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Posted By ybdogsct 9 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsProtesters shouting, "Yes we can, shut it down" picketed outside the News Corp. building in midtown Thursday, a day after the company's New York Post newspaper ran a cartoon that they said depicted President Barack Obama as a chimpanzee shot and killed by police officers.
Led by the Rev. Al Sharpton, protesters marched in a loop inside police barricades on 6th Avenue, between 46th and 47th Street, and called for a boycott of the New York Post.
"Go to your newsstand and say, 'Do not sell it in our community,' " Sharpton said to protesters that police estimated to be 500.
One protester was Ashley Ames, 25, who is white. She said the Post is trying to set a racist agenda at a time when the country is trying to move beyond racial conflict. "They take us back," Ames said.
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Will13139 months, 3 weeks ago
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b-happy9 months, 2 weeks ago
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HAHAHA... I guess it's ok for people to print postcards of Bush as a Chimpanzee but because it's Obama it's racist....
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How can you call yourselves progressives when your so a$$ backwards?
I don't know how many times I saw cartoons of Bush portrayed as a monkey or being killed. Time Magazine, Newsweek, etc.. Not one of you Libs. even uttered a wrod about our president being depicted that way and even laughed at it. Your sorry human beings.
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jovial9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Here's some more funnies from this Sean Delonas character. Tell me if you guys think he's funny.
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http://gawker.com/5155855/ten-masterpieces-from-se...-
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Tangent0019 months, 3 weeks ago
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All cartoonists have their 'off' days when they have to...um...rely on...um..resort to... um...Screw it.
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I understand the humor had to do with the recent violent chimpanzee episode and that the 'written by a monkey' had more to do with stupidity than it had to do with Obama's race. But for crying out loud! Does this man have no sense of history? I harbour an appreciation for the naivete it took to draw this. Yet I abhor the lack of editorial restraint that allowed it to be published.
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cowboygrandpa9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Will1313:
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What strikes me about it is.
If they had shown the chimp being shot,with a caption of something like "that will teach the animals not to mess with us."
Then yeah, I could see where they were speaking about the chimp attacking the person.
But the reference to the stimulus bill ??????? How STUPID are they ?????
Pure and simple gutter bigotry!!!! From pure and simple gutter bigots !!!!!
As far as apologizing to the people, hmmmmmph !!!! They should apologize to the president and his family.
Class less, ignorant, misguided idiots will say it is OK to do this, because people portrayed Bush as a chimp.
How many times did it portray Bush as being shot dead by policemen?????
Wake up neocon idiots !!!!!!!! You want a war you can't and won't win ?????
No matter who the person is being potrayed, showing them shot dead by the police is a sign of a Fascist/Nazi Mentality !!
Thank you ybdogsct.
Thank you for bringing this out and showing the ones on propeller who are the type to like this crap. Also for showing the ones who hate this bull crap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-
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Will13139 months, 3 weeks ago
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WOOOOOOAAAAH....
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It seems that I may have left the impression. .. that I thought the Chimp.. cartoon was worthy of a smile..or chuckle...
THE CHIMP CARTOON WAS BIGOTED.. HATEFUL.. AND DESPICABLE.......
some of the ones in Jovial's link.. did make me smile..
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Hhussk9 months, 3 weeks ago
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THE CHIMP CARTOON WAS BIGOTED.. HATEFUL.. AND DESPICABLE.......
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they are too busy having homosexual relationships be tax cheats also.. being a closeted gay takes up all their time..
~Will1313, "Sarah Palin's Lies and Half Truths about Drilling in ANWR" thread
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Will13139 months, 3 weeks ago
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wow... a gotcha .. moment.. I so honored that you think enough of my comments.. to waste enough of your precious time.. to archive and save them.. I feels so honored...
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I made the statement.. and I stand by it...
I also made the other statement and stand by it...
what do YOU stand for.. NOTHING APPARENTLY.. absolutely NOTHING....
I also called Sarah Palin a WH*RE.. which you failed to grasp the meaning of.. being you ignorant partisan self... and feel free to post any of the PM that you ask for in wanting to get to know me.. ..
and yes republican scandals seem to be of a homosexual nature.. because. at least liberals can be try to be honest and realize their just normal..but NEO-CONSERVATIVES.. all they have is preaching about gays.. and their affairs would tend to prove them to be HYPOCRITS..
now you may also fell free to belittle my posting style....
you may also feel free to go F*** yourself...
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icono19 months, 3 weeks ago
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hummmm..........
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It is assumed by certain elements of the population that the monkey is a metaphorical representation of the Presidentnot only in racist terms yet, for some people, in political terms only.
However some people take it at stated 'face value' as a slam against the US Congress.
It is hard to tell what the intent of the author was when he penned this; but it sure could be seen as a cartoonist's 'double entendre'(ambiguity of meaning arising from language and yes, art is a language, that lends itself to more than one interpretation).-
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Beeboppin719 months, 3 weeks ago
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I am speechless. To show a cartoon of the police shooting the President sends a very bad message to a certain segment of our population.
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This political cartoon shows the poor judgment of the New York Post. They owe the Nation an apology.-
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Lincoln859 months, 3 weeks ago
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Purely a jab against congress as the group that wrote a bill that a monkey could write. The Obama thing is ridiculous. Why is it that the liberals are constantly searching for racisim where it is not. Bush was called a monkey for at least 7 years of his presidency, Supreme Justice Thomas has been pictured as a lawn jockey, Secretary of State Rice has been called a skeeza by New Jersey's poet loriat, where was the race pimp Sharpton when that was going on. Where was he and the rest of you liberals when they attacked Michael Steele as an uncle tom?
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What a ridiculous situation we are in. It is like the pot calling the kettle black. And I am sure race pimps can find something racists in that because the word "black" was used. -
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Endoscopy9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Are you saying that the chimp in that cartoon looks like Obama? It sure doesn't to me.
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Are you saying that Obama wrote that non stimulus package? I thought Pelosie and the Democrat caucus wrote it.
This is a liberal ranting about nothing. It was OK when liberal cartoonists used chimps and drew Bus's face on them. That was hilarious but this does not even come close and liberals go overboard ranting and using that excuse to yell racism.-
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Coatl9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I also can see the outrage, but if I were Obama (or this cartoon were about showing me as a chimp), I wouldn't be offended( chimps, after all are our cousins ), I would have said something like "Hey I hope that was supposed to be a bonobo and not a chimp". But giving it a second thought, I'm from another culture, perhaps that's what makes the difference.
