IS THIS OBAMA'S KATRINA? »
Posted By pc25 9 months, 1 week ago in NewsI guess what with Kentucky being a red state the heartless Barack Obama and FEMA can't be bothered helping the suffering Americans trying to cope with a massive ice storm that has left them powerless.
In some parts of rural Kentucky, they're getting water the old-fashioned way — with pails from a creek. There's not room for one more sleeping bag on the shelter floor. The creative are flushing their toilets with melted snow.
At least 42 people have died, including 11 in Kentucky, and conditions are worsening ?
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/winter_storm_outages
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Life after ice storm dire, getting worse in spots
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Local officials were growing angry with what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees. -
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jovial9 months, 1 week ago
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The headline of this story admits that Katrina was a disaster for Bush. Very good. I think conservatives are finally admittting that fact. They can no longer in retrospect blame it on the governor and the mayor as they for a long time have done.
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"however we are not talking about BUSH's performance now. I am wondering why Obama just didn
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t raise his hand and command the storm to stop."
--Bush and his neocon brigade of filthy flying monkeys represent the mother of ALL Katrinas for America. In retrospect, they're thoroughly disgusting and destructive behavior makes Katrina seem like a basement flood. Fortunately, we now have a President who won't take a vacation after declaring a state of emergency and who won't try to shove a doomed Social Security plan own our throats (yeah--that would've turned out REEEALLY well, huh cons?). -
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automan9099 months, 1 week ago
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What about the people of Kentucky?
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Obama has not so much as looked their way.
Could it be because they are white?
Maybe from a Republican state?
The Left Wing media has swept it under the rug too.
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UnusualSuspect9 months, 1 week ago
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Funny, pc...trying to compare something like Katrina (with several days notice that it was coming) to the ice storm in Kentucky, which no one knew the severity of until it hit.
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I'm not questioning the hardships and grief the people in Kentucky have experienced, but trying to compare the two is ridiculous.
FEMA appears to an arm of the government that just doesnt work well under pressure. It worked terribly under Bush, and doesn't seem to be off to a great start 2 weeks after Obama has stepped in. I do think Obama has to look long and hard look at FEMA, and either re-structure it or start all over with it.
But leave it to pc's partially coherent explanation, that Obama's enjoying the 80° temperature in the White House...is that laughable or what?
Keep trying, pc...maybe within the next 8 years you'll find some story on hotair or jammies, or some other credible site that's worth posting...LOL...-
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GLee9 months, 1 week ago
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pc,
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I live just outside of Lexington and we have individuals out with chain saws clearing roads so that people can get food and medications. Everyone is helping each other. We have had people in our house for a week because we were fortunate enough to keep our electricity. The local news atributes up to 24 deaths to the 'ice storm'. We are, as I type, recieving another dose of snow.......... already have 3" and still going strong. It is 18 degrees and all this when the last storms ice hasn't completely melted. People in this state do need help. It is beyond the scope of local and state committments. I am here and I see. It is like a war zone out there. Trees fallen everywhere and people pleeding for help. Now another storm on top of this misery. :^( -
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JohnGault9 months, 1 week ago
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I guess after reading 8 years of how the Neocons circle the wagons to protect Bush, you have pick up some of those habits. You state it appears that FEMA is not off to a good start, yet have you heard of any leadership from Obama yet? It is in all of our best interest to put pressure on our Government to do their job. Stating that this is not a legitimate story I think the people dying and those affected might have a different take on that.
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not2needy9 months, 1 week ago
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pc, you don't have a clue, you are gettig your news from a blog!! What a freaking joke.
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I AM IN KENTUCKY, i lost power for a couple of days, it was a nasty ice storm, but the day after the storm President Obama declared Ky a disaster area and FEMA is here now taking applications. Emergency Food Stamps are being issued as we speak, for people who lost food, and money is being provided by FEMA for people who lost more than food.
There are some people here who are still out of power, but they are the ones that are so remote and with so many huge trees down, the power lines are nearly impossible to get to, but they are working on it day and night. They have also brought in crews from several other states to work with LG and E (our local power company) to get everyone up and running. Shelters have been opened up state wide, either in schools, churches etc to provide people with warmth and shelter as well as food. Many people chose NOT to leave their homes, life is about choices.
Less than 50 lives lost is NOTHING in comparasion to Katrina, but why do i expect you to understand that, all you know to do is make excuses for Bush Co.
We lost 2 very good friends during this storm to carbon monoxide poisoning because they chose to put a generator in an attached garage rather than ventilate it properly, life is about choices, and it's not the president's fault that people make poor choices.
