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Posted By Spadecaller 10 months, 4 weeks ago in Political NewsA s written by Bob Dylan, "Oh, Mama, can this really be the
end, to be stuck inside" Washington with the insider blues again. After two long years on the campaign trail, the nation chose to believe its newly crowned leader’s vows to slay the demons of Washington, bar lobbyist sycophants from holding positions of authority, to change the politics of partisanship, and to usher in “a new era of responsibility.” Implementation of such lofty ideals is another matter entirely. Romancing the GOP and accepting corruption as the most expedient way to stimulate economic recovery is alienating this administration’s greatest asset, the will and spirit of the American people.
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Spadecaller10 months, 4 weeks ago
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Unlike his predecessors, President Barack Obama is leading a nation that is teetering on the precipice of a depression. Most Americans do not care what label legislation comes under. If it works and is passed with or without the support of the GOP makes little difference to families who are suffering from the loss of their homes and their jobs. The President’s desire to open his administration to both parties and to be the President of all the people are wonderful sentiments; but they must remain secondary to promoting the right legislation that will address the corporate fraud, unfair trade, and abuses of Wall Street that has driven the country into financial ruin. Romancing the GOP and accepting corruption as the most expedient way to stimulate economic recovery is only going to alienate this administration’s greatest asset, the will and spirit of the American people.
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jordan1110 months, 4 weeks ago
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Obama needs to do what he believes is right. The American people gave him that mandate. The CONS have shown they're still the same jerks they've always been, & personally I think he needs to knock off trying to be all things to all people. It's not possible, it wastes precious time, & he needs to just get on with it.
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GehlLady10 months, 4 weeks ago
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"Unlike his predecessors, President Barack Obama is leading a nation that is teetering on the precipice of a depression."
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The History Channel had a documentary on today about the Dust Bowl in the early 1930s. It gave me a visual reference of what Roosevelt walked into when he took office.-
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Spadecaller10 months, 3 weeks ago
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You apparently fail to understand that there are vast differences between the Great Depression and our current situation.
Unlike his predecessors, Obama is facing a world that has been reordered by the corporations. There was no military industrial complex during those years. The U.S. economy was not dependent on weapon sales and war as it is today.-
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GehlLady10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"You apparently fail to understand that there are vast differences between the Great Depression and our current situation."
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No, I don't. I may not understand all the ramifications of this global recession/depression, but I do understand the sheer size of it makes this different.
The documentary focused on the Dust Bowl, not the Great Depression and the economics. It was a disaster far greater than anything any President has had to deal with since then. Roosevelt rose to the challenge and found a solution, and realized, as I learned for the first time, that it was a man made disaster. I may be wrong, but you strike me as a visual kind of guy, all I meant was that the visuals made a huge impact on me, and though different, there are parallels between that time, and now.
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BB6410 months, 3 weeks ago
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Jordan, why is it when we're playing the game by your rules you don't like it. We conservatives do not believe in most of that the current president supports. His agenda, we feel will damage our nation. Because of this, we do not support his policies and voice our concerns. Unlike your side, you will not see the massive marches in Washington. You won't see a day without conservatives. You won't find our skits on TV claiming any of the Obama children were impregnated by the president. Rather than drinking the Kool-aid as many have we're exercising our first amendment rights and will continue to do so until they change it. Which from some of his appointments may be a lot sooner than most realized.
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Spadecaller10 months, 4 weeks ago
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I agree jordan. He is bending over too much. He has invited everyone to be represented; now the hell with those that only want to obstruct whatever he tries. Though I think the stimulus bill can be improved, I am sick and tired of hearing these miserable GOP sour asses pointing the fingers when they have done nothing to help for years.
