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cowboygrandpa10 months, 1 week ago
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Ya know I'm sick of this kind of crap.
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Ya wonder why we are in such deep trouble ????
Take a look at what is running our companies. Crooks and liars as well as con men and thieves.
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Goppy10 months, 1 week ago
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And yet ... what is The Modern Republican take?
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As phrased so eloquently by Sarah Palin during the campaign ...
The Federal Government just needs to ... 'Get Out Of The Way of Business'.
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But my new understanding of The Modern Republican Party has led me to understand their solution for this issue .... TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY ... FOR TO TRICKLE DOWN TO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
(I've had the epiphany that this is their mantra for every problem or issue.)
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Hhussk10 months, 1 week ago
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"And let me say this to all of the chattering class that so much focuses on those little, tiny - yes - porky amendments: the American people really don't care."
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~Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), February 11, 2009, On Senate Floor
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Goppy10 months, 1 week ago
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Your words are empty, Hhussk.
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You never complained when the Republicans controlled ALL branches of the Federal Government for 6 straight years.
For 6 straight years, you and my fellow Conservatives never complained about the 'unprecedented pork-fest'.
For 6 straight years, you and my fellow Conservatives never complained about the 'pay-to-play' schemes.
For 6 straight years, you and my fellow Conservatives never complained about the burgeoning size of Government (THIRTY PERCENT INCREASE) that Bush & co presided over.
The point is, Hhussk, The Modern Republican has given NO thought to ANY solution .... other than TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY.
This single solution blinds them to every other form of behavior.
They can spend more in 8 years than all Congresses before them ... COMBINED ... and they don't worry because they believe that TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY will solve any outflow from spending.
They can start wars and not fund them because they believe that ... TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY will solve any bankruptcy issues.
They can ignore their duty as Regulators because they believe that ... if their cynicism towards the role of the Federal Government causes problems ... they believe that ... TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY will pick up the pieces.
Ideology is a funny thing ... maybe even an idiotic thing ... when discussing real life issues.
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Goppy10 months, 1 week ago
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Well sure you would ... because you're used to Government giving handouts.
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Military Contractors ... Banks ... Corporations ... these have been the recipients of Government Welfare for quite a while. You've probably grown quite used to it.
But has it helped our nation become stronger? Obviously not.
I believe you'll get over the unpleasantness of it all from a 'personal' standpoint ... and learn to respect the character building aspects of this approach.
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BB6410 months, 1 week ago
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Hand outs? When someone orders a slushy from your counter, you collect the money when you give them the slushy right? I don't get hand outs. If the government or private firm wants to order a plant, I sell them a plant. We pay taxes like most people do. We employ a lot of people and provide a ton of benefits. So I'm not sure how or why you're claiming I've received a handout.
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As to capitalism, yesterday there was a posting quoting Putin warning Bacon about his communist, I mean socialist plan. Former KGB general giving the president of the United States a lesson in capitalism verses socialism. How times have changed.-
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JEBUS0810 months, 1 week ago
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you cant argue the banks didnt get welfare, and as far as the military contractors: getting a no bid contract is pretty much welfare for they end up getting money for goods and services they never end up supplying -
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if you dont like socialism i suggest you take a private copter to your business and stay off of my roads, i would also appreciate it if you would keep your family out of my parks, schools, and libraries - also dont count on the fire or police dept coming to rescue you because they will be busy saving people who appreciate their help
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icono110 months, 1 week ago
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Comrade Guppy as Maggie Thacher said and Putin strongly implied about the trouble with socialism is simply this.... 'it runs into trouble when you run out of everybody else's money'.
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Oh by the way Comrade Guppy ,if you got no money, you get no food and heat, and starvatrion, while being bone cold, builds all kinds of character.
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sinophil4910 months, 1 week ago
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BB - Trickle-down economics, or supply side economics has now proven to be a massive failure and bankrupt as a guiding economic principle.
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Sadly, supply side economics COULD have worked if the Republican party remembered the second half of the principle. That is, the economy can improve if you cut taxes AND SPENDING SIMULTANEOUSLY. Reagan and Bushes all forgot the 2nd half. All Republicans were interested in were cutting taxes and INCREASING spending. This is an absolute recipe for massive deficits and rising debt.