In our area alone there was over 200,000 people without power and now it's down to less than 7,000. That's pretty good progress, in light of the fact that there are still people displaced because of Katrina!
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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really only because the MSM is in love with him.......he hasn't even toured the disaster area, he sits on his rear end in his 80 degree plus White House Office throwing bi partisan super bowl parties while wining and dining congressional and senatorial leaders on $140.00 lb beef trying to garner support for his stimulus package while a portion of the country is without heat, electricity and water due to an ice storn that has already KILLED over 40 people. Where is the MS outroage over the slow response of the White House and FEMA.......
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CRYMTYPHON9 months, 1 week ago
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"He hasn't even toured the disaster" - yeah, that would be useful.
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Fly over the whole state in air force one; and wave to the people.
Obama is busy gettting his cabinet together, getting the stimulus bill passed so the
country can start to recover from your previous advice to it.
He is doing his job.
If you feel FEMA is not doing its job, - tell us what you think it should be doing.
Does it need more money? Are you calling for more National Guard ?
Should the focus be on temp shelters, or restoring electricity, or clearing roads? Should vouchers be given for energy bills, or hotels, or should extra pay be given to road crews ?
All that stuff is being done; across the whole state.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5...
Days after Katrina, the Prez was telling us everything was fine, FEMA was doing a great job,
- while we watched families sitting on their roofs staring at a drowned city,\
and listened to horror stories of survivors packed into the darkened super dome,
and bodies lay rotting in the streets.
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dunkirk9 months, 1 week ago
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Its interesting you compare an ice storm to katrina. Seems Obama singed emergency legislation the day after it hit and the extent of the problems made known. Instead compare to Bushs response to Katrina. Oh wait yeah he was out playing golf trying to raise donations to the GOP. Where was Obama during the storm? In the White House. When Katrina was predicted to be a cat 5 storm aimed directly at New Orleans several days before it hit where was Bush? off on vacation. When the levees broke and new Orleans was flooded where was Bush? Off on vacation. FOr the ice storm where was Obama? In the White House where he was suppose to be to take charge. ROFLMAO, keep spinning PC its pretty apparent when the right has nothing they start making up disasters in their mind.
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nostalgia9 months, 1 week ago
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FTA:
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Is Obama even aware what's going on in Kentucky? I know he's very busy between trashing Wall Street and Rush Limbaugh, but could he at least acknowledge these poor folks and get them some help?
Time has a good article today on the extent of the disaster in Kentucky
Kentucky's Ice Storm: Worse Now That It's Over
Life has come to a standstill in Kentucky, and it's difficult to imagine just who in the Bluegrass State had the more miserable Super Bowl weekend.
For utility crews who worked overtime through the weekend — battling subzero conditions Friday and Saturday — the challenge was not just repairing a few downed lines, but instead rebuilding a ravaged utility infrastructure from the ground up.
As for state officials, the weekend involved a rapid reassessment of just how dire the situation had become. Speaking out the day after some local municipalities decried a lack of federal or state emergency relief, Gov. Steve Beshear described the fallout from last week's ice storm as the state's largest-ever natural disaster. He then activated every last member of Kentucky's National Guard, dispatching all 4,600 Guardsman to assist with the statewide crisis
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,187...
The extent of the problem is staggering
When are people going to learn that FEMA is a dysfunctional agency
Bad enough that Obama hasn't said one word but where in the world is Janet Napolitano? Although there is talk that FEMA will become an independent agency again, it is still part of Homeland Security
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icono19 months, 1 week ago
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Interesting that a state that has the Kentucky Derby as its main attraction with its far reaching international connections, especially in Arab and Japanese money, would be over looked by the current Fed administration.
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slate9 months, 1 week ago
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When are people going to learn that FEMA is a dysfunctional agency
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I learned that first hand after Ike rolled into the gulf coast in September. Also during Katrina.
Though as with Bush it's not Obama's personal fault, the silence of the left is deafening after what they've put Bush through after Katrina.
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jordan119 months, 1 week ago
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Yes, FEMA is very dysfunctional. It was turned into an absolute mess under 'brownie', and the department of 'homeland' security. But that's what happens when you appoint someone who has a background in horses. Of course Obama should have fixed it by now. After all, he's had two whole weeks to fix everything. But just to allay all the 'concern' from those who showed SO MUCH worry over the good people of New Orleans, Obama is planning to remove FEMA from its current placement, and wants to bring back Witt to manage it. Witt, the fella with a background in disaster planning who cleaned FEMA up under Clinton.
