in 1995 when it went into effect. But liberals never admit to messing up. In 2004 the youtube of the Democrats ranting against the oversight person bringing bad news of Fannie and Freddy was very nasty. They accused him of trying to kill all CSE's. Democrats created the mess and refused to let anything be done about it. Then they have to blame the Republicans.
The problem with this messy thrown together package is that the time it will take effect. 18 months at the earliest with the rest of the real package taking effect in 2011. Added to that is the little fact that a large percent is pork under a different name. What has paying for birth control have to do with an economic stimulus. That and a lot of other liberal agenda items have been tucked into the bill. Government programs galore going into the future without end. Economic stimulus? Who is kidding who. Immediate fixes are needed not future pie in the sky. The total package with the $300 billion of TARP left makes the bill for the taxpayers close to $1.125 trillion. And the liberals ranted at the $400 billion of Bush. And the liberals are only getting warmed up. Tax and Spend. First spend, spend, spend, and then "Oh my gosh we have to pay for this somehow! We need to raise the taxes!!" They are ridiculing this in congress right now but the real question is how do we pay for this?
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Albmore10 months ago
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Yes, we are forming the 4th party group here. OUR platform will be out next week. We are not rich, nor powerful. We will be the david in the bible fight against 2 giants. We can only depend on YOU the average citizen who has had enough and is ready to take on those who many say cannot be taken on. We will have to depend on volenteers and alternative media, BUT we will fight with all we have. OUR government has been running out of control for to long.
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I believe there are enough Americans who feel the same. Divided as the two parties wish us to be we can do little. Together is the only way! This may mean joining together with other independent groups to further OUR same interest later. One thing is certian though, if we continue to do nothing, IF we continue to live in fear of challenging these 2 parties, we will lose ALL of OUR rights and freedoms to them and them that work hand in hand with them.
We are the only ones who can determine OUR destiny! Are we going to allow the government to do it run it for us or OUR we going to retake OUR government and restore it to one of the people? -
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Charlson10 months ago
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“With that capital in hand,” said Mr. Pressey, “not only do we feel comfortable that we can ride out the recession, but we also feel that we’ll be in a position to take advantage of opportunities that present themselves once this recession is sorted out.”
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"Take advantage, indeed. That, in a nutshell, is what the plutocracy is all about: taking unfair advantage."
This is the attitude the wealthy wall street bankers have to the detriment of our country.-
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reasonable110 months ago
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That attitude is the reason that there should be NO bailouts! Bailouts are just bandaids over our more serious wounds. I can't understand why we reward people for failing! If the companies are poorly run, let them fall. Others will take there place!
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DarkWizard10 months ago
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Charlson,
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I am with you. Here was the other part of that same piece in the article.
FTA - "The public was told that the money would be used to loosen the frozen credit markets and thus help revive the economy. But as the article pointed out, there were bankers with other ideas. John C. Hope III, the chairman of the Whitney National Bank in New Orleans, in an address to Wall Street fat cats gathered at the Palm Beach Ritz-Carlton, said:
“Make more loans? We’re not going to change our business model or our credit policies to accommodate the needs of the public sector as they see it to have us make more loans.”
How’s that for arrogance and contempt for the public interest? Mr. Hope’s bank received $300 million in taxpayer bailout money."
The republican philosophy of finance will be the ruin of both the Republic and our democratic beliefs. Unfortunately, the republicans seem to be fine with this prospect. It is an arrogant position that basically says that all who are not us should die or succumb to our will.
This has become my main beef with this distinction between to our two parties: Republicans have become too exclusive while Democrats have become more inclusive of the American public. Therefore, I agree with the premise of "Why should we listen to them?" They (the republicans) no longer have the best interests of the country at heart and are pushing their protectionist/isolationist ideals as patriotism.
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willottica10 months ago
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Goppy10 months ago
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As I've said before, when Newt Gingrich "Re-Invented" the Republican Party and Merged it with the Christian Conservative PAC ... a strange political rhetoric emerged ... a kind of "Religio-Rhetoric".
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You see this reflected in various SACRAMENTAL MANTRA's or PRAYER POLITICO that The Modern Republican voices over and over again ... as if on automatic pilot ... or religious trance.
One of these Mantras is "Mainstream Media" .... also referred to as "Vast Left Wing Media Conspiracy".
Another is: "TAX CUTS".
In spite of all evidence that the United States has one of the lowest Tax Rates in the Industrial World .... the Religious Mantra: CUT MY TAXES! is still chanted ... of course with no real relationship with reality.
As evidence by this table below. This table references the Tax Rates of all major industrial nations as a percentage of GDP.