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Time for them to shut up or help out. Enough bs. We are in trouble and this country does not need these phony jerk-offs pontificating just to get their fat asses covered and their lobbyists satisfied. -
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nonparted10 months, 3 weeks ago
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the bs is the dems and the president. for wanting his stimulus package passed without anyone taking their time to read over the 600 + pages and wanting to improve on it. does this sound fimiliar . it should because liberals were complaining about Bush's administration and most republicans as yes men. in addition in the last 4yrs congress is mostly to blame for this crisis for not doing or not seeing it coming. ( which congress was in control by the democrats.)
now if Obama wanted real change he would've looked outside the box and had economists with morals draw up his package instead of people that already had influence in Washington .
this is why this country will not be as it once was due to people that cant think for themselves to do the right thing and speaking out against their affiliated party.
didnt hear anything about substancial money allocated to small businesses which i think is the heart of the economy . (since BOTH PARTIES allowed the major corporations to move off shore )
i not saying there are'nt any good points in some conressmen & women but the majority (DEMS & REPUBS) are selfish, corrupt and are beholden to special interest groups.
if the majority of americans can see this and start looking into other parties then the American people will again start to prosper (this includes u spadecaller)
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mesodude10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"so your answer is trillions of dollars of debt, are you out of your freakin mind"
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--But I think you cons re-elected Bush when he blasted us up to the 10 trillion dollar mark and beyond. I guess you forgot that, huh? Apparently it was cool to borrow billions when it was for no-bid defense CONtractors. Sorry, cons but you can't reward Bush for spending and then bitch like a bunch of howler monkeys when the Democrats spend. Get serious. You don't even have anything to show for your hero Bush's spending except a string of spectacular failures. At least Democrats are borrowing to directly help the American taxpayer. ;-P-
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BB6410 months, 3 weeks ago
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We have spend a great deal of money in Iraq. But looking at the larger picture, how much did we spend leading up to the invasion? How much did our attempts to ignore terror cost us? I mean outside of 9-11. USS Cole, African Embassies, and the like. Then you take into account nations like China, Russia and their smaller satellites like Libya, Syria and North Korea. By our actions in Iraq and Afghanistan, it certainly made clear you would be punished if you tried to mess with the USA. Again, I work in international business. The leaders of many nations that you claim hate the USA, liked President Bush. German and French leaders are great examples. Their communist or socialist movements are anti-American and will raise thousands for protests making it look like both nations hate us. The folks in power do no. The one fear many of my international contacts are concerned about is the new trade war being suggested by Obama's people. If you want a tariff war, that will plunge us into a global depression. Not to attack the President, but US will not win this one with the current leadership in Washington. He clearly is not in the driver's seat with the DNC.
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Endoscopy10 months, 3 weeks ago
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More liberal garbage from Spadecaller. All people who have a different opinion of how things should be done are corrupt and evil lying about everything. That tune is getting old. Talk about liars we have a president who has lied about two thing ans is a hypocrite on another one.
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Bipartisanship - The stimulus package in the House the Republicans were locked out of any involvement except an up or down vote on the bill. Obama lied.
Stimulus package - the House version at $825 billion will only have 15% spent the first year. Most of the package is programs that Bush refused to be passed. Obama lied that we need this package immediately.
Daschel - Obama backed and pushed for Daschle until Daschle quit. Then Obama goes on talk shows and says that he made a mistake. That should have been said after the information came out about his taxes and Daschle removed. Instead he said it after Daschle removed himself. Hypocrite.
This is fun. After all the Bush lied now Obama does it for public view.
OBAMA LIED.
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cushi10 months, 4 weeks ago
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I do agree with you in principle! However, the realist in me accepts that it is not possible to be perfect in an imperfect environment! Other factors come to bear and thwart, if not altogether prevent it. That does not absolve one from trying, however, and from coming as close to the ideal as humanly possible. I think Obama is sincerely trying, and there are many,many forces of enmity working against him. What he needs is backup with backbone. The dems need to rally round and let him know they will back him 100%! No man is an island.
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not2needy10 months, 4 weeks ago
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Great essay SC.
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President Obama is never going to get the support of Mitch McConnell and his ilk, so the president just needs to do what he knows is right, and what Americans elected him to do. He is never going to be able to please these people, he needs to get over it and move on, post haste!-
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beavith110 months, 4 weeks ago
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i dunno. McConnell says the right things. its not like he's leading the republicans to a sit down, they've pretty much said to 'hold on a minute. some of this stuff doesn't make sense.'
