Obama’s Pentagon review: Gitmo meets the standards of the Geneva Conventions »
Posted By pc25 9 months, 1 week ago in NewsWhen does the military’s compliance with international law qualify as bad news? When you’re a new president desperate for excuses to follow through on a dopey campaign promise that’ll please your nutroots base and no one else.
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123448807524880329...
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Obama's Antiterror Progress
He embraces Bush policies on secrecy, rendition.
President Obama has done a masterful job disguising his Administration's growing antiterror maturity, but this week produced further evidence that he is erring on the side of keeping the country safe rather than appeasing the political left. The Justice Department filed to dismiss a federal appeals case involving rendition, embracing an argument developed by . . . the Bush Administration.
wonder where this leaves the nut roots who are screaming for an investigation of Bush's DOJ -
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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Hope and Change Administration: Detainees have “no constitutional rights”
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As the Who said, “Meet the new boss — same as the old boss“:
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pc259 months, 1 week ago
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'No US rights' for Bagram inmates
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7903005.stm-
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GehlLady9 months, 1 week ago
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FTLink:
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"Prof Olshansky said the conditions at the Bagram facility, which is near the Afghan capital, Kabul, were worse than those at Guantanamo Bay, adding that there was a lack of due process available to detainees.
"The situation in Bagram is so far from anything like meeting the laws of war or the human rights treaties that we're bound to," she told the BBC. "
Thanks for the link PC.
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GehlLady9 months, 1 week ago
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"Walsh concluded that … force-feeding, which involves strapping prisoners to feeding chairs and forcing tubes down one nostril and into their stomachs, is in compliance the Geneva Convention’s mandate that the lives of prisoners must be preserved, the government official said."
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I do wish I had the wisdom to suggest the proper course of action, but I don't. I can't condone the above practice, either. If they prefer to die from a hunger strike, let them. -
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nostalgia9 months, 1 week ago
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Seems the ACLU doesn't want them in the Colorado supermax prison anyway
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ACLU of Colorado executive director Cathryn Hazouri says the conditions at Supermax won’t be an improvement for terror suspects. Noting that several Gitmo detainees have been released after the Bush administration admitted it couldn’t prove guilt, Hazouri questions whether a move to the tiny cells at Supermax, where most inmates are kept in solitary confinement 23 hours a day, is fair treatment for suspects awaiting trial.
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icono19 months, 1 week ago
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As 'The Messiah' he is omnipotent and therefore never, I repeat never, has to apologize to any mere mortal for anything much less a former President of the US.
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I do find it interesting how the view of Gitmo has now been officially sanitized and is now acceptable to the MSM and the new politicos in DC.
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Dionys9 months, 1 week ago
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Tcaros9 months, 1 week ago
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Exactly, one conservative cover-up artist with an opinion contrary to general observation.
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I guess we should think sensory deprivation is treating people humanely.
Google sensory deprivation or ask a medical doctor how long a person lasts with his eyes, ears, sense of touch, and movement cancelled out for several days.
Remember the orange suits with gloves, goggles and ankle shackles. Some of these folks were picked up for no apparant reason other than someone said "that person, right there." -
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Dionys9 months, 1 week ago
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It's interesting. I don't think I've ever heard a liberal, or someone who voted for Obama, call him 'the Messiah' or even imply such a thing.
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I wonder.. Do conservatives mock the true Messiah in the same, underhanded, sneaky, mocking way? -
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stephen-johnson9 months, 1 week ago
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Gitmo has to be closed, but detention in Afghanistan continues:
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/02/21/obama-ad...
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TOD3969 months, 1 week ago
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Wow, Just a month into a 48 month stint and already obama and crew are backpeddling. Well, it just goes to show you, the more things "change", the more they stay the same.
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Obama really isn't going to be any better or any worse than Bush. He just had the luxury of claiming that he would be different.-
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Tangent0019 months, 1 week ago
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How is the Obama administration 'backpedaling'? The report hasn't even been released yet. I imagine the Pentagon's report is one of a number of evaluations and I'd expect the most 'rosy' report to come from the folks who are RUNNING the place.
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Tcaros9 months, 1 week ago
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Okay folks.... this is not even a news article. It's a conservative blog.
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Do you trust "one person at the Pentagon to say that people working for the Pentagon under Rumsfeild were treating people humanely?"
What an utter bunch of whitewash, hogwash, or whatever you call it.
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sinophil499 months, 1 week ago
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You cons are really stretching it aren't you?
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Obama wants to CLOSE GITMO and the report was part of the review process.
The article does NOT say that Obama wants to keep Gitmo open and needs a justification to do so.
The article does not say that Obama ordered a coverup.
Since the review was part of the process of closing Gitmo, the clear implication was that Gitmo would be closed regardless of the outcome of the report. The unspoken implication is that the review would be part of the decision on further steps down the line. What would that be - disciplining, court martial, demotion, jail, discharge???
It REALLY smells like Adm Patrick Walsh was simply covering up the collective asses of the military involvement in Gitmo in order to avoid future disciplinary action.
So all you cons wagging your fingers and spewing your hypocritical righteoous anger should direct it at the military who tortured prisoners under the orders of Bush. Now the military is (are?) sh*tt*ng bricks with worry and trying to weasel their way out of legal repercussions.
I repeat. BUSH ORDERED THE TORTURE.
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Wolfie20079 months, 1 week ago
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Did you get that remark out of the Propeller Playbook for liberal, progressive, democrats? I've seen the same piece of blather posted on all pc25's articles for the past 6 months. If you guys have to recopy your mouth garbage over and over why bother?
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Tangent0019 months, 1 week ago
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Um, doesn't the Pentagon RUN Gitmo? Isn't that like asking Nike for a report on the conditions in its sweatshops? Isn't that like asking News Corp. for a report on the accuracy of Fox's reportage?
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The issue of past torture in Gitmo remains unresolved. Keep in mind, this report says that Gitmo 'complies' with the GC, not 'has always complied with' the GC. Even the Red Cross has stated that conditions have improved, but that is not really a vindication of possible past practices.
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Tangent0019 months, 1 week ago
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It wasn't until July 7, 2006 that the Pentagon agreed henceforth the detainees would receive protections under GC Common Article 3. Up to that point, the base was operated under the executive guidance that the detainees were not entitled to any GC protection whatsoever. In 2002, trainers were dispatched to Gitmo and based their interrogation classes on a 1957 study of Chinese interrogation techniques designed to illicit false confessions.
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The story of past treatment and the use of 'enhanced interrogation' is far from over. I hope Obama continues on course to close the facility and determine the long-range status of these detainees. -
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lloydm659 months, 1 week ago
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They should have been shot on the field of battle.All you snivelling cowards don't know anything about the rules of engagement in war.These people are not soldiers or, Even freedom fighters,their simply killers.When things slow down in the war they will bomb a school,or a market place.Death,and destruction is what drives them.I don't give a big rats a$$ one way or another.The place is ten times better than what they lived in before.I would like to see Alcatraz reopened as is,I also think there should be no guards.I also think that each man should have at least a side arm,and a full ammo belt.All supplies should be air droped.Ill bet you they will kill each other,they need the body count.You know,paradise, virgins and such.
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