Poles apparently fear loss of potential US missile bases; Czechs do NOT! »
Posted By gamahuche 8 months, 3 weeks ago in Political NewsAP's highly distorted propaganda story claims that Poland and the Czech Republic are opposed to the potential cancellation of the plan for these bases.
The Poles clearly have a different point of view than do the Czechs - whose citizens remains staunchly opposed to the project. Take the AP story with a BIG handful of salt and most likely as planted propaganda.
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gamahuche8 months, 3 weeks ago
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AAAARRRRGGGH!
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I just wrote an immnesely long and detailed introduction to this story explaining the very different histories of the Czech Lands and Poland over the last 4 centuries and why this issue has been playing to very different audience response here and in Poland and ultimately why the AP story is a piece of propaganda in as much as it attempts to conflate the very differing opinions in the two countries.
I idiotically forgot to save what I had written it before I failed to post it and I can't rewrite it now - it will have to wait for another day and another cue..
For now I can only briefly elaborate that 1] the Czech Republic is the second most pagan country in Europe - after Lithuania - while Poland is the most devoutly Catholic one. In as far as Czechs DO participate in organised religion, Protestants dominate over Catholics 2] The Czech and Polish histories have been extremely different and although, for example they were both ruled by the Nazis during the 2nd World War, Poland suffered massive destruction of many of its cities, whereas the physical damage to the Czech lands was relatively minor. The Poland of today is far larger than the Czech Republic and differs in two other important respects - first that it does have a sea-coast, which we do NOT and never have had, despite Shakespeare's reference to "the seacoasts of Bohemia". Though the Czech lands were dominated by foreign rulers for hundreds of years, despite everything, the culture and the continuity survived. -
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gamahuche8 months, 3 weeks ago
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Now here are some realistic figures regarding public opinion here:
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http://praguemonitor.com/2009/02/18/czechs-leave-b...
This article was posted TODAY and it represents an action by inhabitants of the immediate are around the proposed radar installation.However it also states a NATIONWIDE figure of opposition which has hardly altered since this idea was first mooted.
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The participants in the journey include teenagers as well as people in their 70s and mayors of 30 municipalities situated in the Brdy area, some 90km southwest of Prague, where the radar is to be built.
The main event is to take place in Brussels at 14:00 on Wednesday.
"We will put on white overalls to show that 70 percent of citizens of our republic who do not wish the radar are practically invisible for the Czech government," Tamas said.
He said awareness of the project is very low in the EP. The MEPs whom the radar opponents have met were shocked by the advanced stage of the negotiations with the United States and the extent of disagreement among Czech citizens, Tamas said.
About two thirds of Czechs reject the radar base according to public opinion polls.-
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
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I am really tired of the propaganda fed to we americans by our media. It is disgusting that AP is run by the same corporations that profit from our military-industrial complex and have a big stake in feeding us such state propaganda. Personally I much prefer to read in the european press (well, I can handle english, german, spanish, italian and if really interested a bit of french) what they think - no comparison to what is "filtered" to americans by our media.
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A qeustion for you. Much of "western" europe seems to think that "eastern" europe fell much more strongly under the influence of the "neocons" than the longstanding members of the EU and needs to escape from that. Think so?
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gamahuche8 months, 3 weeks ago
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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/235/story/537987....
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This article is very interesting for 2 reasons:
1. that it makes clear that the Obama viewpoint is radically different than the Bush approach and that there IS some chance of doing businmess with Russia and
2. That its written by a young and well-connected young intern at Radio free Europe and that obviously his work is being checked for "political correctness" - in the real meaning of that term.-
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hyperbola8 months, 3 weeks ago
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Well, given the increasing fragility of the supply lines to Afghanistan, the Obama administration apparently is going to need Russia's help to be able to supply our troops in Afghanistan. If the US really piiissses off both Pakistan and Iran, we could end up with two armies cut off.
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BB648 months, 3 weeks ago
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These are anti-missile weapons and wouldn't be able to stop Soviet missiles. The weapons would be able to stop lets say an Iranian attack though. This was the same missile system Bush offered to share with the Russians. I'm still confused at why they're against this. Unless these missiles can do more or the Russians are looking to expand the Empire again. Again, this was a missile system we offered to work with the Russians, together.
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