Priest uncovering beginnings of Final Solution »
Posted By Dionys 10 months, 3 weeks ago in ReligionA Catholic Priest
Less known is the " Holocaust by Bullets," in which over 2 million Jews were gunned down in towns and villages across Ukraine , Belarus and Russia. Their part in the Nazis' Final Solution has been under-researched, their bodies left unidentified in unmarked mass graves .
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CRYMTYPHON10 months, 3 weeks ago
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This is a well-written article; eloquent.
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"The Holocaust has a land-scape in the mind's eye"
Dionys is right; priests do tend to get a bad rap*.
This one, DesBois, is doing what a priest should do:
taking confessions, speaking for those who have no voice, reminding the living that we stand on ground that is cursed
with innocent blood, and it is holy too, for the same reason.
Nutz.
Words don't express it easily.
Read the article.
* The article made me think about Dietrich Bonhoeffer,
a german pastor executed for trying to kill Hitler.
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Endoscopy10 months, 3 weeks ago
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I remember reading about this many years ago. The Nazi generals found that it was affecting the troops that were assigned to do it and was too slow to accomplish the task. It also was too costly to use at least one bullet for each person. For a while it was turned over to the SS. The gas chambers were the method to sanitize it and do it faster.
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Dionys10 months, 3 weeks ago
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Anything to dehumanize and depersonalize. The same tactics that lead to bombing raids, missiles, and long range artillery instead of troop-troop combat. If every soldier had to fight hand to hand, or fight their enemy face to face, I suspect wars would end a lot sooner.
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Natureboy10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"The gas chambers were the method to sanitize it and do it faster."
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And so they turned to the Bush family, whose I.G. Farben company constructed the death camps -
http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/bushgang.htm
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Dionys10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"that's the problem with words folks....they have an exact meaning no matter how we read them or try to bend them to our liking."
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Most English words lack an 'exact' meaning. That's the problem. Words are often too generalized. Or so narrowly defined so as to be utterly useless.
You're not much better than Hyperbola, yourself. You use this to get rid of the anger in your life and blame people like Hyperbola, or 'liberals' or Obama for your own failings and the failings of people in your life, instead of stepping up and being a person by dealing with them.
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kobzikov10 months, 3 weeks ago
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I doubt that most Americans know about it, but one of the largest Nazi atrocities was committed in Ukraine, near Babi Yar.
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My grandmother had a two-volume set called "The Black Book" detailing Nazi atrocities against general population of Belarus and Ukraine. When I was a teen I tried to read the first volume; I didn't make it past the first few chapters.
What I've read horrified me to the bottom of my being and I've seen documentaries on Holocaust before that. I doubt that one could grow up in Soviet Union and not see one. I can't say that it's something specific that I read in them that shook me so much, but the merciless precision with which the documents described how human beings exterminated other human beings without so much as a token display of emotion terrified me more then anything I can think of since then.
Apparently, the book has a wikipedia page,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_(World_War...-
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memestryker10 months, 3 weeks ago
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Anyone who thinks that allowing government to force us to register our firearms or limit our access to ammo, magazines, or rifles through taxes, bans, or whatever needs to read all of the sources cited here. That's how it starts--every time. The statistics certainly don't support such abridgements of rights, so it's just the face of tyranny, even if the politicians don't realize it. That is the only thing the Americans have over other nations. Access to tools of self-defense. The Jews should know better than anyone.
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kobzikov10 months, 3 weeks ago
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PSA: How to beat the spam filter
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If you'd like to post a link and you are getting blocked by the filter then submit your comment without it and then edit it to include the link. It works even if your comment has multiple links.
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Spadecaller10 months, 3 weeks ago
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How true! It is so important to be reminded about this. Stereotypes are false and produce prejudices that are unfair and hurtful. Stereotypes of atheists, Catholics Priests, or Jews are equally damaging. There were many heroes from the church during Hitler's reign that were instrumental in protecting and saving Jews at the risk of their own lives. I speak from personal experience, as the Grandson of such a survivor.
And sadly, there were also those who were complicit and supportive of the Third Reich. As there are those today supporting the return of x-communicated Williamson, a known Jew hater, to the Catholic Church. -
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TheNewsseeker10 months, 3 weeks ago
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Especially the catholic church is asked to remember the Holocaust at the moment! I can´t understand Pope Benedict´s behaviour towards Mr. Williamson and the Pius Brothers. How can a German pope rehabilitate someone who denies this unimaginable crime? Is he too much a theologian and not enough a politician? So as a "counterpart", I am glad that there a groups and individuals in the catholic church fighting against tendencies of marginalization and ignorance!
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