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Posted By cowboygrandpa 10 months ago in Family

Live version of the song "The Living Years" by Mike and the Mechanics at the Prince's trust!

Say it, say it, say it loud, say it clear. You can listen as well as you hear.
It's to late when we die, to admit we don't se eye to eye.

How true this song is. I was just remembering my dad. His birthday would have been last week.
I'm almost at the age he died at. I hear his words now and understand them.

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    cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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    When I came home from Nam. My dad who was in WWII, didn't understand me, the wars were different.
    The reasons for the war were different.
    We didn't see eye to eye.
    He loved my daughters and they adored him. I learned from them.
    He was my dad and I still love him, 20 years after he died, I still miss the man.
    We weren't that different, just years apart. Now I know where he was. I hear what he was saying.
    Great song, with a lot of wisdom.

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      RedRiverJ10 months ago

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      cowboygrandpa, thanks for sharing that, brings back memories!
      To you and all NAM vets, many thanks and much respect to all for who served in a difficult war.

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      cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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      gama:

      I know what ya mean. My ex's mom hated me. Made it hard during family get togethers. LOL.

      Her dad respected me though. He was another WWII vet and was a ground pounder like me. He used to say we were a couple of dogfaces who escaped the dog pound.

      I knew what he meant but sadly his wife didn't. She used to tell him I was no good and worthless. I think the psychological term is transferance. LOL

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        jordan1110 months ago

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        Tomorrow morning I'm flying to CA to see my dad. I've been down since learning yesterday that he has Cancer. I can't tell you how finding your message has helped me. Thank you, & this is why I believe in a higher power, that no matter how bad things are, from out of nowhere the right message comes along.

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          Wolfie200710 months ago

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          Jordon, I will remember your dad in my prayers if you don't mind.

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            jordan1110 months ago

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            Of course I don't mind,, & thank you. Your prayers are very welcome.

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            cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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            jordan11:

            I can only say that I'm so sorry that your dad and you are suffering. Cancer is what caused my dads demise. My prayers go out for you, your dad and family.

            I'm glad this song is able to help. And of course you are so very welcome.

            God Bless you and yours.

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            cushi9 months, 1 week ago

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            Hi CG,

            Thanks for sharing this with me! My brother was in Nam, and he came back a changed person. Never been the same again, matter of fact. Only Republican in our family and he is totally brainwashed with the party line. He is anti-abortion and cannot see beyond that one issue, nor is he able to see all facets of it. I am fully convinced that he was brainwashed while in the military, and God only knows what he was subjected to as a spy in Military Intelligence. I do know that they tried to get him to join the CIA as a civilian, and he said thanks but no thanks, thank God!!
            We were very close before the war, but not so much now. I sometimes feel like his body came back from Nam, but his soul didn't!

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            gamahuche10 months ago

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            Nice CBGP!
            Thanks for sharing:)
            I'm sorry that I didn't make peace in time with a couple of my antecedents, caught between being true to my chosen partner and their refusal to accept her..

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              Ciera-Marie10 months ago

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              Gama, I know what you mean.

              A week and half before my dad committed suicide we finally made peace. He had called me (I knew immediately the day he died why he called.) to a. say goodbye b. ask for forgiveness for some things he needed to ask for forgiveness for. I was able to also ask for forgiveness for some things as well. I wish we could've enjoyed the peace a little longer. All of you who are dads know this, the bond you have between your children is just as strong as the one between mother and child. It really, truly is. When it breaks you feel it to the core of who you are.

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                cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                C_M:

                May the peace of the Lord fill you and give you comfort.

                Sorry it took me so long to reply. Been overloaded a bit.

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              Goppy10 months ago

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              I hope my son and I always have a good relationship. Time will tell.
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              But you know, our children are not ours - they pass through us - we don't own them - we love them unconditionally - give them every tool to manage life as we are able - and do our utmost to keep their world a safe one - but they are not ours.

              They are their own entities and every child makes his or her own way.
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                Ciera-Marie10 months ago

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                Goppy truer words of wisdom were never spoken. Ones I've reminded myself of while raising my 18 yr old to the person he now is. "We don't own them."

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                SenorCoconut10 months ago

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                Awesome song, thanks for for the share CG.

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                  cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                  SenorCoconut:

                  Thank you. For taking the time to drop in and share this.

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                  Will131310 months ago

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                  thank you cowboygrandpa... good son... words of wisdom.. sad most / many including myself .. don't really hear the words.. until.. too. late..

                  thanks..

