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  Thinker2210 months, 2 weeks ago

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  >This was no gesture of love, however.
  
  Why don't the Palestinians start delivering 'gestures of love' to Israel for a change?

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    dissent10 months, 2 weeks ago

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    giving up most of the palestinian territories to illegal settlements is not enough?

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      Thinker2210 months, 2 weeks ago

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      >giving up most of the palestinian territories to illegal settlements is not enough?
      
      Well, it depends how you look at it. For starters one may count the number of lies that may fit into an eight-words sentence (are you going to apply for the Guinness record, Dissent?):
      
      1. The land of Palestine WAS NOT "given up" as 80% of it belongs to and Arab state named Jordan.
      
      2. The Arabs DID NOT "give up" the rest as these lands did not belong to them. Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) for at least 600 years prior to WWI and then they were administered by Great Britain.
      
      3. The so-called "Palestinian territories" are NOT "Palestinian" at all. Land can either belong to a state or be privately owned by individuals or organizations. There is no Palestinian state yet and the amount of land privately owned by Arabs in Palestine does not exceed 12%.
      
      4. Israeli settlements (both legal AND illegal) occupy less than 2% of the West Bank and 0% (Zero percent) of Gaza. This is NOT "most of the territories" by any stretch of imagination. ( http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief2-16.htm )
      
      5. Almost all Israeli settlements are LEGAL as their existence did not violate any laws.
      
      So far I've counted FIVE lies in your question containing EIGHT words, Dissent. I do not think it will qualify for the Guinness record. The answer to your question is NO, it's not enough. I was asking about REAL gestures.
      
      Instead of imaginary "give up" of imaginary "Palestinian lands" to imaginary "illegal settlements" I would like to see Palestinian leadership ABLE AND WILLING to negotiate a mutually acceptable peace agreement. I can guarantee that not a single settlement will remain within the borders of the Arab Palestinian state(s) that will be established in accordance with this future peace agrement.

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      Mutainia10 months, 2 weeks ago

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      And shooting those rockets and mortars from populated territory that Israel traded with them in the hopes of achieving peace. SHOOTING those rockets and mortars into Israeli neighborhoods FROM territory, Gaza, Israel traded, hoping that, if Israel fired back and killed "womens and childrens", the Muhammadans could parade them through the streets with the most anguished of looks on their faces to the point where we might forget that Islam is not only an accomplice too "Honor" killings, but, thanks to a passage in the Quran where a youth is killed by traveling companion of Moses for just FEARING the boy might go bad (see Quran 18:73-81), hey, Islam is MORE than just an accomplice. It's NOT a cultural thing to slit your daughter's throat IF she starts showing an interest in non-Islamic activity, it's Quran 18 going into action where the killer OF the youth for "fearing that the boy might go bad", that his parents believe Allah will give them a son who is better than the one who was killed, is not punished for the murder AT all.
      "18:80. "As for the youth, his parents were people of Faith, and we feared that he would grieve them by obstinate rebellion and ingratitude (to Allah and man).
      81. "So we desired that their Lord would give them in exchange (a son) better in purity (of conduct) and closer in affection."

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      dissent10 months, 2 weeks ago

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      you
      take my water
      burn my olive trees
      destroy my house
      take my job
      steal my land
      imprison my father
      kill my mother
      bomb my country
      starve us all
      humiliate us all
      
      BUT
      
      I am to blame: I shot
      
      a rocket back
      
      http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/02/14/i-am-to-...

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  dextrase10 months, 2 weeks ago

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  What unbelievable bastards they are!

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