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cushi8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Sorry Tangent, but it most certainly does not!! The cartoonist and the NYP are well aware of the historical significance of portraying a Black man as a chimpanzee. It is not so subtle reinforcement of a negative stereotype of an African American citizen; moreover, not just ANY African American citizen, but the President of the United States!! It is offensive and insulting, and everyone involved in producing and/or approving it needs to be reproofed.
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frctm59 months, 3 weeks ago
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There is no equivalence there since chimpanzees and monkeys were often used to derogate blacks in the context of racist propaganda but portraying Bush as a monkey does not carry racist connotations since there is no historical precedent for vilifying whites by comparing them to monkeys . The editors of the new paper should have known this was in poor taste. While it isn't explicitly saying that the dead chimp is Obama, its easy to infer this and in fact it is hard not to believe that that is what is insinuated.
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Obama did not write the stimulus bill. No president write his own bills. That is the job of lawyers and clerks. However, they are often associated with legislation that they asked for and Obama is the most high profile person associated with the stimulus bill.-
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cushi9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I totally agree! Your comment is very similar to one I made on another post about this issue earlier today:
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Perhaps you didn't see them as racist because such negative connotations are rarely if ever applied to white men! We learn to associate certain things with certain groups, and there is no doubt no reason for linking the African American author of the stimulus bill to a 200lb monkey shot down by the police EXCEPT racism running wild.
As for using a monkey to represent Bush or Pelosi, even if it that happened, you can be sure it would not be the same depiction chosen to represent President Obama. A grinning chimp for Bush is hardly the same as a big, menacing, violent chimp with two slugs in his chest put there by police officers, and his tongue hanging out to the side, being equated to President Obama.
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frctm59 months, 3 weeks ago
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Republicans have made veiled appeals to racism for a long time. Bigotry is part of their constituency and this is a dying strategy. It began with Reagan's campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi, making his appeal to state's rights, recalling the Confederacy, and turning the south to the Republican party for the first time since the Civil War and it continued with George Bush senior's Willey Horton ads. Republicans are still the party of the angry white man but demographics are working against them. They must find a way to broaden their appeal or doom themselves to a minor league status. If they think things like this cartoon are trivial, they don't get it. I kind of hope they don't get their act together. As long as they remain clueless about the changing mood and dynamic of this nation, they will drive themselves further into oblivion.
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Dionys9 months, 3 weeks ago
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"This is a liberal ranting about nothing. It was OK when liberal cartoonists used chimps and drew Bus's face on them. That was hilarious but this does not even come close and liberals go overboard ranting and using that excuse to yell racism."
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Last time I checked there isn't a few hundreds years of history of white people being called apes and denigrated in cartoons as apes and half-people.
Bush is about as smart as a chimp, so the comparison's not far off. The only chimp comparison that can be made to Obama is a racist one with a few hundred years of horrific history attached.-
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AnteUp9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Yeah Endo - It all comes back to me now - all those stereotypical
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jokes about Texans who are all hat and no cattle being monkeys - chimps -
whatever...................yeah - what you say makes SO much sense .....OH YEAH.
This is so, so blatantly racist - can watermelon jokes be far off?
Black Republican strategists would find a way to excuse them too -
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mark-stevens9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I am not amazed on how stupid people that can blog get... Bush was elected twice.
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Obama did not write the Stimulus package, Pelosi and friends did. The cartoonist was comparing those idiots to a monkey... those who saw Obama getting shot... I don't know what to say!! -
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Radiofreeeuropa9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Judging from the fact that the editor claims the cartoon was inserted without knowledge or approval. It is "Newscorpse" itself responsible, likely Murdoch himself. Anyone pretending they had no idea of the racial slur implications that would be obviously seen here is either completely delirious, a liar, or simply pretending they don't understand to shield their racism. Even if the cartoonist truly meant to insult congress, don't expect me to believe they were oblivious to the likelihood of it being taken as a racial slur against the president. The wingnut media labeled this the "Obama Recession" 3 months before the man ever stepped into the oval office.
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When editorial cartoons appear in most papers the characters are labeled (An elephant with GOP on it, or a Bear with Russia written on it for instance), This was "overlooked". Look at this man's past cartoons poor as they are, the objects being lampooned (gays 98% of the time) are labeled like political cartoons normally are. There is no doubt in my mind someone wanted the "ambiguity" . Though I believe cartoons should be free to insult if they like, the public has every right to voice the fact that they think they suck as well.
It is rather unlike good political cartoonists to choose a single animal to represent a body of people without a label, it's just not clear enough, we may think of the Senate as a bunch of apes...but as a single ape? The label becomes a necessary device.
No this was meant to be ambiguous on purpose so they could rally bigots, offend Al Sharpton and many other folks, then hide behind the explanation.
HeII it probably sold a lot of papers for them too.
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Progressive9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thanks for the invite, ybdogsct.
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FTA:
"The cartoonist, Sean Delonas, has a long history of drawing cartoons that drew the ire of Sharpton and black elected officials. He did not return phone calls Wednesday."
This is just another reason not to read Rupert Murdoch's New York Post or watch his Fox News.-
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gamahuche9 months, 3 weeks ago
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OF COURSE he's un-American!
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Even if he took on US citizenship, solely because of US laws concerning the ownership of TV stations.
The worst thing about him is that he owns far too much of the world's media and uses solely it solely to advance his own agenda, with zero regard or respect for honesty, morality or integrity.
His pattern has been to buy the scuzziest, lowest commonn denominator but therefore also high-circulation and profitable rags in the countries he has operated in - the Sun and the News of the World in England - and then to craftily aquire high-ranking media - the Times and the Sunday Times in England, WSJ in the US in order to advance his proto-fascist political agenda.
All three of the last named have seriously declined in quality of content and contributors under his ownership.
He ranks very high on my scum-of-the-planet index.
As for this cartoonist - its sufficient to look at a few other samples of his work at the link which jovial provided above, which I repeat here:
http://gawker.com/5155855/ten-masterpieces-from-se...
to see that he his realm of activity is the sewers of human consciousness.
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smithichie9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I do not base my opinions on poll results. Perhaps what your numbers show is that 64% of the people polled are a bit too sensitive, maybe even racist themselves...to assume that a cartoon of a chimp MUST mean it was directed at Obama.
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gamahuche9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Al Sharpton is a figure of low credibility in my book also.