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1 ...... Denmark ...... 48,9%
2 ...... Sweden ...... 48,2%
3 ...... Belgium ...... 44,4%
4 ...... France ...... 43,6%
5 ...... Norway ...... 43,4%
6 ...... Italy ...... 43,3%
7 ...... Finland ...... 43,0%
8 ...... Austria ...... 41,9%
9 ...... Iceland ...... 41,4%
10 .... Hungary ...... 39,3%
11 .... Netherlands ...... 38,0%
12 .... Spain ...... 37,2%
13 .... Luxembourg ...... 36,9%
13 .... United Kingdom ...... 36,6%
14 .... Portugal ...... 36,6%
15 .... Czech Republic ...... 36,4%
16 .... Germany ...... 36,2%
17 .... New Zealand ...... 36,0%
18 .... Poland ...... 33,5%
18 .... Canada ...... 33,3%
19 .... Ireland ...... 32,2%
19 .... Greece ...... 31,3%
19 .... Australia ...... 30,6%
20 .... Slovakia ...... 29,8%
21 .... Switzerland ...... 29,7%
22 .... South Korea ...... 28,7%
23 .... USA ...... 28,3%
23 .... Japan ...... 27,9%
24 .... Turkey ...... 23,7%
25 .... Mexico ...... 19,8%
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amazed10 months ago
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Perhaps Cummins layoffs have something to do with their decision to stop producing on-road truck engines (they are the largest producer of truck engines in the US) because of the expense and difficulty in reaching the 2010 emission standards for diesel engines.
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This in NOT a result of Republican policy, but of more liberal-leaning lawmakers. Obama's plan to let each state set their own emission standards will make it impossible for auto makers to profitably meet the requirements (could be 52 or more different standards), yet their businesses distress or out and out failure will surely be attributed to Republican greed and plutocracism rather than the well-meaning but misguided and over-regulation from the left.
Here's the link for the Cummins decision:
newsgroups.derkeiler.com/pdf/Archive/Misc/misc.tra...-
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DarkWizard10 months ago
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amazed,
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"Obama's plan to let each state set their own emission standards will make it impossible for auto makers to profitably meet the requirements (could be 52 or more different standards), yet their businesses distress or out and out failure will surely be attributed to Republican greed and plutocracism rather than the well-meaning but misguided and over-regulation from the left."
Thank you for playing. Take your wares elsewhere as you are fairly clueless when it comes to the sovereignty of each state to make choices regarding that state. The Federal government has a Constitutional responsibility to uphold this sovereignty. Restoring some measure of each state to control what happens in its own state is not going to be perfect, but it will allow for many diverse ideas on how to handle complex issues to evolve. When some states come up with systems that work, others, including the Federal government, may be able to use those models to build better emission policies on. This will help the auto industry to build cars to those standards and help environmental issues simultaneously instead of making these issues an "either or" scenario.
BTW - Our current crisis is already being "attributed to Republican greed and plutocracism." So, don't worry about a little more being added on. It will be inevitable as the republicans are still pushing the same philosophies and idiocy that got us here. -
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Beau789010 months ago
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amazed, automakers do not need to meet up to 52 different standards. All they have to do to solve this problem is to meet the strictest standard of all the states.
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et's face facts. The choices American businesses make have nothing to do with Republican or Democratic policies. (Though Republicans generally tend to take a "business can do no wrong and must be given more freedom with their money" attitude--even when it's taxpayer money--that adds fuel to the fire.)
Publicly run corporations are run by boards of directors and executives who will lose their jobs if stockholders vote them out. Their nonsensical short-term strategies are driven by nothing other than the desire to please stockholders by boosting dividends and share prices.
This is why, no matter how stupid their decisions may be, they will always cut costs, even to the detriment of their companies' futures. Some may call it anti-capitalist or anti-free market, but the root of the problem with American business today is the way the stock market is set up--the fact that those running corporations are beholden to no one but shareholders. Shareholders are not required to invest for the long term. -
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jk548910 months ago
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This op-ed piece sums up the socialist ideology. That the people's wealth is better used by a centralized government than in the hands and bank accounts of the people who earn it with their own labor. Give me a free market and the fruits of my own labor any day over some group of lawyers in Washington deciding what's best for me and my family.
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Sageparadox10 months ago
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Try living in mid to southern Ohio which is mostly republican conservatives. Not only do we have to pay and file for a State and Federal tax; We have to pay and file for city and school district taxes. Do ever tell me conservatives are not for taxes.
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Albmore9 months, 4 weeks ago
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Goopy- First your remark that Obama is a centralist can be debated. Though I will give you the benifit of the doubt on that. Even if he is a centralist, ONE man no matter how you may be in love with him, does not change the 2 party domination and rule of OUR country. ONLY an alternative and a loss of their strong hold will change a thing. I think if OUR party had already been formed, maybe Obama would had been a member.
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2nd Taxes- What you need to add in most of these countries the middle class is below that of the US. Also these are smaller countries. Some smaller than states in the US. They also are tax for national health care.This has been a major problem with the high unemployment rate and the medical attention often does not measured up to those insured in the US.
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