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nostalgia9 months, 1 week ago
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There are some problems with Witt that may crop up if he is appointed
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Ex-FEMA chief profiteering on Katrina?
Witt’s firm charges Louisiana double its costs for subcontracted services
n the traumatic days after Hurricane Katrina, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco turned to one of the most respected names in emergency management: James Lee Witt, the so-called Master of Disaster. But an eight-month investigation by NBC News into the performance and billing practices of Witt’s firm, James Lee Witt Associates, raises questions about profiteering, cronyism and possible falsification of records by one of Witt Associates’ subcontractors.
Blanco hired Witt Associates to help Louisiana’s stricken communities work through federal red tape and to help manage storm debris removal. The governor’s move was praised as a necessary step to getting the overwhelmed state on the road to recovery.
But the state’s open-ended no-bid contract with Witt Associates also raised concerns about the financial implications of privatizing disaster relief.
In an October 2005 New York Times article, Witt was clearly sensitive to the notion that he might prosper from the Katrina disaster. “I just don’t want anyone to say that we used this as a way to profit or to try to get new business,” he said. “I just don’t want that.”
And during a taped forum at the National Press Club the following month, Witt said emphatically, “I’m not charging Louisiana anything if I’m not doing something for Louisiana.”
Nevertheless, according to information obtained by NBC News through public records, internal documents and interviews, Witt’s company has made millions of dollars from sizable markups on work performed by its subcontractors.
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fiftynine9 months, 1 week ago
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"Though as with Bush it's not Obama's personal fault, the silence of the left is deafening after what they've put Bush through after Katrina."...lol
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I live in Iowa,Cedar Rapids to be exact...do you really want to talk about disasters and ineffectual leadership at the highest level,especially fema and bush...
Where was the outrage when my neighbors and friends lost everything they own..barely got a whisper on the front pages across the country...WE are still waiting for FEMA to provide adequate housing for those people..oh,they did bring in some fema trailers..full of mold,leaking roofs,bad furnaces...where was the outrage then,now?
We had major ice storms here last year and this year.guess what..the people here got off there azzs just like in the floods and did the work themselves instead of blaming and whining....we still are cleaning up after the flood and ice storms,where are you?
Oh..probably sitting in your eighty degree homes typing right wing BS.
Where is the outrage PC25,slate?
Oh,thats kind of different isn't it !!
You are the ones that always bitch about the left wanting the government to do everything but when it suits your narrow minded agendas its a different story.
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k9kssr9 months, 1 week ago
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"I guess Kentucky and and a paralyzing ice storm isn't as cool as New Orleans and Katrina".
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No, but then neither were those other little towns along the gulf coast that were swept out to sea.....what were their names? Who cares, you never hear 'em mentioned even when they have done follow-ups on Katrina.....it only hit NO, right?
Having been in an ice storm recently, the one that hit Kentucky after hitting here, and an even more severe one several years ago that left people without power for weeks, I can tell you never being able to get warm for days on end is no fun. Neither is having no water. Whatever did we do before electricity?-
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hamy9 months, 1 week ago
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Um...most of us prepare for cold weather. We have had snow on the ground in Chicago for months. We were prepared for it.
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pokydoke9 months, 1 week ago
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We already went through this in Central New England this winter. Many lost power for over two weeks with temps in the teens. The President declared us a disaster area. I don't ever remember anyone wondering why the president wasn't going to visit us. I don't think the Guard was called out we just dealt with it. There were shelters set up for those that needed it. I'm pretty sure the people in KY can deal with it too. They are a tough bunch down there, they can handle it as well. pc25 is making a mountain out of a mole hill. More fodder for his anti Obama cannon.
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CRYMTYPHON9 months, 1 week ago
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"he hasn't done anything "
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except little tiny things like:
Ordered the closing of Guantanamo
Canceled executive secrecy laws on white house documentation.
Pushed his stimulous package through the house
Gave up smoking
Bombed Al-qaeda in Pakistan
Appointed his cabinet
Froze white house salaries
Signed the equal-pay act
Gave up smoking again
Gave an interview on Arab television
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codgerprice29 months, 1 week ago
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you know i wasnt going to respond but, i just cant help myself being from kentucky. what do you think people did before there was electricity or running water or let alone inside bathrooms. the people of kentucky are resourceful, and as far as people getting water from creeks if youre high enough on the mountain it is the best water there is, just be sure you look up the hill and make sure no possums or other dead animals arent in it. i dont think the "red state"applies here, have you ever been to kentucky and looked up some of the hollers and hills here. some of the electric lines were installed by having mules pull the lines up a mountain side. i guess they may use four wheelers now. when it comes to working on electricity, after you get to it, seems you wouldnt want to be in a hurry. people in this country have endured more times without running water and electricity than they have had it. maybe not this generation, but many before us. in situations like this , we cannot have it our way like burger king, we need to depend on each other and become communities again and lay aside our self centered lives aside and help another human being. thanks for allowing me to share an opinion and get over it.
