How Republican Governors are lying to the Unemployed »
Posted By capj71 9 months, 1 week ago in NewsA major talking point of the Republican governors who are not going to take the unemployment funds in the stimulus bill is that it is a permanent tax increase, but by looking at the bill, it is clear that potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates Bobby Jindal, Haley Barbour, and Mark Sanford are at best wrong, or even worse, lying.
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CHAM9 months, 1 week ago
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Just think. The Republicans voted as a solid block in favor of the Bush Stimulus and Bailouts. You remember those don't you? They are the Bailouts that no one knows where the Billions went!
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So these people ( Republicans ) vote 100% against the Obama Bailouts, but didn't have the where-withal to point out that they were against bailouts that are not Republican initiated.
What a crock!
And these people try to represent themselves as "thinking of the people".
I recognize what the Republican plan is for the next four years - be against anything Obama. And to hell with the American people.
I am asking any that care to join me in a boycott of the Republican Party. Shun them into non-relevance=non-existence.
Never again vote for anybody running as a Republican. They have proven that they don't have your best interest at heart. Rather they are in tune with Special Interests. You deserve better.
If enough people join the boycott, the very least thing that will happen is that the remaining parties will begin to give more thought to the good of the people. -
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nostalgia9 months, 1 week ago
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This article is not very complete on what is included in the "unemployment sections" of the bill
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I would recommend you read this article to understand other provisions which have been included
As part of the economic recovery package making its way through Congress, the federal government would boost jobless benefits this year by $25 per week as well as spend billions to encourage states to modernize their unemployment insurance programs.
Give states incentives to make it easier for part-time workers to qualify for unemployment benefits and provide benefits to people leaving work for a “compelling family reason.”
http://www.workforce.com/section/00/article/26/13/...
Many of the states don't give part-time workers unemployment benefits now
They would have to change their current law
They are concerned about what will happen AFTER the Federal money runs out
In order to continue to fund unemployment for part-time workers, there would be a tax increase on businesses after the stimulus money is gone
The "provide benefits to people leaving work for a “compelling family reason.” is simply a way to now pay people who leave work under the Family and Medical Leave Act
The National Employment Law Project estimates that only 19 states would automatically qualify for about $1.5 billion in funding based on policies that meet the requirements of the provision in the stimulus package. The remainder of the states would need to change their current laws to qualify -
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nostalgia9 months, 1 week ago
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This is going to be the next problem with this stimulus bill
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The Welfare Issue is Alive, Alive!
A Times of London story highlights worries about the Thermidorian welfare reform backsliding in the stimulus bill. Sample:
Douglas Besharov, author of a big study on welfare reform, said the stimulus bill passed by Congress and the Senate in separate votes on Friday would "unravel" most of the 1996 reforms that led to a 65% reduction in welfare caseloads and prompted the British and several other governments to consider similar measures.
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Georgia509 months, 1 week ago
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From the poorly researched article:
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First off, someone needs to tell Gov. Jindal that the word permanent does not appear in the text. The question is where are Republicans getting the lie that this is a permanent tax increase? The answer can be found in Section VI of the Wagner-Peyser Act, which says, “No State's allotment under this section for any fiscal year shall be less that 90 percent of its allotment percentage for the fiscal year preceding the fiscal year for which the determination is made.”
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I guess liberals are trained to stop reading or researching once their point is made lest the truth of a matter emerge.
From Wagner-Peyser Act, Section 6:
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(b)(1) Subject to paragraphs (2), (3), and (4) of this subsection, the Secretary shall allot the remainder of the sums appropriated and certified pursuant to section 5 of this Act for each fiscal year among the States as follows:
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Various formulae follow in sections 2-4, but the salient point is "pursuant to Section 5 of this Act" where we find:
Wagner-Peyser Act, Section 5:
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(2) Funds obligated for any program year may be expended by the State during that program year and the two succeeding program years and no amount shall be deobligated on account of a rate of expenditure which is consistent with the program plan.
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Simply put, any funds the states take from Congress becomes their current and ongoing baseline for unemployment insurance. The states, in accepting these funds, incur a new level of obligation for distributions to the unemployed, and they cannot "deobligate" such funds. Thus, they would have to increase the unemployment tax on business once the stimulus money is gone.
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Georgia509 months, 1 week ago
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Actually, no, it's cheaper to reduce taxes on business so that business can hire more people. Guess how many jobs get created when the cost of doing business goes up?
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Unemployment is intended to soften the landing for those who've lost their jobs. It is not and cannot be a fully limitless safety net that makes whole the unemployed.
We may argue and quibble the stimulus package line by line. But under no circumstances does anyone have the power or the prerogative to forces business owners and investors to continue their enterprise in the face of higher taxes.
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CHAM9 months, 1 week ago
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"Just think. The Republicans voted as a solid block in favor of the Bush Stimulus and Bailouts. You remember those don't you? They are the Bailouts that no one knows where the Billions went!"
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I copied what I wrote in the beginning and pasted it here. Bush was the first to call for the bailouts. Bush appointed Paulsen to run the show.
The first bailouts called for Foreign Banks and Foreign Nationals to share in the rip off of the taxpayer.
All you Republicans seem to forget that. And if I'm not mistaken much of the first bailouts have been distributed around in the form of Bonuses for the very people who brought us into this mess. I think they are called Republicans.
To put this vile Party away for good, just never vote for one again. No one can stop you for doing this, and the surviving parties will take note. Long story short, this is the easiest way to begin to bring back representative Government to America.
Continuing to support Republicans is a no win proposition.
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