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that's hardly obstructionism.
when Obama and his congressional leadership want someting, they just roll over them anyway.
where's the problem? could it be that you don't want to hear any dissent? that if you're not one of us you're against us?
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mesodude10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"I'd much rather see some dissent and discussion regardless of party affliation than just a rubber stamp for Reid/Pelosi."
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--Then I guess it's a good thing no one is advocating a rubber stamp, huh? Or maybe you have seen evidence otherwise? The only obstinacy I've seen has been on the side of the GOP (who consistently vote in lockstep).-
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GehlLady10 months, 4 weeks ago
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"could it be that you don't want to hear any dissent? "
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Obama campaigned to be President to ALL of us, to spend time talking to those that disagree with him is just what he said he would do. As you say, he knows he can, and he will get what he wants with the current Congress as long as he can hold Reid/Pelosi in check.
I'd much rather see some dissent and discussion regardless of party affliation than just a rubber stamp for Reid/Pelosi.-
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mesodude10 months, 3 weeks ago
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This tells us how often individual members voted with the majority. It doesn't tell us how often each party voted unanimously on bills or (more importantly) how often they voted against the wishes of the American public. Also, unanimous votes are more likely when a party is in control. What would be useful to see is how often Republicans voted in lockstep in support of Bush vs how often Democrats vote in lockstep for Obama.
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GehlLady10 months, 3 weeks ago
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No one? Read some of the posts at the beginning of this thread. Perhaps you missed them? Oh, wait a minute, some of those were yours!
If Obama is to stay true to his campaign pledges, he doesn't get to just blow off anyone that doesn't agree with him without discussion, without compromise. You and I are just citizens with a keyboard, we can say whatever. He promised the world change, and unification. You don't get that by playing tit for tat," Bush did it so now we can too" BS games.-
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mesodude10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"If Obama is to stay true to his campaign pledges, he doesn't get to just blow off anyone that doesn't agree with him without discussion, without compromise."
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--This is pure nonsense. On what are you basing a claim that Obama is being inflexible or unwilling to compromise?-
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GehlLady10 months, 3 weeks ago
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I'm not, I'm saying he said he would, so some of the posters that are impatient, that say things like the quotes below may have to find patience, and understand he is trying to do what he thinks is right.
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"never going to be able to please these people, he needs to get over it and move on, post haste!"
" He is bending over too much. He has invited everyone to be represented; now the hell with those that only want to obstruct whatever he tries."
"desire to open his administration to both parties and to be the President of all the people are wonderful sentiments; but they must remain secondary "
Whether I agree with his policies or not, I will think much better of him if he continues to include all of us.
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mesodude10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"i dunno. McConnell says the right things. its not like he's leading the republicans to a sit down, they've pretty much said to 'hold on a minute. some of this stuff doesn't make sense.'"
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--It's obstructionism when you give Bush a blank check for 8 years and reward him for the very things you're now crying, voting against, and condemning Obama and the Democrats for. That should be fairly easy for you to grasp, I think.
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icono110 months, 4 weeks ago
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I'm not a big 0Bama fan but in this case n2n I can agree with you. You are right in that he will never be able to please all the people and he needs to get over it and move on.
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I think 0Bama's big problem is his narcissistic attitude about how he thinks the world should view him and that is as an 'all encompassing and compassionate do right kind of guy'. Once he grows a 'pair' and slams down with it is 'my way or the highway' then things will start getting done.
If he keeps trying to 'kill them with kindness' while playing the 'two ends against the middle rope-a-dope politics' he is into now he will always be caught betwixt and between and the next 4 years will be a real political quagmire of 'change that never happened'.-
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cushi10 months, 4 weeks ago
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Every great leader has an ego, and I don't consider Obama narcissistic because he has one. He is a realist, first and foremost, and he knows very well that he doesn't really "walk on water." I think it is important to him to keep his word, or at least, make every attempt to, and his pledge to work with everybody is as important to him as any of his other promises. Still, I believe the realist in him will take hold and he will leave the stiff necked folks in the dust if they continue to drag their feet and drag his efforts down.
