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    slate9 months ago

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    Ah trickle up poverty will work? Let's see 2% of Americans already pay 50% of the taxes, yeah those are the people we need to go after so their numbers dwindle so they can then claim the rest of us are wealthy and tax us out of existence as the next step to have a country comprised of only serfs.

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      quackpot9 months ago

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      It is sad when things have gotten to the point where just 2% of Americans control so much of the wealth that they are just about the only ones left that can afford to pay taxes.

      The poor have no money with which to pay taxes, and Regan/Bush/Bush have so decimated the middle class that there aren't many left to contribute.

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        simonsez9 months ago

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        Oh, poor poor ...

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          beavith19 months ago

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          its not that only 2% can pay taxes, its the way the system is set up that only the wealthy pay.

          its more than a semantic difference.

          everyone can contribute. few do.

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            Gransater9 months ago

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            Only the wealthy pay????
            I guess that would depend on your definition of wealthy, but generally I'd say most working people pay. The wealthy pay more money, per return, because they earn more.
            Show me a figure, based on real payments to the IRS, not the before deductions numbers, in percentage of income earned, that the wealthy and the median tax payer remits to the IRS. In percent of real income, the numerical diference between wealthy and the rest of taxpayers is not as great as it is made out to be.

            Everyone can contribute, few do........... B U L L

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          rimbaud9 months ago

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          When you give money to poor people, all they do is spend it and they are back where they started (and so are you... money wasted). When you give money to rich people, they invest it and create jobs for poor people. It's not necessary for those poor people to be employed in the USA, though... wherever those investments pay off, the profits come home to the "ownership society" (those smart-enough or rich-enough to invest). In fact, most rich people would rather have Mexican construction workers than lazy ass American union members, who feel entitled to health and retirement benefits from their employers, and they would rather have Indian technical workers and Asian laborers.

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            quackpot9 months ago

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            Seeing as how the "investments" of the rich have resulted in a massive export of jobs and have culminated in the current financial mess, perhaps you should revise your stereotypes.

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              beavith19 months ago

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              rimbaud is correct.

              quackpot? you are just repeating campaign rhetoric.

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                Gransater9 months ago

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                The phrase
                " It's not necessary for those poor people to be employed in the USA....."
                Two questions
                Why should weathy individuals be rewarded for shipping jobs outside of the US?
                Doesn't that phrase in itself validate Quackpots's assertion that jobs are indeed being shipped out of the country? How can that possibly be campaign rhetoric?

                Complaint is that "poor people spend the money", versus "rich/smart people invest money given to them". Gee, could it possibly be that poor people need to buy food, pay bills etc, while rich people allready have the luxury of enough money to pay for daily living cost's. Has that posibility even briefly entered your consciousness?
                Yes, I know there are exeptions, but that is true in all aspects of humanity.

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                nostalgia9 months ago

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                TEll me Quackpot
                Exactly what in the Obama plan is going to create jobs?

                The center piece of job creation in the stimulus bill was "infrastructure"
                Did you hear Obama's remarks to the meeting of governor's when they were in DC?
                Obama said that 400,000 jobs would be created with the infrastructure spending

                400,000 jobs Quackpot. That's a far cry from the 4 million that were originally promised
                Why do you think they changed the rhetoric from "jobs created" to "jobs saved and created"?

                And the tax increases on people making over 250,000. You are aware that 80% of people making over $250,000 are small business owners?
                What do you think raising taxes on small business owners will do?

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                  beavith19 months ago

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                  5 million, Nost. he started at 5 million new jobs originally promised.

                  even so, he's trying to make do in a sinking ship. heck, if he stopped the current hemorrhaging, that would be an accomplishment.

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                    nostalgia9 months ago

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                    Right you are Beavith1

                    I had forgotten that original number
                    LOL it seems to be an ever evolving target that keeps getting smaller

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            Gransater9 months ago

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            The reason 2% of Americans paying 50% of taxes wouldn't by any change be because they earn 65% of all income, wouldn't it?

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              beavith19 months ago

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              no. it wouldn't.

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                Gransater9 months ago

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                Ahh

                Am I guessing correctly that it is because all lefties are jealous of the righties, so we just tax them more because it's the lefties only way of revenge, plus it makes them feel good.

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              frctm59 months ago

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              If 2% can afford to pay 50% and still be the top 2%, some how I think we should not worry about them. I think they're doing just fine. If anything, your argument only reinforces the idea that we should have a more progressive income tax.

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