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The fact that he attaches himself like a leech onto "hot" topics does NOT however invalidate the issues concerned.
Unfortunately, wrongly, it then sidetracks the discussion; in these cases iI would advocate - FIGURATIVELY - "shooting the messenger" and focussing on the underlying reality.-
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cushi8 months, 4 weeks ago
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I am going on record as disagreeing with all of you on this one! Rev. Al Sharpton is a very intelligent, outspoken person who's concern is injustice and whose focus is injustice toward African Americans. His voice is necessary in the mainstream because oftentimes, no one else will speak. I am not saying that he is right on any given issue, but he is willing to put himself out there and take whatever criticms are lobbed his way, when many are too cowardly to do likewise. He causes a dialogue which otherwise, might not take place. I do not believe in condemning someone based on a one or two mistakes over a lifetme of being in the trenches. Rev. Sharpton and I may not always see eye to eye, but I respect the man and believe he serves an important role, even if some people are not comfortable with him.
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memestryker9 months, 3 weeks ago
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This is better ignored. Instead, the author is getting all sorts of attention and now name recognition. I don't think any of his cartoons are funny, and I certainly didn't think of Obama when I first saw this one before Sharpton started ranting.
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Tangent0019 months, 3 weeks ago
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I am convinced the authoring of the cartoon was innocent, the publishing of the cartoon showed a lack of sensitivity.
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Knowing the context, I find nothing racist about the cartoon. However, I did not know about the context until I deliberately investigated it. It was poor judgment to publish a cartoon of police shooting a monkey, when 'monkey' is still equated with African-Americans. -
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smithichie9 months, 3 weeks ago
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While I found the cartoon to be stupid, I did not find it to be racist nor did I think it depicted Obama. The cartoon clearly states that someone else will have to be found to write the next stimulus bill. Well, who wrote the first bill? Not Obama, he signed it, he didn't write it.
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, or in this case, a crazed dead chimp is just a crazed dead chimp.-
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memestryker9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Maybe it's time for all of us to take a chill-pill and quit letting stupidity press our buttons. African-Americans, gays, women, and everyone else he satirizes need to just ignore him and then he'll go away. He only does this because people pay money to see it. He hit a home-run with this one.
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smithichie9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Nope, I don't see it. The chimp could have looked like Obama, it doesn't. The cartoon could have said, "someone else will have to SIGN the next stimulus bill...", it doesn't. With either, I might see a case, but even then it wouldn't be "clearly there" due to the story of a crazed chimp being shot, in the headlines all week long. There are people who think a crazed chimp could have written a better bill. Political cartoons use images based on current issues and events, hence the chimp.
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jovial9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I have to go with BB on this one smitty. If this was the only time this cartoonist ever drew insensitive cartoons about minorities I might lean a little to your side, but this guy is malevolent. Check out my link near the top of this page.
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Ciera-Marie9 months, 3 weeks ago
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In this case you're wrong.
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Where I grew up, where BB64 currently lives, African Americans were called porch monkeys. Probably still are in places in the US.
That cartoon clearly is racist and mixed two major events this week into one. Also in poor cartoonist taste.
Mixed the death of Chimpazee by police with the passage of the stimulus bill.
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smithichie9 months, 3 weeks ago
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You know what else are called monkeys?
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Monkeys.
Although in this case it was a chimp, not a monkey, they're apes like us.
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Radiofreeeuropa9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I am fairly certain this was ambiguous on purpose, just to sell papers.
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Racists will rush out and buy it, Controversy sells.
The lack of a label on the monkey saying "congress" or whatever the intended target is, seems unlikely an accident. Look at his past work, like all political cartoons I can think of the object being lampooned is clearly labeled. Funny how there is none here.
It's intentional. Murdoch gets publicity for his paper, If Sharpton gets p'd off, the Rushes and Bill O Liars of the world get fodder for their sh*t cannons.
Murdoch gets free publicity and increased advertising revenue.
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memestryker9 months, 3 weeks ago
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You nailed it, RFE. This cartoonist is slick. He knows some will react to the monkey, some to the gun, some to the police--he can cover a broad swath of America in one cartoon by NOT adding labels. And each will create a storm about their own perception of poor taste and Murdoch will get more ad revenue.
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memestryker9 months, 3 weeks ago
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As much as I find the cartoonist's work unfunny and distasteful, I still recognize his right to free speech. Although I think it's useful to talk about potential racist overtones, I don't think it's useful to direct wrath against the cartoonist. His job is taking touchy subjects and putting them in the public eye, and all of them upset someone for some reason.
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Funny--my distaste at the cartoon was the police with the gun shooting the monkey as "humor." I didn't even think about Obama when I saw it. Guess we all have our "triggers". -
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ybdogsct9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Remember this?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...
George Allen (R-VA) pointed at S.R. Sidarth in the crowd and repeatedly called him "macaca." S.R. Sidarth is an Indian volunteer for Democrat challenger James Webb.
'This fellow here, over here with the yellow shirt, macaca, or whatever his name is. He's with my opponent. He's following us around everywhere.' George Allen (R-VA) said, as his supporters began to laugh. 'Let's give a welcome to macaca, here. Welcome to America and the real world of Virginia.'
Depending on how it is spelled, the word macaca could mean either a monkey that inhabits the Eastern Hemisphere or a town in South Africa. In some European cultures, macaca is also considered a racial slur against African immigrants.
Before he ran for governor in 1993, Allen was criticized for keeping a Confederate flag in a cabin near his Charlottesville home, part of a collection of flags, he has said. He stirred controversy as governor by issuing a proclamation noting the South's celebration of Confederate History Month without mentioning slavery.
This year, the New Republic magazine published a photo of Allen wearing a Confederate flag on his lapel during high school."-
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Hhussk9 months, 3 weeks ago
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While racism, overall, is the broader issue, I don't see what this story has to do with the cartoon. Allen didn't draw it.
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If you're try to selectively paint Republicans, you should also point out the Democrats.
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ybdogsct9 months, 3 weeks ago
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You misconstrue. Nowhere did I accuse George Allen of drawing the cartoon, and I challenge you to quote my exact words where you found this alleged accusation.
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That story was meant to highlight how the monkey, or in George Allen's case the "macaca," imagery is a well-known, derogatory, and racially-charged image. The fact that the editors at News Corp's New York Post missed the cartoon's racial overtones demonstrates their incompetence, which is precisely why the New York Post later ISSUED A MEA CULPA a few days ago.