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nonparted10 months, 3 weeks ago
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u know icono1 ur second paragraph u are like most people on this site HYPOCRITS
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first u slam president Bush about how did u put it 'my way or the highway' attitude but its ok if president Obama does it
people with this kind of thinking are pathetic and u wonder why America is in such turmoil
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buckncindykill10 months, 4 weeks ago
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All this (which is in their "stimulus" bill), according to Democrats, constitutes economic stimulus. If it eliminates all this pork, then he needs to court not just the GOP, but the American people:
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* $350 million to develop and maintain a "broadband inventory map" at the Department of Commerce
* $1.375 billion for "Rural Water and Waste Disposal"
* $1 billion for the 2010 Census
* $150 million for the Office of the Federal Detention Trustee
* $50 million in aid to combat Internet Crimes Against Children
* $1.4 billion for water projects for Indian tribes
* $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas
* $2.1 billion on energy efficiency in government buildings
* $600 million to buy high fuel economy vehicles for the federal government
* $240 million for "Alteration of Bridges"
* $55 million for Historic Preservation in Park System
* $150 million for facilities at the Smithsonian
* $100 million in Aging nutrition services
* $400 million for screening and prevention of STD's, including HIV
* $1.5 billion for "Homelessness Prevention Fund"
Keeping all of these pork barrel projects in mind .. and by the way, that doesn't even scratch the surface of what is actually in this bill .. Obama says that he would be willing to scale back some of his spending plans in order to win Republican support. He said that he would remove any proposals which were not directly aimed at job creation.
OK ... let's parse that a second. Job creation? Most of Obama's stimulus plan is "work" creation, not job creation. These temporary construction and infrastructure projects don't create jobs, they create work. When you're finished sprucing up those government offices at the Department of Agriculture that work disappears. Ditto for landscaping around the National Mall. Also - where Obama's spending plan does create jobs they're generally government jobs, not private sector jobs.
Just a few weeks ago there was a hearing with the chairman of the joint committee on taxation. He was there to testify on behalf of the economic stimulus package. And when he was asked how many jobs this plan is expected to create, the guy didn't have an answer. Amazing.
How do you modify the stimulus plan? Start with each of the projects above. Then move on to every project that focuses on government work instead of private sector jobs. How do you do that? Pretty easy, actually. You put more money into the hands of the private sector - businesses large to small - to create jobs. The way to do that is through tax cuts. Not phony welfare checks you call tax cuts, but actual tax cuts. Right now the corporate tax rate in the U.S. is the second highest in the industrialized world. Do you think that is how to work toward business and job growth? If you do, you're a Democrat.-
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DenCuddy10 months, 3 weeks ago
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* $350 million to develop and maintain a "broadband inventory map" at the Department of Commerce (Infrastructure and jobs)
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* $1.375 billion for "Rural Water and Waste Disposal" (infrastructure and jobs)
* $1 billion for the 2010 Census (jobs)
* $150 million for the Office of the Federal Detention Trustee ( I don't know enough to comment)
* $50 million in aid to combat Internet Crimes Against Children ( and this is bad how?)
* $1.4 billion for water projects for Indian tribes (Infrastructure and jobs)
* $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas (Infrastructure and jobs)
* $2.1 billion on energy efficiency in government buildings (Infrastructure, jobs and energy independence)
* $600 million to buy high fuel economy vehicles for the federal government (energy independence and lower tax burdens in the future)
* $240 million for "Alteration of Bridges" (Infrastructure and jobs)
* $55 million for Historic Preservation in Park System (don't know enough to comment)
* $150 million for facilities at the Smithsonian (jobs and our heritage)
* $100 million in Aging nutrition services ( bad how?)
* $400 million for screening and prevention of STD's, including HIV (Lowere future healthcare costs)
* $1.5 billion for "Homelessness Prevention Fund" (foreclosure protection and lower government costs down the road)
Your "pork looks to be fairly straightforward job creation vehicles across the board, except where they will decrease costs of government later or protect americans.
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Spadecaller10 months, 4 weeks ago
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Most of us are nauseated with the GOP's disingenuous call for putting more money in the hands of the rich. Trickle down economics and tax cuts for the wealthy have exploited middle class Americans enough without improving anyone except those on the direct receiving line. We just finished 8 years of Corporate welfare and tax breaks for the richest in our country and look how well it has worked. WE just gave billions to bailout these same pigs who then turned around and used the money to pad their own pockets again.