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CRYMTYPHON9 months, 1 week ago
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The MSN is not covering this the way it did Katrina, because rural Kentucky doesn't have the glamour that New Orleans does;
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people on rooftops of a flooded city are better photo ops;
and hurricanes seem more dramatic than ice storm.
It isn't the worst disaster on record for the US; at least not in lives.
That would still be the Galveston 1901 hurricane.
But the Kentucky Gov says it is the worst natural disaster for his state.
Fema was supposed to have prepared for a hurricane disaster for New Orleans
years before it happened; but I don't think anyone was worrying about 'ice storms'.
And if we bothered to blame Bush, we could;
the present system is still only what Obama has inherited.
If there is a shortage of national guardsmen, or emergency resources, blaming Bush is as easy as it is pointless.
Frankly I think we can skip Bush.
Heck, let's forget him entirely.
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Hhussk9 months, 1 week ago
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I don't see how this disaster story can be ignored, but I'm getting the impression from here and the Mainstream Media, that they are attempting to ignore it.
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If Bush were President right now, they would be blaming him.
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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The MSN is not covering this the way it did Katrina, because rural Kentucky doesn't have the glamour that New Orleans does;
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people on rooftops of a flooded city are better photo ops;
and hurricanes seem more dramatic than ice storm.
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Tangent0019 months, 1 week ago
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"If Bush were President right now, they would be blaming him."
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No, not really. It looks like the states have things well in hand, and you can't build levees to protect against ice storms.
"By the way, I am hearing that this is the worst disaster on record for the United States."
No, it's the worst disaster in the history of Kentucky.
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meadhh9 months, 1 week ago
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I am appauled with the current actions of non-relief for the people of Kentucky. Why is it not reported that people are dying and freezing?? Where is the anointed one? He was elected as our first black president so why is he not helping the first half of his blood line? What can we the honest and caring people do to MAKE OUR GOVERNMENT RESPOND TO KENTUCKY'S NEEDS.
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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this sume it up perfectly
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OBAMA BE THEY NAME (a little blasphemous wouldn't you say)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PDehlPWsdQ
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FAdeToBLack669 months, 1 week ago
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"OBAMA BE THEY NAME (a little blasphemous wouldn't you say)"
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Yes, I would say that is a little blasphemous. but the only one saying that is you, so i would also say that you are "a Little Blasphemous".
Oh and stop posting links to youtube videos, if you need a video someone anyone with an internet connection could make, in order to explain your point, or you are using said video to prove your point, makes as much sense as using wikipedia to write a biography on johnny appleseed.
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david_nwpa9 months, 1 week ago
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I recall seeing a report that indicates that President Obama had signed an Emergency Declaration the day Governor Beshear sent it to him. He opened up the entire state of Kentucky to Federal disaster relief. FEMA has people on the ground helping alongside the National Guard which has been called upon to check on people from house to house.
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One should note, and this is key, Kentucky's storm is still fresh on the ground. Katrina's mess is still a problem, a full 3 years after it hit. There is no comparison; there are no formaldehyde trailers waiting for the people of Kentucky.-
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toph19739 months, 1 week ago
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Lets put the shoe on the other foot. If this happened when Bush was in office you would be screaming about all the libs wanting government action, all while defending the government by saying the utilities are a private entity and it's their responsibility for not making preparations for an ice storm. The hypocrisy of republicans is beyond compare.
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CRYMTYPHON9 months, 1 week ago
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That Kentucky has been hit by the worst ice storm in its history, fits the weird weather patterns predicted by climate change and global warming.
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Shorter but more intense winters, and longer and hotter summers.
Assume Kentucky's 2009 average temperature is going to be the same average as last year:
Using the low temperatures for its year so far, figure out how hot its summer would be.
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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if you are going to apply that standard for performance then you must do the same concerning Katrina. The incompetence of Gov Blanco and Mayor Nagin far exceeds whatever short comings the Governor of Kentucky exhibited. But now we have a problem. This is where the dilemma for the liberal mindset lays. If we exonerate Obama for the shortcomings of the Governor of Kentucky, then we must exonerate Bush for the same shortcomings of Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin.