At worst, the cartoon and editors at the New York Post have been exposed as racists; at best, they have been exposed as stupefyingly incompetent.
Neither is a particularly admirable trait, "my friend."
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Mutainia9 months, 3 weeks ago
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IF one of the cops said, "Someone else is going to have to now sign the stimulus bill", that would have been a HUGE problem AND be racist. Instead, you just have confusion as the cartoonist tries and fails badly at making something funny out of something that was hideous and horrible (a poor woman being mauled to near death by a crazed ape that another poor soul was mis-guidedly showing affection for).
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PatrioticAmerican9 months, 3 weeks ago
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What because of what they say in the cartoon makes it racial ????? what if it had said "We knew this old vet would turn on people sometime" would that be racial ???? get over it its a cartoon just like any other. If it had been conceived as any other person but obama His supporters would be laughing their Azzes off
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Radiofreeeuropa9 months, 3 weeks ago
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No, it's a sh*tty cartoon. As are all his others. There is no humor here no matter how you alter it because of the event...the woman getting mauled, there is no way to make that funny while it's a current event. This is the Post's usual modus operandi. Appeal to the least intelligent among us and be controversial, yeah it sells papers.
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jovial9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Here's more of this Delonas humor. I wonder what creeps think this kind of stuff is funny.
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crghss9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Really these are funny. But what's really funny are the stupid captions next to them. Are you kidding me?
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Ah, ah there's a gay man in this one. Must hate Gays. Ah, um, ah the Rosie is in this one. Must hate Lesbians. Ah, um, pregnant guy in this one ,ah um must hate um, must hate Transgenders? Yeah that's it, hates transgender pregnant men. Yeah, what a creep. -
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smithichie9 months, 3 weeks ago
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That's a bit like saying, "I wonder what sort of creep likes rap music" or "I wonder what sort of creep likes country music". Comedy, like musical tastes, are subjective.
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I wonder, would you have found the cartoons to be funny had they portrayed folks from the right? It's fine to poke fun about Rush being a fat pig, but not Rosie?-
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memestryker9 months, 3 weeks ago
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That's like people who adore or despise Limbaugh and Moore. Both take a tiny piece of truth and embellish it without giving enough information to give people a big picture view of the issue. Both hijack the bias of their target audience.
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PatrioticAmerican9 months, 3 weeks ago
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For 1 thing Obama did not write the stimulus bill CONGRESS did so the cartoon is saying that any monkey can right the kind of bill that congress wrote it is not in anyway saying anything negative or racial about Obama. the only People that are offended are those that look for racial crap to be happening, and will make something racial when it is not.
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Bkumm9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Well, I know this is going to be unpopular, but I haven't received any death threats for a couple of weeks so...
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I don't think the cartoon was intentionally racist. I think it was stupid to try and link a horrible accident like the chimpanzee attack to the "stimulus" bill, but I don't think it was intentionally racist.
In fact, I wonder if this cartoon is not, instead, a sign of good things rather than bad. I know, that's going to irritate people, but think about it. The cartoonist didn't think there was going to be an outcry about using the chimp in the cartoon (as a matter of race) or he would have written it differently. So, maybe, just maybe, we're starting to get past it a little. But, then again, look at the outcry.
I don't think the guy is really very funny and I think he's off base sometimes, but I'll bet conservative Republicans don't like Mark Fiore either.
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mecormany9 months, 3 weeks ago
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so you're saying that unless the cartoonist was so dumb he wrote Obama's name on the monkey and changed the words of the cop to 'signed' instead of written, it can't possibly be a racist cartoon directed at Obama. Yeah, there are lots of people who don't get it and lots who pretend they don't get it. Amazing, really truly amazing that they pretend to be shocked that the semantic games you people are doing to deny what is damn obvious doesn't work on everybody, But you've also got yourselves convinced the people are down on Obama and down on the stimulus bill so what else can be expected. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer, are we, connies?
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lvrofwolves9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Regardless of the cartoonists intent, any lame brain would know the majority of people would take one look at it and see racist. It's a 1 frame cartoon, usually there's plenty of room for interpretation in art work and inspires thought, this tho, is different. Most people think Obama wrote the stimulus, and the buck does stop with Obama, you need to look at the intent of the cartoon and what most will think. Maybe it does seem to be mostly knee jerk reaction, but is a 1 frame cartoon meant to require deep thought? no........cartoons are instant things, and if you've seen the artists other cartoons, you might change your opinion from 'this meant a whole lot more and had nothing to do with racism' to yeah...this guys an ass How could the cartoonist not know there would be an outcry?? seriously, is he that stupid?. If he really isn't a racist, then he's a serious dumbass.
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gamahuche9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Bkumm is no con, which you would if you'd been here when he was more frequently active here - take a look at his profile, especially his activity.
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He does take pride in being an independent thinker.
I disagree with him on this because I sincerely believe that this was an extremely deliberate provocation but one which left JUST enough wiggle room for someone to reach Bk's conclusion.
My profound diagreement is based on 2 factors - the first is Rupert Murdoch's HIDEOUS political track-record throughout his career. especially in pandering to the lowest common denominator of humanity and the second is that it is far more significant to me that the cartoonist was also and whichever editor was responsible were definitely aware of the inferences that would be drawn and deliberately set out to be provocative.
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lvrofwolves9 months, 3 weeks ago
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gamahuche,I am well aware of Bkumm's stance on things and I have a lot of respect for him, I just disagree with him on this, no problem, no change in respect I feel for him etc...I know just about everyone's profile that is on my friends list, and know when he was more active etc...I do not agree 100% of the time with the 'friends' I have on here or my friends in real life. that is not a need of mine.
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crghss9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Wow, how ignorant can people be. It's not a "caricature" of the President.
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With a little help you may get this. It's a "caricature" of the people who wrote the stimulus package. Who wrote the stimulus package? C'mon, you can do it. Who wrote the stimulus package. C'mon, almost there. Yes congress. Congress wrote the stimulus package. And then they did what? C'mon, think, yes the Senate and Congress made some changes together and now, for better or worse, we have a stimulus package. yeeeaaahhhhh, knew you could do it.
Now lets think about this. Most people don't like the stimulus package, not happy with it at all. Cops shoot a weirdo's chimp.Cartoonist put's the peoples unhappiness with Congresses stimulus package and depicts it as a chimp that the Po' Po' shoot in Connecticut.