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                    cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                    Will:

                    Yeah, as we get older we realize. But then again I'm sure it was the same for ours fathers, and their fathers, ...

                    At least we learn. There is still hope we can break the chain.

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                      Will131310 months ago

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                      my father and his father were tight.. .. but his mother. he never forgave her.. for leaving his father when he was a child.. and not taking him.. at that time... grandpa.. drank a little to much... I in my life NEVER saw him drink.. .. and pop wasn't much of a drinker.. 1-5 beers a YEAR.. not that we didn't go see his mom.. but there was always a tension even a child could see...

                      I have a son 1 of 2 that I haven't spoken 2 in 10-12 years and haven't actually seen him since 1995.. we weren't talking much at that point.. but when he disrespected my mother at a Thanksgiving dinner ..she had trouble making in her old age.. I needed to be restrained.. big time.. lucky.. I'd probably just about now be getting out of jail....

                      so that song just gives a little tug.. in a pit I don't care to open...

                      guess I revealed too much here in public..

                      be well.. be safe my friend...

                      Will

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                        cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                        Will:

                        Never to late to say what ya feel my friend.

                        Ya don't know, your son might be feeling terrible but doesn't know how to approach the subject.

                        I don't know and I'm not trying to butt in. I know that one of my daughters and I had what she considered to be a major disagreement. She allowed it to fester for 8 years before she told me.

                        Eight years we wasted because of something stupid I said when I was half asleep and didn't even remember saying .

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                          greenmac10 months ago

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                          You are right..."it is never to late to try"

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                            Will131310 months ago

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                            thanks i know you both and I agree with what you are both saying believe me..

                            My wife and I used to have serious "conversations" about this.. about every 6 weeks at first.. ..

                            last time was about a year ago...

                            stubbornness is a family trait..

                            and while I may have "revealed" a little too much to the propeller community...... ..

                            there is absolutely nothing any one can say.. or use to get under my skin..... or into my head....

                            Thanks for caring....

                            Will

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                    jaern10 months ago

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                    thanks CG! great post. :)

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                      cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                      jaern:

                      Thanks, and thanks for sharing.

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                      AnteUp10 months ago

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                      Well this will date me - but we bought the ALBUM just
                      for this song. Really gets to me.
                      Thanks for sharing Cowboy!

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                        cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                        AnteUp:

                        LOL Yeah I guess we are geting a little longer in the tooth.

                        Thanks

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                        Newperson10 months ago

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                        Thanks one of my favorites.Posted by a very cool guy. Thats right You Cowboygrandpa :)

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                          greenmac10 months ago

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                          I gave you 3 + for that one

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                            cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                            greemmac:

                            Hahahaaahaa

                            I'll see that and bump ya 3 more for yours.

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                            cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                            NP:

                            Thanks.

                            I think all my friends are the cool ones. After all they put up with me . LOL

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                          uncle-dave10 months ago

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                          Nice pick, CBGP! I haven’t heard that group in years. Thanks for the invite.

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                            cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                            uncle-dave:

                            Glad ya enjoyed it my friend.

                            How are ya doing up there in the frigid north ?????

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                            rightfromwrong10 months ago

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                            nice tune....last week I was thinking of posting this one myself.

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                              dadesider10 months ago

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                              This song and Clapton's "My Father's Eyes", so true... THX CBGP...

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                                cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                                dadesider:

                                Thanks my friend.

                                I certainly agree.

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                                Ciera-Marie10 months ago

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                                Thank you CBG for posting this. You posted this at just the right time.

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                                  cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                                  Ciera-Marie:

                                  Thank you.

                                  This song has always been one of my favoriites. I used to listen to it and say it will be different for my children.

                                  Well it is a little different.

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                                  greenmac10 months ago

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                                  Thanks CB... My dad passed away about 10 years ago. He was a person that liked the water...today when I am out on the boat, I wish he was there to cruise along with me, he would have liked that. We all put off saying things that should be said before it is to late.