Supply side economics, in the hands of Republicans, also will fail without a concomitant oversight and regulatory control to prevent the economic plunder we are now realizing has been occuring in all corporations. Cutting taxes to the rich, relaxing safety and environmental laws, cutting the budgets of all the regulatory agencies, simply mean that the rich will simply take home all the increased money and NOT pass it down to the employees or hold cost down to the consumer.
THERE HAS BEEN NO TRICKLE DOWN UNDER THE REPUBLICAN RULE.
Last year there was $18 billion given out in corporate executive bonuses. The effective tax burden on the rich proportionately went down. While that on the poor and middle class went up.
Why? Because of the decreased revenues, local governments all had to increase their user fees, license fees, college fees, sales taxes, permit fees, etcf, etc. Programs that helped the poor went under-funded - like the No Child Left Behind program, WIC program, mentally ill programs, etc.
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beavith110 months, 1 week ago
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the top 1% of taxpayers pay 50% of taxes. the top 10% pay 70%. The top 20% pay 80%.
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proportionally, if the poor and middle class went up. samll proportion is still small proportion.
'To summarize, Trickle Down economics is a failure and a fraud.'
and you've been taken in by the lefty libs. everything you say is democratic election rhetoric.
it wasn't trickle down economics that failed. it was a lag in the Gov't figuring out that unregulated growth in a small, new, but extremely lucrative 'investment vehicle' was out of control.
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Georgia5010 months, 1 week ago
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Goop,
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Partisan hacks like yourself notwithstanding, how is corruption in business a partisan issue? Sure...we can nit-pick and take potshots once the party of a corrupt person is known. Cause and effect might be a bit trickier to prove...not that you of all people ever require evidence for you daily rants. -
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rimbaud10 months, 1 week ago
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The Republicans MAY BE right, but they have lost credibility, and their self-righteousness (like McCain's on the Senate floor) just doesn't play well (we cannot suspend our disbelief). Maybe they can frame their cause in different words than those we've been hearing all the way down to where we are, today.
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Hhussk10 months, 1 week ago
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FTA:
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But the problems will worsen exponentially as the economy plunges, and as the Obama administration and Congress spend more than $1 trillion in various bailout and stimulus packages in an effort to forestall foreclosures, corporate bankruptcies and a prolonged economic depression, they said.
It's like you didn't even read the article. Government has been the hallmark of innefficiency and corruption since the beginning of time.'
Just to clarify, You want the same people who created the housing crisis to arrest the companies they forced and promoted into bad practices? ....The blind truly are leading the blind.-
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Hhussk10 months, 1 week ago
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I see you were unable to bring a defense. Read about Ad Hominem.
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Here's the proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN31-nKndg8
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rimbaud10 months, 1 week ago
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When everyone's making money, from mortgage brokers to banks which would be selling the mortgages, relationships become cozy. The brokers are egged on, by borrowers, and by attractive commissions, to exploit any flexibilities in the lenders' requirements for qualification and documentation. How important is it when the value of the property is well above (or expected to get well above) the value of the loan? No one MADE anyone make these bad loans, but with Wall Street buying them and packaging them as investments, it was never clear who would end-up holding the bag: you took your share and passed it on.
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dunkirk10 months, 1 week ago
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Maybe you need to read some as to what caused the housing crisis, Seems the REPUBLICANS went out of their way to make sure nothing interfered with the only thing that pumped up the economy while they were in control so much so they went after states to stop them from putting the brakes on predatory lending. Yeah the politicos caused the housing crisis but the party that backed it and pushed it is out of power now. It is amazing how you reach conclusions from information that does NOT lead you to that conclusion. But that seems to be the pattern of the right lately, state some information and then generate a conclusion way out of left field. ROFLMAO, you guys LOST the last two elections get use to it its a pattern thats going to repeat since most people understand the mess we are going thru was caused by you guys.
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rimbaud10 months, 1 week ago
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Whenever there is BIG money involved (bricks of dollars to Iraq, or billions of dollars to Wall Street), even those who see themselves as trustworthy somehow find it hard to stay on the straight path and start going crooked. The high-fliers who ran Wall Street into the ground do not see themselves as the ones responsible, especially since they made money both on the way up for their investors, and the way down.
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