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mecormany9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Hey lunkhead, I'll try and explain this as though to a very slow child which is what you must be.
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It's a caricature of no one. OK? Do you know what a caricature is? Obviously not, stupid question. Who's is associated with the stimulus? Not Congress. Maybe they wrote it and argued about it but it's Obama's bill, now follow this, lunkhead, count how many times you see Congress's Stimulus package and President Obama's Stimulus Package in the papers. Getting there? By the way, you're way off when you say most people don't like the stimulus package.---- by about 55 to 45 percent, but you probably would need that explained too., What you mean is YOU dont like the stimulus package.
Now the thing you really need explained to you is the fact that for 200 years blacks have been described, pictured and referred to in political cartoons, ads etc as monkeys, apes. gorillas, etc. Look it up, dont be afraid the truth won't hurt. Now who happens to be black and associated with the Stimulus package? President Obama!! Your 4th guess but I knew you'd get it.
Since the people aren't unhappy about the Stimulus package and indeed 68% are happy with the job Obama's doing, and 55% are happy with the stimulus and it would seem the cartoonist has roughly the same opinion you have. I don't like it, but damn, everybody else does. So let's take a tragic event, slip in a racist message that somebody ought to shoot somebody associated with the stimulus, there aren't several hundred dead chimps are there? How many do you see? One? Very good.
You see, even a neo nutcase who thinks it's just good fun can understand why to most people it's anything but.
There not too hard was it? Put youself in someone else's shoes for a few seconds. read the polls instead of being so arrogant you think what you think is what most people think when it isn't even close and even lunkheads can figure it out.
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fiftynine9 months, 3 weeks ago
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No bashing Bkumm..but i disagree with you and i'll add ...respectfully.
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I have seen plenty of cartoon depicting bush in a very bad light..some were funny and some weren't. What i never saw was a cartoon of American police shooting the caricature of him.
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fiftynine9 months, 3 weeks ago
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" Anyway, I've heard mothers tell their children (of all races) all my life to quit acting like a monkey when they're simply acting out or demonstrating unruly behaviour."...
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Tell ya what big boy..go to Harlem and try that act...BTW have an escape plan ready.
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4cprocess9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Wow, talk about hair trigger reactions!
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Every lefty-liberal here is so quick to reference anything political to this President.
It is plain as day that the cartoonist is referring to the "authors" of the bill which was our glorious Democratically controlled House of Representatives!
Geesh! Talk about turning a mountain into a moehill. This is what happens when you mix political correctness with misguided emotions.
There is no mention whatsoever of Obama or the Presidency for that matter. It just emphasizes how stupid, out-of-touch and mundane this Congress has become.
I think he hit the nail on the head.
Anyway, I've heard mothers tell their children (of all races) all my life to quit acting like a monkey when they're simply acting out or demonstrating unruly behaviour.
At some time you folks (diehard dems & libs) are gonna have to get confortable with this man and get over being so defensive. Not only does it appear foolish on your part but it also decries a lack of confidence in your own choice.
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crghss9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Wow, someone who actually gets it. It's so simple but people are so clueless it's astonishing.
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1st news item.......Congress and Senate hammer out a stimulus package which most people thing is terrible.
2nd news item...... Cops shoot some weirdo's Chimp
Put them together and we get this cartoon.
Simple right? Nope, not by the supporters of the Chosen one.
So what's really going on here? Let's take a look.
Obama's number priority has been getting this stimulus package from congress and passed. But Majority of the public doesn't like. So when someone criticizes it, ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK. Take attention away from stimulus package points somewhere else.
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Someone had to be the first to cast criticism Obama's.way Even thought this cartoon wasn't directed at Obama it was close enough to lay down the Gauntlet. You criticize the Chosen One and you'll be flamed. Your not on board? We'll shut you down. Free Press? Doesn't matter your free to agree. Freedom of speech? Forget that you have the freedom to listen to the Chosen One's speeches.
Scary times are in deed ahead. From stocking his cabinet with people from the press in his cabinet. To an attack group that will scream racism for any perceived threat to the Chosen One.
A man in Oklahoma with a sign critical of Obama was pulled over, sign taken and report to the Secret Service. This is the 3rd instance I read about since the Obama came on the scene. Imagine what we don't find out about?
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Dionys9 months, 3 weeks ago
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A man in Oklahoma with a sign critical of Obama was pulled over, sign taken and report to the Secret Service. This is the 3rd instance I read about since the Obama came on the scene. Imagine what we don't find out about?
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"Abort Obama Not the Unborn,"
It's not a sign critical of Obama, it's a sign calling for the murder of Obama (since anti-Abortion people always assert Abortion is murder).
Which makes it a death threat against Obama.
Which makes action against a person making such a threat MORE than justifiable.
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gamahuche9 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Talk about turning a mountain into a moehill."
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Was that one of the miracles of the New Testament that I missed?
I IMAGINE that what you are attempting to say is "making a mountain out of a molehill"?
As a professional translator and corrector, I'm obliged to charge for my services so please oblige me with a terrestrial address s to which I may send the invoice.
It wasn't much, its true, but the $20 minimum service-fee will apply.
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epiphannyy9 months, 3 weeks ago
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That was my thought on it as well. How any thinking person could look at that cartoon and interpret it any other way is in denial.
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The cartoon by itself wouldn't be racist.
The caption with a different picture that is not historically a racist analogy wouldn't have been racist.
But putting that caption with a picture that brings forth the most base racist analogy, comparing black men to monkeys, makes it nothing but.
The thing is, there is nothing even humorous about this cartoon. The NY Post defended it as "humor" but who, except for the racists, are laughing? No one that I can tell. Besides, what connection was there between that chimp going crazy and Obama's stimulus package? What does that cartoon with that caption even mean, if not to compare our President with an "out of control monkey"????
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memestryker9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Poor taste, yes. Not published? I don't buy it. Our first amendment demands that we allow it. I think that African-Americans are going to have to develop a thick shell like women, gays, obese people, presidents, and others have had to do. If you're going to play in the Big Game, you're going to have to learn to just ignore it or you'll be caught up in an endless maelstrom.
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Controlling speech has no place in America, and political correctness is killing us. What gives this cartoon life is all the ranging and judgment. When the ranting and judgment stops, this will go away.
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Hhussk9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I think it's a crappy cartoon, but I doubt (after reviewing the cartoons that jovial provided) that he intended it to be targeted racially.