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mesodude9 months, 1 week ago
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"But now we have a problem. This is where the dilemma for the liberal mindset lays. If we exonerate Obama for the shortcomings of the Governor of Kentucky, then we must exonerate Bush for the same shortcomings of Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin."
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--I think the problem was that Bush took too many vacations and his priorities were extremely screwed up. Btw, armchair quarterback and full-time chickenhawk cons are amazing in their ability to know everything. Since, as you claim, you already knew the governor and the mayor were incompetent, then how exactly does this absolve Bush? Exactly. It still doesn't let Bush off the hook. If you're the President, the buck stops with you and whether you think a governor or mayor in some state are up to the job or not, it's your job to be there to back them up. That's why you're the PRESIDENT.
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stuhodges539 months, 1 week ago
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Kentucky is bad-- but not even close to Katrina,Rita, Gustav or Ike. Get real people, we have been dealing with this crap and fema's disfunctional idiocracy for four years now. So if your cold, listen to Rush or hannity-- their full of hot air and should warm you up.
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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Kentucky is bad-- but not even close to Katrina,Rita, Gustav or Ike
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http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/11289/
Residents of other states were also affected by the storm. Missouri, Oklahoma, Illinois, Arkansas, Ohio, Tennessee and Indiana were all facing ice, cold weather and power outages heading into the weekend.
thats a lot of states and people to make light of, but in reality to be expected from a lib when it comes to the OBAMMESIAH
http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/conservative-sati...
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jovial9 months, 1 week ago
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Death toll from Katrina likely higher than 1,300
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Displaced people---estimated at over a million!
Kentucky disaster pales in comparison. What motive would someone have to compare the two? Well, if you were a Bush supporter the motive is quite clear. That's why we must never, ever, never, ever, let jammiewearing fools like that run this country again.-
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greenmac9 months, 1 week ago
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"This ladies and gentlemen is hypocrisy and compassionate conservatism all rolled up into one. Many of the supporters of the conservative ideology could give a rat's ass about Kentucky. They are just using this story to attack Obama. Don't be fooled...again'
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That about sums it up. I have a hard time grasping the mentality of some of these people. I don't mind a person that can put forth "honest...factual" information that opposes information myself or others post...and debating the issue. They seem to think it is payback time for what was posted in regards to Bush. Well most of the anti Bush info was based on facts and there were lots of examples of his failure to lead. So far PC25 and his band of followers have to dig deep, to find fault in Obama...or just make it up along the way. Has Obama been perfect so far...no...but is anyone.
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jovial9 months, 1 week ago
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It's time for jovial's wayback machine to get fired up. Here's what conservatives on propeller had to say about the Katrina disaster:
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Libsr funny said, "When are you idiots going to admit the New Orleans and Louisiana governments have far more blame than Bush ever deserved? Never, obviously.
Get over your hatred of Bush and realize your problems are local and not national in New Orleans. And quit friggin whining for more federal funding. If you really want to protect your home, try living ABOVE sea level and away from the coast." -
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jovial9 months, 1 week ago
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Locky12 had this to say,"Look at the people affected by Hurricane Katrina.
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They are mostly SAVAGES.
That's right! I said it. Call me all the names you want, they are SAVAGES.
They lived their entire lives with their hands out-- gimmie, gimmie, gimmie!
We're owed this and we're owed that!
And when the big one hit-- their inept mayor left a parking lot of school buses to rust,
thier loser governor cried on television.
All the while the residents looted, raped and murdered and pillaged New Orleans.
And that's Bush's fault, right?
In the history of this country, Katrina is NOT the worst natural disaster to ever hit and is NOT the worst response by the government but yet the people affected were more than willing to dig out of it on their own.
If such a disaster hit New York City, do you think Mayor Rudolph Giuliani would have begged for Federal help?? Only after exhausting every possible avenue (unlike Mayor Ray Niggin).
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jovial9 months, 1 week ago
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BB64, had this to say,"Oh yes. It's the evil George Bush's fault you were too damn stupid to listen to the evacuation. Then again, anyone living 2 stories below sea level next to the ocean, the Mississippi and a huge lake should be nominated for the Darwin awards.
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Listen, the Mayor refused to evacuate when it was recommended by the Feds. Their Governor refused to release jurisdiction to the feds waiting an additional 24 hours. Rescue resources were pulled to help salvage Senator Jefferson's home. The people themselves shot at rescue workers trying to help them.
Over the years we've given billions to the local officials to rebuilt the levies. Where's the money? Show me the money. If any community didn't deserve our help, it would be New Orleans. Typical liberal Democrat area of the world. Gimme, gimme, gimme."
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