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    jovial11 months ago

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    The "Penguin" from Batman is back! He's like herpes, he keeps coming back.

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      StevieGee11 months ago

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      The difference is that Obama seems willing to listen to everyone. Bush wouldn't listen at all. Cheney is out of line criticizing a sitting President. This undermining of a new President by a former administration is unprecedented.

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        4thchance11 months ago

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        "This undermining of a new President by a former administration is unprecedented."

        No kidding, the democrats would never try to undermine a Republican administration. They'd never do anything like that. They never have and never will, It's just plain wrong isn't?

        I can hardly beleive that the Republicans would be critical of the new democrat administration. What the hell are they thinking, it's simply crazy...

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          StevieGee11 months ago

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          It's good to find common ground. I'm not talking about Republicans I'm talking about a Vice President. He WAS the administration. When we have a change of power the out going admin should and does give the incoming admin their support. This has always happened throughout our history and is essential to the smooth operation of our democracy. This is the USA not Zimbabwe.

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        beavith111 months ago

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        good point, b-hap.

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          4thchance11 months ago

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          Sorry man, it doesn't work that way.
          This type of thing is NOT a two way street. We are not allowed to blame the Democrats for any wrong doing. Anything and everything that goes wrong under Obama's watch is clearly the fault of Bush. You may as well just get use to that and accept it. I understand that it's sick and wrong, but it is what it is.

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            crespi11 months ago

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            You CAN blame the Democrats for what they do wrong.

            As long as you accept what Bush/Cheney did WRONG

            THAT'S the part ultra-conservatives can't handle.

            Every Democrat agreed that Blagojevich was in the wrong (except Blago, and that made him a psycho in the eyes of the public.)

            But it is just like the House vote.

            NO Republican will bend an inch on admitting their own malfeasance.

            Many countries that are our allies want to try Bush and company for their criminal behavior, if we don't. Should we attack our allies now to cover for him?

            It was stated by every analyst that wasn't a Neoconservative pundit or stooge before Bush was out of office that the proplems he created would take years to fix.

            Cheney is trying to UNDERMINE America's recovery for his own twisted purposes.

            ACCEPT SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DISASTERS YOU HAVE WROUGHT.

            Denial is getting you nowhere, haven't you noticed?

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            djn3nunez311 months ago

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            Before you start blaming the new administration better look into the reasons we might be attacked again.

            If somebody from Iraq goes postal in a suicide attack here becuase an innocent family member was blown away during the invasion or occupation, who's fault is that going to be?

            Or what if a family member of somebody who was rendered to another country and tortured or held at Gitmo and tortured goes postal, who's fault will that be.

            Or, because the resources were pull from the fight in Afghanistan/Pakistan to Iraq and Al Queda regenerates itself and launched another attack, who's fault will that be?

            Obama's ?

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              4thchance11 months ago

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              Well, 9/11 must be Clintons fault then, right? Clinton was in office for 8 years before 9/11 happened. The attacks took years to prepare, it was all prepared under the watch of Clinton. So, obviously Clinton did something to tick off the terrorists that led them to attack us on 9/11. Or is your BLAME a one way street with you?

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                djn3nunez311 months ago

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                In Congress, Clinton was thwarted by the reactionary conservative majority in virtually every attempt he made to pass legislation that would attack al-Qaeda and terrorism. His 1996 omnibus terror bill, which included many of the anti-terror measures we now take for granted after September 11, was withered almost to the point of uselessness by attacks from the right; Senators Jesse Helms and Trent Lott were openly dismissive of the threats Clinton spoke of.

                Clinton, 9/11 and the Facts

                http://www.truthout.org/article/clinton-911-and-fa...

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                  ADAGUY11 months ago

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                  "obviously Clinton did something to tick off the terrorists that led them to attack us on 9/11"

                  Since you don't know, I'll inform you. The reason that Bil Laden really decided to go after us, (keep in mind that he hated us anyway) the thing that really put this icing on the cake, the one straw that really broke the camels back was when Saudi Arabia asked us to defend them from the likelihood of an attack by Saddam Hussein. (this was during the 1st Bush administration.)
                  We agreed to help them. Then Bin Laden called for a meeting with the senior officials in Saudi Arabia, and asked them to "keep the US out of Muslim business." It was his wish that they would let him take on Saddam Hussein. But they told Bin Laden he was no match for Saddam. Dessert Storm followed a year or so later. Bin Laden has hated our guts ever since. Now, who do you blame for that?

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