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I pray, especially after Attorney General Holder's "Nation of Cowards" comment, that we don't embark on a 4 year battle of "who is a racist" and "who isn't a racist".
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ybdogsct9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Remember this?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...
George Allen (R-VA) pointed at S.R. Sidarth in the crowd and repeatedly called him "macaca." S.R. Sidarth is an Indian volunteer for Democrat challenger James Webb.
'This fellow here, over here with the yellow shirt, macaca, or whatever his name is. He's with my opponent. He's following us around everywhere.' George Allen (R-VA) said, as his supporters began to laugh. 'Let's give a welcome to macaca, here. Welcome to America and the real world of Virginia.'
Depending on how it is spelled, the word macaca could mean either a monkey that inhabits the Eastern Hemisphere or a town in South Africa. In some European cultures, macaca is also considered a racial slur against African immigrants.
Before he ran for governor in 1993, Allen was criticized for keeping a Confederate flag in a cabin near his Charlottesville home, part of a collection of flags, he has said. He stirred controversy as governor by issuing a proclamation noting the South's celebration of Confederate History Month without mentioning slavery.
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memestryker9 months, 3 weeks ago
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It's no longer politically correct to allow the confederacy to just be a part of history and many people's heritage--the vast majority of whom were not slave owners.
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I live where I frequently hear rappers ranting about killing cops and white people and abusing women on car radios, which is perfectly acceptable, of course. And even kids' TV shows talk about "pimping" now. It's a new day.-
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cushi8 months, 4 weeks ago
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"I live where I frequently hear rappers ranting about killing cops and white people and abusing women on car radios, which is perfectly acceptable, of course. And even kids' TV shows talk about "pimping" now. It's a new day"
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It may be a new day, but it's got a very old problem! Too many unacceptable behaviors and too much unacceptable language being tolerated!! As an African American, I am extremely offended by most of the lyrics spewing forth from not only rappers, but heavy metallists (funny you didn't mention them). Creativity does not need, nor should it be propped up by a bunch of filthy, derogatory, violent, outrageous and dangerous words or activities!
These things should be objectionable on the basis of common decency and common sense! I do not and will not defend or condone hateful speech, hateful lyrics, hateful behavior, or HATEFUL DEPICTIONS (CARTOONS INCLUDED), period. Don't care where it's coming from!-
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memestryker8 months, 3 weeks ago
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I only mentioned rap because of the racial/ethnic overtones of the chimp discussion--it was meant to demonstrate counterpoint.
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It's a tough situation--I don't want to tamper with free speech in the name of political correctness and turn the U.S. into what I've seen much of the rest of the world become. And any time anything is banned, that just makes it more attractive and expensive, and a black market always emerges and thrives.
And a significant percentage of youth always want to shock their parents and society to get attention, so I think they are best distracted and ignored, like toddlers having tantrums.
You nailed it--it should be "objectionable" but not banned.
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not2needy9 months, 3 weeks ago
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You don't have to destroy freedom of speech to NOT support racists and racism..
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Why is it when someone doesn't want to see or read racist comments, you cons immediately assume that we want to destroy freedoms.. What about my freedom to not have to be exposed to that garbage? Racists aren't the only ones who pays for freedoms in this country. God knows we libbies are the only ones who don't complain about paying to live here!!-
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memestryker9 months, 2 weeks ago
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I go after both liberals and conservatives, and both go after me!
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Since the majority on propeller attack conservatives, it wouldn't be fruitful to endlessly post "me, too." And propeller would just tag me as a spammer.
I don't think you post like a liberal, either! That's just my opinion, of course!
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mecormany9 months, 3 weeks ago
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except oddly enough therer was nothing remotely like that when Bush was pushing the bailout and he was already as disliked as a president has ever been but not once do i recall a cartoon that even implied someone should be killed over any of his string of lame brain deciisons, most of which were aimed totally at making his buds richer and the rest of us poorer,
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memestryker9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Bush was frequently portrayed as a monkey.
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People are making a big deal of this, so it will continue to be the buzz for a while. Anything that gets Sharpton in the limelight is probably not worth spending time on, AFAIC. I consider him as newsworthy as I do Limbaugh.
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mmrhe9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Combining the horrorific attack by that chimp this soon after it happened could not be 'funny' in any context.
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This guy is an obvious hack who knew he was over the line but did it for the ensuing publicity.
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crghss9 months, 3 weeks ago
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If there is a point of contention that's it. Being that a person was so severely hurt and may still not make it. That truly is the tragedy in all this.
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But the only thing people care about was that someone may have dared criticize the Chosen One. How dare they. Research is done, websites are launched, liberal city militia's are mobilized in the sake of vilifying the offender.
Everyone ignores what really is important. Someone's physical well being.
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woofandmeow9 months, 3 weeks ago
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LOL!!! IF IT GETS THE LIBS FOAMING AT THE MOUTH IN ANGER THEN I WILL BE A LOYAL POST READER FOREVER. FUNNY WHEN CARTOONISTS MADE FUN OF BUSH OR PALIN NOBODY GOT UPSET---SORRY COWARDLY LIBERALS---YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS---TIME TO DROOL WITH ANGER AGAIN LOONY LIBS---LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dionys9 months, 3 weeks ago
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"FUNNY WHEN CARTOONISTS MADE FUN OF BUSH OR PALIN NOBODY GOT UPSET"
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It'd be fine if someone made fun of Obama. In fact I'd welcome it because it seems hard to do and very few comedians seem to be able to do it.
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scarfymunkadomus9 months, 3 weeks ago
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its only racist if you think it is, you twits. if obama doesnt care, and ill bet you a thousand dollars hes not crying over this, why do you? the best way to deal with someone's opinions are to ignore them. ill be an example and start.... now, with all of you.
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tehranchik9 months, 3 weeks ago
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This brings to mind the Danish cartoon that caused a severe reaction to a specific group of people over a year ago.
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There are certain lines that shouldn't be crossed and sometimes we don't know where that line is until we HAVE crossed it.
This cartoon is certainly in bad taste as the one from the Danish cartoonist was. Has anyone bothered to ask the creator what his intention was? What was he thinking when this piece of tripe popped into his little brain? Does anyone know him? Is he a racist? Or, is he just a total jerk-off? I'd be interested in knowing. Most people deny their racism - maybe he does too. -
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poet2nyc9 months, 3 weeks ago
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Anyone who takes anything serious from Al Sharpton should be reminded of the Tawana Brawley incident. If he were white, he never would have had any type of public credibility after that HOAX. By the way, where is Sharpton's outrage at the Christian-Newsom murders???