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This same nonsense of putting more money into the hands of the rich was promoted during Reagan's term and then King George's regime, which led our nation to two stock market crashes and now to the greatest separation between rich and poor that our nation has ever known.
Amazing is right. Just try selling that crap to Americans again and the GOP will dry up and die once and for all. When the corporate pigs are grunting about pork, they fail to recognize that under their years of "regulation" deficit spending has been far greater than the Clinton years, which left the nation with a surplus. The truth is obvious and so is the bs. -
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beavith110 months, 4 weeks ago
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my god. i didn't know it was possible to be articulate and ignorant at the same time.
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spade. you of all people.
the election is over. using the tripe that was considered election rhetoric is beneath you.
class warfare beggars us all.
while it may make you feel better to be able to point a finger, its not a solution. we all played the game. when house prices went up and up, no one said 'i've made too much money' and got out. now we pay for our greed with this correction.
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hyperbola10 months, 4 weeks ago
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Well beavith, I see that you still haven't understood the reasons for the financial collapse. Mortgages are a small problem. Fraudulent ponzi schemes run without regulation by "financiers" whom the government allowed to run wild under the influence of "free market" rhetoric are the real problem. Take some time off and begin to educate yourself.
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What Cooked the World's Economy?
... Credit derivatives also figure heavily in the plot. Apologists say that these became so complicated that even Wall Street couldn't understand them and that they created "an unacceptable level of risk." Then these blowhards tell us that the bailout will pump hundreds of billions of dollars into the credit arteries and save the patient, which is the world's financial system. It will take time—maybe a year or so—but if everyone hangs in there, we'll be all right. No structural damage has been done, and all's well that ends well.
Sorry, but that's drivel. In fact, what we are living through is the worst financial scandal in history. It dwarfs 1929, Ponzi's scheme, Teapot Dome, the South Sea Bubble, tulip bulbs, you name it. Bernie Madoff? He's peanuts.
Credit derivatives—those securities that few have ever seen—are one reason why this crisis is so different from 1929.
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beavith110 months, 3 weeks ago
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i've been saying that for months.
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CDO and CDS liability is measured in the $40-60T range. the US GDP runs about $13T.
forget the banks. we're broke.
spending this whopping $1-2T amounts to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
its good to see that you've been keeping up with current events...
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Tango5710 months, 4 weeks ago
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Considering the depth of economic woes along with every possible thing that could go wrong; did, Obama is doing an amazing job. He is exactly what we needed.
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I also scrutinize the economic plan on the table. I would like to see the 600 M for government cars withdrawn. They can use their own cars and get .30 mile.-
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Spadecaller10 months, 3 weeks ago
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This will help families struck by the recession and will help pave the way for more the creation of more new jobs.
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GehlLady10 months, 4 weeks ago
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There is far too much in this bill to be rushed through in an emergency situation. As far as the republicans, they are joined by some democrats, aren't they? Isn't debating the merits and disadvantages of these bills what they get paid for?
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I'd much rather see a much smaller bill that addresses the immediate job creation measures that can be implemented within the next 12-18 months. Once that's done, they will have time to craft a comprehensive plan.-
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cushi10 months, 3 weeks ago
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Critical condition!! That is key to moving legislation quickly and not spinning your wheels while Rome burns, so to speak! There is nothing outrageously out of line in the bill (beyond those items added to appease the petulant pugnicons, and Obama has already told the dems to take the crap back out of it). Common sense dictates that you don't leave a critical patient in limbo while you argue ad finitum the merits of whether or not to do something and how!
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The clock is ticking and the explosion is only seconds away now. Pass the damn package! It's later than some people seem to think (or perhaps, to care about). -
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cushi10 months, 3 weeks ago
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Except Paulson was selling the kool aid for Bush, and what I am saying is factual, well publicized and well documented in the statistics of foreclosures, falling stocks, rapidly rising unemployment and health care costs, increased food prices and collapsing businesses and bankruptcies. You can compare truth to a lie if it makes you feel better, but it does nothing to alter the facts and the facts speak for themselves.
