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pc259 months, 3 weeks ago
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wonderful news considering the White House now admits the stimulus wont work
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White House dampens stimulus expectations
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090215/bs_nm/us_usa_s...
but we had to pass it asap-
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Leemck029 months, 3 weeks ago
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pc25, think about it as the price for having gone to far with Tax Cuts and no emphasis on production or bottom-up building; as some say, the chickens are coming home to roost. Don't be to quick to predict the outcome, the money was only transfered, wait to see if the expenditures balances before you cheer for failure.
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pc259 months, 3 weeks ago
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have you been keeping abreast of what your fearless leader has already said about the Stimulus
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it is not going work.......
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/02/white-ho...
White House Already Admits Stimulus Won't Work... But Thanks For Funding Our Pet Projects, Guys!
check the Feb15th link to the original story................-
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wtagg9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I have trouble understanding why you are upset with someone continuing the uncontrolled spending policies of the previous admin you supported.
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At least this bill is spreading the spending around vs. rewarding one industry sector for failure.
That said, both bailouts are bad. I was against the first one and am against this bill.-
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Leemck029 months, 3 weeks ago
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wtagg, that's consistency, and we all have to respect your position, calling it as you see it. For the other's trying to uphold the right-wing position, sell the opinion of culprits who wrecked the economy and would-be reporting sources, that's worth correcting.
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injest9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Jezzzz your clueless.
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Leemck02
“the money was only transfered, wait to see if the expenditures balances before you cheer for failure”
The money is not being “transferred”, it is being “barrowed”
And what can not be barrowed will be printed.
“having gone to far with Tax Cuts”
What do “Tax Cuts” have to do with the sub prime housing market?-
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Leemck029 months, 3 weeks ago
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injest, I suppose you have all the clues (not to say they are worth anything). Did you have a clue leading up to last minute when "W" and McCain/Palin was saying the economy is fundamentally strong? What were you saying when Sec Treasury Paulson told the nation "we don't have to worry"?
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Your clues aren't much to brag about. Write your representatives and tell them to find something else to lockstep on, the TAX CUT strategy as a cure for the common cold or improving the economy won't make it.-
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injest9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Leemck02
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“McCain/Palin was saying the economy is fundamentally strong”
Jezzzzz lame!
Try using ACTUAL quotes, the FULL quotes, and the correct words!
McCain : "fundamentals of our economy are strong" and the fundamentals are "at great risk."
Did ya notice “fundamentals” not “fundamentally” are you so ignorant you don’t know the difference?
(Hint that’s a rhetorical question, you already have answered it)
McCain noted what he called "tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall Street,''
"And my opponents may disagree, but those fundamentals -- the American worker and their innovation, their entrepreneurship, the small business, those are the fundamentals of America, and I think they're strong," he said in Orlando.
Did ya get that Leemck02?
The fundamentals McCain was talking about are
the American worker.
their innovation
their entrepreneurship
the small business
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Leemck029 months, 2 weeks ago
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Injest, thank you for the correction, so now I know the fundamentals, not fundamentally, the economy is not weak but at risk. Yet the banks are failing and lending is well under capital requirement.
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This "at risk" stuff, is it of collapse, becoming weak or being wonderful? In short, you were better of just saying he (McCain) was wrong than confused. Ignorant as I may be, my lying eyes see all the business failures, job losses and houses going into default. Bottom line, I still think good riddance to "W" and anyone in tune with policy he supported (Tax Cuts for growth) or party members associated with the same.
If you think in any way that McCain/Palin was on the right economic track, God bless America President Obama was elected. I will concede that perhaps your warm and fuzzy feelings about fundamentals vs. fundamentally, or the rest may mean something to you . . . you are entitled.
I got what you said, referring to the list, but that still don't add up to a hill of beans in terms of performance.
-The American Worker, education is losing ground to other nations - not strong. Recoverable.
-Innovation - support and systems bringing them to market, for the last 8 years record breaking lows - Recoverable.
-Entrepreneurship, SBA says 80% will fail in 3 years, and Top-Down has crushed Small and Medium business with off shoring - weak. Recoverable.
-Small businesses, one word - "Walmart". Weak. Recoverable
That's what I think. I would like to hear your thoughts on my views on your list that said little on your position.
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UnusualSuspect9 months, 3 weeks ago
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And if McCain had been elected...you don't think some sort of stimulus plan would have been passed as well, and that it would probably be close to being as much, the same, or more, than what was passed?
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Or if McCain have not created a stimulus package, would he and the rest of the Republicans let the country go down the tubes?
Get real, pc...wake up, and open your eyes...-
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pc259 months, 3 weeks ago
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a different type of stimulus plan one that stimulates the economy not special interests
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200 Top Economists Say "Stimulus" Bill Won't Work
200 top economic minds signed a national ad published in The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal against the trillion dollar spending binge proposed by democrats. The ad, sponsored by the Cato Institute, blasts the massive boondoggle that funds liberal projects under the guise of "stimulating" the economy.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/01/31/200-top-...
I'll take the word of 200 TOP Economists over the lies and rhetoric of Obama, Reid and Pelosi any day.
This is a little more real than your comment-
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injest9 months, 3 weeks ago
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“I'll take the word of 200 TOP Economists over the lies and rhetoric of Obama, Reid and Pelosi any day.”
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OOOMMMGGG
How can you question Pelosi?
Don’t you know were losing 500 million jobs every month!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hMJVXt09E
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quackpot9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Special interests in both cases, pc25, but the special interests would have been different:
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Republican special interests: Give the rich and ultra-rich more money to spend on foreign goods.
Bill that passed special interests: Give the future generations that will have to pay for it a better infrastructure while employing U.S.A. workers. -
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injest9 months, 3 weeks ago
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“And if McCain had been elected...you don't think some sort of stimulus plan would have been passed as well”
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Yes he would have had a “stimulus plan”, It would have been bi-partisan, as that is McCain’s stock n trade.
We would know what it will be spent on. You, I and no one knows what this plan will actually be spent on.
Need proof?
Name 5 of the “Shovel ready” projects?
Where are they?
Who will be doing the work?
How much will each cost?
What exactly will they accomplish?
And the kicker,
ready,
Show us the “Environmental impact studies that MUST be completed AND approved
before a single shovel can be turned. (Approved, meaning it has gotten passed the law suit changes, and won)
Just asking for what Obama promised he would do.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/
· Shine Light on Earmarks and Pork Barrel Spending:
Obama's Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act will shed light on all earmarks by disclosing the name of the legislator who asked for each earmark, along with a written justification, 72 hours before they can be approved by the full Senate.-
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quackpot9 months, 3 weeks ago
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There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of projects throughout the country that can be started as soon as funds are available. Virtually every state, city and town has a pet must-do project that is ready to go as soon as money is available (Those without such a project need a new mayor!!!!).
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