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Tangent0019 months, 3 weeks ago
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Idiotic? yes. Lack of editorial restraint? yes. Racism? no. The cartoon was clearly about casting the recovery bill as 'stupid' (written by a monkey).
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CHAM9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I agree with Tehranchick. It is bad taste as a minimum. The minimum is if he meant it about the chimp. But I find it hard to believe that he was speaking of the chimp attack since he clearly wrote the balloon about the stimulus.
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But I do think he has the right to speak it.
You know not everyone has that right. Not even here in America. Remember Simone Hardin?
How about her case. She obviously didn't have freedom of speech, otherwise when she wrote the note she wouldn't have been sentenced to big time. She wouldn't get away with what the cartoonist did either.
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poet2nyc9 months, 3 weeks ago
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the word 'racist' is so over used these days... freedom of speech and thought are what America is(or used to be)about. It takes all kinds. How many people would be considered 'racist' if the hidden truths were known, and how many of them would be non-white? think about it.........
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sfrobink9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I don't like it at all. This was a horrific incident for the chimp, and the two women involved. That's the story.
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It's completely unfair to transfer that story to Congress, the stimulus bill and the president, especially when there are racist connotations.
This edition of the New York Post should be recalled, the publisher issue an apology to the country, and if the cartoonist works for this paper, he should be fired.
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Monica629 months, 3 weeks ago
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Publishing this cartoon wasn't a very smart thing to do. Everyone knows that Al Sharpton is just looking for something to complain about. Racist blacks just look for excuses to get someone fired. Since some nice blacks could be hurt, they shouldn't have published the cartoon.
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mecormany9 months, 3 weeks ago
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and why is that? because we'd have cartoonists implying he should be shot everytime he did something nutjobs didn't like? Nutjobs are the problem, not the black president, but being a nutjob you'd hardly agree.
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And like I said before - Bush made more stupid decisions that any 20 presidents and not once was it implied he should be shot. Bit of a difference between poking fun and advocating murder of anybody -- congress or president although in this case it's pretty hard to make the argument he's referring to congress. -
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orndorffter9 months, 3 weeks ago
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babyfluttershy, Talk for yourself, as far as Bush is concerned, if he were still our president we would react the same way, because he would be our President. That Black man has already done more no longer then he has been in office then your presious former President Bush, I may not be black but I am proud to call what you say the black man, PRESIDENT. Dont talk for everyone else talk for yourself, not everybody feels the same way you do, or some of the others who are aways putting him down.
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orndorffter9 months, 3 weeks ago
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You can denie it all you want. The cartoon was meant to portray our President, and comeing from the police officer in the cartoon,"THEY'LL HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE THE NEXT STIMULUS BILL" was stupid to write that because they knew what and why they wrote it. It made our President look like a chimpanzee and he had been shot by police. if it was not meant to be that way those words would never been writen. Yes it is made to look the way people took it,(racist) He is our President and the New York post knew better. they arnt children they just act like children, only kids know better then to portray our President as a Chimpanzee and write that stupid saying the way the one who made the cartoon. I hope Obama does see it then he'll know who to trust and not to trust.It is not funny at all.
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crazycowspr99 months, 3 weeks ago
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WOW. YOU GOT BLACK HISTORY MONTH, BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION, BLACK CAUCUS, BLACK EMMY AWARDS, BLACK MISS AMERICA, BLACK MISS UNIVERSE, BLACK MISS TEEN USA, BLACK BIKER'S WEEK, BLACK SPRING BREAK, BLACK COLLEGES, BLACK UNIVERSITIES, UNITED NEGRO COLLEGE FUND, BLACK STARZ CHANNELS, BLACK FAMILY CHANNEL, BLACK EXPO WEEK, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO ENSURE NEGROES ARE HIRED, BLACK COACHES ASSOCIATION...I COULD GO ON AND ON. TALK ABOUT RACIST. NO ONE EVER MENTIONS THESE RACIST AFFILIATIONS.. NOT ONE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED EVEN EXIST IN THE WHITE SPECTRUM. TALK ABOUT RACISM. GET A LIFE PEOPLE. YOU CAN OFFEND ANYONE IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT YOU BETTER NOT OFFEND A BLACK. A GROUP THAT MAKES UP A MERE 13% OF OUR POPULATION. IF THIS CARTOONIST WAS BEING RACIST, THEN BY GOD, ALL THESE SO-CALLED ORGANIZATIONS I LISTED ARE SURELY RACIST.
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thoughtforsale9 months, 3 weeks ago
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This cartoon is more than disgusting! It doesn´t only show a lag of respect for the presidency, but it also continues the chain of racist comparisons, seing black people not as human-beings, but at something primitive on the animal-level. The New York Post should not only apologize for letting this insultant drawing appear. They should pay for having done so, and the money should go to an organization fighting against racial discrimination. Of course, cartoons are always exaggerated and not to be taken too seriously, but this one unfortunately shows that under the cover of political correctness, there are still the old racist tendences alive!
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phillip6x79 months, 3 weeks ago
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see any likeness to Obama in the chimpanzee. Who would ever assume that the dead chimp is supposed to be Obama? He didn't write the stimulus bill, that was the Democrat Congress and Senate.
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Given the hype and the story, I was expecting to see an obviously racist cartoon, but what I see is a commentary that the Senate and Congress were acting like out of control animals in their whirlwind passage of a bill that isn't terribly popular. They probably don't need to be shot for that, but that's another story.
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sportzzz699 months, 3 weeks ago
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How many people would have found it disgusting had it been G. Bush in the cartoon? Tasteless political humor is nothing new. I don't care if he is black or white or whatever, he's president and he is gonna get his share. Get over it and move on. Or better yet just don't buy the paper.
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sbchick689 months, 3 weeks ago
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When I first saw the cartoon I did not see anything racist until it was pointed out to me. I do not think the artist did it intentionally but he should apologize. Political cartoons have been around for many years. I think some of the people posting here are upset due to the fact that during the election most newspapers supported Obama and did not run anything negative agaist him. At least here in Harrisburg PA they did not. Now that he was elected he is considered fair game. I think they should be allowed to run political cartoons as long as they have merit to do it. This cartoon was borderline. Unless you are use to the racist comments being thrown at you there is a good chance you will not notice it in the cartoon at first like I did. Once it was pointed out to me and I thought about it really does look racist. This is coming from a McCain supporter, so don't anyone try and say I'm just a liberalist screaming because someone made fun of my choice.