                                  Every generation
                                  Blames the one before
                                  And all of their frustrations
                                  Come beating on your door

                                  I know that Im a prisoner
                                  To all my father held so dear
                                  I know that Im a hostage
                                  To all his hopes and fears
                                  I just wish I could have told him in the living years

                                  Crumpled bits of paper
                                  Filled with imperfect thought
                                  Stilted conversations
                                  Im afraid thats all weve got

                                  You say you just dont see it
                                  He says its perfect sense
                                  You just cant get agreement
                                  In this present tense
                                  We all talk a different language
                                  Talking in defence

                                  Say it loud, say it clear
                                  You can listen as well as you hear
                                  Its too late when we die
                                  To admit we dont see eye to eye

                                  So we open up a quarrel
                                  Between the present and the past
                                  We only sacrifice the future
                                  Its the bitterness that lasts

                                  So dont yield to the fortunes
                                  You sometimes see as fate
                                  It may have a new perspective
                                  On a different day
                                  And if you dont give up, and dont give in
                                  You may just be o.k.

                                  Say it loud, say it clear
                                  You can listen as well as you hear
                                  Its too late when we die
                                  To admit we dont see eye to eye

                                  I wasnt there that morning
                                  When my father passed away
                                  I didnt get to tell him
                                  All the things I had to say

                                  I think I caught his spirit
                                  Later that same year
                                  Im sure I heard his echo
                                  In my babys new born tears
                                  I just wish I could have told him in the living years

                                  Say it loud, say it clear
                                  You can listen as well as you hear
                                  Its too late when we die
                                  To admit we dont see eye to eye

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                                    cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                                    greenmac:

                                    Thank you my friend.

                                    My dad loved the ocean, he was in the navy in WWII.

                                    When I was younger we'd go to the ocean on vacation. I couldn't figure out why for years.

                                    But as much as he hated the war, he loved his friends and their memories. The ocean reminded him of them.

                                    My daughters can't understand why I'll go up and spend time in the boonies. They don't know I'm with my friends from the past.

                                    Thanks for putting the lyrics here.

                                    Oh oh, my wife thinks I'm choking.

                                    She should know the sound of my singing by now. LOL

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                                    DarkWizard10 months ago

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                                    cowboygrandpa,

                                    Good post. As usual.

                                    My parents are still alive and I decided to build a friendship with them a long time ago. I was always butting heads with my dad when I was younger. Now we are best friends. My mom and I always had a good relationship and that has continued through to today. My 3 daughters are a different matter as my ex took them 1200 miles away in 2000 when they were only 7, 9, and 11. I have a pretty good relationship with the 2 oldest, but the youngest is still trying to figure out where we stand. I've had some good talks with all of them, but my ex and her husband tried their hardest to erase me and my side of the family from the equation. Time will only tell how everything will play out.

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                                      Ciera-Marie10 months ago

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                                      Hang in there DW. You matter more to your daughters than they can tell you right now.

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                                        cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                                        DW:

                                        I'm glad you've built a relationship with your parents.

                                        I'm sorry your ex is playing that game. Mine and I came to an understanding.

                                        Our children we had together are our children. Others may be in their lives as the one in the house. But we are the mom and dad.

                                        It's best for the children and the parents.

                                        My prayers go out for you man.

                                        Hang in there. Daughters have a way of needing their dads.

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                                        Beeboppin7110 months ago

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                                        I've always loved this song but it became more relevant to me when my son was born.

                                        I think I caught his spirit
                                        Later that same year
                                        Im sure I heard his echo
                                        In my babys new born tears
                                        I just wish I could have told him in the living years...


                                        My son is the spitting image of his grandfather, who was battling cancer at the time of his birth. While we knew it wasn't terminal, that verse always brought tears to my eyes. There isn't a day that goes by when we don't see my dad's spirit in my son's actions. It's quite a site when they're together.

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                                          cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                                          Beboppin:

                                          That is great.

                                          I'm glad to hear it.

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                                          sarahturner10 months ago

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                                          Thank you for the song cowboygrandpa, and I would like to thank everyone for the comments as this has made for a different and interesting submission. It makes this "community" seem more real.

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                                            greenmac10 months ago

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                                            CB.... This is a song that about sums it up for me and probably many others as well. I was just to busy. As Dade said ...My Fathers Eys Was a good one as well. Thank you for this trip down memory lane

                                            Cat's In The Cradle - Harry Chapin - Subtitled

                                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHdVEk1tHco

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                                              jovial10 months ago

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                                              Yeah! Don't remember that one, but it's a very good song. Thanks for posting those lyrics GM. Thanks cowboy, I feel ya!

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                                                sprite_som10 months ago

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                                                Thanx for the song cowboy! I listened to this alot with my buddies, when I was stationed in Iraq. Thank you for the lyrics GM.

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                                                  cowboygrandpa10 months ago

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                                                  sprite_som:

                                                  Hand salute !!!! Thanks for your service.

                                                  Glad ya came home. :~))

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