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GehlLady10 months, 3 weeks ago
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It really doesn't matter who's spooning the kool aid, there is no logical reason for spending programs that won't even be implemented, the money spent, over a year from now. It simply isn't logical to hold up what we need done right now to get all the bill done. They are cutting off their noses to spite OUR faces.
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My point has nothing to do with truth/lie, republican/democrat. You can bend over as far as you like because they want what they want, when they want it. I'm tired of it, myself.
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mesodude10 months, 3 weeks ago
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I envy you. It sounds like you don't know anyone who doesn't have the luxury of waiting around for months until several hundred people can agree on every detail of a "perfect" bill (which anyone with a brain knows is not going to happen because it's impossible to please everyone all the time). We don't have *time* for this horsecrap obstructionism.
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mesodude10 months, 3 weeks ago
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You're thinking of the Wicked Witch of the West (hey, it's a slow day at the office). The Wicked Witch of the East got smoked when Dorothy's house landed on her. The rest of what you said--about the GOP melting down into a puddle of slime was spot on, though. ;-P
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GehlLady10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"I envy you. It sounds like you don't know anyone who doesn't have the luxury of waiting around for months"
Huh? Yes, I do know someone that doesn't have the luxury of waiting, ME!
"knows is not going to happen"
So why not scale the bill back so we can get something done now, argue about the rest that won't even be spent for 2 years, later?-
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mesodude10 months, 3 weeks ago
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"So why not scale the bill back so we can get something done now, argue about the rest that won't even be spent for 2 years, later?"
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--I think you're actually serious... Republicans are voting in lockstep against anything and everything as well as spreading misinformation and lies about the bill and Democrats should bend and do things their way now exactly *why*?
"Huh? Yes, I do know someone that doesn't have the luxury of waiting, ME!"
--Really? Maybe you should tell Republicans to remember who won, remember how they gave Bush a blank check, and stop lying about and harping on condoms and other stuff that's no longer in the bill (and that was only a tiny fraction of one aspect of the bill in the first place).-
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GehlLady10 months, 3 weeks ago
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They wouldn't listen to me, anyway, I'm not republican, I'm independent. It isn't just republicans, it's democrats, too, that oppose the scope of this bill. Some of the programs look promising, I may not oppose them all, as you point out, the disinformation of what's in, what's not, makes it hard to comprehend. I don't pretend to be an economics expert, so I'm not sure WHAT would work, I just want to see something happen, now. Breaking it down now into the immediate, critical components that will work this year, and phasing in the rest later won't hurt anything.
Didn't you learn the lesson we were taught, the hard way, when Paulson shoved the first $700 + Billion down our throats? I don't care if it's an R or a D that screws this country with fear tactics, I don't like it.
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Commodore110 months, 3 weeks ago
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Corruption U say? Are there any liberal politicians out there who pay their taxes or who are trying to sell a senate seat? Are there any Republican governors out there who have been impeached? Who is it again that is trying to pass a stimulus bill that's laden w/all sorts of pork and unnecessary spending? If U said liberals then U gave the right answer.
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calitennflo10 months, 4 weeks ago
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Since 1791, it has been the standard that government operate upon wholesome grounds; stimulus for a good and virtuous environment increasing morals. The provisions for such are protective clauses, placed in the constitution as amendments, that continually amend the constitution to correct, improve and revise government.
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The definition of a Democracy, grants the powers of government are vested in all the people...or the authority to carry out the processes or the immunities and priveleges associated with rights (especially certain or inaliable rights) are with the people.
However...today...lawenforcement, the courts, use of the military within the borders, removal of protections exampled by the loss of consent with a government spying on every thing we do or accomplish, and the missdirection of congress as they focus on the wealthy, companies and corpoations when the ways and means of it's people should be the most impoetant thing.
Government is actually in a destructive mode, and uses money to justify anything....when no-one will ever govern anything using money...not even money. -
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Spadecaller10 months, 3 weeks ago
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This will help families struck by the recession:
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