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rikstik716649 months, 3 weeks ago
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Protest and look like whining fools, president does not write the bill, president wrote 1,300 page bill? Sorry but thats the job of congress. Remember Pelosi saying "We won the election. We write the bill". DUH!!!!Chimp in cartoon depicted the CONGRESS not the president. Tired of hearing "RACISIM"... I knew it would happen, liberals,BLACKS and "RACISTS" AL SHARPTON. Remember Tawana Brawley? Duke le crosse? Al Sharpton told these woman to "LIE" about being raped by "WHITE" men and that never happened. So "WHINE" along side "RACISTS" AL SHARPTON. DUMMYS!!!!!
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lovemylibs9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I would like to know what the honest liberals on Propeller think about what the HuffPo just did to create a racially charged controversy where there was none. Read this and let me know if you will all boycott any and all stories from the HuffPo from now to perpetuity.
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Enjoy:
http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/rex256797662....
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Ciera-Marie9 months, 3 weeks ago
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You know I find the cartoon THAT IS THE SUBJECT of this thread racist and that the cartoonist did it intentionally.
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I also took precious time out from studying to click on the link. If it is true I find that in bad taste as well.
If GW had been depicted in the cartoon I would've found it in bad taste as well. Assassination jokes about any president aren't funny. But this one is in especially poor taste and judgment as we have a sitting President who has received death threats from the very first day he ran for president. For anyone to say it's not depicted as being him is just refusing to see it. It's blatant.-
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lovemylibs9 months, 3 weeks ago
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The key difference, Ciera-Marie, is that the intentions in one case are obvious but the intentions in the other case are open to interpretation. The obvious case of race baiting conducted by the HuffPo should be looked down at by all liberals since racism is not an issue to be taken lightly and since there was a blatant attack by the HuffPo against a member of a competing media outlet and since there was a lie on which this attack was based. All the energy being spent discussing this cartoon should be used to dicuss the obvious case of race baiting engineered by the HuffPo. It would lend more creedence to their argument that racism is wrong in any form, if they were to reject and denounce the HuffPo for using racial overtones, lies and subterfuge. If they don't treat this incident by the HuffPo with more fervor than they treat this cartoon, then how can one take them seriously?
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Commodore19 months, 3 weeks ago
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How does it feel liberals? Huh? All of U hypocrites thought it was funny when it was against Bush or Palin. U justified the hell out of it if it implied Bush was getting shot or killed. During the Bush years all of U patted yourselves on the back and held up your heads high during some of the most disgusting things U published about Bush and/or Palin. And now you're crying over this? Tough noogies.
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jordan119 months, 3 weeks ago
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Given the history of the characterization of black Americans as 'monkeys' in our country over many decades, anyone who denies the connection to that 'cartoon' and President Obama is a disingenuous fool.
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The characterizations that we see throughout our lives through 'art' aren't forgotten, and obviously not forgotten by that scum bag 'cartoonist.' -
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imrdgrnr9 months, 3 weeks ago
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This like the kid who got picked on in school. He grows up becomes a police officer and it goes to his head. Then every time he smells bacon he thinks someone is making fun of him. So he try's to outlaw pork products because he's insecure. Why make the rest of society pay for someones insecurity? What's the big deal anyway? what country in the world hasn't had a black slave? What's the big deal about black slaves anyway? I'm pretty sure that every race has been slaves to someone at sometime. There's been black world leaders fora long long time in other countries, so it's not like you couldn't tell the young black children in America that they couldn't grow up to be a leader of a country somewhere. How many black kid's want to grow up to be president anyway? Or how many kid's in general want to grow up up be president? I'd say MOST just want money and women, then maybe a phat ride. Everyone's just a friggin whiner in this country. Poor us I don't want to go to school, please give me some welfare money. That's all races in America. Really the only time I get upset about race is when someone has to mention the fact that they are different because of the color of their skin. Pretty sure with a little effort in some part of this country you can be whatever you want to be. Hey, and if it's not working here it's a big world.
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wwdbrown19 months, 3 weeks ago
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The only thing 'racist" I see about it is the so called, {REV} Al Sharpton.
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The so called {REV.}Al Sharpton,and so called {REV,}JESSEY JACKSON, along with the so called {REV.}WRIGHT,are just about as much as Ministers of the Gospel as the Rev.Judas Isaccarit. Thier all trouble makers. -
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ladyvenus29 months, 3 weeks ago
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Talk about outrage....where is the outrage about Obama signing the very first bill he signed to kill thousands of the unborn babies in the USA by reinstating partial birth aboration???? You people better get your priorities straight before you die and see what real outrage is!
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THOMNH629 months, 3 weeks ago
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that was deep, I am no Barry fan but they had to think that cartoon was going to bring negative scrutiny , it is extremely racist and no matter what your politics it is poor taste. The only thing they could have done worse was to add a watermelon.
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djn3nunez39 months, 3 weeks ago
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Personally I don't think the chimp in the cartoon is suppose to represent President Obama. I think it is a statement against the Democratically sponsored stimulus package. I don't find too much of the authors comics very funny except in a sick kinda way.
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However the reaction to a cartoon does sort of remind me of the Muslim reaction to the Danish cartoon, but so far, just a little. Remember it's a free country and I hope all the protest against the Post and the cartoonist stays non-violent. -
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Georgia509 months, 3 weeks ago
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Poor Al. Just can't help being the transparent bigot. Where was Al when Justice Thomas was dealt racist epithets by racist liberals? Where was Al when Condaleeza Rice's race was maligned by racist liberals?
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vantass89 months, 3 weeks ago
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well Sharpton got his big ugly head in the news whoopie he did not loose his job Discrimination what a crock of bull Truth hurts This stimulus plan does not effect any one honest taxpayer or 92% mortage payer and the cartoon is right any ape can be trained to do something and the ape went mad WHAT A CARTOON
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rambonrse9 months, 3 weeks ago
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I cannot believe how many idiots there are out there! Who 'wrote' the stimulus package?? Congress did! Yeah, Obama signed it, but he did not write the entire thing. The metaphorical monkey being shot was NOT supposed to be the president referred to, but Congress. And, yes, it means that the stimulus package could have been written by a monkey - the PC police are so quick to jump on any imagery that has historical connotations of being racist. Sheesh.
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